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12 Aug 2023 13:42:37
Any idea Ed's why Chelsea haven't just matched the Liverpool offer or whatever Brighton are asking for?
{Ed002's Note - They have two other transfers they are also dealing with today and have been in discussions with Brighton.}
1.) 12 Aug 2023 13:47:48
What's to discuss? If they want the player they need to out bid us Ed? Simple stuff isn't it? Something smells incredibly fishy about this.
{Ed002's Note - What do you think is "fishy" about it. There is plenty to discuss.}
2.) 12 Aug 2023 13:52:42
Melissa Reddy saying FFP and P/ S rules are a consideration and that Chelsea had hoped we would walk away and they could negotiate better terms. which is why we haven't. This is a complete farce in my eyes. We have been messed around royally here. So come on Chelsea. you know what you need to do.
{Ed002's Note - FFP and Sustainability rules are a consideration for all clubs.}
3.) 12 Aug 2023 13:59:18
I get that Ed and appreciate your replies but what I don't understand is everyone is saying Chelsea are struggling to offer as they risk breaching FFP etc. They have had long enough to sort this out. Off loading Kepa now I see. The whole thing has been done poorly on both sides but Chelsea are under the spotlight now. When i say fishy, it just doesn't add up what's happened and what is happening now. I appreciate I'm not in your position of knowledge but there are a lot of professionals calling Chelsea out on this. No smoke etc.
{Ed002's Note - Chelsea did not want to pay more that £100M that Brighton wanted for Ceicedo - it was not related to to FFP. There has been interest in Kepa Arrizabalaga from three sides - and there is nothing "fishy" in that.}
4.) 12 Aug 2023 14:15:01
can't see how there is an FFP issue with signing MC for 110m when they are also looking to sign Lavia as well.
5.) 12 Aug 2023 14:15:59
So why haven't they bid more?
{Ed002's Note - I don't get your problem - you seem to have convinced yourself that there is some issue which simply doesn't exist. Chelsea and Brighton need to discuss the offer and a number of other matters - and that is ongoing and no doubt will be concluded shortly.}
6.) 12 Aug 2023 14:59:33
The is some reports stating that Chelsea want the payments spread over 6 or so years while the selling club want an a more up front loaded payment which I assume Liverpool have offered, hence the being of the mindset they have a deal with Liverpool, all waste of everybodys time if he doesn't want to play for us.
Last 24 hours has been ridiculous.
{Ed002's Note - No, there is no such proposal. That will be from those who have misunderstood the amatorization in the accounts - just igore anything about the money.}
7.) 12 Aug 2023 15:09:21
Hi Ed002, heard from SkySports that Chelsea will bid 115m before the game tomorrow. Do you see that Chelsea will finally end this Caicedo saga with this bid?
{Ed002's Note - That will be up to Liverpool.}
8.) 12 Aug 2023 15:14:41
So Ed, Chelsea are trying to sell their keeper to raise funds and you say ‘there’s nothing fishy about that’. Well I for one definitely smell a kepa…. I’ll get my coat.
9.) 12 Aug 2023 15:15:11
I agree Ed002, this is why Chelsea have been offering 7/ 8 year contracts as a common practice since the new owner came on the scene. It allows them to reduce the cost of the player by spreading the payments across the length of the contract.
Nothing wrong with it, just smart business and allowing the finances to be spread thinner in order to keep under any requirements that may be in place by a governing body.
{Ed002's Note - No, you don't understand - just ignore the finances. The payments are not spread over that period. Absolutely hopeless.}
10.) 12 Aug 2023 15:32:06
Talking rubbish yesterday, a hopeless case today, I'm starting to feel the love on this site ?.
11.) 12 Aug 2023 15:36:54
Thanks Ed002. I doubt Liverpool wants to be dragged into another bidding war, I hope not.
12.) 12 Aug 2023 15:49:45
What do you mean by that the transfer depends on Liverpool, Ed? Do you think that Liverpool are also considering raising their bid after that next upcoming offer from Chelsea? With all these reports MC seems keen mostly on Chelsea so how can Liverpool get this deal done even if they raise the offer.
Thank you again on all your reports, that whole saga seems so confusing on both sides.
{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool wish to make a further offer there is nothing stopping them.}
13.) 12 Aug 2023 16:05:17
We should offer the asking price for Lavia and move on.
14.) 12 Aug 2023 16:10:17
Our offer was already way above what MC is worth IMO. Walk away and let Chelsea pay the £115m it's now going to take land him.
15.) 12 Aug 2023 16:10:20
If LFC were to up the bid, I think I understand what Ed002 meant by LFC screwing around now ???. They did it with RL and now MC saga. Player wants Chelsea, just let him go if it’s 115m.
16.) 12 Aug 2023 15:56:20
So you reckon that if Liverpool raise another bid Chelsea may back off? With all the fuss that this transfer has become how is that possible if we are talking about 5-10 million pounds above next Chelsea offer.
{Ed002's Note - No, I did not say that.}
17.) 12 Aug 2023 16:15:36
I can’t understand why we’d want a player who admittedly doesn’t Want to play for Liverpool Football Club?
Why don’t we put in an offer for Marcus Rashford aswel. See if Gary Neville fancies a job on the coaching staff.
Pull out! It shouldn’t even be up for discussion. This summer has been a disaster I’m worried about how we’re running the club personally. We’re a mess.
18.) 12 Aug 2023 16:19:37
How are Liverpool screwing around with MC? They have the only accepted bid from Brighton.
As for RL we obviously didn't want to pay £50m, which is why they haven't made an offer for that amount to Southampton and tried to negotiate a deal we were happy with.
19.) 12 Aug 2023 16:02:27
“Everyone” is saying Chelsea are struggling to increase their bid……
But Ed002 has refuted that.
I know whose information I listen to, Ed002 has a history and his source has stood up to scrutiny over years. He says forget about the finances - I would take that advice.
Chelsea not raising their MC bid = fishy
Liverpool not increasing their RL bid =?
It’s about value isn’t it? Clubs place a value on a transfer and negotiate around that.
Thank you Ed002 for keeping us up to date over the last busy few days, I’m sure you have plenty of demands on your time. ?.
{Ed002's Note - Thanks Ron.}
20.) 12 Aug 2023 16:26:58
Pretty sure that a new cap was I produced meaning transfer payments can only be spread to a maximum of 5 years moving forward, so even if the contract is 8 years, 5 years is the cap. I'm sure it is much more complex than that, but that's the basics, just so people stop going on about Chelsea.
{Ed002's Note - That is for the amortisation, not the payments- just move on from the finances.}
21.) 12 Aug 2023 16:32:31
Ed002, have liverpool put forward an offer to the player regarding wages etc? If so, Could they increase this to try and convince him?
{Ed002's Note - Well if Chelsea were to make a better offer it wouldn’t help. All the player is doing is keeping his word.}
22.) 12 Aug 2023 16:34:47
Ed's in your opinion, are both Lavia and MC going to end up at CFC?
{Ed002's Note - I really don’t know but they need two DM players so it is certainly possible.}
23.) 12 Aug 2023 16:36:47
I am saying if CFC were to bid 115m and we were to continue this bidding war, it will drag on and we will have the Arthur Melo situation.
24.) 12 Aug 2023 16:45:46
Oh my is this still going on?
Please let it go - no smokescreens, nothing ‘fishy’ just negotiations. We are not talking about what chocolate bar is best value for money - it’s excess of £100 mil.
He wants Chelsea (and why not) and they are negotiating, we should move on anti other targets and let MC and Chelsea get it done - I have no problem with this at all.
Maybe we could move on to other targets for position and maybe just look forward to the game tomorrow - could be a belter or very tentative!
25.) 12 Aug 2023 16:49:04
Ok thanks. Would it be possible he’s just holding out for Chelsea, but if they don’t match our bid, it’s not completely out of the question that he may still come to liverpool? But if Chelsea indeed do make an acceptable offer to Brighton, that’s where the lad will end up… Chelsea’s communication to Brighton is presumably, we’ll make a better bid, but just need to tie up a few loose ends with other imminent arrivals before we can sit and discuss the structure of the deal etc. makes perfect sense to be fair.
{Ed002's Note - It is possible.}
26.) 12 Aug 2023 17:54:27
I may be wrong here because I’m not on twatter where all the truth seems to be but I have not ever heard that Caicedo said he ‘doesn’t want to play for Liverpool’.
I’ve only heard that he prefers Chelsea where he’s thought he was going for the last 3 months or so. So being that Liverpool are in London this weekend (where I believe he is staying at present whilst refusing to train with Brighton) is there not a possibility that Liverpool will get a chance to sell him the project and he might decide to come to Liverpool after all?
Personally I think he’s worth half of what we offered and won’t be the transformative player people seem to think he will be but if he joins I’ll support the lad just like I support everyone else in a red shirt.
27.) 12 Aug 2023 19:06:34
I hope MC comes to Liverpool.
28.) 12 Aug 2023 20:26:15
Right I’ll try and explain amortisation as this is doing my head in. Amortisation is spreading the cost of a player over the life on their contract. Nothing to do with how it’s paid. Over however long of a contract they sign. How they pay for that player is irrelevant. That’s why chelsea were offering 7/ 8 year contracts to begin with as it was spreading the cost into their accounts. It now seems that FIFA / fa whoever it is that decides these things have now got wise to that and capped that ‘spreading’ period to 5 years regardless of how long they sign for .
29.) 13 Aug 2023 01:11:11
Would have thought that the length of the player’s contract is irrelevant to how the transfer payments are made. That one seemed simple.
{Ed001's Note - they are. People are getting mixed up. The fee was just amortised in the accounts over the length of contract, nothing to do with when it is actually paid.}
30.) 13 Aug 2023 16:15:09
The years on the deal likely are being added to reduce the leverage the player may have with outgoing transfers down the road, and from I can tell, that's the extent of it. Still important, but not beyond that.
Amortization and cash are two separate concepts. Amortization is now capped at 5 years by UEFA, so an 8 year deal is no longer used as a maneuver to circumvent the essence of FFP.
The payment schedule is whatever the buying and selling club agree to, and has no impact on FFP. Clubs have to always consider their cash flow, as you obviously need cash to run a company, so this is important. It's going to be appealing and a selling point to a buyer to get more cash up front, and likewise, a selling club needs to be careful not to overextend themselves but could also use this as an advantage if they're currently in a good cash position. Most PL clubs are not.
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30 May 2025 17:02:56
After 4 days without sleep I have finally worked out who the mystery world class striker is that Akira was rendering to.
He is older than players we usually sign, he is world class and he is English, yes you know who I'm talking about!
I can't wait to see Jamie Vardy.
1.) 30 May 2025 17:28:15
SzSz8 you clown! ???.
2.) 30 May 2025 17:49:23
I've been called a lot worse Ugbes ?
Also I pressed send before finishing so glad it made some sense.
3.) 30 May 2025 18:23:43
Vardy should sign for one of the Red Bull teams.
Match made In heaven.
4.) 30 May 2025 18:52:56
So there's Red Bull Salzburg and Red Bull Leipzig.
Is there a Vodka Red Bull for Jamie?
26 May 2025 19:22:32
What have I just seen, tears of celebration yesterday turn to tears of despair today. Pray to god nobody is seriously hurt or worse. YNWA97?.
1.) 26 May 2025 19:34:32
Unfortunately there is fatalities apparently. What a mad world ?.
2.) 26 May 2025 19:39:12
It don’t look good unfortunately.
3.) 26 May 2025 19:49:28
Awful scene captured on camera. Hope all those involved are ok.
11 May 2025 20:45:10
Lots of varied emotions over Trent leaving, so I have a question for the group.
Should we let Trent -
A) leave for Madrid before the Club World Cup for free as a gift to him for his 20 years service to the LFC?
B) leave for Madrid before the Club World Cup as long as they pay the money LFC ask for?
C) stay at LFC until his contract runs out?
Your reasoning for your answer would be interesting.
1.) 11 May 2025 21:15:06
If Madrid pay up, let him go. He's off regardless so take the cash imo. What is the benefit of us keeping him for a few extra days?
2.) 11 May 2025 21:15:20
B, it's business and it's clear now it would be in the best interests for everyone if this happens.
3.) 11 May 2025 21:00:15
B. It’s business after all, that’s how all those involved always talk about it, why would you let him go as a gift? Not for me, if they pay us a fee I’d snap their hand off. Alone no pint cutting your nose off to spite your face if there’s a chance of recouping something at all.
4.) 11 May 2025 21:06:25
Send him to madrid but make him see out his contract and stay away from the people that love the city.
5.) 11 May 2025 21:10:29
There is obviously only one answer B.
6.) 11 May 2025 21:10:28
D) . Not bothered because we’re Champions.
7.) 11 May 2025 21:24:21
B. But Madrid can't take liberties with the fee. They'll be making millions from the tournament and the speculated 800k is a mockery.
8.) 11 May 2025 21:25:36
We'll be paying his salary from end of season till 30 June while he's on holiday which is probably close to £1m, I'd take whatever RM offer (rumour is it's 1m) plus getting him off the wage bill, maybe the guts of 2m in the clubs pocket.
9.) 11 May 2025 21:26:15
Pay up 2% it’s pittance but we have no choice.
10.) 11 May 2025 21:40:05
let him go and potentially help them win $100m prize?
yeah, nah.
11.) 11 May 2025 21:42:14
B) for me also, draws a line under it then for good one way or the other!
Reason= We never really celebrated our first ever winning of the Premier League because of Covid Lockdown, drawing a line under it for good, will allow us all to truly celebrate Arne's magnificent first title win, rather than be overshadowed by the events of the past week continually, and all move on to hopefully more successful trophy winning seasons, our future success is more important than our past history now.
12.) 11 May 2025 21:43:16
Make him stay til contract up. Why would you want to help RM.
13.) 11 May 2025 21:52:12
Put him on a easyjet flight pronto.
14.) 12 May 2025 02:15:34
B) the price is £50 million
Or he stays.
15.) 12 May 2025 05:56:23
B. Take what you can and get him gone.
05 May 2025 10:37:15
Good luck Trent, thank you for everything you have done for our great club, I wish you every happiness with your choices in football and in life. I am positive you will always get a great reception at Anfield when you return, however not as a legend but a great player who used to wear the shirt.
1.) 05 May 2025 11:05:48
He can’t be a legend now. But could have been an all time great if he had signed for his home town club.
2.) 05 May 2025 11:29:02
Why can't he be a legend, Mark? Honest question.
3.) 05 May 2025 13:50:09
Oli take the posters down off your wall. getting a bit embarrassing now.
4.) 05 May 2025 14:25:02
Stromsgodset, why is it embarrassing to you? Cos I disagree with your opinion? Maybe it is you who have issues dealing with your opinion being challenged. Now, that's embarrassing.
17 Mar 2025 07:17:33
Disappointing week but that's football, if we won every game it would be boring. Please remember we are just walking through a storm towards a golden sky, which is the Prem title.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but those saying we won't win the league must live extremely cautious lives.
1.) 17 Mar 2025 08:03:18
I think szsz8 when u are a club the size of lfc every defeat is a disaster and that's a good thing as it keeps standards high. Can get over the top at times but that's the way it is. Reality is if we as fans want to be competing for quads we need to be a lot more ambitious in transfer market and most fans quite happy with the way we work as it is so they can't have it everyway.
As regards league we in great position and I think we will win it, I do think slot needs to throw in endo+ cheisa against everton, we need a bit of freshness and bite that they should be able to provide. if arsenal hadve been able to put more pressure on us recently I'm not so sure we would've been fit to handle it tbh. In saying all that this team has done brilliant so far, above my expectations and most other fans, just need to back them now for final push, we 3 league games in a week when we come back and if we get 7pts we flying.
2.) 17 Mar 2025 08:18:18
imagine the silver lining of a failed cup campaign is a premier league title lol.
3.) 17 Mar 2025 09:03:20
Faith, I thought the same thing too in 18/ 19. Our silver lining for not winning the title (lost on the last day by a point) was to win the CL. Now our silver lining more than likely would be to win the title after having a bad week of CL elimination and losing the EFL final. All I can say is, "Imaging being us".
Now as @Digger said, Slot needs to learn from his mistakes cos I think he took this whole "tried and trusted" thing regarding selection way too far. Elliott, Chiesa and Endo should have been playing a lot more than they have been.
4.) 17 Mar 2025 09:32:28
Premier League was everything this season so it’s an outstanding season.
5.) 17 Mar 2025 10:36:08
Couldn't agree more, Mark. The rivals are hurting bad and you can tell cos they are now trying to say that "just" winning the tile is an "underwhelming" season for LFC, a team NONE of them had in a title race let alone winning it. As they say, "A hit dog will holler" and the rivals are hollering loud and hard.
16 Jul 2025 07:52:37
Mr Bean, it would also be pretty dumb if Newcastle said 'yeah we really want sell Isak and he wants to leave'. It's all about the dance and achieving the best deal possible for both sides. in my opinion.
16 Jul 2025 07:50:11
Mr Bean it would also be pretty dumb if New.
10 Jul 2025 16:46:26
Congrats Carra.
Ed025 so very true mate.
{Ed025's Note - i graduated from the school of life with honours SzSz8.. :)
18 Jun 2025 05:32:46
I'm sure Slots medical team will have a full understanding of every injury and will be 99.9% sure they can manage it, otherwise the club won't spend that type of money on him.
16 Jun 2025 14:37:05
Absolute gold, please keep churning out the episodes.
16 Jul 2025 17:25:37
Navy Keith are you offended for Ed001? Take a deep breath mate he's got a sense of humour, all is good!
{Ed001's Note - they are all wrong anyway, I use Mr Sheen not shampoo.}
18 Jun 2025 18:29:28
I wouldn't feel bad Akira, I'm sure shughes has thick enough skin to take it. There is an old saying if you can't take it, don't give it.
The world we live in allows people to say and do what they want without consequence, hence all the wars.
Today's news is tomorrow fish 'n chips paper and all that.
Oh, thank you once again for your updates and taking the time to write them ?.
10 Jun 2025 18:14:26
What has made it crystal clear Lennon11?
09 Jun 2025 13:33:42
In Senegal if someone has a same sex relationship with a person under 21 they are looking at 5 years behind bars.
So for those doing cultural age justification, can you please explain how a straight girl of 16 is wiser to her life choices than a gay 16 year old girl or boy?
09 Jun 2025 12:26:20
I'm with you MK, the term racist is used so freely now a days it discredits those who are actually victims of racism.
It is also used to defend people who.