Liverpool banter 6

16 Aug 2026 09:33:16
Well there's one thing about Bezos being onboard, at least any new players might get delivered next day.
I'll get mi coat lol.

{Ed025's Note - good stuff Rum..

16 Aug 2026 10:14:18
Yep - chucked in the wheelie bins at the back of the stand!

16 Aug 2026 10:20:48
I've heard this joke a few times now over the days, and he's still not delivered a player.

We might be better selling the other 70% to Postman Pat.

16 Aug 2026 10:34:20
Has anyone checked with the neighbours?


They may all be wondering around Goodison Park?
Looking for the.... discuss.

16 Aug 2026 10:47:01
As long as we end up in Prime position I'll be happy.

16 Aug 2026 10:09:42
What do you mean next day? , I order in the morning it's here by tea time, mind you I have to spend 20 squid to get it, but you get my point, we should all be more Jeff Bezos

16 Aug 2026 12:01:44
Potentially got delivered by Evri instead. So somebody better check to see if Barcola is in New Brighton having been lobbed over the Mersey.

16 Aug 2026 09:08:10
See a lot of talk about replacing Alisson, he’s 32, not even old in goalkeeper years. Van Der Sar was still one of the best in the world until he got bored and packed in at 40. PSG signed Buffon when he was 40. Neuer is 40 now and has only recently started declining.

I say we give Ali a new deal on the condition he has barbecues slightly less often mid-season. We’ll regret letting him go when he’s still one of the best in the world in 5 years time.

16 Aug 2026 09:41:23
Agreed. There is no-one standing out to replace him, and he's still an incredible asset. The only issue will be if he wants to finish his career in Brazil, which, by the sounds of it, he does.

16 Aug 2026 09:43:33
To be fair, Van der Sar played in an era where keepers stood on their line and rarely had to kick the ball. He was never injured.

Neuer has struggled massively with injury in recent years. In the last 4 years he has missed 20, 11, 12 and 12 league games. His decline started years ago, mate. Alisson is also missing a lot of games too. They might both still be world class keepers when they're fit, but the problem is who you have to cover them for the 25-50% of the season they miss.



Alisson is elite. Best keeper we've had in 50 years at least, but do you really want Mamardashvili playing 10-20 league games a season? That's what you're accepting if you stick with Alisson into his mid-30s. It's not like he gets unlucky with impact injuries, these are constant niggling muscle injuries.

Personally, I'd keep Alisson and see if we can get a solid 2nd keeper like we had with Kelleher. But I can see why many people think it's time to move on.

16 Aug 2026 10:10:51
Can't blame Alisson for his understudy being crap.

16 Aug 2026 10:44:14
All depends on what Ali wants to do; he's missed serious gametime in recent years due to injury. When you're plagued like that, you get fed up, and there comes a point when it's just not worth it anymore.

Would love to see him sign a new contract, but I'd be lying through my teeth if I said I was confident he would. He has always said he'd like to finish his career in Brazil.

16 Aug 2026 10:57:24
He's been a great for us, no doubt. A world class player. Haven't a clue who could replace him when he goes back to Brazil.

16 Aug 2026 11:20:03
He can still finish his career in Brazil after signing another 3-4 year contract with us.
He's at the point now where he is one of the leaders of the team and that is just as valuable as his keeping ability.

16 Aug 2026 11:33:20
I hope he stays. His injury record sucks and he can't save penalties. But apart from that he's still the best around, he's one of Liverpool's out and out true world class players.

16 Aug 2026 11:44:48
What a shame Jaros had to have knee surgery and won't be available for the rest of 2026. I rate him highly, and he could (eventually) be Alisson's understudy answer.

16 Aug 2026 11:51:11
@LiverpoolFC8, His penalty shootout record is bad. But his in game penalty record is pretty good.

I love Ali, but I don't think he performed to his elite standards last season. First time I felt in a while that we don't have the best keeper in the world.

He might yet bounce back this season and I will love for it to happen, but I think injuries have started to take a toll on him.

16 Aug 2026 12:07:39
I would love to have Alisson for another few years, but we have to remember what he wants.

He may want to go back to Brazil, be with his family, especially given how hard he was hit by losing his dad.

I would only want him to leave us to join a Brazilian club, otherwise we should move heaven and earth to keep him at Liverpool.

16 Aug 2026 13:43:37
What are our young lads like?
I'd definitely renew Becker, I think Marmadashvilli is mediocre.

16 Aug 2026 15:04:12
Great things expected of Jaros, but especially Pecsi (based on the sporadic reports on here in prior seasons).

If Pecsi does well in his loan, he could even leapfrog Jaros?

For me, definitely renew Alisson, or if he really wants to leave, then go all out for Diogo Costa.

16 Aug 2026 07:16:58
A lot of online sources saying we are in discussions for Wharton. Ed's thoughts?

{Ed001's Note - I don't see how he fits our need. We need bite and mobility in midfield, he has neither.}

16 Aug 2026 09:55:53
Yeah, seems a strange one to me! We definitely need additions in midfield, as it's currently weak in my opinion.

16 Aug 2026 10:03:51
I'm a big fan of Wharton. While he does lack pace, he has great anticipation and positioning, and seems to be in the right place at the right time to get the ball. I think him picking the ball up off the defence and spraying balls out to the pacey wingers that Iraola likes, or to Wirtz or Isak, could be massive. Iraola wants to turn defence into attack quickly, and before the oppo have time to get back into a low block.

If Iraola can improve Scott's work rate and defensive numbers, I don't see why he couldn't do the same for Wharton. If Szobo could be trained to be positionally disciplined and use his pace and stamina to cover Wharton, I think that could be an elite midfield pairing.

16 Aug 2026 09:45:31
Ed, any chance you could drop Bezos and co and email and ask for Sadiki or a similiar type of player, seems he makes a huge difference to our nidfield.

{Ed001's Note - I will fire that off now, I am sure he will get right on it.}

16 Aug 2026 10:52:46
Just tell him you'll cancel your Prime subscription if he doesn't. 🤣🤣

{Ed001's Note - I get mine free!

16 Aug 2026 10:35:24
Jesus, I'm agreeing with ed001 now, strange times these

16 Aug 2026 10:55:12
Tend to agree with ed1 on Wharton, v good player with right players around him but not what we need at minute.
Other than sadiki ed1 do u know of any of that type of player about r available? I wouldn't have great knowledge of European leagues and what available there but of what I do know there v little of them type of players about.

Guimaries away too Arsenal (bit too old imo anyway) rodri won't be going to us for sure.
The defensive type midfielders now all seem to be passers and not really any steel r very little aggression to them

{Ed001's Note - maybe Camara?

16 Aug 2026 11:34:31
Wharton and Camara are both needed for me... Jones is going, Mac staying, but he's bobbins.

16 Aug 2026 00:08:21
Hi Eds,

Just a question as I wouldn't have a clue

But with Bezos and Amazon, will it be heavily scrutinised with our games and other marketing opportunities and Amazon?

{Ed001's Note - sorry I don't understand the question mate.}

16 Aug 2026 02:51:04
Ed001
So far the club has recouped just £750, 000 via sales on Luca Stephenson.
It looks like Jones is agreed for £30m to Inter too but I think that will be Mon/Tue but that's it.
Gakpo is a maybe to Spurs but only at the right price so in terms of money coming in it's really quite poor this summer compared to other windows.


Do you see Macca staying or going to find a different type of midfielder in this window?

{Ed001's Note - sadly looks like we are stuck with Macca, I think other teams must have watched him play.}

16 Aug 2026 09:50:37
I suspect that Macca will leave for a heavily reduced fee next year, no way he starts in the midfield for AI unless he applies himself better or improves massively. Just don't see how he fits into the system or tactics, that said he was OK in his first season with us under Klopp if memory serves me correctly.

Wirtz in the 10, Grav as the 6, Slob as the 8 he won't start many, but will definitely be part of the rotation group behind those three. We are still incredibly light in the middle. What Hjumland of Kaishu Sano Ed? Hjumland would certainly give us the bite and physical presence we are looking for and need.

16 Aug 2026 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Last Bus to Woodstock has posted a new article entitled, Wolves Left With Big Questions After Blackburn

15 Aug 2026 21:53:05
Godts signs for PSG. I still reckon Barcola gets announced on Monday.

15 Aug 2026 22:19:29
Well if he doesn't he's going to reach "Simao status" soon.

15 Aug 2026 23:09:58
There's a few that are taking a while, Rodri to Barca, Enzo to City, Bouaddi to City. They've all been on the cards since we've been linked with Barcola. Why don't Barca and City just get the deals done?

The bigger transfers take time.

16 Aug 2026 00:18:28
Very true, Rio.

16 Aug 2026 07:53:59
Goatse signing for PSG opens up a whole new avenue of mind-boggling proportions.

16 Aug 2026 11:46:33
Does that mean we sign sheepse next.

15 Aug 2026 20:35:34
I am not saying there will be a significant change in transfers instantly but even If there was LFC are not going to brief the media. They are cashed up in an already inflated transfer market!

I would happy not having to gamble injury prone players ie.

Gomez & Fede!

LFC had a £450m outlay last Summer so if the necessary players are available they will spend going forward!

15 Aug 2026 21:18:45
It is because Hughes wasted £450m last summer that we are shopping at Aldi this summer. Why is simple mathematics such a challenge?

15 Aug 2026 21:21:44
We generally don't do our transfers through the media. That's the way it always should be.

15 Aug 2026 21:28:33
The net spend last summer was around £220m. In effect, when you include the money for sales, we spent about half the number people normally cite.

15 Aug 2026 22:04:05
Exactly, Wdw, Arsenal actually spent more than us, but maths is not a strong point for some people.

15 Aug 2026 22:11:52
The transfer market is in a state, we're seeing a lot of rubbish move around for inflated fees. Yes, we have a few players in the squad who aren't good enough, but if it's going to cost over £80 million to replace them with someone marginally better, then what is the point?

Arsenal, City, United and Villa are in the Champions League as well, and all have positions they could do with upgrading in an ideal world.

They're in the same boat. It's not worth panicking over.

15 Aug 2026 22:17:35
Dress it up anyway you want, we spent 450million. The fact we recouped money in sales from previous seasons' outlay is only relevant to bookkeeping. 450 million? Feels like we spent 110. Hughes shouldn't be anywhere near transfers.

15 Aug 2026 22:22:52
Mutton is accusing posters of what he can't do. Classic.

15 Aug 2026 22:24:20
Pretty sure we did the Isak transfer "through the media" and the "Caicedo" transfer that failed.

15 Aug 2026 22:47:59
John doesn't think keeping the likes of Diaz, Nunez, Kelleher, Morton and Quansah would have made us better last season.

15 Aug 2026 23:20:45
@5th Element, obviously you don't know my thoughts. I would have loved to have kept Nunez. I'd have him back now.

16 Aug 2026 00:03:18
But that's the point, John, we didn't just go out and spend £450m and what's this about sales from previous seasons? It was sales in the same window!

Plus we lost Trent for nothing, who would've been worth at least £60m if we'd sold him under contract, so the point is, if you're going to criticise based on money spent, we lost more than £300m worth of talent from the squad and replaced it with £450m worth of talent.

That's a net increase in talent of circa £150m.

Arsenal sold no one, and spent £270m, so they increased their talent by £270m.



It's not linear, and so none of this actually makes sense, but people keep banging on about us spending £450m, so based on that, this is the truth. If spending £450m is supposed to improve the team by that much, then you need to take into account the value of the players who left the team.

Otherwise you could sell the entire squad for £1billion and then sign a new squad for £500m and then question why we haven't improved. We did spend £500m after all.

You see how ridiculous that sounds?

16 Aug 2026 00:17:11
Really annoys me, people going on about costs when FSG have shown over the years they won't spend what we cannot afford. I am more interested in if the player fits what we need. Let the money men with more knowledge at the club worry about the finances.

16 Aug 2026 00:41:07
Money, money, money.
Must be funny.

16 Aug 2026 01:49:09
Folks, I never typed that LFC spent £450m last Summer.

I said that was outlay, meaning before anyone was sold! People would argue black was white on here LOL!

Edwards has left, Hughes is going in a matter of weeks, and FSG have an exit strategy now!

The 450m figure is a narrative put out by the same media who claim LFC's spending will remain similar! In the world of elite level football, revenues hypothetically spending £200m net, approximately last Summer, is in the same ballpark as spending 300m net under this wealthier consortium, yes or no?

LFC's shirt and sleeve sponsors expire next Summer, so if Liverpool are clever they will exploit loopholes meaning they will earn much more than they do on shirt sponsorship for starters! The more LFC earn in revenue, the more they can spend, hence £300m net spend being achievable moving forward?

16 Aug 2026 07:58:14
I'm fairly certain that the outlay was predicated on the assumption that there would be monies coming in from sales. I think it was a simple cause and effect thing, and the only reason we were able to pay for Isak at the end of the window was because we had the money from outbound transfers.

However, if your opinion is that purchases and sales had nothing to do with each other, that's ok.

16 Aug 2026 08:08:09
We bought players for c450m having sold some for c300m. We could only afford the cost of the new players because we received income from the sales. One set of deals wouldn't have happened without the other.

The cost of the buys, the outlay of the 450m cash, was staggered over a period of time as agreed with the selling clubs, and will depend on the payment terms and if there's add ons in the figure etc. Same for the sales receipts.

However, all of that washes through, the net cash cost to the club of the business we committed to last summer was c£100m.



In the top 6, we're never the top net transfer spender when things are looked at over a period of time, that's how FSG run the investment, and the likes of Hughes work within that set of guidelines. We do well considering, offer high wages and bonuses for success, and run a fairly tight first 15 squad, with the rest padded out with youth and the likes of Endo on lower wages who are named but hardly ever play.

That's the model, which I reckon will continue even when the new investors bed in.

16 Aug 2026 08:10:03
Net spend is for the accountants. Liverpool spent £450 million on new players last season to improve the team. That has got absolutely zero to do with net spend.

16 Aug 2026 08:38:13
Fifth Element (crap movie). They wouldn't have made us better last season. The only individual who would have made us better last season was Klopp. We could have had prime MSN and Slot would have still played crap football.

16 Aug 2026 09:19:25
You've obviously no idea about cash flow Irish! That's the lifeblood of any business. Profits and losses, amortisation of transfer costs etc are where the accountants come in.

16 Aug 2026 09:59:48
Like I said, Overkill, that's for the accountants. Liverpool still spent £450 million on new players to improve on what they had. Isak for Nunez, Kerkez for Robbo, Leoni for Quansah etc etc. Wirtz!
That's the important bit, and if it was successful or not? I couldn't care less about who the club sold to "balance the books".

16 Aug 2026 10:33:18
I'm with Irish, people obsessed with balancing the books, it doesn't change the matter if we spent what we earned /recouped, we spent 450 million.

16 Aug 2026 11:05:55
I don't see many fans being interested in us balancing the books, that's for the guys running the club. The simple fact being pointed out was that we wouldn't make all of the buys we do unless we were also raising money from sales.



The general point, perhaps, is that the new buys, and also contract renewals, last summer were astronomically expensive, and we haven't seen a value return on it yet. Isak, Wirtz, Frimpong and Kerkez need to be much better this season.

15 Aug 2026 19:55:54
Any news on Baj anyone?

15 Aug 2026 21:29:09
Still not ready to play.

16 Aug 2026 10:01:19
Yeah, he's still at the club. Fans still waiting on him like the second coming, ready to dominate that DM roll he filled for Liverpool for about 20 minutes.