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22 Jan 2024 07:53:25
I'm surprised I can't see this mentioned anywhere but did anyone else view Mac Allister as the stand out player in the Bournemouth game? Seems his game yesterday was taken a little for granted in punditry and media circles! I thought it was outstanding myself.
1.) 22 Jan 2024 09:01:25
I agree metro I thought Mac was quality yesterday.
When Endo came into the team in Dec it was almost forgotten about that Mac had played the previous games beforehand at Dm and we’d only lost one which was the Spurs game.
Mac and Endo both have their strengths and weakness’s like every other player worldwide but I’m so happy we have both in our squad doing well.
2.) 22 Jan 2024 09:29:18
Mac Allister was my man of the match. That is backed up by his stats too - he won back possession on 15 occasion and competed in 19 duels and made 7 successful tackles - all game high stats (and I think the tackles stat is the highest by any Liverpool player in any game this season) .
I also thought Konate was immense.
3.) 22 Jan 2024 09:32:16
MoTM for me. Even in the first have he was decent when others were struggling.
4.) 22 Jan 2024 09:40:33
Metro, I did. He was phenomenal in near every way possible hence, why I posted that I was having difficulty giving the a MOTM award cos he was the one I really wanted to give it too BUT Darwin, Jota and Gomez are also great candidates, IMO. You know it's a good day at the office if you have struggles like this, right?
5.) 22 Jan 2024 13:59:39
His best performance for us till date? Definitely
But he can play even better
But I think this match showed he can actually be strong on the ball in the defensive end and be switched on, just not sure if it’s also Bournemouth not being particularly good too that made him look even better. I remember at one point he won the ball, rode 2 challenges and passed it well. In that moment I was like ‘whao, that’s a proper 6’.
6.) 22 Jan 2024 14:04:23
Wait till the match review mate! Btw the Southampton one hasn't been put in a long time too???.
{Ed001's Note - I won't have time to do one for the next couple of weeks as my parents are visiting. Sorry.}
7.) 22 Jan 2024 14:24:41
@ed 001, really you guys have parents, I thought all editors were molded by the gods and put among us mere mortals for insight in football matters. That’s enough brown nosing from me today. Joking aside enjoy the time with your parents, as a Belgian living in Brasil I know how precious it is to have loved ones over from your homeland.
{Ed001's Note - maybe that is how the other editors arrived here, but I was put among them to prove that even an editor is merely human. Thanks mate, it is very good to see them, though not seeing them for so long makes it really hit home how old they have gotten! How did you end up in Brazil? Are you like one of those Scots that went abroad for a World Cup and just never left after it finished?}
8.) 22 Jan 2024 15:48:32
No mate, I’m not interested in international football. I met my wife, who’s Brazilian, in Belgium. We decided to visit her family for a couple of months and I just never returned. We bought a small farm in the mountains and that’s the story really. But you’re absolutely right, it’s hard seeing your parents and in my case also my grandfather age when you don’t get to see them for prolonged periods of time.
{Ed001's Note - how long have you been there?}
9.) 22 Jan 2024 17:15:46
5 years now, how long have you been away from Liverpool?
{Ed001's Note - just 2 years now, I went back for a few months before moving here.}
10.) 23 Jan 2024 01:27:48
Hope you enjoy your time with your parents Ed mate.
{Ed001's Note - thanks Salah it is really nice to see them.}
11.) 23 Jan 2024 10:22:35
Fantastic Ed, moments to be cherished mate.
21 Jan 2024 10:36:45
I saw a post referring to Keita above being a “main example” of a “ready made superstar” and, I will be honest, I’ve not laughed as much since caceido gave away a penalty on his debut for Chelsea (a golden bullet dodged)!
Then I realised this is the Banter page!
Serious BANTS the best for a good while ???.
1.) 21 Jan 2024 11:59:49
To be fair, a ready made superstar was what he was supposed to be.
I’d have him down as Klopps worst ever signing for us though.
2.) 21 Jan 2024 12:57:00
"I saw a post referring to Keita above being a “main example” of a “ready made superstar”.
Im not sure that ever happened. I do remember me and many others salivating at the prospect of having him in our team at the time due to his immense ability shown the season before he joined cos I watched him for a full season before he joined us and he was THAT guy. Ready made superstar? Not sure, that was the case.
As for Caicedo, he is a very good player (we wanted the guy for a reason, right? ) who is struggling mightily in a crap team with no system, not proper tactical structure and purpose. Same for Hojlund. Sad for Caicedo BUT he got the move he wanted and we got Endo so all parties are satisfied and good luck to him and Hojlund.
3.) 21 Jan 2024 13:34:36
If anyone had the profile of a ready made superstar it was Keita.
To say he didn't hit the heights myself and others anticipated would be a crushing understatement.
Injuries played their part in the curtailment of his expected explosion on the Premier League, we may never know for sure how much of the rumoured laxness was actually true.
4.) 21 Jan 2024 17:34:19
That was me that said that Metro and it’s absolutely true. At the time we signed him he was one of the most sought after players in Europe.
We all know what happened but that doesn’t detract from the facts. He was supposed to be a world star.
5.) 21 Jan 2024 22:29:24
Nah, BP I disagree. i never thought Naby was a world star cos had he been, we would not have been able to afford him even tho, we paid a lot for him mainly due to Klopp tapping him up.
µTo me, he was a player who was on the up and was ready to make that big jump to the next level cos those were the types of players we targeted like Mo, Sadio, VVD, AB1, Fab etc. Those players were not world stars either, man.
6.) 21 Jan 2024 19:23:25
Yes, yes it's very true and it happened. He was going to be our "Kante". I can't quote posts exactly, but he was going to improve our midfield exponentially. "World class"? I don't know. But to be rated second after Kante (who was the best at the time) should have meant something. Clearly Klopp thought so too since the club bought him one year in advance, which is something you never see. If it weren't for the injuries he would deservedly have been out on loans the whole 5 years!
08 Jan 2024 07:51:10
Gomez really has done well since coming back in but I have always liked him and thought he deserved a run. I have always thought Saka to be one of the most overrated players in the prem and Gomez did a lot to help maintain my view ?.
Bradley came in on right and superb too. Martinelli can be a tricky player but his positioning, pace, concentration, energy looked accomplished and solid throughout.
Arsenal most definitely need a striker!
1.) 08 Jan 2024 09:33:39
Hasn't Arteta spent enough money?
2.) 08 Jan 2024 09:42:40
Metro, I agree with you on Gomez. He has always been a very good player BUT the injuries have taken away part of his physicality and esp. a yard and a half of pace cos I remember him being able to stay with Leroy Sane and Adam Traore step for step in a foot race back in the day. That said, he is a very solid defender and Im so happy he is doing so well and his versatility has been a huge place.
As for Saka, I love him to bits BUT I don't think he is overrated. I think he is super tired and is struggling physically cos the yard of burst he had is gone. Why? IMO, Arteta has mismanaged him (an Martinelli) as they play WAY too much footie as young players. Arteta has NO cover for either so they have to play every game and that is ruining them, IMO.
As for Arteta and a striker, they had a striker in Folaring Balogin scoring for fun last season at Reims in the French League. It was Arteta who binned him off in fav. of two strikers in Jesus and Nketiah who are NOT in Balogun's league goalscoring-wise. That's on him and no one else, IMO.
3.) 08 Jan 2024 11:30:05
How did Ben white not get a yellow for throwing jones to the ground last night!?
4.) 08 Jan 2024 12:13:20
Longthing76, I have NO idea whatsoever.
5.) 08 Jan 2024 12:26:47
It’s great to see Gomez having a very good season so far.
6.) 08 Jan 2024 12:51:33
Gomez is playing really well at left back.
Questions need to be asked of Arteta, awful manager with lack of tactical ability to be able to change a game.
7.) 08 Jan 2024 16:29:03
Brummyred, you could level near everything bad happening on the pitch at Arsenal at Arteta. Incompetent and supremely arrogant without the cache to boot, a Brendan Rodgers regen in my book.
8.) 08 Jan 2024 20:40:23
An awful manager who has managed to get Arsenal thereabouts in the challenge for the Premiership in the last few seasons.
04 Jan 2024 09:25:05
When you are caught at pace the slightest touch can take you off balance. I don't believe Jota would waste the chance of scoring the goal himself. I can see why people think it is not a pen but doesn't the offending GKs comments put an end to the speculation?!
1.) 04 Jan 2024 13:26:29
Love jota but he definitely went down far too easy. funny thing is I'd rather have him than any other forward in our team with a 1 on 1 with the keeper, surprised he went down because would have scored.
2.) 04 Jan 2024 13:30:03
No it won't MetroRed because unfortunately we live in a society that no longer accepts facts.
Some people have their own agenda so will spew bull manure even if the truth is glaringly obvious.
3.) 04 Jan 2024 14:53:51
It's a very valid point . The rules say that a GK fouling an opposing player, with the ball, in the penalty box is a penalty. And the present rules are such that if you even blow air at a striker and he falls over, then it is a foul. The goalkeeper has admitted that he fouled Jota. Therefore, it was a penalty. Now pondering over what Jota could have done if he had remained upright is all fine and good (I don't mind debate one little bit) but at the end of the day it was always going to be a penalty at a minimum.
4.) 04 Jan 2024 18:11:00
Well there's a lot being made that Jota took a step before going down. I'd argue (on facts! ) that many a player has taken AT LEAST one step sometimes up to THREE before going down. So this is FAR from being a precedent but the way it's being talked about in the media you'd think Jota robbed the keeper's wallet as he went down. Nothing to see here, it happens EVERY WEEK and nothing will change.
{Ed025's Note - the only thing he robbed RF is himself...of dignity mate, it was embarrassing..
5.) 04 Jan 2024 20:19:15
It was a penalty by the letter of the law. there is nowhere in the law that covers all the other stuff nor is there a threshold as to when or after how many paces or steps is allowed until you drop to the ground after being contacted. That is at the ref's discretion and the ref awarded the penalty. Im over it, personally.
6.) 05 Jan 2024 04:50:36
Ed if you read my other posts you'll see I'm not in agreement w what Jota did. Just saying the pundits pick on this incident to the nth degree and i don't understand that when it's happening every week probably more than one game. The Villa pen against burnley was far worse than what Jota did as there was NO contact yet no question it was a pen. Apparently. And that was for 3 points. Ours wasn't. Burnley in that instance were robbed of a deserved point. Always appreciate your opinion! ?.
{Ed025's Note - i think we all know its not just about Jota RF, its about the direction the game is going which is very worrying mate, poor officiating, VAR, simulation and alligations of corruption are talked about more than the actual football these days, a lot of us are questioning our appetite for the game now and a lot of it is down to the win at all cost culture which exists in the game, it seems that all is fair in love and football these days and cheating in any of its guises tolerated and just seen as part of the game...and thats sad..
7.) 05 Jan 2024 18:26:40
Yep is it by design tho or by chance? Get muppets like Wenger talking about getting rid of time wasting and alas the changes they've made add loads of time at the end. If we got rid of play acting and put a limit on VAR (keep playing while they are looking maybe) then we wouldn't be adding all this time on.
I commended Kavanagh last night for booking Eze and also for continuing play when Clyne went down like a pack of cards in a hurricane. Refs too often stop the game when they should play on. We all know the rest.
And now for some deep breaths.
25 Sep 2023 08:27:09
Spurs up next and so another decent test.
I've been impressed with them this season so far as they seem to have a cohesive team spirit.
Much of this no don't is to do with the manager he seems a solid one even if we know little about him but, as strange as it will seem because of the class in goal scoring he undoubtedly brings, the team seem to have come together more when they are not "built around" Harry Kane!
That is not me digging at him as we all know he is a quality striker showing it as we knew he would at Bayern but I think it seemed right both for him and for Spurs that he moved on.
This will be a tough one away from home but I am hopeful!
1.) 25 Sep 2023 09:34:10
Be a very good game mate, spurs seem to play attacking football so it’ll end up being a high scoring game, everyone was raving about ugodie but saka had him on skates, Mo will destroy him, Sarr and Bissouma look great in those DM roles works perfect for them.
2.) 25 Sep 2023 09:53:57
SPurs are a good team and gave a more than decent account of themselves vs Arsenal who frankly, are still stuttering BUT still, hats off to Spurs cos Arsenal stuttering along is none of their business. They are playing for each other and with Kane gone, they can play freely as a team and express themselves without having to always pander and cater to his caprices.
So it will be a good game for sure and it will come down to who can control proceedings and take their chances, IMO. I hope it's us.
3.) 25 Sep 2023 10:42:32
I was just saying the same on another thread I think it will be high scoring and very entertaining. I agree Oli don't think Arsenal have found their stride look as tho a couple of backward steps and poss rice and saka injured today.
I think some spurs fans would agree Son most important player and not Kane, as good as he is. I think their issue is being too defensive with the talent they've had over the years and finally they've got a manager who's wanting to have a good go. Happy for the manager he seems a good bloke and was far from their first choice so wish him well just not next week. No European footie so i can see them pushing for top 4. I don't see united or Newcastle in that convo this season.
4.) 25 Sep 2023 12:21:09
Lads, it's Tottenham.
5.) 25 Sep 2023 12:39:16
Rigsby, you still have to show up and give your best, Spurs or not. A lot of Arsenal fans were talking absolute smack about how it would be the easiest NLD ever coming into the weekend. Only to lay a giant goose egg not even regarding the score BUT how underwhelming they were, by the account of many of their own fans after the game.
6.) 25 Sep 2023 13:21:02
Like I said at the start of the season Postecoglu knows what he’s doing - he has done since he started out as a manager here in Oz. As a person, from what I have seen of him he isn’t my choice for a night out at the pub, but he knows his footy. Spurs are on the way to being a different beast. I’m really looking forward to the game and I’m going to put this week’s pocket money on it being 4 - 3 to us. You read it here first.
7.) 25 Sep 2023 13:39:47
I’m not sure why Spurs it’s all positive and Arsenal are “stuttering” tho mate I mean both are unbeaten and didn’t Arsenal take lead twice. We have to remember it was only one year (last year) in the past 8 that spurs were not higher at end of season than Arsenal. Both decent outfits for me! Hope we prove better than both!
8.) 25 Sep 2023 15:22:36
Because Arsenal have aspirations to win the league Metro whilst Spurs are just trying to reduce the gap to the top 4. Personally I feel that Arsenal got on a good run last season but ended the season being exactly the team we thought they were. Some talented players but ultimately a soft underbelly. I see no different this season. Top 4 is about the best they can achieve in my opinion.
I live in Spurs country and have been telling their fans for years they’d be better without Kane. He just became too big for them. It’s allowed Ange to galvanise the squad without pandering to one player which has massively helped him. The test will come when the bubble bursts and they go through a tough spell. They still have a lot of average players in there.
Let’s hope we burst their bubble on Saturday evening, it will be tough but player for player we have a much superior team.
9.) 25 Sep 2023 16:10:30
It's really hard to not like Ange. Seems a top bloke and someone very chilled out. Also he's a Liverpool fan!
10.) 25 Sep 2023 18:34:10
Metro, whatever Beckers said. Arsenal were supposed to be the team to challenge City and they are already 4 oints back and have been stuttering thru a few of their games. They concede way too many goals at home with 5 this season (3rd most last season), they make too many defensive mistakes and they don't score a lot of goals currently cos their system isn't allowing them to create enuff chances, IMO. You ain't going to be challenging City if you're doing all the above moving forward in theshort to medium term.
As for Spurs, it's positive for them cos they were so crap last season that the only way to go was up going into the season. They are doing well, don't have to carry the prima donna in Kane anymore and they play with freedom and of course, a lot of house money right now. Can't say the same for Arsenal.
11.) 25 Sep 2023 18:35:02
I think you’d be hard pressed to tell anyone at Spurs that Arsenals aspirations are to win league and theirs are top 4 (club resources or fan base) .
Arsenal falling short last year should not have come as a surprise to anyone nor should them being on a level playing ground with spurs this year.
The gulf in points was never representative in the gulf in terms potential. One over achieved the other under achieved.
IMO both of these sides are top 4 favourites with us but both a way off Man City who unfortunately I believe (tho hope not) will win it again.
12.) 25 Sep 2023 21:40:42
Metro, your latest comment here I do agree with completely. As for City, they are fav's right now until someone dispossesses them. Let's see.
13.) 26 Sep 2023 10:19:08
I agreed Metro but you know what the media are like. Arsenal have one decent season where they choked in the last 3 months and suddenly they are City’s biggest challengers and the only team capable of toppling them.
We have one poor season when we were trying to implement a new system whilst constantly losing key players to injury and we are suddenly completely out of the reckoning.
I was listening to TalkSh*te yesterday and they were now saying it will be City and Liverpool at the top again. It always has been for me. We had a poor season last time out due to lots of factors but we were always going to come storming back.
Arsenal are top 4 hopefuls that had a good run the the first half of the season. They were largely helped by some absolutely criminal refereeing against us at the Emirates as I think that game gave them huge momentum and belief that they carried for the next few months.
10 Mar 2024 21:28:49
Hmm Bayern Guarantees him a title? Really? Tell the current manager that! Some odd sentiments there!
31 Dec 2023 17:41:31
At 26 in a position and a game style of pace requirement I suspect a “long term” replacement he’d not be!
15 Dec 2023 11:40:47
Some players just don’t suit some clubs, managers, formations and set ups. I don’t know that he’s “not good enough” I’ve not seen enough to be fair to judge. Wish him well wherever he goes and see if he does prove to be a player! We’ve helped players become successful in the prem from average starts and if he has the right desire and the right set up for him who knows?!
08 Nov 2023 18:49:56
It’s BS.
05 Sep 2023 14:34:02
Whether it’s crazy or it’s not the club is always bigger than the man!
Salah is a Liverpool legend regardless of when he goes; Stevie G is and Hendo is (I had to get that in because both are coming in for criticism and we have to leave them alone IMO) BUT
Every single one of them are a drop in the Liverpool FC Ocean, these greats of the club come and go and will be ALL be replaced by new greats they all deserve a thanks and a respect but with LIverpool FC we look forward……. YNWA.
22 Apr 2024 16:49:15
I think someone just misinterpreted a quote from KK who apparently said if we do get Amorim there ‘are neh slots’ left to fill! ?.
25 Jan 2024 07:55:05
Did I see an Ed compare Curtis Jones to Tom Davies?
Whilst I agree a little about the holding onto the ball still too long I see huge development like most. TD never developed IMO at best he stood still, likely regressed his game.
Was good in Wonka tho ?.
23 Jan 2024 06:31:53
The original post made reference as if our academy brought the players to fruition. I am sure when we bought him as ALREADY A DEBUT PREM PLAYER that we helped develop further, as we do with all player we purchase no matter of their age or experience.
My point is I am not sure we can claim him a “product” of our academy when he was already ready to make a Prem debut as a result of another’s academy, or does that mean you can be a product of multiple academies.
I really am not bothered by what the “official” academy player rules are that is for alternate purpose as opposed to bragging rights about the greatness of one’s academy.
I, as a Liverpool fan, don’t have to take a “freebie” to be proud of what we have in our academy structure and I certainly don’t want other fans claiming I do!
22 Jan 2024 08:11:39
Not sure we can claim Elliott as “came through the academy” when he made his actual premiership debut at Fulham but I get and agree with your point about the excitement.
30 Dec 2023 08:11:25
None of them look good enough to survive? I actually think Luton will at the expense of another. They have some heart and team spirit for certain.
And I actually think Gravenberch ain’t all that bad.