13 Jul 2025 22:40:18
I'm seeing "nunez has to go" from a few. I'll never say another player ever "needs to be moved on" after jota. I'll trust the club and remember these players are human beings. Still heartbroken over the lad. Wish it was a bad dream.
13 Jul 2025 23:26:21
This.
This has been my issue all along. Liverpool fans support their team and their players.
Liverpool customers obsess over who is next and in order to justify that weird craving they slag off their own team all the time.
I’ve never met a bunch of people who hate their own team as much as some of the people posting here.
Terrible fans.
{Ed078's Note - think "fans" is what you meant.
14 Jul 2025 00:06:19
To paraphrase Rainier Wolfcastle, if he stays, he stays.
14 Jul 2025 00:10:02
I think it’s in the language Batman. It’s ok to not believe a player is up to the standard we need but some do talk about these players like they are inanimate pieces in a computer game.
There can’t be much good to come from a young man being cut down at the age of 28 but hopefully it might make people stop and think before they castigate someone for having a bad game or making an error.
We are all just people trying to make it through what time we have as best we can and we never know how much time we have left.
RIP Diogo and Andre.
Forever our number 20.
YNWA.
14 Jul 2025 01:15:31
If Darwin stays I’ll support him. If he goes, good luck. Until he leaves he’s one of us.
14 Jul 2025 03:14:38
customers complain ad nauseum when they don't like something.
I don't think Why0why made a mistake :)
14 Jul 2025 04:39:13
Batman7, the reflection on previous posts in admirable. ?.
14 Jul 2025 04:50:32
So Darwin didn't quit on LFC last season? Was his poor form and fit the only reason the manager did not trust him any longer? And let's not start using someone's memory in pushing every agenda.
14 Jul 2025 05:21:26
Anyone who calls football supporters customers really doesn’t get it and should be ignored entirely.
14 Jul 2025 06:35:07
So I can no longer offer objective criticism on a player? I don’t think Nunez is good enough and think he should be moved on. If he stays I’ll support him but it won’t stop me thinking he isn’t good enough.
14 Jul 2025 07:40:47
Sorry I disagree with you OP. There is, as an example, Nunez.
Now I don’t know him, in the same way I didn’t know Diogo Jota, and I wouldn’t make a judgement of either of them as a human being. I ‘m willing to accept that people who may have met the guys think they are decent human beings and I’m happy to accept that as information come the day I meet Darwin. If I ever met him. I might not actually like him but that is an entirely different thing.
However, as a fan of Liverpool FC I want us to have the best of everything - program sellers, tea lady, coaching staff, management, and especially the players. I’d want each and every one of them to be the best there is at the job they do. If they aren’t the best and there are people out there who are better then I’d be happy to replace the current incumbent with the better option provided they wished to join. I say that as someone with a bit of experience as a manager outside of the football business.
14 Jul 2025 07:42:25
Of course you are Frode surely that's what this site is about? For me as long as it doesn't go beyond what happens on the pitch then it's only natural to have an opinion. We criticise or big up potential signings in the same way but im sure nobody wants anything bad to happen to any of them personally.
14 Jul 2025 07:46:02
At the end of the day it matters not a jot whether you or I think a player isn’t good enough, Frode. Neither of us are the manager.
Fans need to remember their place. We are supporters, not team directors, tacticians or managers.
14 Jul 2025 08:27:23
It’s a team, no actually a squad, game!
Nunez is part of a winning squad.
Too many look at individuals and it is not an individual's’ game
Not all players are as impactful in every single team but Nunez played his part in #20 that’s for sure.
Last season we were the best WDW.
Hoping we are again this season - whoever leaves or joins meantime I thank them and wish them well!
Enough said.
14 Jul 2025 08:29:34
You only have to look at the recent vitriol thrown at Hughes over the transfer situation.
As soon as the team drop their first points in the upcoming season the usual suspects will be out slagging players/ staff off, wanting them dropped/ punished/ sold/ sent to train with the reserves.
Criticism is fine, but some of the guff that gets spouted on here is over the top.
There's a distinction between supporters of the club and fans of winning. Once the winning stops, the latter make themselves very apparent.
14 Jul 2025 08:36:05
There will always be idiots. And there will always be “super fans”. Most sit inbetween
But what Happened to Diogo we all come together and show all the love, forever number 20.
14 Jul 2025 08:44:31
I think it's fair that fans want the best for their team and approach the question of Nunez from that perspective. I too agree that he isn't the best fit for what we need right now from a footballing perspective. I also think it's fair that from a human perspective we want Nunez as a Liverpool player to thrive and for the conditions, as far as the club are able and willing, to be in place for him to be able to do so.
What I personally take issue with are the hyperbolic suggestions that Darwin has been a complete bust and that we should be glad that anybody is interested in taking him off our hands, I think it's a very unfair assessment of his ability as a player and his time with the club as a whole.
Has he lived up to expectation? Probably not, and it's clear he isn't a good fit for Slot's style of play. Admittedly as hard as he works and is willing to work he is not a very adaptable player, and he is maybe not technically good enough to be the versatile attacker that Slot wants. A team needs to be built around his strengths to get the best out of him, and he needs the trust of the manager and the fans, which all in all amount to a pretty high investment of time and resources for one player. I do, despite everything I have said, think that if Jurgen was still here he'd be a crucial part of the team, so folks saying that he has consistently proven over three years that he's not up to it are being very unfair.
Several players have been unable thus far to seamlessly make the transition between Klopp and Slot, that's just par for the course and happens with every such change, the players themselves aren't bad players because of it, and there remains a small chance that they could yet prove their worth and make adjustments to their game if they were to stay. IN Nunez' case I think it is a bit unlikely given his skill set, but I also don't think it's impossible. At the very least I would like it if we as a fanbase had a fairer assessment of his time at the club.
14 Jul 2025 09:16:41
It is the apparent anger directed towards some of these players.
On here I objected to terminology about Diogo, he was a “waste of space” and needed to be “pastured out”. He wasn’t. Not even close.
The language around a kid like Quansah.
The language around Nunez.
It’s bitter and it’s deeply unpleasant. I don’t believe Harvey can make it for us because I think Slot likes players that are super mobile and Harvey is not that. But he’s a cracking player and if he does go I hope he has a brilliant career.
Some of the things I read this week about Konate and Robbo. These are lads that have won us everything, given us ridiculously good times as fans and won the lot and yet if a consensus was taken from here then…Trent, Konate, Robbo, Jones, Nunes, Jota, MacAllister, Diaz, Chiesa, Quansah were all terrible and can be easily upgraded or should be sold or “pastured out”. Seems we do awful well with awful players.
I just know that this is not what Liverpool fans do.
14 Jul 2025 09:08:34
He still needs to go, it was a preseason game an emotional one but still for his own good.
14 Jul 2025 09:36:14
For me it is about levels.
Everybody has a right to have their own opinion on players and a right to express that opinion in public - it is written into the Human Rights Act.
The problem on here is that peoples 'opinions' often overstep the mark. Posts often aim to belittle players, state assumptions about their behaviour as fact and regularly de-humanise them. It is ironic that some on here will use their rights as a human to try and de-humanise another to the point where I felt the need to comment on a Nunez thread a couple of days ago after one particular vile analogy.
It is not hard to be civil toward other human beings so please keep your opinions coming - life would be boring if everybody thought the same - but please just try and keep it constructive and show a little respect to the people being discussed, the other poster on the site and all the Ed's who put up with so much.
14 Jul 2025 09:47:45
Nunez failed under Klopp and he has struggled even more under Slot, let’s not sugarcoat it.
He can turn it around and I’m more hopeful Slot can help him than anyone else. Darwin probably needs to learn the lingo if he’s going to succeed.
The most important thing for him to do is forget everything he did under Klopp. This ‘chaos’ nonsense has ruined his game. Strikers don’t succeed by being chaotic, the succeed by being clinical and opportunistic.
1) he needs less intensity overall and he needs to channel his intensity into concentration and focus.
2) he needs to learn to sec his runs. Easy to learn but requires focus and concentration, not chaos.
3) he needs to concentrate in the box. No chaos, only concentration. Learn to isolate yourself mentally from everything else going on in the box and focus on putting the ball in the net.
Paisley used number 3 on Ian Rush who struggled when he first arrived. He asked Bob, ‘when I’m in the box I’m not sure whether I should pass it or shoot’.
Paisley summed up number 3 by replying “if you’re not sure then put the ball in the back of the net and we’ll talk about it later”.
Rush never looked back.
Darwin, just concentrate on putting the ball in the back of the net.
14 Jul 2025 10:29:12
You can't use the passing of Jota to try and point score over other people's opinion.
People have opinions, they differ. Some will think Nunez deserves another season, some will think he's shown for long enough he's not good enough.
Using the tragedy of Jota to try and prove you're a better fan because of your opinion is disgusting to be honest lad.
14 Jul 2025 10:30:07
To be fair Ron, I think the chaos reference was more to do with the chaos he caused to opposition defences, which is a genuine positive, and I wouldn’t want that to change.
However, I think you’re right, and there’s too much chaos in his own head when in front of goal.
If they could sort that out I think he’d be a superb player.
14 Jul 2025 10:38:48
@WhyOWhy - ask Trent Alexander-Arnold what he thinks. He might see things a bit differently.
@MetroRed, we were the best team last season, but we could have been better and we should strive to be better no matter how good we are and that means bringing in new players, amazingly other things. It nit a character assassination-of the players character as people, it’s a recognition that there are more skilful players out there.
14 Jul 2025 10:51:25
Frode, I think you need to borrow a dictionary and look up the definitions of 'objective' and 'subjective', A world of difference.
14 Jul 2025 11:34:04
Yep.
Stay in the width of the area, play on the last man, stay onside, hit it where the goalie isn’t.
Darwin has every attribute. It’s why he plays for Liverpool. His head fell off last year and he looked a little battle scarred.
If Arne puts his arm round him, gives him a specific brief (like with Cody and Ryan) there is a lot to work with.
Watch the goals and assists compilation for Nunez. It’s eye opening.
We’ve just signed the world’s second best chance creator. It won’t be a shock if that helps Nunez.
Either way, he’s a decent lad and warrants a bit more consideration.
14 Jul 2025 12:18:33
To continue being the best and stay at the top then it’s imperative that the club make improvements on the weaker parts of the squad.
Sure it’s a squad game but it doesn’t mean it’s necessary to keep the same squad regardless of a players ability. Sure we won the League which was a mammoth effort but just maybe a better forward might have got us THAT goal against PSG.
Moving players on is part and parcel of the game and so is supporting players who wear the top.
14 Jul 2025 12:24:16
Jota was a tragic event but say 80% of people wanted him gone, so now want everyone to stay? It’s still a business and players will move, slot slagged Nunez off for his lack of effort and a most on here did, now want him to stay because he has cut his hair and scored a preseason goal.
14 Jul 2025 12:29:59
Lest we forget, without Nuñez we wouldn't have scored that goal away at psg, either.
{Ed025's Note - "one swallow doth not a summer make"..
14 Jul 2025 12:30:50
Irish Rover.
That’s a bit of a false equivalency.
We can all have views on players. Some people didn’t rate Thiago. To me that’s crackers, but it’s opinions.
Slagging off players with such vitriol is the issue. Some of the comments I wouldn’t expect our most hated rivals to make. The level of disdain aimed at players who’ve just been part of an amazing season - all to justify the signing of players who are often nothing like Liverpool level is madness.
14 Jul 2025 12:41:28
Whilst I might agree with the ethos Irish Rover, I think the potential replacements which are available are risks.
We know what we have with Nunez, we know what he can do and what he needs to improve on.
Any new signing is a risk. They all come with high price tags. Most have not played in the premier league which is a huge adaptation to make.
Isak - unattainable ideal signing.
Cunha - would have been my choice.
Joao Pedro - decent second choice and an improvement.
We missed out on Cunha, Isak is not available, therefore I propose we stick.
14 Jul 2025 12:42:42
Great point Fatwallet, you’ve understood everything that’s been said and summed it up perfectly by getting it absolutely wrong.
Jeez comprehension is a challenge for some.
The issue is not whether or not players will or should leave. The issue is how poorly people on here talk about our players.
Players leave, players arrive, some are not quite right for us or the current manager - that’s football. It’s fine.
Slagging off our players, often nonsensically, out of a desperation for us to sign new players is embarrassing.
14 Jul 2025 12:52:03
I agree with you Patrik that Nunez has been very unfairly judged by many. Probably because of the price tag and the fact that the media pitted him against Haaland as they were signed in the same summer.
What I disagree on is his skill set. He has everything needed to be a success in this team. Pace, power, decent in the air, work rate, can shoot, can finish (yes he can finish) .
Where he’s fallen down is his mentality. As we all know football, like most sports is more between the ears than on the pitch and so far he hasn’t handled the pressure very well. He looks so desperate to do well that he runs around like a headless chicken, goes too early and snatches at everything. There’s no calmness or finesse like he had in spades at Benfica. Before we signed him Klopp even commented how calm he was in front of goal.
We definitely haven’t seen that Nunez at Liverpool but he’s in there. Perhaps what’s happened recently will give him the perspective he needs to just play and stop overthinking. I hope so because I still think there’s a top, top striker in there.
14 Jul 2025 12:59:27
Whyowhy are you seriously trying to say you’ve never slagged a player off? …. People/ fans are allowed an opinion and be able to voice it after games you know.
We talk about the football side of players not the other side that we don’t see……if we didn’t have a voice, what’s the point or this glorious site we have here?
14 Jul 2025 13:02:33
It won’t be the fans that are letting players go, it will be the club. So there is no justification needed. Unless Liverpool FC have started taking advice from fans forum?
Of course some posters should dial down on the rhetoric used against some players.
14 Jul 2025 13:03:07
I'll be the first to say that I didn't really rate Thiago during his time with us, either. On his day he was absolutely superb, and I think he was on the whole one of the best midfielders in Europe throughout his career, but he took a long time to get going after returning with injury with us and I don't think he ever really got to grips with the speed of the English game as a whole. People always said Lallana took too many touches but I don't think I can count the number of times I rolled my eyes when Thiago would do a stepover or a feint in the middle of the pitch for no reason before laying it off to somebody else 6 yards to the side. Still I can also admit that when he was on his game he was imperious, especially in Europe.
As for Darwin, I think I'm always going to be fonder of him than a lot of people on this forum. People talk about Gyokeres looking a surer bet than Darwin, but honestly the season Darwin exploded, he did it on the world stage in the Champions League, which is a platform that Gyokeres has yet to really shine in. Darwin was a one man battering ram destroying defenders in open space and on the flanks, hitting screamers from distance, he genuinely looked the most devastating striker in Europe. I don't think his future is with us but I do think he could get back to approaching that sort of form again somewhere else.
14 Jul 2025 13:26:00
If you didn’t rate Thiago when he was fit. Try clay pigeon wrestling because footy ain’t for you.
Now have I ever slagged a player off. Not like the customers on this page. No one hates our players more than some of you. It’s ridiculous how angry about players who have given us every cup available in order to champion players you’ve never seen is the part I cannot fathom.
Adeyemi. Have you seen him play? Have you seen Diaz? They’re not comparable.
If Nunez played for Napoli people would slag off Gakpo and demand we sign him.
14 Jul 2025 13:49:08
@WDW “more skillful” does not always equate to “more suitable” for the team as a little bit of experienced manager outside of football surely you recognise that ;)
14 Jul 2025 14:17:34
If Konate screws us for those frauds in Madrid then I will find it very difficult to 'be kind'. For me he will have no part in 'MY' Liverpool history and I wish him no success in his future endeavours.
People should think in whatever way they want, but there is literally no point slagging off the players on our books. They are doing a job until they are gone and if they aren't giving 100 then that's down to the Manager. Either fix them or stop picking them.
However comments like 'not what we need' or 'we need better' are opinions that are fair. 'He's a donkey' or 'not fit to wear the shirt' are embarrassing as they still have more talent in their small toes than anyone posting here.