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25 May 2024 07:41:03
Hey Ed's
Is leny Yoro a realistic target this summer seen a few articles on him and us but it does state Madrid are really keen and psg could go all in on him .
Not seen him play only seen the highlight reel but he looks like a very good reader of the game for a young lad and he looks exceptional on the ball also again YouTube made lazar markovich look like the next messi so thought to seek the input of the gurus and see what the real deal is on the lad . Definitely looks a talent like.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
1.) 25 May 2024 11:41:03
Best young CB talent in the world right now.
2.) 25 May 2024 12:18:45
@FPF - that’s one of those statements we’re we need to imagine the words “in my opinion” at the start isn’t it?
3.) 25 May 2024 12:47:06
Quansa, best young CB will continue to develop and in my opinion will push Konate out the team and he will be requesting a move, any Cb brought in will be to replace Konate and Virg long term. Last 3 games he grew in confidence. Huge potential.
4.) 25 May 2024 12:47:37
WDW - well, that’s just like your opinion, man.
5.) 25 May 2024 14:09:40
???@FPF.
6.) 25 May 2024 14:35:14
Never seen him, you think he be worth that kind of money then FPF?
7.) 25 May 2024 15:07:05
June, not sure what fee is being touted but if you are looking for a Virgil successor then Yoro is it. Obviously PSG and Real think so.
8.) 25 May 2024 17:06:37
Even though he plays RCB instead of LCB, is that right FPF?
9.) 25 May 2024 17:42:08
Van Dijk and a new CB beside him with Konate and Quansah as cover is the way to go. Sign players to start and make the current starters the squad players.
10.) 25 May 2024 18:12:50
Liverbirdsoars - he’s that good it doesn’t matter.
11.) 25 May 2024 18:26:38
Ok FPF, hopefully we get him so?. don't necessarily agree with that Onekiss, any new guy has to prove he's better than the other 2.We shouldn't forget how good ibou Was for most of the season.
12.) 25 May 2024 19:32:19
Sadly, it looks unlikely. He’s in the Mendes stable so Real, PSG beckons.
{Ed002's Note - Or somewhere else?}
13.) 25 May 2024 20:15:49
Yeah Ed - basically not LFC.
{Ed002's Note - Leny Yoro (CB) Lille kiddie who already has PSG, Chelsea and Real Madrid declaring an interest. Manchester City and Manchester United have sent scouts and Manchester City may be keen to do something. May have been noticed by Liverpool when scouting another player against Nantes, but no declared interest at this time - regardless of reports saying they will pay €90M plus for him. And Liverpool have preferred CB targets. Lille will resist a sale and continue to work on a new contract unless someone pays significantly over the odds for him - but if a new contract cannot be agreed they will need to reduce their asking price as he moves in to the final year of his contract. Chelsea has a preferred option but Real Madrid may push but knowing the player has made it clear he wants to join them - and that perhaps putting PSG off rather. Lille will ask for a player on loan as part of any deal with Real Madrid or Chelsea with specific players already mentioned.}
14.) 26 May 2024 07:57:23
Don’t think he’s a Chelsea graduate so doubt we’re interested.
Please say he’s not coming to the premier league Ed002.
{Ed002's Note - He may be, but he wants Real Madid.}
15.) 26 May 2024 10:46:58
That’s ok, he can go to Madrid and become like Varane.
{Ed002's Note - I don't think that is a good reason to turn on the youngster Ron.}
16.) 26 May 2024 11:19:31
€90m on an 18 year old has Chelsea/ Real Madrid written all over it. Think about some of the teen stars in football who tailed off to varying degrees after all the hype.
Walcott - Next Henry
Vaughan - Next Rooney
Januzaj - better than Ronaldo
Macheda - Next Van Nistelrooy
Ceballos - Next Xavi
Flanagan - Scouse Cafu
Smith-Rowe - Croydon De Bruyne
Sanches - future Balon D’or winner
Rodwell - future England captain
Barkley - better than Gerrard
If I’m spending €90m on a player I want someone with at least 3 years of top quality performances behind them. If I want a teenager with potential then I’ll take someone out the academy for free, please. I’ve only seen Yoro play a couple of times in the Europa league but from that admittedly small sample size he looks like he’s still developing. Not the right signing in my opinion even if he is potentially going to be top class. We don’t need to take risks. I’m still ecstatic we dodged Romeo Lavia who everyone convinced themselves wasn’t just a run of the mill academy product having a half decent break through campaign. He’s a prime example why you don’t sign teenagers for big money. For every 1 Rooney you get 50 Lavia’s.
17.) 26 May 2024 11:33:15
Very harsh on Lavia. He got injured. I was one of those that hoped we would sign him after our Ugarte chase ended. We can’t say he’s washed already.
18.) 26 May 2024 11:49:21
Cheers Ed. So what you’re saying is Liverpool could sign him by paying over the odds. You can’t get my hopes up like that lol.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has different targets in mind.}
19.) 26 May 2024 13:54:07
We should really be giving Van den Berg a chance. Him + VVD Konate Quansah are Gomez is more than good enough in terms of CB options, our problem defensively last season was coaching / tactics not individual quality.
20.) 26 May 2024 17:03:43
I’m sure Yoro is talented, but if we pay €90m for a CB this summer it better be Saliba, Dias or Bastoni. No other CB’s in Europe right now are worth that much.
21.) 26 May 2024 19:47:00
Not turning on him Ed002, Verane did well as a young French centre back in Madrid.
22.) 26 May 2024 21:21:08
I understand anyone coming in needing to prove they’re better or earn their spot but we haven’t won any of the big prizes for years I think the current players are still trying to prove they’re good enough. Bring top players in and have the current lads fight for their places back.
23.) 27 May 2024 04:54:50
Out of genuine curiosity, what sort of “a chance” should SvdB get in the coming pre-season? Hasn’t he been given a chance in the last three pre-seasons? Hasn’t he been monitored by the club whilst on loan for the past three seasons? What is it that is going to be different this pre-season? I get it’s a new manager this pre-season but . i reckon the last one and his staff knew what they were doing.
24.) 27 May 2024 07:52:05
He was too good to sit on the bench or be playing for the reserves, he's still really young and allowing him to play every week at a high level was clearly the best option. Personally I'd like us to load him out to a prem team this year.
25.) 27 May 2024 08:19:51
WDW, in 2/ 3 previous pre-seasons he's been packed off to his loan clubs late June or early July so we've barely seen him in a red shirt. Was the right thing to do as he got to spend those 2 pre-seasons with his loan clubs. But as a result he's only actually spent one full pre-season at the club in the last 3 seasons and he got 45 minutes of pitch time in a friendly against Crystal Palace.
I think all people want is him to be given a fair crack and maybe even start the season with us. He can always move on in January if things don't work out. Surely that is better than spending 60-90m euros on some other 18-22 year old CB from Europe? Sepp's got every bit as much chance to succeed as they would given his performances last season.
14 Aug 2023 10:23:12
We've agreed a deal with saints for lavia I was hoping it was all over this madness ???.
1.) 14 Aug 2023 10:29:47
Here we go again. who will the player choose.
2.) 14 Aug 2023 10:31:13
Imagine if he rejects us too after all that happened I do not exclude that.
3.) 14 Aug 2023 10:48:05
Also seen a report where its stats we've agreed to pay £60mill. If true then what a farce.
4.) 14 Aug 2023 10:54:00
Bonkers money plus reports the player wants Chelsea. Let them have him I say TBH, he's not a magic bullet for this team at his age and experience level - huge gamble.
5.) 14 Aug 2023 10:54:48
If true, and then he does end up picking chelsea, it would be an awful look for the negotiating team.
Caicedo was worth a shot, and we would have got the go ahead from the agent (at least I expect so) to go after that deal. Imo, that's just football and you move on.
However, if you wanted a player for £45m, moved on to someone over twice as much, to move back to the oringal player for 15m more, and still don't secure the player because he prefers Chelsea. It would definitley leave a sour taste in the mouth and really put the pressure on the powers that be.
Alternativley, we get the player for £60m and still look a bit foolish for not just paying the £50m they originally asked for.
As I have said in a previous post, there is a scenario where both Liverpool and Chelsea overpay on their targets by about 15m because they each got involved in the other deal instead of just biting the bullet and accepting the selling clubs terms. I. e. 50m for lavia or 100m for Caicedo.
6.) 14 Aug 2023 10:55:02
Holy crap. just pay little more and get florentino luis only.
7.) 14 Aug 2023 11:02:04
we wanted the player
If the opportunity is still and we have the cash then we should lick our wounds and make the deal.
8.) 14 Aug 2023 11:10:17
I can't believe how few suitable, top level DCM's there are available. We can't take another Naby sized risk.
FSG's MO is going to come under pressure with the ridiculous state of the market, and Jurgen already looked and sounded a bit stressed in his presser.
9.) 14 Aug 2023 11:15:34
Indecision, poor "negotiating instincts" or whatever you want to call it, or maybe just the inability to close a deal for whatever reason is proving to be very expensive for Liverpool. I'm a fan of Lavia, but after Fabinho's departure I'm unsure he's the type of player that's a top priority right now. Definitely seems to be a reaction to Caicedo going to Chelsea. Not sure I'm keen on LFC getting into an arms race with a club that has better resources than them either. Liverpool were better off when they followed a model and stuck to it in a disciplined manner.
10.) 14 Aug 2023 11:16:05
So embarrassing.
11.) 14 Aug 2023 11:19:10
I know we don't get on to finances here, but if it's anywhere near true that we could have wrapped Lavia up for 48m/ 50m with no other offers and now he's costing 60m, someone needs reprimanding because it's farcical
Only way that's stomachable is if the payment terms are more favourable based on more money but a longer term.
12.) 14 Aug 2023 11:28:19
One of the strangest transfer windows we've seen for a while from us.
Mac and Szobo looked like shrewd additions but it's been bad, public business since.
13.) 14 Aug 2023 11:31:33
Where’s all the people defending the club and their apparent logic for not thinking he was worth £50 mill so being justified in walking away?! I repeat, we are a mess and this last few weeks has been a shambles with us aimlessly trying to get a DM in and now paying over the odds for one we could have got weeks ago with proper planning and diligence.
14.) 14 Aug 2023 11:31:38
If he's going to Chelsea to get an 8yr deal on good money like MC then let Chelsea have him. He must know he's not going to be first choice. However if he still wants a decent wage and will play regularly then surely he'll be advised to join us. I only want the latter kind of player at LFC, not just money motivated ones.
{Ed002's Note - Why would he not play regularly for Chelsea?}
15.) 14 Aug 2023 11:32:49
Feel sorry for Lavia. It's been a long saga with us chasing him and then we drop the interest overnight and go for someone else at over twice the price. Wouldn't blame Lavia for walking away from LFC now if Southampton have accepted the offer.
16.) 14 Aug 2023 11:40:09
Prices are insane. Definitely seems like an overpayment where we are paying for his potential.
However I do like the player and think he has the potential to be a top class player. Potentially world class.
I'm just going to have to ignore prices. I'm definitely hoping we get him now.
17.) 14 Aug 2023 11:49:40
If we’d bid £50m we wouldn’t have got Lavia because Chelsea have shown they also want him so would’ve bid higher.
Honestly, people are just losing their minds over nothing here it’s transfer negotiations and sometimes you win, sometimes you don’t.
Get a grip.
18.) 14 Aug 2023 12:31:19
The trolls are out in force today. Its worse than the 13th.
19.) 14 Aug 2023 12:49:19
Chill - we get someone else.
20.) 14 Aug 2023 14:45:24
Club needs a proper set up, with a director of football with a vision and authority.
Not some retired guy in Germany on 3 a month summer job. Amateur hour.
Absentee owners sitting in Boston watching baseball doesn't help.
21.) 14 Aug 2023 15:12:50
I agree with you, Red67. I always thought Mike Gordon did a really good job running the entire operation. He was able to keep JK in check. Since he's stepped back and Billy Hogan took charge things have been a bit of a mess. A club once a leader in research and analytics no longer how to put that incredible competitive advantage into practice. JK seems to have won a power struggle too and different sectors of the operation just feel out of sync. These are the fruits that weak leadership bears.
22.) 14 Aug 2023 15:49:35
I feel like I have to note too that I like JK, but I don't believe he's perfect. He's brilliant and has completely transformed Liverpool, but still needs a good boss above him. like most of us do.
23.) 14 Aug 2023 21:28:52
If teams stop including release clauses in player contracts, we will never sign a first-team level player again.
08 Jul 2023 08:11:40
Hey Ed's
I remember the name florentino luis of benfica being spoken of at times last season
Is he prem ready?
And is he still very costly as I remember that being the 2 major points he may need another year and would be expensive.
Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - Florentino (DM) Scouts continue to watch Benfica but they have no interest in selling Florentino Luis unless his buy out clause is met or nearly matched - they are aware MIlan see him as an option to replace Tonali but will look for a lower price but will be able to offer a player in exchange as well. Seen by Barcelona as a potential Busquets replacement., but, too expensive although they would look to include a player or two.Borussia Dortmund and Liverpool spoke with his agent last summer. Manchester City want to upgrade Kalvin Phillips and Florentino fits the bill. For Liverpool he would realistically be a Fabinho replacement but they are looking at others. PSG were interested but have moved for Ugarte. Napoli and Arsenal offer less likely options.}
30 Jun 2023 18:57:22
The annoying little sod that is fabrizio Romano
Has put his little HERE WE GO on
Szoslobai deal we've met the full release clause it has been stated .
1.) 30 Jun 2023 19:14:23
But, we've got no money!
2.) 30 Jun 2023 19:19:30
Raided the biscuit money tin, to pull this off.
{Ed025's Note - and hopefully you have got a cracker FW.. :)
3.) 30 Jun 2023 19:36:11
Don't think you really mean that ed025.
{Ed025's Note - i do port, i like to hob nob with the best of them, he might run like a penguin but he seems a real cool cookie who has scored a couple of jaffa,s, and at least your not scraping the bottom of the barrel with this one mate.. :)
4.) 30 Jun 2023 19:41:59
On form tonight ed25.
{Ed025's Note - except with the horses FW, i have got less in my account than Farhad Moshiri mate.. :)
5.) 30 Jun 2023 19:57:24
What’s annoying about it? Here we go aren’t u happy he broke some transfer news.
6.) 30 Jun 2023 20:21:59
This whole “we have no money” narrative is nonsense. We are wise with our money and have plenty of it. We don’t have oil money, I’ll grant that, but we are a huge premier league club. Of course we have money. We just aren’t stupid with it or offer what is obscene amounts of money for some dude with a fancy name that does step overs.
{Ed025's Note - spot on monty..
7.) 30 Jun 2023 20:55:47
Note to self :Remind me to not go for a bevy Monty.
8.) 30 Jun 2023 21:10:19
The right player at the right price.
As you say Monty, we don’t have money to waste and we don’t have cash to write of, say, £ 64m mistakes like Keita but that doesn’t mean to say that the club doesn’t try to get the right player at the right price.
9.) 30 Jun 2023 21:11:16
The only people saying the club has no money are the impatient ones.
Just read that the Anfield’s capacity for next season will be 61,000, that's kind of crept up on me somewhat, things moving in the right direction.
I am very much looking forward to next season.
10.) 30 Jun 2023 21:37:13
Dominik Szoboszlai, welcome to Liverpool our new No.8.
11.) 30 Jun 2023 21:50:41
The club shop’s going to have to stock up on Z’s there!
Not sure they were needed before?
Happy weekend people ?.
12.) 30 Jun 2023 22:06:44
Oops my apologies to NuneZ and DiaZ!
13.) 30 Jun 2023 22:14:58
Even before we'd made these two signings, I was already excited about next season. It was so obvious that this season was a blip, and that we were going to spend big. The anti-FSG lobby just wasn't making sense when they moaned about 'season after season of no trophies and no spending, ' and how FSG were only in it for the money.
It's simple: FSG can only make money if Liverpool are successful on the pitch. They want us to get back to the top as much as any fan. And they know how to do it, because they've done it before.
I'm not saying they're perfect owners, but I was always confident this summer would be exciting, and that next season will be a return to form.
Pretty good work so far, considering the transfer window opens tomorrow.
14.) 30 Jun 2023 22:52:58
Where was the money last summer when we desperately needed midfielders?
15.) 30 Jun 2023 23:22:36
@jay dub
Made up with the news just hate how Romano is seen as some kind of guru and he basically lends his name to other journalists / scoops and he making out as if because he says HERE WE GO
He’s the 1st to announce or he is the pinnacle of football transfer announcements.
The Ed’s give us much more than RAY ROMANO
He just gets under my skin . It’s not healthy how much he annoys me but he does
Making a living out of others is my opinion.
16.) 30 Jun 2023 23:40:12
It's like the classic what have the Romans ever dome for us skit from Monty Python ?.
17.) 01 Jul 2023 00:02:38
I actually don’t mind him @Dhfc, provided you take him for what he is.
Before he has heard definitely from his sources he is very careful not to say anything will definitely happen but once he hears actual confirmation he shares the information. From a Liverpool perspective I’m very happy to hear him say that a deal has been done.
18.) 01 Jul 2023 00:17:39
Oh by the way can every LFC fan reach back into the bowels of their couch and send their pennies found to PO Box 1952 Liverpool, as it seems Liverpool FC have no money, according to some.
Get In There Szoboszlai!
19.) 01 Jul 2023 01:50:47
@Hessle, I think we had the money to make a ‘big’ signing in midfield last summer. I’ve got no concrete evidence to back it up but I think we were after Tchouameni or Bellingham but the former wanted Real Madrid and Dortmund wanted to keep the latter. I think at that point the club thought we had enough coverage in midfield for us to challenge again in the season just gone.
Then I think two things happened that couldn’t be predicted. First we had a number of mids get injured in preseason which forced the panic loan of Melo, which didn’t actually help and actually cost us money. The second one was that when the season started out form dipped woefully particularly in the midfield. I strongly suspect that if the club had known it was going to happen they would have bought a couple of mids and tried to ship some out.
The club made mistakes but they can’t be blamed for being psychic and to say they couldn’t afford to buy anyone is just a made-up story to beat the club up.
06 Jun 2023 08:27:43
Morning Ed's
I see links to Marcus thuram have emerged but are these lazy journalists or is their anything in it?
Only way I see it being plausible is if jota was to leave
What's your take on this Ed's.
{Ed002's Note - Marcus Thuram (S/LW) Bayern Munich interest may well have gone like the interest of Spurs which went after they added Richarlison last summer. Arsenal interest went when signing Trossard. Inter are still hovering around the player and have made an offer. Atletico will look to him as a Cunha replacement and have also made an offer. Don't discount RBL or Manchester United looking to the Free Agent. Chelsea interest has gone. Juventus, PSG and Newcastle provide wildcard options.}
1.) 06 Jun 2023 10:09:40
Jota is our best goal scorer …. and hopefully will be for a long time .
2.) 06 Jun 2023 10:16:26
Jota is a lot better than Marcus Thuram IMO. Scores more goals and has done it in the Premier League.
3.) 06 Jun 2023 13:46:13
Surely our best goal scorer is the player who scores the most goals, Salah. Isn’t scoring goals the very definition of goal scorer?
4.) 06 Jun 2023 13:47:30
I was merely trying to point out that jota is the most likely to depart from our front 5 and would fetch a nice sum as his stock is still somewhat high .
Diaz gakpo and nunez going nowhere and salah is on big wages so don’t see anyone chasing him too hard .
I wouldn’t be opposed to jota leaving and thuram replacing him but equally happy with jota being a squad option think thuram gives a bit more of a presence upfront than jota and offers something a bit different.
5.) 06 Jun 2023 15:41:30
I'm not sure I see the need for a 6th attacker when we already have 5 attackers who are either world class or developing into being world class. If Thuram were to join, someone would likely need to leave.
6.) 06 Jun 2023 16:22:51
Who is world class and who is developing into world class?
7.) 06 Jun 2023 18:20:17
I was a little generous implying we have more than one world class attacker. Salah is still a world class player though, easily. Nunez has the ability but needs confidence/ consistency. Gakpo and Diaz both have shown flashes where they could reach that level. Jota is of lesser skill than the other 4, but all he does is score when healthy and he's strong on the press. Personally I like playing him ahead of the others because I think execution of the press is vital to how we play.
8.) 06 Jun 2023 18:24:54
And with that all said, Marcus Thuram isn't close to being able to take a spot away from any of those 5 players.
9.) 06 Jun 2023 19:11:57
Let’s hope one or more of the new boys really steps up next year.
10.) 06 Jun 2023 19:33:29
Haha, every time I see Navy Keith’s name pop up on this it cracks me up.
11.) 06 Jun 2023 20:34:35
@TB2, can I have your autograph please?
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14 Nov 2024 21:40:45
Curtis jones had a very decent debut for England tonight .
1.) 14 Nov 2024 21:51:00
Very happy for him. Not his biggest fan but he deserves credit for some good performances as of late.
2.) 14 Nov 2024 22:34:17
Maybe people outside of Liverpool fans will start appreciating his quality.
Also in Reds on International Duty: Kelleher saved a penalty and was MOTM for Ireland.
3.) 15 Nov 2024 01:00:12
Mainoo had few decent games - get called up few times
Jones had lot more of decent games - got his debut after lots pulled out
Hmmm.
4.) 15 Nov 2024 00:23:08
Well done to the lad and to Kelleher as well.
5.) 15 Nov 2024 05:31:36
Apparently the first Liverpool player to score on his debut for England since Sammy Lee 42 years ago.
6.) 15 Nov 2024 06:45:24
Couldn't care less about the English national team, but glad to hear to Jones played well and scored a good goal. There is though always that lingering doubt that he will pick up an injury, here's hoping it doesn't happen, there is definitely a quality player there in my opinion.
Not surprised at all that Kelleher played well though, excellent keeper in my opinion, if Ali was to leave, Kelleher would be my number one. Can't see him sticking around for much longer though, and rightfully so.
7.) 15 Nov 2024 12:07:20
Saw the goal. It's what CuJo does. True baller, IMO. The guy is so technically gifted, it's brilliant to watch.
31 Aug 2024 10:45:07
Thank god the window is closed normal service resumes and we can enjoy the redmen once again . We haven't signed the positions that most craved but we also haven't sold anyone near the 1st team either . Hopefully sort some contracts out now and get down to business .
3 points Sunday would be a great start . Can't wait to see chiesa play for us I think it could be the best business of the whole window depending on how he gets on (I've a feeling he will be a hit) . Some serious forward options we have and I know people don't see it this way but in midfield aswell we have some really really good players that are very gifted . I
Think we might be a bit of a force this season if we can keep players fit we have every chance.
1.) 31 Aug 2024 11:31:32
Just on Chiesa it’s just been reported that from last seasons stats only Szob recorded a faster running speed than him.
I know there is concern about his knee injury from a few seasons ago but it’s clearly not affected his pace.
Nunez is regarded as quick but Chiesa clearly has pace as well.
2.) 31 Aug 2024 11:52:22
Looking forward to seeing Chiesa play. Straight line speed is one thing but more interested in his agility with and without the ball.
15 Aug 2024 20:09:46
Hey the reds.
While everyone (including me) want further additions to the squad to make us more competitive and try to bridge the gap to city once again
The reality is when you have such a wealth of talent within the squad already and liverpools business model of not just buying a quick fix but rather the right player who fits the profile of the club etc strengthening just isn't as easy as it once was . I know other top clubs around Europe have bought players but a post I seen on here earlier pointed out no one has really bought anyone spectacular or any one we were after .
So I understand the club not shelling out millions on a player they don't seem to be the right player . frustrating as that can be it's also very sensible and wise ( I know some will disagree ) but the people in charge of the money at Liverpool are running us very responsibly and not getting us caught up in all this psr nonsense each season .
Now I know no one cares about how healthy the clubs finances are and we just want to win games and trophies but it really wasn't that long ago that we nearly went under and we're in an absolutely dire state .
We have become a fan base that has got used to being challengers and winning so now we haven't really challenged for a few years the want and need to get back to the top is greater than ever (well for a few seasons)
Missing out on targets have fuelled people's urgency and need to blame the club and Richard hughes but I really do believe in the people at the club will try to do what's best for the club players and financially .
Cliche as it is we just need to get behind the team and whoever dons the red jersey and hope we can challenge with the new style of playing and new signings that I think will surely come but are just taking our time to make sure they will be the right ones .
Up the red men.
1.) 15 Aug 2024 20:40:38
Have we really not challenged for a few seasons? I’d call last season a title challenge. Yes we ultimately fell short but we were up there all season.
3 seasons ago we came closer to the quad than anyone in the history of English football. Play that down if you like but it was a monumental achievement.
We should be proud of our club and what the players have done, not constantly play their achievements down because it didn’t quite go the way we wanted. The reality is all we can ask is to be competitive and we have been. If you’re competitive then sometimes it will go your way and sometimes it won’t but at least you have a chance.
2.) 15 Aug 2024 20:52:39
That's all well and good. Buying the right fit I'm sure is what every club wants to do.
My problem is poor planning. Liverpool staff are not identifying enough suitable players. Everyone loves plan A. But meanwhile while we are waiting years for that dream 6, Salah is aging and probably off next season for free. Unlikely next one up will be as good as Salah. Who knows maybe we all keep our powder dry on that and use Ben Doak until or dream RW comes on the market. I can definitely see Virg leave on a free. How on gods green earth is Trent not signed. You cannot wait for plan A in every position. Your plan has to go a lot deeper than that. I'm far from impressed how we've been run.
3.) 15 Aug 2024 21:28:15
The problem for me is BP yes we have a chance but with the squad we have it’s a slim chance. Players themselves are asking for help. On top on that if we lose our main players it becomes next to no chance. We need contracts signed and a couple of quality additions then we have a real chance.
I don’t think the players even fully believe they can win the league hence they call for help.
4.) 15 Aug 2024 21:56:59
If plan B after missing out on a player (Zubi) who Slot don’t even want is to revert to the players that Slot has been working with daily in camp, them I’m totally good with that.
5.) 15 Aug 2024 21:56:59
If plan B after missing out on a player (Zubi) who Slot don’t even want is to revert to the pla yes te Slot has been working with daily in camp, them I’m totally good with that.
6.) 15 Aug 2024 22:17:19
Who said Slot didn’t want to sign him?
7.) 16 Aug 2024 00:55:17
Theres no way to argue every other team is being run wrong except us. Every single other team is identifying the right players to improve them the same way we are, they've just actually went and got them.
8.) 16 Aug 2024 06:26:49
Nearly winning is a monumental achievement? You have to be on a wind up.
9.) 16 Aug 2024 06:31:53
@OneKiss, so are you actually saying that ALL of the players signed by PL clubs in the current window are going to be a success and will improve their respective teams?
10.) 16 Aug 2024 06:47:24
We absolutely challenged last season. We were top for the longest out of all teams, just fell away at the end as has been said. He have a good squad that is capable of winning trophies, we just need to drop this attitude that we are entitled. It's Slots first season in a new league with new players (for him) playing a new systems against tougher than usual (for slot) opposition. If we finish top 3 I'd say that's a good start, and better than Klopp managed btw in his first year.
11.) 16 Aug 2024 07:20:57
Surely City winning 3 of the 4 trophies is closer to winning the quadruple than us winning 2 of them.
Yes we played in more games than them and if we had won 2 games we would have won the quad. But if City had won 3 more games so would they.
Losing in a final is the same outcome as losing in another round. The same as losing the title on the last day is the same outcome as us not winning it last season.
12.) 16 Aug 2024 11:22:35
WDW of course not the same way zubimendi could have come in and not done well. But every single signing every other club has made has been identified as the right player for their team they aren’t pulling names out of hats we aren’t the only team assessing a squad or trying to identify the ‘right’ player, everyone is doing that, we’re the only team doing nothing.
13.) 16 Aug 2024 11:59:18
Mark - ed2 has commented on this, ed1 has said he isn’t the kind of midfielder we need.
But anyways, besides that, fans spend a lot of energy on transfers and complaining about things we don’t have. For me, it’s like, we’ve got Baj, Endo, Jones, Macca, Gravenberch, let’s f***ing go!
04 Aug 2024 08:36:29
Now that the us tour is over and the team head home 3/ 3 and only 1 goal conceded I have to say I've watched all 3 games of the tour and last night was especially worth staying up for .
I thought mo looked really sharp and was looking ominous hopefully we hear of an extension if only a year or 2 as the man has still got fire in his belly and magic in his boots I'd just like to see him rotated and not run into the ground like previous seasons . (Get the best of mo )
Over the 3 games Quansah Elliot and Bradley look to be my picks of really ready for this season and all 3 could and should feature heavily in slots team much like they finished last season really
A big mention to jones aswell as he looks to be one to watch under slot he looks like he could finally have his big impact year (if he can avoid injury) I know that's been getting said for about 3/ 4 seasons now but this slightly slower more patient build up suits him perfect and on top of that he seems to have matured and is prepared to do the dirty work for others which I never thought he would be that player
You can really see positives of the team and coaching is starting to come to fruition most notably more late arrivals in the box when we are attacking .
Not to try and sound like a broken record but more control in the middle is what's needed to this team because they look like they can defend and they can surely attack . Once Macca returns I can see him being integral to this possession and playing in triangles style of play . But Macca alone won't solve this problem
I don't think wholesale changes are needed the way some fans are talking but a tweek here and there and it looks like a nice trajectory for the team .
We need to sort the contracts for mo Trent and virg rapid . Then I think that gives us a clear sign of what is needed .
Then we need to decide if Sepp vdb is buying in to us as a team or still wants his move he will get game time as hopefully we are on another 50-55 game season . If not he needs to go to make space (I'd prefer to keep personally I think he's done quite well and looks better on the ball than I thought he would )
Same goes for carvalho and endo they need to go if they're not in the plans .
Potentially same for tsimikas he can definitely be upgraded (I'd be all in on ait nouri from wolves think he could be a great long term Robbo replacement)
But even without a signing and some outgoings we still have a great squad for the upcoming season and providing their are no major shock departments and bad injuries to the team I fully expect us to be right up their with city and arsenal .
Come on the red men ??.
1.) 04 Aug 2024 09:13:59
Cheers Dhfc good read that.
On Mo I think if we put up his goals and assists for the last 5 seasons without a name or age next to them then it would be a no brainier to extend or sign said player.
Virg is still our best centre half and still one of arguably the best centre half’s in Europe.
Trent is a tricky one. He’s a top top class player but where is he going to play is the answer. Bradley has made it less of worry as he’s been excellent and do you make your right back the highest paid player at the club and rotate him. If he’s not rotated then that means Bradley isn’t going to wait around.
Easy answer is to put Trent into midfield and this has been the argument for quite a few years now and we don’t even know if Slot wants him there or if it would work at PL and CL level.
For me Trent is our first choice right back but in Slot I trust and look forward to see what solutions he comes up with.
2.) 04 Aug 2024 10:07:08
Nice post dhfc. Util recently I was disappointed in the lack of transfer activity. But maybe we're more or less there and Slot wants to assess what we have over the coming months and bring any necessary reinforcements in January. I think the contract situation for Mo, Trent and VVD should be the priority now.
3.) 04 Aug 2024 10:23:35
Hard to read much into pre-season games but there seems to be less “panic” in the penalty area.
Carvalho’s movement and finish was very composed, very impressive.
Mo picked out Jones with his cross, it was not just lashed across goal, Jones made a great timed run.
Onana made a decent save but Kostas was following up well.
Definitely reasons for hope.
4.) 04 Aug 2024 10:39:46
Totally agree on Trent @jk but I do feel in this slot system playing like our fullbacks of old high and wide
And making overlapping runs will see Trent return to levels above Bradley . Although Bradley is an incredible talent in his own right Trent is a level above for me still . Like I said in the above post it should be a 50-55 game season so both will get plenty of game time and it’s great that we have 2 quality right full backs . moving Trent into an already over inflated midfield just over complicates things for me . Keep him at full back but allow him to be very front footed in the system and have someone prepared to cover him when he goes that’s how I think we get the best out of Trent . Only my opinion mind.
5.) 04 Aug 2024 11:15:09
I’d like to add, again like many have said before. We’ve got some seriously talented kids at our football club.
I don’t watch any under 21’s. Obviously I was there at Wembley. But the odd time I’ve seen these kids they’ve blew me away how talented they are.
6.) 04 Aug 2024 11:22:38
Don't be expecting 20 goals + from mo this season. That's not how he's being asked to play now. He's staying much more wide and cutting back from the byline which is typical of the way slot plays.
Anyone expecting mo to be a goal machine is expecting too much.
7.) 04 Aug 2024 11:37:06
Dhfc I totally agree. I see Trent as our starting right back.
Is it a difficult conversation to have with him though where the club are saying you're used to starting 98% of games when you're fit but now we are looking to start you in say 60% of them but make you our best paid player.
Plus we are in the CL and not Europa so which games would we be rotating payers in.
Only Trent will know if in his peak years that's good enough.
And the other factor is if he's made captain he has to start majority of games but then where does that leave Bradley.
It's a great headache to have for Slot and I just wish Trent had more than 10 months to run on his contract because he's at a cross roads right now and will surely want answers to such questions.
8.) 04 Aug 2024 11:39:51
Nevada £10 charity bet mate on Mo being our top scorer next season.
9.) 04 Aug 2024 12:21:48
Nice one, DHFC. Didn't see the game but by some accounts, Slot played a diff. system than the one deployed vs Arsenal. As in rather than play out of Utd's press from the back, the CB's played long balls to catch them out. Maybe you can say if that was effective or not.
I did see the highlights and Utd did have some good (not great) chances to score but Kellerher was on the job and there were some hairy moments passing out the back as which gave them a couple of chances but it's preseason so you can expect that. Either way, we took our goals well (3/ 4 big chances created) so that's always good.
Moving forward, I agree that decisions have to be made and quickly if possible re: Sepp, Tsimikas, Endo and Carlvalho (who is doing bits with Elliott, btw) in addition to sorting contracts out. Hence for me, this will help decide who we will sign and how to operate in the TM cos you can't add players if you can't make space for them in the squad.
10.) 04 Aug 2024 12:24:23
Jk I’ll have a go at that bet. Not cos I don’t think mo will be top I have a inkling nunez going to be clinical this year ( again) remind me when season over I will forget and I will pay up.
11.) 04 Aug 2024 12:49:08
@oli it looked to me to be more playing out from the back but when the best option was to go long they did which I liked . Kelleher often stepping up in between the centre half’s enticing utds press aswell . I’d say we maybe rushed things a tad when not needed to but that could be part of the old klopp get it forward as quick as possible in some players . But I’d say most of utds chances came from Liverpool mistakes ie wrong ball or keeping hold too long rather than Utd cutting through us . Im just a fan so people see different things when watching but very good signs and still a lot to work on I love slot not being fully happy with performance aswell .
And beating Utd no matter if it’s pre season or not is always good for the soul.
12.) 04 Aug 2024 13:42:31
Was at the game. The defence were shaky as they’ve ever been playing out of the back, looked and felt nervy all game. Konate especially. Bradley, Elliot, Quansah, Endo and Mo stood out.
Going long from the back won’t be a bad option going forward….
13.) 04 Aug 2024 13:50:07
Definitely Scouse John. If I take on any more bets I’m going to have to tell the wife she needs to get a second job.
14.) 04 Aug 2024 16:09:28
You're all wrong.
Viktor says Mo is washed up and finished, and he's always spot on.
Right?
15.) 04 Aug 2024 20:42:19
Thanks, DHFC. So essentially, we played the same way we did vs Arsenal in temrs of passing out the back to beat the press and going long when required. Also, we deployed Kellerher as a sweeper to create the extra man in CM vs Arsenal (something Klopp did a lot in his last 2 seasons) so not surprised to see Slot doing the same thing. Cheers, my guy.
16.) 04 Aug 2024 22:10:36
always hard to read into Pre-season games that we play well in and win.
Plenty to read into pre-season games if it's the reverse tho :D
I agree, there's no rush to bring in a new midfielder. In this system, we are well over-stocked in the middle of the park.
I'd much rather take a gamble on our own players than on a new player, especially when there isn't an obvious guy to bring into that role.
04 Jun 2024 20:43:00
So a date for city has been agreed now they are suing the premier league . Wow this has no sign of ending does it . Surely this is a ploy by city to influence the trial .
What's the thoughts on all this ed1 and will this drama ever end and if so how do you see it playing out? .
Personally I think it will all disappear with more money being thrown at the powers that be . Partly why football is dying and it's becoming entertainment but it's ironic that it's less entertaining these days ??♂️
Cheers.
{Ed001's Note - they will simply bully the Prem and a new trade deal with the UAE will emerge a few months after they get away with it.}
1.) 05 Jun 2024 01:46:24
I love City’s dig about the ‘tyranny of the majority’. ???
I love the idea that they are trying to put forward a case that they are being ‘picked on’.
It really is the death of the game if they ‘get away with it’. What are the odds of that happening 5hough eh?
{Ed001's Note - odds on I would say. }
2.) 05 Jun 2024 02:30:22
Can I just say that the rules were in place when the alleged infringements occurred. City are accountable for failing (if found guilty) to comply with the rules. Saying the rules aren’t fair years and years later is irrelevant.
3.) 05 Jun 2024 02:30:46
LOL
No balls, no balls at all.
4.) 05 Jun 2024 02:34:49
Of course they'll get away with it. The powers that be had to have known what was going on. Or at least had their suspicions. If it all blew up, they'd be tarred with the same brush. No way they're handing down punishments when they also directly benefit from city cheating. At the end of the day, the premier league benefits just as much from the big names playing for city. Big names = more viewers = better TV deals.
5.) 05 Jun 2024 06:38:35
What they’re doing (City Football Group) in shuffling around and hoarding players, with the aim of funneling the best ones to City, is ridiculous as well. I’m staggered it’s allowed but it seems like as long as you have deep pockets anything is possible.
6.) 05 Jun 2024 07:22:31
“The tyranny of the majority”, or democracy as it’s better known.
To date they’ve started countless legal proceedings against the league and lost all of them, at some point they have to be treated as vexatious litigants, I’d hope the PL push for this.
7.) 05 Jun 2024 07:35:41
Now there are 2 legal precedents successfully enforced, that has to make the PL case stronger.
8.) 05 Jun 2024 08:28:06
City Group signed to a contract which included the rules at that time. They were not coerced. They are highly unlikely to win this case.
The PL use some of the UKs leading legal experts. City group might have more money but they simply do not have better UK legal experts.
City Group are in trouble and they know it. This is a desperate act.
9.) 05 Jun 2024 09:32:08
The fairest thing for all would be to scrap ffp or the alternative completely and introduce limitations to how many players between certain age groups clubs can own/ employ.
10.) 05 Jun 2024 10:12:04
A question for one of the Eds.
Am I wrong in assuming that clubs must surely sign some kind of contract with the FA in order to be granted a license to take part in competitions?
If they do, surely a part of this contract would be to agree to abide by rues set out by the FA? If they didn't;t agree with the rules they should not have signed the agreement rather than ignoring them and then retrospectively trying to change the rules when they got caught. Surely their lawsuit is frivolous and they don't have a leg to stand on?
They really are the Donald Trumo of the football world!
{Ed001's Note - yes City signed a contract and agreed to all of the terms they are being asked to adhere to. They are just simply spoilt brats acting like spoilt brats do.}
11.) 05 Jun 2024 10:50:52
Ed001, interesting that they didn’t take a similar a similar lawsuit against UEFA who have even more stringent rules. To me this is an abuse of the legal system, I feel confident that the judiciary will strike it out and give it the contempt it deserves. I’d hope they’re barred from litigation for a long time to come through being vexatious litigants.
{Ed001's Note - it is ridiculous.}
12.) 05 Jun 2024 11:33:04
I am not a legal expert but it appears to me that what Man City are doing amounts to an admission of guilt. But then claiming that the rules they signed up to and agreed to discriminated against them.
13.) 05 Jun 2024 12:16:33
@Red7. It he “powers that be” are the ones who brought the charges against City. They did have suspicions of what City were doing. It would be rather odd to bring charges against City just to hush them up and, if they are trying to hush them up, they aren’t doing much of a job to date.
{Ed002's Note - The two matters are entirely unrelated.}
14.) 05 Jun 2024 12:27:28
VV, I was going to say the same thing. So according to them, ‘tyranny of the majority’ or democracy and majority rule, is now seen as a bad thing? I guess if you are owned by a country where democracy is non existent then, I get the point. Absolute snowflakes. Yet, they call LFC victims.
Of course, tyrants and the wealthy often think equality is a form of oppression cos heaven forbid someone demands that they share with the have-nots. Let's give them HELL, me thinks.
{Ed002's Note - You are aware that they are not the only club who don't like that rule?}
15.) 05 Jun 2024 15:44:34
But equally though Ed, at least 14 did vote for it, making it qourate. I mean, you know, I didn’t vote for Brexit or the Tory party but I got lumbered with both. It is what it is.
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26 Nov 2024 19:58:25
Nah more halasi thunderbird.
25 Oct 2024 18:16:35
A non story for me.
04 Sep 2024 07:25:57
@vango if that’s the case I’d be getting Mac-Ali a new contract as he is just pure class loads got the plaudits on Sunday but thought he just done everything with minimum fuss and flair and was excellent.
04 Sep 2024 07:23:11
You can never have too many good footballers . I wonder if by jan if sociedad are nowhere near European spots and no mega contract he was promised has materialised whether he will agitate the move or the mountains are just that nice he’s their forever.
29 Aug 2024 20:41:27
Yes now this is a rumour I can. Get on board with ?.
27 Nov 2024 19:31:47
Ed001 . We are all here for the same thing some knowledge and banter to do with the reds and football in general we might have lost a lot of knowledge in Ed02 but as long as we can get some insight at all and banter nothing has to change for me love the site the way it is . Crack on as best you can ??.
{Ed001's Note - that is all we can do mate. It won't be the same, but it will still be here.}
26 Nov 2024 06:55:07
Although I really want salah to stay I’m not in the give him what he wants at all costs bracket . The club comes before any player but I also acknowledge salah is carrying us in terms goals and assist this season 2/ 3 I think belting to him . so I think a similar deal he’s on will be agreed . Aren’t the premier league due to align with uefa with a 70% of income is for signings and wages so the club have got this to think about long term not sure when that will come in to effect but I think their are a lot of moving parts in this the biggest thing I take from his interview is he wants to stay.
25 Nov 2024 21:00:10
His link up play and vision is top drawer he looks to be adding a bit more aggression in to his game like he’s fully up to speed with the league now and he’s looking very good.
16 Nov 2024 07:37:41
Very sad news . What a guy was on the sharp end of his comments a few times I loved the bants and knowledge of the fella . Hope he’s in peace and hope all the other Ed’s are doing ok as you guys knew him better than us .
Ed02 built a community out of a website .
Massive respect.
12 Nov 2024 14:04:04
How sad is it that we are having to talk about the refs and governing bodies of football . The people to ensure equality and fairness yet they are being called out for bias / corruption. The game of football is dying guys and it will soon be classed as entertainment rather than competitive sport in my eyes .
It does make you wonder if the corruption shouts have substance. I’m not looking at it from an anti Liverpool point of view but more a pro city one .
One thing is for sure they have picked on the wrong fan base, team and city if it is corruption and if their are more involved. Obviously coote will be the sacrificial lamb and it will end with him if it is but I’m pretty sure he’s been involved in a lot of high profile mistakes against our favour .
Let’s hope this doesn’t effect us on the pitch as I’m loving watching us at the moment less heavy metal and more rock n roll and I like it.