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02 Aug 2020 11:06:48
We are being linked with Kostas tsimikas today and apparently his fee has been lowered, he seems like a great option for the squad if it's a serious link very much like Robertson, Ed's do u think there is any legs in this one?

{Ed002's Note - Kostas Tsimikas (LB) another option for Leicester if Chilwell were to depart but a Work Permit could be an issue in England unless a reasonable fee is paid. Yuto Nagatomo is due to be replaced in the summer so Galatasaray have looked. Third pick for Napoli as a Faouzi Ghoulam replacement but they could end up pushing. Fenerbahce are short a LB and have Hasan Ali Kaldirim out of contract in the summer. Locomotiv Moscow have Maciej Rybus heading for the door this summer and have seemingly given up hope on Mikhail Lysov and have been in contact with Olympiacos over a deal for the summer. Sheffield United and Nice have looked and declared an interest and Nice have discussed terms with his club but have failed to reach any agreement.}


1.) 02 Aug 2020 11:44:22
Thanks for reply ed, obviously he is linked with a lot of clubs who probably want him as a starter so see how that one develops .


2.) 02 Aug 2020 19:37:52
Ed u say permit if reasonable fee paid? Does that mean if u buy a player at such price u don’t need a permit am I taking that the wrong way cheers!

{Ed002's Note - It is a points based system and you need to get points from transfer fees and wages to be eligible. It will again change next year.}


 

 

14 Jul 2020 10:43:57
Hi Ed's we are linked with Leandro cabrera today is this realistic, and if so is he rated at all?

{Ed002's Note - Leandro Cabrera (CB) Real Betis have been discussing a potential loan for the 29 year old Uruguayan journeyman with Espanyol but they prefer a sale.

It would make little sense for Liverpool to be looking at a 29 year old non Home Grown player who is not the desired first choice player Klopp is keen on.}


1.) 14 Jul 2020 11:01:12
Thanks for the reply ed, sorry to ask but who is klopps first choice?

{Ed002's Note - Diego Carlos would be first choice but Liverpool are not able to fund a move at this time.}


2.) 14 Jul 2020 11:22:19
Do u think there will be an alternative too carlos, he looks good but too pricey.

{Ed002's Note - I understand Diego Llorente but there is no money right now.}


3.) 14 Jul 2020 12:00:45
Thanks ed this C.V. is sucking the soul out of football not just in the stadium but also the transfer market . We win the league after 30 years and we are feeding of scraps too stay competitive.

{Ed002's Note - It was unexpected and the loss of revenue did not support the business model used by the club. I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season.


4.) 14 Jul 2020 14:30:55
" I would think pretty much all PL clubs will make a loss this season. " And that's the sad reality of it all. Why if no one is bought and/ or sold this summer, the loonies with the "Klopp and FSG out" and "I can't believe we don't have the money" bit should restrain themselves.

{Ed002's Note - PL clubs are not all in the same boat of course. Some will make a loss but still have money to spend, some will make a loss but will have to sell to buy, a couple will make a loss and figure out how to get back in shape FFP wise etc..}


5.) 14 Jul 2020 15:38:38
Chelsea have a lot of players on loan and in current squad that can be sold plus already money rich so they could load up big time. Same story with man city players too sell big dough them 2 will definitely be splashing .


6.) 14 Jul 2020 16:54:06
Ed 002, how do i find your definitive response on why there is no money for Carlos? I understand that the current global economic situation has seriously interfered with the plans of well run businesses who are not a bottomless pit of cash BUT surely if we sell, Carlos can be brought in part ex for Shaq? Shaq's got to be worth 15-20, Grujic the same or more, ditto Wilson.

{Ed002's Note - If LIverpool sell players and the club agree to use that money for transfers, then deduct 25% and there will be a small budget. The finances are not in relation to any one player - I have explained that Liverpool have financial commitments to be met - perhaps search on "commitment" or "payment".}


7.) 14 Jul 2020 18:38:13
I would think Chelsea, United and especially City will be active in the transfer market. The Guardian reported this morning, Pep will be given £150m!


8.) 14 Jul 2020 18:30:07
Ed002, I understand the finances in the present are being impacted pretty severely by everything going on right now, but we haven't really discussed a transfer for Carlos involving deferred payments. Is something like that off the table with Sevilla because they want/ need the cash from a potential Carlos sale?

{Ed002's Note - The club don't want to be building further debt. The CEO has made everything clear as well.}


9.) 14 Jul 2020 21:35:49
Do we have any green shield stamps?


 

 

18 Jun 2020 07:34:56
Could there be any truth in keita possibly leaving I have heard ac milan are interested or a return too Germany?

{Ed002's Note - It seems rather speculative based on Rangnick taking over as coach, but he has been a disaster at Liverpool. The Italian government could block a move based on his conviction and I don't see how Milan could easily pay for him. Regardless, if there were a good offer for Keita I would expect Liverpool to seriously consider it as the return on their investment has been dreadful. I am also told he has stood out in the recent "pre-season".}


1.) 18 Jun 2020 09:41:57
Stood out in a good or bad way ed?

{Ed002's Note - A good way.}


2.) 18 Jun 2020 11:12:22
Some years ago, Voronin stood out in "pre-season"


3.) 18 Jun 2020 11:12:44
I'd love this fella to come good. There's a regular starting place for him in our midfield I reckon depending on the opposition e. g. one of those games where we want a more attacking shape - he just needs to stay fit. Ultimately he could replace Hendo, surprised to see it was his 30th birthday yesterday!


4.) 18 Jun 2020 13:13:13
Takumi and Keita to surprise alot. no fans. freedom to express.


5.) 18 Jun 2020 13:23:42
I'm assuming Keita is on a 4 or 5 year contract. So basically the first half (or almost the first half) of the contract has been a failure from a footballing point of view for the club. The return on investment the club was expecting has been nowhere what the club planned on. Yes he shows glimpses of talent from time to time, but then so do one season wonders, and we've all seen plenty of those. If an offer close to our purchase price comes in, I would look at it seriously. And re-invest in another player showing the promise Keita showed but didn't deliver.

I don't see Keita as a successor to Henderson at all. Keita has nowhere the physicality to be able to carry out the role Hendo carries out for us. And judging from the various stories and events that have occured since I first heard of him as a target, I see him as somewhat of a lightweight, both physically and mentally. Of course he is still a talented footballer, but being the linchpin of our midfield is probably a step too far up for him.


6.) 18 Jun 2020 14:14:36
Good aul naby!


7.) 18 Jun 2020 15:17:54
Voronin was a free transfer. His goal against Toulouse set Liverpool up to the Group stage of CL - that goal paid for everything (including his beach holiday! ) . Keita is a 52m bad investment but hopefully, he will come good.


8.) 18 Jun 2020 18:43:35
How can you call Kieta a “bad investment “ been ravage by injuries but when he has played he has looked like he could do well for us with a good run in the team. If the club decides to sell him I think they would recoup the transfer fee. Unbelievable statement that mate.


9.) 18 Jun 2020 18:50:02
I was all for moving him on but he might just get another under the current circumstances.
There are glimpses of a good player on occasions, when he's fit but he needs to stay fit and get a run of games to see if he is the player we hoped he would be.


10.) 18 Jun 2020 19:17:58
Scouse John L8. But why is what I wrote "an unbelievable statement"? Which part of it is unbelievable? Do you think the club is happy having paid for a player a year in advance before he joins and then seeing almost 2 years of non-performance from him? And there are other issues with him, but my post was not about slating Keita at all, and citing those issues would appear to be exactly that, slating.

Joe Gomez went out for a year and nobody said a word. Ox was out for a year and nobody said a word. And they both contribute far more than Keita does. So we're not exactly heartless monsters who don't understand the meaning and consequences of the word "injury". I supported Sturridge for as long as I could but once it became apparent that two years of injuries and not being available to play meant that he too should be moved on.


11.) 18 Jun 2020 19:30:28
I don't think keita has the desire to stamp his authority on the team, his value has probably decreased also .


12.) 18 Jun 2020 20:16:06
You are deluded to think Liverpool would recoup their fee.


13.) 19 Jun 2020 00:43:23
Behave John. Lightweight, frightened of the big occasion and looks like a headless chicken at times. Unfortunately, some players just do not adjust. I would love to play against him as an opposition player.


14.) 19 Jun 2020 05:13:45
First time posting on here. I don't get all the slate about naby.
Fair play he's riddled with injury at 52m an you want your moneys worth but everytime i see him play a lot of players back off him because its near impossible to press him with close control.

The midfield balance is not quite up to scratch to accommodate midfielders like him. Maybe if he had a bit more weight on him people would be comparing him to yaya or something lol.


15.) 19 Jun 2020 06:43:31
I think Keita will end up being a success and prove all of you ‘supporters’ wrong.


 

 

16 Apr 2020 16:38:53
I have heard we are after brozovic, is this realistic?

{Ed002's Note - Marcelo Brozovic (DM) would be a like for like replacement for Fabinho. It would be difficult to see how he would get a game at Liverpool and he is certainly not on the list of players that Inter Milan are looking to sell.}


1.) 16 Apr 2020 17:52:23
Ok thanks ed I seen click bait before saying we in talks too sign, from the site I seen it on I knew it would be garbage but had too check it out, what about tete from shakhtar is he highly rated an possibly on the move.

{Ed002's Note - Tete? Liverpool has no interest in him - where are you getting all of this from?}


2.) 16 Apr 2020 18:45:39
Various sites online ed, I don't believe we are signing someone til they wearing the shirt, but I suppose I was asking too see if there is any interest.

{Ed002's Note - I am astonished people think Liverpool are looking to add Tete. But a nice cheap Salah replacement I guess.}


3.) 16 Apr 2020 18:47:43
It's on metro and Yahoo an others just thought I would get confirmation that its crap.

{Ed002's Note - Welcome Tete then.}


4.) 16 Apr 2020 22:57:27
If people stopped reading these stories perhaps there would be less of them.


5.) 17 Apr 2020 12:38:04
Then why are we on a site called liverpool transfer rumours, because of speculation and it begs a question "is any part of it true "


 

 

10 Feb 2020 00:13:44
Any legs in Bayern wanting our bobby Ed's do u think he would want too leave.

{Ed002's Note - Roberto Firmino (F) Bayern see RF as a versatile forward who can play on the left or through the middle but they have other priorories, so nothing is likely to happen. A way down the list.}


1.) 10 Feb 2020 08:01:50
Why would Bobby swap the champions of the Premier League for the champions of the Bundesliga? Doesn't make much sense.


2.) 10 Feb 2020 12:42:23
Steady on Gregarious it’s not won yet mate.


3.) 10 Feb 2020 13:38:21
Your right virgil steady on Greg Bayern haven't won the league yet🤣🤣🤣.


4.) 10 Feb 2020 17:24:14
Gregarious, don't forget champions of both Europe and The World.


5.) 10 Feb 2020 18:12:33
Bobby would have to leave kickin and screamin he’s the fan fav and he loves us! Not a hope it’s lazy journalists! Was vvd last week it’s boring!


6.) 10 Feb 2020 19:21:29
No (non boyhood) footballer loves the fans beyond Money or glamour.


7.) 11 Feb 2020 15:05:55
Bobby couldn't understand pipco going to Barcelona and tryed to get him to stay so why would he leave for bayern am pretty sure the wages would be less I maybe wrong about that so please correct that if I'm wrong.


8.) 11 Feb 2020 17:14:40
What none of us know is what footballing ambitions or dreams any player has. They may include winning as many trophies as possible; playing for one or more of the world’s most famous clubs; playing different types of football in different leagues; sampling the different cultures in several continents or countries; having a settled long-term base to raise a family; staying with his hometown club for his full career; earning as much money as possible in what is a relatively short career; or a mix of these. We should simply enjoy the great players that come to our great club and wish them all the best if and when they move on.

{Ed025's Note - only one of those has any credibility WW ....its the money mate and anyone who claims different...is lying through their teeth..


9.) 11 Feb 2020 18:28:56
Ed025, such cynicism in one so young! I will give you 3 examples off the top of my head to challenge your view :

Matt Le Tissier - could have had his pick of the big teams, earned more money, been more famous, won more trophies but stayed with Southampton throughout his career.

Alan Shearer - when he left Blackburn, was wanted by Manchester United where he would have earned more money and won more trophies but signed for his boyhood club Newcastle United instead.

Steven Gerrard - could definitely have signed for Chelsea and probably a number of other top clubs, earned more money and won the PL trophy but stayed with Liverpool.

Other posters will have lots of other examples.

{Ed025's Note - le tissier was from a different era WW so we can dismiss him, shearer followed the cash to go to blackburn and at newcastle was still one of the highest paid players in the league, gerrard tried to leave for the cash but buckled under the pressure of threats to him and his family...but good try mate.. :)


10.) 11 Feb 2020 19:21:59
Posters, help! Please come to my assistance and demonstrate to Ed025 that modern footballers are not all the greedy, money-grabbing, selfish so-and-sos he would have us believe. Or am I hopelessly naive?

Oh, and Ed025 - didn’t your very own Binman turn down an approach from Ferguson before he signed Schmeichel to stay with the Blues?

{Ed025's Note - again a different era WW, its all about the money now mate and i wish i could say different..but i cant..


11.) 11 Feb 2020 19:42:05
Ighalo? took a pay cut to join Man Utd last month?

What about all the Juve players that stayed when the club was relegated? They took a 25% pay cut i believe to stay with the club they loved?

Totti turning down Real Madrid to stay at Roma?

Lahm turning down Barc to stay at Bayern?

Hamsik turning down Juve to stay at Napoli?

What about Jamie Vardy? Turned down a pay rise at Arsenal to stay at Leicester?

I am sure there are plenty others! COme on people help us out here. All of those players could have earnt more if they moved!

Red Sandman.

{Ed025's Note - ighalo made a mistake going to china and so im not counting him sandman, but there are a few good examples there mate...especially totti, but the lack of genuine candidates actually validates my original assumption i feel..


12.) 11 Feb 2020 21:59:27
To be fair 0025 I only managed a list of less than 10 and it took me a good while to pull it together. You on the other hand could rattle off about 100 names of players who chased the money so I think your point very much stands true.

Do you think a salary cap is the way to go or are we now too far gone?

Red Sandman.

{Ed025's Note - i think there is no turning back on this one sandman, agents have all the say now mate and im afraid we are stuck with it..


13.) 12 Feb 2020 07:34:59
Red Sandman, thanks for the support.

Ed025, I have to concede this one to you. I still think there are some players in the modern game who are not motivated exclusively or primarily by money but you are probably right that for the majority the money comes first, second and last.

{Ed025's Note - it really does im afraid mate..


14.) 12 Feb 2020 12:51:24
Somebody promised me a giant pay packet and I'd be on the first plane. It doesn't make a player evil to leave for pastures new when big money is on the table. This is why it's important players like our front three, VVD, Alisson etc. Understand that we can fight for titles on multiple fronts and pay them competitively with the other billionaires. Otherwise why wouldn't they leave? Who could truly blame them? We whine about it as fans but know in our hearts we would likely do the same. Footballers don't last for ever and are only in their prime a small portion of that time. You have to get what you can. Loyalty is fine in theory, and I can imagine none of our highest earners are angling for the exit door just yet, but if someone for ex. Barcelona says we are going to pay you what Messi makes and groom you to be his replacement how is he supposed to turn that down?

{Ed025's Note - that depends on how much money you have..or want..or need amerigo, i will have the run of the mill player in a mid table side who is being courted by a big fish and doubling his wages mate, but these so called superstars like neymar who jump ship for mega bucks make me sick...how much money do they need?, its greed, downright avarice and in these days of austerity, foodbanks and people on zero hours contracts...they should be ashamed of themselves..


 

 

 

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16 Nov 2020 18:58:34
This might be a bit selfish but I feel it's time for hendo to retire from international football after euros, he puts his body on the line that much that he needs the time to recover for us .


1.) 16 Nov 2020 21:40:58
I don't see him retiring from England before the next World Cup.


2.) 17 Nov 2020 09:12:40
Think he'll want to go to this world cup and that'll be it for him.


3.) 17 Nov 2020 10:09:55
Is it the euros or world cup next.

{Ed002's Note - The Euros 2020).


 

 

12 Nov 2020 12:26:54
Daryl Janmat, garay, short term contract til end of season? Could help a lot .

{Ed002's Note - Taking on a right back to play out of position would be a good kick in the gonads for all of the youngsters at Liverpool. Easy to see why Liverpool has a "club developed" problem.}


1.) 12 Nov 2020 13:14:48
No I’d rather Klopp played than him.


2.) 12 Nov 2020 13:37:11
Billy K, Phillips, matip, Williams, fabinho to get us to January then we must buy imo

Don't like these free agents.


3.) 13 Nov 2020 13:22:53
Free agents are free agents for a reason. And Janmaat? Now, that was funny.


 

 

12 Nov 2020 12:18:07
James tarkowski in January? First thing about him he is robust and should be able to play 5 to 10 games in a row also knows the english league inside out no settling in needed a defender who likes to defend no messing about .


1.) 12 Nov 2020 13:19:50
The only English CB I’d take is Coady. But I think we need to be aiming a little higher than this in quality. Seen as we’ve lost arguably the most successful CB pairing the clubs seen for 3 decades.


2.) 12 Nov 2020 13:53:15
So aim high and then what, relegate them to the bench when VVD and Gomez are back? We have enough cover once Fabinho is back to see us through. I don't think the club even have the funds to spend big on a CB.


3.) 13 Nov 2020 13:24:18
Spot on, stuie_boy. Coady would cost a fortune and he plays in a back 3 so not sure if he can play in a back 4 where you will be exposed one v one in a Klopp system. Tarkowski? Cost 40m and even WH walked away. Looks good in a defensive system so no thanks. We have youngsters who are ready to come in and contribute so why go pay for CB's who aren't even good enuff to replace the ones we have lost in JG and VVD?


 

 

09 Nov 2020 20:22:10
Is anyone onto the mane - salah bitchery, is it really healthy? it honestly seems like since the incident vs Burnley last season the harmony between them 2 seems icy, robbo and trent have a healthy rivalry but are united as one but the other 2 I can't say the same .


1.) 09 Nov 2020 20:39:09
As usual, you are talking complete rubbish. Have you seen any evidence to back this up? So they are not best friends, who cares?


2.) 09 Nov 2020 20:45:00
They can bicker as much as they want mate as long as they keep setting each other up. How many assists and chances have they created for each other so far this season? Not everyone is each other’s cup of tea and might not get on but as long as they’ve got a working relationship then I’m fine that they aren’t besties. After all the Burnley game was over a year ago and we’ve been pretty decent since then.


3.) 09 Nov 2020 21:01:12
They aren't best of mates when it comes on to the pitch but they don't need to be. Its a rivalry that won't go away but I don't mind. I'm sure off the pitch we would know if it was a serious issue.


4.) 09 Nov 2020 22:04:17
Just an opinion big nuts .


5.) 09 Nov 2020 22:36:01
I suppose I would rather see them celebrating than bickering after a penalty scored at the Etihad, shoot me for doing so .


6.) 10 Nov 2020 07:07:03
Players bicker all the time in football. Have a look at players going off at HT and you will see team mates moaning all the time why they didn't receive a pass or make a run. Its nothing new.
They might not be best buddies, but you can't have everyone as your BBF. As long as there is respect there then that is far more important and they also work for the team.


7.) 10 Nov 2020 08:04:39
Were they bickering? I missed that. Tbf salah must be annoying, as he very rarely passes but luckily 4 us and him he scores a fair bit!


8.) 10 Nov 2020 10:55:04
Yeah I agree Dom. I can totally understand mane getting a bit pissed as he will pass if it's the better option, doing what's best for the team. Salah always looks to score himself. I had a coach as a kid who told me if I had a chance I should go for it. In fact every coach I played for said the same thing. Pretty sure klopp is happy for him to shoot if he has the chance.

I don't think salah is as good a finisher as he thinks he is though. The amount of shots he scuffs is mad. And he always stands over the ball at freekicks, lol.


9.) 10 Nov 2020 11:15:14
Robbie mental how over the last few days you have been critical of Thiago (made of glass), Jota’s record and now Salah of His finishing ability. Yet you bawl your eyes out if anyone criticises Bobby and you call them Utd fans 🤦🏻‍♂️.


10.) 10 Nov 2020 12:12:16
You're making massive assumptions about what they were saying to each other.

Ironically enough, in the face of more recent commentary about Salah and Mane not liking each other, and Salah "not passing to Mane", both of them were guilty several times in the last two games of not being selfish enough. Looked for passes, including to each other, instead of pulling the trigger.


11.) 10 Nov 2020 12:07:51
Jk23, I haven't once said anything derogatory about thiago, so maybe you need to re think that. Fantastic player. I must ve been someone else mate. I haven't said anything bad about jota (in fact I have repeatedly said he is CLASS! ) I did say he looked a bit out of his depth at city, but it's his first big big match for us as a starter so it's to be expected.

And salah, I love the guy. Amazing no11. But come on man, he isn't the world's greatest finisher. He's probably one of the worlds best at getting in goal scoring positions with his runs, dribbling and movement but he definitely scuffs a lot of shots!

Jk, I don't want to fall out with you fella. I get a bit grumpy when you knock firmino. There is a time to be ruthless I'm football, but there is also a time to be loyal. I think our attitude towards Bobby should fall into the latter. Peace man x.


12.) 10 Nov 2020 12:12:52
And BTW. Its not the criticising of our star players that annoys me jk23, its the blasé way you call out for our no9 to be dropped. And you haven't said it once, you come on everyday with made up reasons to drop him, its like a campaign mate. And if you're going to do that, then I will defend him. Because I love this team and I realise how important Firmino is and has been to the way we play.

I am well aware that he is not at the top of his game at the moment. But I don't think dropping the guy is the answer.


13.) 10 Nov 2020 12:35:10
Robbie click on my profile mate and you can read all my comments on this site. Please point out where I am coming on here every day and saying Bobby should be dropped because you have lost me. I support Bobby just as much as i do the other players and I know what he offers the team. Me saying He is off form doesn’t make me less of a supporter but I’m not the only one to notice. Quite a few fans have brought it up and Klopp has substituted him in the last 5 consecutive league games.


14.) 10 Nov 2020 13:01:57
50% of your comments on the live chat are slating Firmino. Along with klopp123. It's the reason I've stopped going on there. I came on in the atalanta game and you guys were at it again. So I left.

Jk23, you're making stuff up mate. Saying I've been slating thiago and jota, when I've done nothing of the sort. (anyone is welcome to check my profile to see jk23 is chatting rubbish here) I can't be bothered to look on your profile, I know you've been calling for Bobby to be dropped. Not once, not twice. I've seen posts that say things like "I really like Bobby, but" "Bobby's been great for us, but" (I'm paraphrasing there BTW)


15.) 10 Nov 2020 13:16:40
He is leggy. He runs his heart out, and we have a great forward on jota, so it's no surprise klopp is subbing him. To make sure he's availa for the next game. The medical staff are telling klopp who can play and how many minutes.


16.) 10 Nov 2020 13:37:41
I’ll take Mark Twain’s advice on this one and take my leave from this.


17.) 10 Nov 2020 14:52:54
Could you imagine this site along with other if we all agreed with everything said then there would be no need for any site that is what makes football as popular as it is opinions is what counts just like law 5 in the opinion of the referee keep up with the comments makes good reading.

{Ed025's Note - im with you hunter mate..


18.) 10 Nov 2020 16:13:54
True Hunter. I apologise jk23. There is legitimate cause to be concerned with Bobby's form.
My opinion is, we play him. Probably our best footballer. Again, sorry to get so intense jk. You're a good poster.


19.) 10 Nov 2020 16:38:07
Listen everyone goes through a bad patch at one time or another you either work through it or step back and recharge the batterys a change is as good as a rest.


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21.) 10 Nov 2020 19:03:26
Hailstones, I don't think anyone saw this as that big of an issue well, until you brought it up just now hence, it seems the issue is only an issue for the few and not for many others.


22.) 11 Nov 2020 01:30:00
And you don't get to tell lies about me and then try to walk off as the bigger man.


23.) 11 Nov 2020 09:01:25
Robbie get a grip mate. I didn’t come back on the site last night as it’s my daughter’s 17th bday today so we went out for a family meal. Is that ok with you? I also apologise if you thought I was personally having a go at you but it’s all opinions and debate on here. What’s the point in coming in if people aren’t allowed their own thoughts.
I’ve not lied about anything. Check your comments back to last Fri 6 Nov where you mention Thiago made of glass and Jota’s stats (championship winner) compared Bobby. This is starting to get a little school yard now and the fact you posted like 3 comments after all it was done and dusted tells me I should probably refrain from replying to you in the future.
I don’t mean to cause any harm or offence to you or upset you. You are a good poster also and I can see you’re an extremely passionate fan. I wish you all the best take care and stay healthy.

{Ed002's Note - This thread is going to end here.}


24.) 11 Nov 2020 09:52:37
Robbie get a grip mate. I didn’t come back on the site last night as it’s my daughter’s 17th bday today so we went out for a family meal. Is that ok with you? I also apologise if you thought I was personally having a go at you but it’s all opinions and debate on here. What’s the point in coming in if people aren’t allowed their own thoughts.
I’ve not lied about anything. Check your comments back to last Fri 6 Nov where you mention Thiago made of glass and Jota’s stats (championship winner) compared Bobby. This is starting to get a little school yard now and the fact you posted like 3 comments after all it was done and dusted tells me I should probably refrain from replying to you in the future.
I don’t mean to cause any harm or offence to you or upset you. You are a good poster also and I can see you’re an extremely passionate fan. I wish you all the best take care and stay healthy.


 

 

04 Nov 2020 23:09:33
I think having jota up front over bobby brings a lot of positives and also a lot of pressure of salah and manes shoulders. As seen yesterday jota plays on the shoulders of defenders is clever with movement and has a goalscoring mentality whilst also pressing the defence just as effective as firmino . This means we have 3 lethal attackers up front that need to be occupied where as the best part of 6 to 8 months we have looked like a team with a central midfielder up front rather than a striker . Its certainly not the end of bobby but jota needs to start especially against man city .


1.) 04 Nov 2020 23:34:18
Joa has pace. I think that's the difference. I cannot believe people writing Firmino off though, it's crazy. Bobby is a world class player. Remember his goal in the cwc, the goal against psg as a sub.

What we now have is a real viable other option. I love origi but he isn't perfect for a klopp cf hence getting played on the wing. With jota we have someone who can cover ANY of the front 3. So If mane needs a rest, jota can come on and do a job, same with the other two. Instead of everyone reacting to jotas hot form by talking about Firmino, let's just admire the fact that we have four genuinely top forwards now. Perfect.

I think Firmino will start against city. But I expect jota will feature. In fact klopp has pretty much said Bobby will start.

Klopp was asked what makes Liverpool so special? Ad he replied Bobby firmino.


2.) 05 Nov 2020 00:07:24
I don't think we can really assess Jota's pressing compared to Bobby. The conditions yesterday in terms of the oppositions tactics and their form played right into our hands. glad we took full advantage.


3.) 05 Nov 2020 05:30:42
Just out of interest, if a Real Madrid or such like offered say £60m for Firmino would you sell?
Personally, yes. And buy another top central defender.


4.) 05 Nov 2020 07:55:31
Yes juicer who is to say bobby might need or want a fresh challenge, he has grafted for us and given everything and we all love him no matter what, I certainly ain't writing him off but I see clear evidence he is regressing instead of progressing and for me he needs to come out the first 11 to gain his hunger back .


5.) 05 Nov 2020 08:27:34
Ed1 do you think Jota plays against city? Klopp is very loyal and I have a feeling Bobby will play. Love Bobby but I feel Jota and the form he is in will be an advantage against a weak defence. Would love your thoughts?


6.) 05 Nov 2020 09:25:41
I like firmino, I've questioned him in the last but he's won me over. Personally I'd go with jota because he's the one in form and it's be silly not to try and take advantage of that. If it's not working you can always bring firmino on.


7.) 05 Nov 2020 09:53:02
Jota's movement could be essential against city and that movement could free up Salah an mane to seek an destroy, I hope thiago is fit!


8.) 05 Nov 2020 11:50:26
Comparing Jota to Bobbie, is not even worth the debate cos Bobbie is quick but not as pacey as Jota while Jota for now, cannot do all the things Bobbie can hence, different players with different skill sets hence, the comparison is futile, IMO.


 

 

 

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