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29 Aug 2021 16:46:37
I have been moaning about a different option up front and that guy awoniyi has scored again today for Berlin, I would rather of kept him for a different option up front than origi who is done .
That guy was a unit strong quick an looks to be scoring bummer!

1.) 29 Aug 2021 17:16:08
Think there was an issue with a work permit for him.

2.) 29 Aug 2021 19:17:26
Hindsight gives you 20-20 vision after a couple of games.

3.) 29 Aug 2021 23:51:02
Origi should have been moved on many seasons ago. He is a nice fella but they don't win you games when you need someone to come on and score!

4.) 30 Aug 2021 08:08:19
And how can the club force a player to move on Baz when he has refused to move? To see it from Origi's side - he gets on relatively well with everyone in the team and thinks of Liverpool as home but the only bids that came in for him were from clubs and places he did not want to go to. It is well documented from June 2020.

5.) 30 Aug 2021 08:10:58
Also, Minamino was meant to be the person that could come on and score but for various reasons that did not work out as yet.

6.) 30 Aug 2021 12:28:53
So Awoniyi was supposed to be our saviour now in hindsight, as usual. The kid never played a single game for us, not even in the reserves YET he was supposed to be kept cos he scored a goal for a bottom feeder club in Germany. Yep, I think we now have Michael Edwards’ replacement right here on this forum. Brilliant.



23 Aug 2021 12:58:52
If indeed we are looking to buy an attacker why are we not looking at joaqin correa he is available can play anywhere along the front line, whilst being tall he is quick holds the ball up and likes to take defenders on, I think if he comes to prem he will thrive in the same way Raul jiminez has as they are similar .

{Ed025's Note - he is bound for either Athletico, Spurs or Everton mate..

1.) 23 Aug 2021 15:27:43
He has only managed 30 goals in 117 games in a good Lazio team in a poor division outside maybe 3 clubs so I wouldn't want to gamble on a player of those returns to be honest. He may come good but I wouldn't take the risk hard pass.



03 May 2021 20:32:06
Ello eds, is andre silva someone we would be looking at, very impressive goal rate in Germany also he is jotas brother which would help if we wanted him .

1.) 03 May 2021 21:18:32
That’s not his brother.

2.) 03 May 2021 22:21:15
Diego Jota does have a brother named Andre Silva, but not the striker you are thinking about. Coincidence that they share the name and both are Portuguese.

3.) 03 May 2021 22:38:33
Sorry guys I didn't realise that 😅, I was thinking we had 2 feet in the door to signing him then .

4.) 04 May 2021 09:38:32
Silva looks to be available for a decent price but I would worry a little looking at his record in Italy and Spain.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no interest.}



30 Jan 2021 18:21:27
Apparently we have bid 45million euro for demiral, surely we could get 3 centre backs for that .

1.) 30 Jan 2021 18:34:59
Maybe we are paying over a few years like Jota? More dept on the club though, worry’s me when we are a year or so away from needing a rebuild.

2.) 30 Jan 2021 18:38:32
I call BS. €45m for a defender who has barely played any football in the last two years and spends most of his time warming the bench at Juve?

3.) 30 Jan 2021 18:40:47
Isn't he an injury-prone player? I don't know my Italian football, just scanned through the socials.

4.) 30 Jan 2021 18:44:35
Which 3?

5.) 30 Jan 2021 18:49:22
Fans worry way too much about clubs finances these days. were fans not accountants!

6.) 30 Jan 2021 18:50:40
Nah no way. Ed002 said we were offered him a few weeks back so probably old news from then. We ain’t got 45quid let alone 45M.

7.) 30 Jan 2021 19:05:15
Botman 18 million, kabak 18 million, and change for a loan or a player.

8.) 30 Jan 2021 19:05:57
Botman might even be cheaper than 18 million.

9.) 30 Jan 2021 19:22:02
I’ll be honest Hailstones, the fact that Matips injury doesn’t sound as bad as Klopp made out I can’t see is signing anyone either on loan or permanent mate. Plenty of rumours we must of been linked to 6 different names today and all dismissed on here. All fiction I would think.

10.) 30 Jan 2021 19:33:09
I'm going for Romain Saiss from Wolves. Left out of last squad and only 6 months left on contract so could be a realistic option. I like him as well. Play in defence or midfield. Shrewd signing I'd say.

11.) 30 Jan 2021 19:50:42
Daretodream Matip is a flake way to unreliable we can’t be counting on him!

12.) 30 Jan 2021 20:10:41
Dare to dream. I think we have to really. Matip is good but plays one game and injured. We can't risk it.

13.) 30 Jan 2021 20:30:32
Yes saiss would be nice and another.

14.) 30 Jan 2021 22:40:56
well lately it's matip plays only one good HALF before injury.



18 Jan 2021 12:26:03
Any one expecting jota to just pop back in and save the day needs to think that he is just coming back from a knee injury and might take time to get up too speed.

1.) 18 Jan 2021 12:58:36
Will still be better than bobby haha.
He could also come back to scoring form in his first game back.

2.) 18 Jan 2021 15:17:26
He will not be back until the second week of February.

3.) 18 Jan 2021 17:59:45
Magico at least Bobby was getting in the positions to shoot, the other two were just as wasteful, but Bobby was trying to make things happen.

4.) 19 Jan 2021 07:53:18
Not doubting Bobby's positional play. but he shooting is dreadful.

5.) 19 Jan 2021 07:55:12
Agree mane and salah were awful though.
Try salah through middle and push bobby or ox to right forward?

6.) 19 Jan 2021 09:01:00
Bobby seems worse at them moment because he has to drop so deep I can’t see why Klopp won’t just play the young lads at the back with fab in front of them to ease the pressure and hendo and Thiago to dictate the play from midfield and feed Bobby salah and mane giving them the extra yard back.

7.) 19 Jan 2021 09:02:24
Has anyone noticed that the positioning is no way near as fluid as before. It used to seem like the forwards all swapped round and popped up in each others position. I think against Man U I saw salah and mane switch once, salah was soo wide on the right all game. Maybe it is just a confidence thing and they are just trying to keep it simple to get back into form.

8.) 21 Jan 2021 00:35:20
We are dropping too deep too early. You could see it against Utd which creates holes all throughout the team which makes it easier to get through us as you can’t press when there’s too much space. The distances to run are too much for anyone.
We are then winning the ball back in our own half and so starting an attack from there.
VVD and Gomez would hold the half way line for as long as they could which then risks leaving too much space in behind but it also compresses the play into the oppositions half meaning the press can be more effective and we win the ball higher.
With Fabs, Hendo and Gini in midfield they are all good ball winners so it was highly effective. It also meant that the FBs starting position was much higher allowing them to get forward more without killing themselves.
Fabs and Hendo at CB don’t have the confidence or pace to hold that line so we get stretched and we don’t have the ball winners in midfield either.
Klopp will see this but I’m not sure what we can do about it with the personnel we have available.




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05 Dec 2021 21:29:17
When was the last time in our history we had too amazing left backs with a specific attribute, they are both bonkers and feirce competitors just for the shirt alone never mind beating the opposition . Loved tsimikas reaction at the winner it shows he is with the squad and its priceless.

1.) 05 Dec 2021 21:36:48
I always liked aurelio and dossena.

2.) 05 Dec 2021 22:37:03
Aurelio if it wasn't for injuries could of been one of our very best left backs ever .



04 Dec 2021 20:35:47
Ànd there's me thinking we need signings, if we start winning ugly that's when u know we got the bit between our teeth .



01 Nov 2021 12:03:10
I am excited too see Tyler morton get more chances, seems to have excellent range of passing, combative with confidence in himself . Also a player that could be given a chance is Elijah dixon bonner he is improving and is in good form, our midfield is being stretched but there is nothing better than unearthing gems from our youth set up.

1.) 01 Nov 2021 12:15:20
Tyler Morton is going to be class.

2.) 01 Nov 2021 12:53:44
Don’t be surprised if Moreton gets game time vs AM if we are still missing Fab and Thiago.

3.) 01 Nov 2021 14:20:05
Got that same feeling about Morton that I first had with Harvey. Think the lad has something about him that makes me think he could be thrown in this season and do well.

4.) 01 Nov 2021 14:46:01
I'd the same thought about Dixon-bonner, he's been in and around the 1st team a lot recently so it wouldn't surprise me at all to see him make an appearance at some point, he's a bit older than Morton but that just means abit more developed physically.

I think we're missing some stability in CM, we don't really play with AMs so having a player in the midfield to play alongside Fab and Hendo who can just tick things over whilst the FBs and front 3 attack brings more balance to the team, maybe one of the young lads can do a job whilst we're waiting for Thiago.



30 Oct 2021 18:12:53
For me Curtis jones has far too much potential attacking than playing as a deep controlling midfielder, although he is needed to help out there he should be doing what he does best running at defences, shooting and assisting. We are not seeing the full potential of his skill set.

1.) 30 Oct 2021 18:33:05
Hailstones if Jones is to flourish under the Klopp system then, he needs to do whatever it takes to master it just like everybody else did before him. Why should he get a free pass? All the other mid’s are sacrificing part of their strengths to fit what Klopp requires of them ( See Gini and Elliott) so why should Jones be any diff? . Sorry, I disagree with your premise.

2.) 30 Oct 2021 19:02:42
He also needs to move the ball quicker. But he's 20 years of age and still learning.

3.) 30 Oct 2021 19:11:40
Thats fine mate after all I am no expert an its only an opinion, my thing is he can offer a lot closer to the goal shooting from range, committing players and causing problems . Its testament too how good he is that he has the ability to play both roles .
For England youth he plays wide left and does that job very well I am no Jurgen klopp but I would like too see him attacking more .

4.) 30 Oct 2021 19:27:10
Hailstones, I actually agree with you that Jones would not be a bad shout out wide in the left however, he drifts out there when ever he has played on the left side of CM. He is a kid and still learning the game so not too worried about him. You don’t get to be a more than viable option for a Jurgen Klopp team if you don’t have a thing or two about you. Klopp does not give out flowers for free.

5.) 30 Oct 2021 19:31:37
Let’s face it, he’s not ready to be anywhere near that first 11 but how can we sit here and criticise Jones. When all these players are out injured Yet Again. I swear they need to grow some Nuts some of them. We used to slate Gini but least he was available.

6.) 30 Oct 2021 19:53:13
We really should have spent some money and replaced Gini. It’s likely to be the difference between being champions and also rans.

7.) 30 Oct 2021 20:06:25
Nah guys this is not criticism at all not one bit, it's an opinion on what I have seen, I agree with L8 he shouldn't be near 1st team but coming off bench and integrating into 1st team . It all boils down to bad decisions in last transfer window we needed to replace wijnaldum with real quality (bissouma) or the likes and we never .

8.) 30 Oct 2021 20:14:49
Hailstones always enjoy reading your posts mate but I’d disagree with you on this one. For me Jones was poor today and he’s come into a system that has won us a league and CL. Gini, Kieta and Thiago have had to vary their game to Klopp so Jones will have to conform otherwise his future might be away from the club as I can’t see Klopp changing the system for him.

Like I said Jones was poor today but he has had some good games in a midfield 3 for us so he’s proven he can do it. The next step for him now is to do it consistently.

9.) 30 Oct 2021 20:48:31
There were a lot of players who didn’t perform today. The whole midfield were lacking. Firmino was shocking.

10.) 30 Oct 2021 21:08:22
I don’t think there’s anything special about Jones. Elliott is the real deal. Jones certainly isn’t a ‘Klopp midfielder” I’d much rather Gallagher that Chelsea have out on loan.

11.) 30 Oct 2021 21:19:50
I think Bobby finished with the highest pass percentage. For any Brighton player 🤣.

12.) 30 Oct 2021 22:32:18
Bobby was magic against Man U but had a shocker today. For whatever reason 2 good games back to back is sadly beyond him. That finish he attempted can't be put into words.

{Ed0666's Note - you never have an off day mark? No he’s not the vintage Bobby but it’s all we have at the moment. I maintain this is Bobby’s last season

13.) 30 Oct 2021 22:40:43
Well, all those who slated Wijnaldum now know what he used to do. Those gaps in midfield that Brighton were running through at will were the ones Gini used to close. 9 goals conceded against City, Brentford, Atletico and Brighton showed the frailties of a team lacking a player like Wijnaldum, who closed passing lanes and kept possession while his teammates got back into shape. The front players have been on fire, but they can’t be expected to outscore the opponents every game. The absence of Fabinho didn’t help, but Wijnaldum was so underrated.

14.) 30 Oct 2021 23:02:51
I have many off days. But I can put 2 good days together. I agree it should be his last season.

15.) 30 Oct 2021 23:05:13
Redmersey, and what did Gini used to do, exactly? You mean the same Gini that can barely get a game at PSG? Nah, bro don’t try to rewrite history to make you sound like the club was wrong in letting him go. If you think having him would have stopped us conceding goals vs these teams then I can’t help you. Didn’t know he played FB, CB and midfield all in one during a game while he was here.

Gini wouldn’t have done anything diff cos he too was guilty if not tracking his man and letting players run off him, which was rampant near all game long. Gini can’t even play the Fan role anyway so not sure am why you brought him up.

Gini is gone so let it go cos after all when we were pumping teams just a week ago, Gini’s name was never mentioned here BUT suddenly cos we didn’t win a game, hindsight is now being used as some kind of convenient mode to make people sound smart after the fact.

16.) 30 Oct 2021 23:23:56
A draw against Brighton and it's hunt the scapegoat time.
It happens, we move on.

17.) 31 Oct 2021 07:14:25
Flash, it’s the way it is. Just last week we were kings of the world and just cos we drew vs Brighton, it’s cos we didn’t keep or replace Gini and/ or it’s cos FSG did not sign “insert random player here”. It will never end. I pity the Ed’s, really.

18.) 31 Oct 2021 09:10:48
Can you imagine the slagging some of the younger players will get WHEN we finally lose a game?
The longer we go unbeaten, the more hysterical the outcry will be when it finally happens.
It really is comical stuff.

19.) 31 Oct 2021 11:18:12
I’d rather have a loss and a win than 2 draws. Unbeaten doesn’t mean anything. Chelsea aren’t unbeaten and they’re ahead of us.

20.) 01 Nov 2021 12:42:45
Zagrebs ouder, then give them the title already since that is the way the table we stay till the end of the season.

21.) 01 Nov 2021 12:43:18
Olired, you're a wool who has never been to a game that's clear from your replies, how do I know? Because of the "owners and club can do no wrong" rhetoric you continually use, it's really really predictable and very very boring,



27 Oct 2021 22:51:48
I have heard links with kalvin phillips which i like, i see bissouma played tonight and if he can prove himself innocent of recent claims would we prefer bissouma or phillips?

1.) 27 Oct 2021 23:10:47
Bissouma all day long, providing he is innocent of course.

2.) 27 Oct 2021 23:14:02
I’d prefer Jones, Elliot and perhaps Morton.

3.) 27 Oct 2021 23:28:57
If bissouma is back playing I'm pretty certain he's innocent as the club wouldn't take that sort of risk.

4.) 28 Oct 2021 00:41:57
I would be ok with either to be fair. Maybe Phillips if we have an HG issue?

long term I really like the look of Morton.

5.) 28 Oct 2021 00:44:27
I like them youngsters of ours also, but too compliment them we need a klopp type midfielder too let them express themselves and considering jones and elliot best attributes are attacking a Phillips or bissouma behind them along with other midfielders . Morton I like and think he would do a boss job in the first 11 alongside to senior players.
The reason I mentioned Phillips an bissouma is I worry about all our midfielders being injury prone there record is shaky.

6.) 28 Oct 2021 02:02:46
Morton, Elliot and Jones are Klopp type midfielders though.

I am struggling to find a part of our midfield that has proved consistently weak so far this season. We have 8 or 9 players who have served us well this season and I’m struggling to understand why we need to spend massive amounts of money.

We have Henderson, Fabs, Thiago, Elliot, Jones Keita, Milner, Ox and Morton which is 9 established and emerging midfielders. I’m not against buying players but players that we need, not because we just want the thrill of buying a player.

7.) 28 Oct 2021 06:47:09
I'm sorry but to me it looks as if the OX has lost that yard of pace there is no explosive ness to his game which comes after a period of serious injury.

8.) 28 Oct 2021 07:42:20
Morton is not ready.

9.) 28 Oct 2021 08:32:31
Henderson is the lynchpin of the midfield though, I think it would seriously hurt us if he were to be out for a period of time.
Wijnaldum did deputise very well for Henderson, certainly in terms of bringing that energy.
Saying that, I can certainly see in hindsight now that Elliott and Jones would have been enough. Elliott, in particular, impressed me so much and it’s a real shame that he is lost to us at the moment.
I don’t like to rely on a youngster like Elliott but he was looking like he’d have become a regular part of the team.
Morton looks promising but possibly needs a while to physically develop more.
I suppose it’d be good to review where we are come January.

10.) 28 Oct 2021 09:10:22
Bissouma all day over Phillips. I'll take Elliott and Jones over him too cos they look brilliant in our system. Not sure if Phillips fits wh.

11.) 28 Oct 2021 09:11:25
Sent too quickly. On Phillips, not sure if he fits what we do cos he plays the DM role at Leeds and he is not better than Hendo and light years behind Fab. I'll pass, thank you.

12.) 28 Oct 2021 09:41:51
Morton is years off a regular first team role, if ever. He’s a kid so no pressure, no expectation. Looks good though, so far.

As someone said, my only concern is losing hendo or fabs for a significant period. We have several busy players, the harassers and chaos demons, but the difference with the other two is the controlling factor they give. You could argue that Thiago and Hendo are interchangeable in roles, because they have the same range of passing and tempo control, but Fabinho has often been the game changer and who I’d be most wary of losing. Then again, these last few games without him haven’t been bad have they?

I guess what I’m trying to say is we’re pretty well off in the position this year. Naby has really stepped up in the main and barring injury for Harvey there was our new signing. We could have spent big on a midfielder and have had the same thing happen to them. I don’t see the need to splash out on just in cases. Nor do I want to spend out on someone in fabs position who is good enough but will only play a handful of times because when he’s fit, fabinho plays. There’s no need to weaken the team to keep players happy.

13.) 28 Oct 2021 09:54:44
Bissouma over Calvin Phillips. Better defensively, more mobile, quicker, better tackler.

14.) 28 Oct 2021 10:31:34
Bissouma outa the 2 for me too, but agree with the peoeple above about not buying just for the sake of it.

15.) 28 Oct 2021 13:35:17
Surely they are two completely different players? Bissouma would be great in our system I think, Phillips I haven't seen much of but if we were looking for a fabinho replacement he might work.

16.) 28 Oct 2021 15:52:23
Ox still looks pacey and dynamic to me but completely rusty with no touch on his passing and no end product.

17.) 28 Oct 2021 15:35:08
Bissouma to be seems like a bit of a lad and I'm just wary of that sort of attitude coming into our squad. I may be totally wrong and I hope I am but we have such a close unit and I don't want that to change.

18.) 28 Oct 2021 18:51:51
I rate Phillips very much. I wouldn't be too annoyed if he ended up at Anfield instead of Bissouma. I think he is a very talented footballer.

19.) 28 Oct 2021 19:52:19
Oh dear if Phillips turns up at Anfield he has to take a leaf out of elliotts book and sort his hair out 🤦‍♂️ Truly embarrassing.




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31 Oct 2021 22:09:48
When he first started for us I thought blimey this is a gamble, but how stupid was I taking into account what he done for Blackburn last season amongst men . Hope he gets back to what he loves and his progression will be joyful to watch.



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31 Oct 2021 18:38:13
No one is saying buy for the sake of it, we have hardly bought anyone since 2019, flash if we had midfielders that were not getting injured i would be like sound we can cope, but u have too agree all our midfielders not most all are injury prone way too much hendo included fab not so much, its shxt preparation to win a league or champions league.



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31 Oct 2021 16:35:02
OK Ed I hope they are given the chance morton will definitely get his opportunities with that midfield, but the likes of tsimikas, minamino, origi even nat Phillips need to be trusted to keep others on their toes .



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31 Oct 2021 14:46:23
You are missing my point ed I am not after shiny new toys, if a house needs repairs minor or large it needs fixing so I can rent it out to my lodgers . Our house needs minor repairs but they are essential to win things . If we are happy being 2nd, 3rd or 4th sound let's crack on with our injury prone squad .

{Ed001's Note - yes and the point is that we have already got those repairs in the shape of Elliott, Morton etc in house that need the opportunity to play and people should stop being so impatient.}



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31 Oct 2021 13:24:09
Wow sorry ed maybe my comparison was daft excuse me but i am not a bury fan, but the club is very relaxed about adding quality players to improve us and as a top club we can't afford to hang around as proven since winning the league.

{Ed001's Note - it was as ludicrous as your obsession with buying shiny new toys.}




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05 Dec 2021 22:37:03
Aurelio if it wasn't for injuries could of been one of our very best left backs ever .



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18 Nov 2021 16:10:13
I like the look of frauendorf looks a real talent, training with 1st team also .



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02 Nov 2021 19:39:06
I have been here since aqualani .



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31 Oct 2021 00:07:40
The thing is guys ox and jones couldn't control the midfield against preston, so its not surprising we lost that battle today. Luckily we drawn today 10 more mins and we were beat .



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30 Oct 2021 22:08:16
If klopp wanted players and he was refused or hands tied he should ov walked too make a statement, I would actually rather he did that than having to perform miracles every season.