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12 Jan 2025 17:09:44
I definitely think salah is going to PSG they are the only club that can give him what he wants. A whopping salary and length of contract plus there owner is qatari, with that league being so easy he could play for 4 or 5 years. Paris also has a large population of various people from African countries Egypt Tunisia Morocco so he will be treated like a king, shame but I think he will be off.

hailstones

1.) 12 Jan 2025 17:26:08
I don't because PSG themselves said they weren't interested in him (in December) and said it was all newpaper talk.


2.) 12 Jan 2025 17:29:05
I think Salah's preference is to stay here, personally.


3.) 12 Jan 2025 18:28:16
I’d say that the chances of Salah going to PSG have diminished now they’re signing Kvara. He won’t go somewhere to play second fiddle.


4.) 12 Jan 2025 18:35:21
Ello salah i hope that is the case because i could only see them or the Saudis being able to sign him.


5.) 12 Jan 2025 18:49:47
Fans from Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria don't rate Salah that highly so your point is mute.


6.) 12 Jan 2025 18:49:58
I am with the club on Salah. Virgil’s contract more important, and Salah’s figures in 2nd half of past few seasons really not great at all - the club just can’t get us into a financial situation with someone in decline on £350k per week.

Mo is great, a legend - but when it comes to money, it has to be calculated on the next 12 months, not the past. With players on so much money, it’s crazy to put them on another monster contract as some kind of pension scheme. In my view, Mo is now superb creatively, but understandably no longer has the pace of turn to terrorise a defence, and can no longer press or get back to support our right back.

Which - as we saw with Ronaldo at United - can be a massive problem.


7.) 12 Jan 2025 20:10:48
Thing is though Monstersouness, if Mo goes, the purse strings aren’t being opened up for a suitable replacement. And even if they were, I’m fairly sure that Richard ‘Frank Spencer’ Hughes would find some way to make a cock up of it.

{Ed025's Note - do you like anything at all about Liverpool VV?, you dont half seem to moan a lot about them mate..


8.) 12 Jan 2025 20:43:05
I agree Ed025 totally depressing.


9.) 12 Jan 2025 20:50:31
I just do not understand understand those who think Salah shouldn’t be offered a new contract, even if it’s the biggest in our history. Right now he is the best player in his position in the world, arguably the best player in the world overall. Our thinking about players in their 30’s has to change. We all still think that 34 is the end for top flight performance, but it really isn’t . We think that because in the last 30 years that was pretty much true, but with medical/ fitness/ dietary science advances, these numbers are nudging ever upwards. Salah will still be a world class player in 2 years, have the conversation about diminishing returns then, if it’s even a thing then, but to lose him now would be madness. There is no player we can sign in his position that immediately improves us.


10.) 12 Jan 2025 21:06:11
Would the proposed 70% cap with new p&s rules be an issue in these contract talks or lack of? Last set of published accounts I read had us at 68%.


11.) 12 Jan 2025 21:37:01
Monster Salah had a bad end to last season because of his hamstring injury and the season before he played in a team with a midfield with no legs. Yet he still scored goals and you are assuming he is going to drop of a cliff this season. Salah is one of the very best professional footballers to play the game ever the way he looks after his self there is no telling how long he will stay at this level. Normally players let them selfs go over the summer then at a certain age when they come back there legs have just gone but Salah keeps his self super fit all year round.
All I can say about Salah is show him the money he wants to break records and he will if we keep him.


12.) 12 Jan 2025 22:18:23
I honestly understand what Victor gets out of supporting Liverpool, it causes him nothing but misery.


13.) 12 Jan 2025 22:29:10
It’s neither here or there. Mo may decline and not get the numbers he doing now. We could get a replacement who never reaches his numbers or gets injured and doesn’t play. The thing is mo IS hitting the numbers right now he’s worth a contract right now. What happens in the future is not now’s problem. A why are people worried about wages?


14.) 12 Jan 2025 23:15:56
I fully agree that Mo gets a contract, even if it means bringing in a youngster someone like bakayoko so that he could learn from Mo etc - I think what LFC will be looking at if there was any signs showing in the data prior to the legs falling of the midfields that year it did, no one could of predicted that from the end of the previous year - Fabinho seemed to drop of a cliff and Liverpool didn’t seem too see it coming - what is different about mo though is he is an absolute machine at the moment 1% of me things would that drop when he gets what he wants or is his goals this year I want to win everything! It’s just weird that he is saying nowhere near a contract so last year and we aren’t being linked with any RW?


15.) 13 Jan 2025 07:39:15
Mo does need a new contract his form has been exceptional this season and if he continues and we win some major trophies he should get the balon d'or which will only improve the LFC global brand.

Two year deal is a no brainer. Could even sell next in 2026 to saudi.


16.) 13 Jan 2025 08:14:16
john, Salah has a constant right now.
I'm not worried about his wages but those negotiating his contract will and should be.


17.) 13 Jan 2025 08:46:21
Have you been to Paris lately it’s a 3rd word hole so why on earth would Salah take his lovely family there to subject them to that mess?
Not a chance is he going there.


 

 

27 Dec 2024 23:55:43
Hearing trent has informed the club he wants to join Madrid, I personally think he is very replaceable and him leaving is no big thing, if it is the case he has told the club he wants to leave I would rather play Bradley or get a replacement and bed them in. The club is eternally bigger than any player.

hailstones

1.) 28 Dec 2024 04:59:19
There’s a league title to be won, you play your best players.


2.) 28 Dec 2024 07:14:38
Win the league, let him go. Shame he is leaving and doubly ashame he will go for free but a RB will always be replaceable.

We will need to change the way we play and add more creativity though as we will lose a lot.

Nevertheless if you told me this year we can win the league but lose Trent, Virgil and Salah I would have taken it and still would.


3.) 28 Dec 2024 08:33:11
If his “asks” for a new contract are beyond what the club are willing to offer then it is what it is

Don’t forget, he’s the best right back in the world (Jurgen told us do) and has won everything there is to win with us.

Onto pastures new for him

Just gutting we don’t get a fee for him.


4.) 28 Dec 2024 08:47:48
Wish they would announce what’s happening, doing my head in this waiting.


5.) 28 Dec 2024 08:51:17
Shame never going to be in the legend bracket like gerrard or carra. Put it like this if it was spanish lad and from madrid and was r. b for them i would doubt we could turn his head and if we could you would question their mentality. All your going to hear from him is i've achieved everything here and want a new adventure. No lad this is Lfc it means more than that and you want to play for madrid, that's how much it means. Get a replacement now and bench him put him in the stiffs.


6.) 28 Dec 2024 08:56:08
What are people's thoughts on Sugawara as a potential replacement for TAA? People talk about Frimpong but it doesn't seem prudent to spend that amount of money on a right-back if we are to give Bradley a genuine chance. Sugawara should be reasonably priced as Southampton are going down and Slot has worked with him before at AZ.


7.) 28 Dec 2024 09:10:12
I mean the poster is repeating what Marca has said who have never been very reliable as with most Spanish media fed by Madrid PR. Obviously this is all too put a wrench in our chains so to speak as well.


8.) 28 Dec 2024 09:29:26
Not sure on others thoughts but I don’t think Carra is in the Liverpool legend status.

{Ed025's Note - the spitting incident disbarred him from any status at all JK..


9.) 28 Dec 2024 09:36:32
I agree 1000% JK23.


10.) 28 Dec 2024 09:39:03
Carra is a legend . Won the champions league with us and is a local fella who wore his heart on his sleeve always put 110% . Played with cramp in that final . Yeah the spitting incident wasn’t nice but it does not take away what he done for us as a club and fanbase . Definitely not the best centre half but I would say he is a legend.

{Ed025's Note - i would say spitgate proved he was more a bell end than legend, but each to their own i suppose mate..


11.) 28 Dec 2024 10:02:47
I would say carra definitely a legend, committed his full career to us and always gave 100%. 2nd highest on appearances for club as well I think. Spitting incident was a very bad thing to do which he has acknowledged, but I don't think a split second decision in heat of the moment should ruin his legacy.

{Ed025's Note - thats where we differ Digger, im not a very contrite person mate, just like i believe the likes of Myra Hindley should have been hanged by the neck in the town square rather than be allowed to take a law degree in the hotel they called a prison, i suppose not everybody thinks like me but i can live with that..


12.) 28 Dec 2024 10:03:01
If it’s true that we only really began the negotiations in October, then that’s shameful to leave it so late. As for Trent himself, if he’s decided to cut and run, that’s him done in a Liverpool shirt, I’d never want to see him play in a Liverpool shirt again or be employed by the club in any capacity, it amounts to sticking two fingers up at the fans here. He’d be as bad as Owen or Macmanaman. I’m also of the view that if he’s told the club this, then his role needs to be diminished, so when Konate is back it’s between Gomez and Bradley for starter. Trent gets the bench and the stiffs.


13.) 28 Dec 2024 10:08:02
Trent's overall defending, forward runs, free kicks, and even general crossing to an extent is replaceable yes, what we will miss though are the switches in open play that open up a lot of room for Gakpo or Diaz to work with. It's a huge part of our game to spread the play quickly in recent months and I do think we will miss that. I can't think of another FB in world football that can ping a pass like he can. I imagine Slot will need to tweak the system to suit.


14.) 28 Dec 2024 10:20:11
Look at how teams defend against us when Trent is on the field, they’re scared to death he’s going to find a runner in behind so they don’t push up to us, his presence has such a massive effect on the game even before he even touches the ball, he will be a massive massive massive miss if he does leave, which I dearly hope is not the case.


15.) 28 Dec 2024 10:21:23
Anyone who thinks 'LFC have left the renewal too late and are incompetent' need to read the Joyce article from yesterday.
If Trent leaves it because he wants to, not because of bad business practices.
If there is one thing you can't accuse FSG of, it is bad busines practices (other than buying Andy Carroll, but I hold Kenny responsible for that donkey move) .

{Ed025's Note - he may leave because he wants to Vango but thats not the issue mate, the fact that you will get nothing for him certainly is, which by any degree is incompetence of the highest order..


16.) 28 Dec 2024 10:28:07
Trent is a great player but out of the 3 players who are out of contract he is defenitely the easier to replace. Trent has unique talents and range of passing but it comes at a price and a lot of times that is his defending. For me it’s clear Bradley is not ready and we go all out for Frimpong!


17.) 28 Dec 2024 10:24:54
Your more than entitled to your opinion ed25 and I certainly wouldn't argue with your mira hindlay analysis!
I played football with a guy who once spat at an opposition player, he always regretted it. He was excellent player and always targeted by opposition for heavy treatment, I can nevermind him reacted in anyway before but this day he did.
Same guy is a very quiet, well mannered fella but whatever was going on that day with him he flipped. U just never know what going on with somebody personal life on a particular day and somebody says r does the wrong thing to them.

{Ed025's Note - everybody makes mistakes Digger but i feel you should always be responsible for your actions mate, should someone capable of such a vile act be rewarded with a bumper Sky contract?, if you are in the public domain you have a certain responsibility imo and if you fall short of that then there should be a price to pay, the same could be said of that scum bag Gino D,Acampo who was a burglar that broke into Paul Young,s house and stole his guitars and even video,s of his late wife yet is a "celebrity" on prime time television, maybe im a dinosaur but thats just me..


18.) 28 Dec 2024 10:38:18
If Trent goes on a free he’ll sour his legacy as a Liverpool legacy and from my view will be held in the same regard as Owen.


19.) 28 Dec 2024 11:04:02
Dhfc and Digger, cheers for the replies gents.

If Carra is in your legend categories then who am I to argue.

I thought Carra was very very good for us but Legend for me is reserved for the best of the best.

Good to hear your thoughts though ?.


20.) 28 Dec 2024 11:57:57
January is going to be horrible isn’t it?

In what world is Jaime Carragher a legend, either as a footballer or as a human being?


21.) 28 Dec 2024 11:59:00
Carra totally dropped off the chart in my opinion with the spitting. Totally agree.


22.) 28 Dec 2024 12:00:47
I saw the article Vango (thanks to 12ft. io), I saw nothing that persuades me from my view that the optics of leaving beginning negotiations of extending the contracts of three important players to within the last 12 months of their contract is poor decision making and poor management from the owners in not dealing with it sooner.


23.) 28 Dec 2024 11:41:30
Wouldn’t if Ed025 would say that if Carra had stayed at Everton. Let’s face it, if he did stay at Everton he’d be your best player ever.

{Ed025's Note - he would still be a scum bag though WOW, and would never be in the top 10,000 of Everton players mate..


24.) 28 Dec 2024 11:44:15
On a lighter note ed25 what about the blues, going well recently? 3 v good results against the top teams, only downside is draws don't do much for any team position wise in league, at same time can't argue 3 excellent results.

{Ed025's Note - 3 good draws Digger but it only equates to 1 win when all is said and done mate, and we have thrown away a lot of points against the lesser sides sadly..


25.) 28 Dec 2024 12:52:03
Spanish newspaper says it so, so it must be gospel.

British journalist (NJ) with links to the club, says his preferred option is to stay at the club. Must be lies.

As for Carra, over 700 appearances and won everything apart from the big one. Yeah some rat behaviour off the field just like Gerrard, who you all lord over. So yeah club legend for me.

{Ed025's Note - cart horse who punched above his weight for me..


26.) 28 Dec 2024 13:02:32
He definitely looks and acts like one Ed25 hahau.


27.) 28 Dec 2024 13:12:19
With regards to carra being a legend i would base my hypothesis on his one club loyalty and not neccessarily his ability on the ball Gerrard is an exception though on the ball all he has on carra is england caps if you want to say he's more a legend what stat makes him more a legend? The one where he nearly signed for Chelsea Or when he left for Dollars? Any argument can be shot down.


28.) 28 Dec 2024 13:42:36
Carragher looked good from time to time because of the players around him. In my time watching and being a fan I would honestly struggle to make it into the top 250. On his best day he was above average.


29.) 28 Dec 2024 13:25:39
Everton fans think Ferguson is a legend despite being a jail bird. In fact Everton signed a convicted criminal. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

{Ed025's Note - im certainly not a fan of his Endo, but in the end hes not in the public eye making his fortune as a "celebrity"mate...thats the difference..


30.) 28 Dec 2024 15:07:34
The thing I hate most about celebrity culture is that it almost rewards bad behaviour as the media love a scandal and a comeback story after it. Look at Logan Paul youtuber. The disgusting things he did in Japan were the best thing that happened to his career. Most people over the age of 14 had never heard of him before he made the news and, after a couple of months of heat, he had more exposure and opportunities than ever before.

{Ed025's Note - you are right BR, its scandalous mate..


31.) 28 Dec 2024 15:28:17
I always wondered why carra was not shoehorned starter for End during internationals as he was always available and sureshot starter here.

But reality dawned on me when I took out the LFC tinted glass.

He was very average at best and hence was never picked b4 JT.

In fact successive managers kept ignoring him for Eng which says a lot about his quality.


32.) 28 Dec 2024 15:26:55
@Ed25, not sure I agree with the point you made earlier about TAA. He has a contract of finite length. If he does wish to leave and decides to see his current contract out then there’s nothing the club can really do. Perhaps they could have offered him a ‘Chelsea style’ 25 year contract for his last contract but I’m fairly certain he’d have said no.

If he does want to stay then it becomes an issue if what TAA wants against what the club think is an acceptable offer, mindful of the implications to the e siting wage structure within the club. If TAA is adamant about what he wants then it becomes a specific decision on the clubs part about a (possible) wage restructure against the loss of a transfer fee and that would be a conscious business decision. Either way, I’m not sure that the club is being incompetent.

{Ed025's Note - now im no expert on how contracts work WDW thats for sure, but logically i would think that with 2 years to go on any players contract an offer to renew or re negotiate should be made, if that offer is not taken up within say 6 months then the player should be automatically put on the transfer list, at least if an offer is made from a prospective club then the recompense is the transfer fee gained and used to procure a replacement, if he does sign a new contact then all well and good, now i might be being a bit Steve Naive of course but it seems a tragedy that someone of his ability who the club has invested a lot of time and money on can just walk out the door leaving the parent club with a massive hole that will cost in the region of £100M or so to fill, as i say just my take on things mate..


33.) 28 Dec 2024 15:50:34
Name one Everton player better than Carra?

Daft revisionism. He’s a far superior player to anyone who has played for Everton. He’s won a two major European trophies. Maybe Alan Ball was the last player who could compete, or Ratcliffe. That’s it.

{Ed025's Note - have you ever watched a game of football?, Carra was a below average exceedingly slow centre back who had a decent career on the back of being a local lad who had some good players around him, its hard for me to name any Everton player who was worse than him actually, Labone, Lyons, Watson piss all over him and i would go as far as to say Michael Keane would be above him, i will send you a postage stamp so you can write down all you know about football..


34.) 28 Dec 2024 16:08:37
Have you watched a game Ed? Basing his entire career on a post career incident which was him being harassed by a member of the public. Should he have retaliated, no. But speak to a local down the pub and you put it into perspective that someone was shouting abuse at him on the road I’d have filled him in.

As for a football, greatest ever player? No. But played his heart out and punched above his weight for over a decade and was always a solid 7/ 10. Ed stick to controlling this pop up laden dump with that crap you’re spouting.

{Ed025's Note - you have been watching with red tinted glasses on FK, he was pretty average for me but im obviously not an expert like you, spitting at a young girl will define him for me..a total and utter scum bag..


35.) 28 Dec 2024 16:18:35
Your "HEARING" meaning you read an article from marca hailstones that trent has decided to join madrid. Marca ??, while the day before chis Boscombe reported liverpool are very calm over the situation and believe the player still wants to stay and sign a new deal. I know which one I'd be more inclined to go with and it's certainly not that Spanish equivalent of the Daily mail. So if you hear any more from. the Spanish twats take it with a pinch of salt .


36.) 28 Dec 2024 16:35:48
Yes port red I am HEARING not this is 100 PERCENT GOSPEL. I am totally relaxed about the situation I feel trent is replaceable . If he wants to leave he owes it to the club and fans to grow a pair of swollocks and lay his cards on the table . Everyone though when klopp left we would fall down ( I never! ) and no one is even talking about klopp, same with trent you want to leave then go and we will move on.


37.) 28 Dec 2024 17:11:50
@Why0why, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are a youngster. Do a search on Kevin Ratcliffe. He was a tad better defender than Carragher.


38.) 28 Dec 2024 17:16:04
You mean someone reads articles from the web to you ?

{Ed001's Note - it is all coming from Madrid's mouthpiece, Marca.}


39.) 28 Dec 2024 18:01:25
Just my opinion on the two topics here but for what it's worth

1. At the end of the day, i cannot believe that Trent will leave. I believe he is tempted, but I just don't believe he will leave
2. Carra was a bang average player. If he wasn't a local lad, he would not be in the Liverpool legend discussion.


40.) 28 Dec 2024 18:53:07
For me if Trent is going to go, I’d potentially rather he forced a move in Jan so we get some money for him at least. Otherwise my fear would be as we get to the tail end of the season he takes less risks etc as his heart lays elsewhere and won’t want an injury. In fact if I was him, and wanted Madrid that’s what I’d do - ask Liverpool to push for a Jan sale so at least I could say I want some money for my boyhood club etc.


41.) 28 Dec 2024 20:37:22
Carragher punched way above his talent, gave everything for the club and was a big part of what we achieved. He was an absolute warrior for us and deserves absolute respect for the performances he put in for us.


42.) 28 Dec 2024 21:49:10
Carra isn’t a legend. He was a bit better of a player than the ed is making out, but not by much. He was a leader on the pitch and he was vocal and could organise a defence, his tacking was good, his general awareness and passing were average. He was passionate and that always matters to supporters, he always left it out there, all admirable qualities . However he spat at a kid, job done, he’s a dick. Your conduct is what defines you. Ultimately you are what you do. He spat at a kid. Tells you everything about the man he is.


43.) 28 Dec 2024 22:50:34
I was at the 86 final.
Ratcliffe was a decent player, that’s why I mentioned him.
If Carra stayed a blue he’d be an absolute legend for them and many of their fans favourite ever player.

Any view to the contrary is nonsense. They’re utter rubbish. They had three decent years in the 80’s. They’re a terrible side full of absolute groks.

Their best player, Linekar, managed a year before legging it. Rooney saw their first team and in his words said “these are rubbish”.


44.) 28 Dec 2024 23:14:30
You do all realise that the club really do want Trent to stay, and they will have offered him the maximum that they are willing to pay, and that the decision will always be with the player……and if he wishes to move, then they can’t do anything about it.
Think we all wish he would sign a deal, but if he goes…. then I won’t lose any sleep. We have lost better players in better positions and the club will evolve.
Thanks for the good times and no hard feelings…. (other than I would prefer a transfer fee, but that’s life! )


45.) 28 Dec 2024 17:03:49
I'm sure Ed025 has been an angel all his life *wink* : )

{Ed025's Note - my middle name is Gabriel KC.. :)


46.) 28 Dec 2024 19:49:55
@ed25. Soz mate I let you have labone Watson etc but come on mate Keane? think the mulled wine kicking in.

{Ed025's Note - i think him and Carra could be twins mate..


47.) 28 Dec 2024 19:54:00
Some very valid points on both sides of the Carra discussion.
But sorry 025 old chap, I simply can't buy the "Michael Keane" is better narrative.
As a player Keane isn't fit to lace Carra's boots.

{Ed025's Note - very similar ability wise i would suggest Flash..


48.) 28 Dec 2024 22:38:04
Ed025, are you saying that Trent would have signed a new deal a year ago, had one been offered?
If he fancies a move, and has had that on his mind for a while, what difference would an offer have made?
How are these types of negotiations usually carried out? it seems like all 3 of them and the club were sizing up the situation.

{Ed025's Note - im saying that the narrative should have been...either sign or you are on the transfer list Vango, you cant just let a player go without getting a decent fee for him mate, especially a sought after player like Trent..


49.) 29 Dec 2024 02:29:45
Carragher will undoubtedly split the fan base when it comes to legendary status. He was good at times when we needed him and equally bad in others. He has longevity on his side but if he was a great player like Gerrard surely more teams would have registered interest to sign him.

I agree he shouldn't have spat at a child but one act shouldn't soil his name forever.

I think ed025 was being a little bit naughty using Myra Hindley as a comparison though. I don't think the crimes match up.


50.) 29 Dec 2024 06:43:57
@Ed25, it’s been said on here that Trent made it known a (long) while ago that he wanted to stay. It could be that he didn’t get pushed by the club. I agree with hindsight, that is a mistake by the club to not force the issue. As an aside that would not be an issue with the people at the club now as none of the three vilified now weren’t around 18 - 24 months ago.

Like I’ve said a few times on here, as far back as Sept 23, a lad who works at the club in a minor capacity told me, when I was over in Liverpool that Trent was learning Spanish.

{Ed025's Note - i just think its a shame if he does go WDW, and if he goes for nothing thats even worse mate..


51.) 29 Dec 2024 10:25:13
I was there in Istanbul and all those players get their deserved legendary status from me.
Including Jerzy Dudek, Vlad Smicer, Djibril Cisse, Jon Arne Riise, Didi Hamann, Steve Finnan, Harry Kewell

Would any of them get into my top 200 Liverpool players ever? Probably not.
But they will always remain legends for me.

Whatever they do off the pitch matters, but the spitting incident doesn’t take it away from Carra.


52.) 29 Dec 2024 09:40:33
Here’s the thing, according to Ed 025 we are consistently bad with regards to negotiations and every summer Mo is leaving.
Yet we have the leagues best team and Mo is the leagues best player.

Re: Trent. No player would’ve signed a new deal knowing Klopp was leaving. They’d want to know the new manager first. Secondly, we have no idea Trent hasn’t (via his agent) just flat out lied.

You can’t make a player sign. You cannot just accept the best run club in the world are incompetent, I know it’s the received logic here but evidence suggests it’s a bit silly and that Ed 025 is very good at winding you up.

{Ed025's Note - i have never said before this instance that LFC are bad at negotiations or that mo would leave...you are lying, if you are happy for your 3 best players to have the ability leave for nothing then who am i to argue?..


53.) 29 Dec 2024 10:40:51
Regarding Carragher.
Interview with Rafa.
If you want to buy Gerrard and Carragher it will cost £200m.
£180m for Gerrard
£20M for Carragher
Maybe a little tongue in cheek. But likely not a bad comparison in terms of ability. Not a legend in my eyes. But this site is all about opinions. As someone posted earlier why was Carragher not sounded out my other managers. Or was he.


54.) 29 Dec 2024 11:07:36
I am no expert in football finances but can anyone put a figure on the value of the three players out of contract? Fine to say we are Liverpool and we will replace said players. We have done so in the past, no player is bigger than the club. But what will the club need to spend to replace these players and will they be of a similar ability. Then there is the need for strengthening other positions. Mind boggling that we are in this position. I would love all three to sign new contracts but I am not confident.

{Ed001's Note - I think people are forgetting that two of them will need to be replaced soon anyway, whether they stay or go now, the club will have to replace them in, at most, 3 years. And that is best case.}


55.) 29 Dec 2024 11:08:00
E025 Carra was a champions league winner something no Everton player has ever done and unlikely too in our lifetime. And I can’t think of any Everton players in premier league time better than him. Lescot and Stones maybe but not a definite. Branthwaite Looks like a player but only time will tell. But ed025 be it banter or bitterness I don’t know but you have a very low rating of lots of our players if it be Bobby carra even trying to make out Digne was better than Robertson in his prime while most of football thought he was the best left back in the world at that time. The spitting incident was a despicable act and for me it shows what a person he is but with social media nowadays you don’t get away with things but I can’t imagine what players where up to years ago without everything getting shared. I thought sky should have sacked him but am not sure if they would have been able to sack him for that. As for club legend a champions league winner and second on appearances so if you like him or not he will go down as a legend and in years to come that spitting incident will be forgotten. Is giggs a club legend and Utd and what he has done is by far worse.

{Ed025's Note - i agree with a lot of that Grino but we all have different standards i suppose mate, i never defended Giggs as he is another scum bag in my eyes and i have stated that in the past, i have no bitterness towards Liverpool though and speak very highly of your last 2 managers and a plethora of your players as im sure you know, i always thought Bobby was over egged but thats just an opinion, i feel character is just as important as ability but thats just me i suppose..


56.) 29 Dec 2024 11:58:09
grino75
As long as Ed025 is around the spitting incident will not be forgotten, and neither should it. I cannot think there would be a situation were I would spit at another person. It was disgusting behaviour from Carra. I cannot accept what he did was because he was being taunted, I am sure he gets this all the time. Does he always resort to spitting.


57.) 29 Dec 2024 12:35:40
I find it disgusting too but what I would say carra was a better defender than people giving him credit for then thing that let him down from being top draw was his speed. But he would throw his body under a bus when defending. If he was as bad as people are making out he would not have stayed at the club and played that many games. He won plenty of trophies and during that time we had some truly awful players but carra never let us down too many times.


58.) 29 Dec 2024 13:34:08
I take your point grino75. But was Carra a good player in an average team. I feel being a scouser maybe he is considered better than he actually was. Not saying he was a poor player but maybe rose tinted spectacles. Would he have a place in todays team, I am not so sure. I think Stevie G would.


59.) 29 Dec 2024 15:17:31
Must have been another Ed 025 who constantly referred to Klipperty (oh so funny nickname) and his unethical dealings that has alienated loads of clubs who would never deal with us again OR that every season Salahs agent was pimping him to every club in the world because Salah wanted out.

I mean, that definitely wasn’t you?

Identify theft hey?

{Ed001's Note - that was Ed002, you are just making yourself look foolish now.}


60.) 30 Dec 2024 00:13:04
Getting back to Trent:

I’d play him even if he’s off. Get your moneys worth from him, put more mileage in his legs. He’s a highly paid player, it makes no sense to bench him unless he’s out of form.


61.) 30 Dec 2024 02:51:44
Everton had a very, very good English defender who played in the England World Cup winning team . He was, on his worst day, a lot, lot better player than Carra and off the field I believe he never actually got around to spitting on children.

I think some people are making a mistake the means being in a team or squad that wins a cup or title means you are automatically a good player, which isn’t true.


 

 

08 Oct 2024 10:33:30
I can't believe the panic at the thought of losing firstly trent, as we can buy another right back who is defensively better and can pass the ball to the standard required also when trent was injured last season we performed well, salah has needed real competition for the last 5 years and now he is 32 naturally he will need replacing . Vvd is the hard one as I believe he still has 3 to 4 years of quality service to give to us. All this being said we shouldn't be worrying about losing players they should be worried about leaving us or they are not worth wearing the badge.

hailstones

1.) 08 Oct 2024 10:56:39
Of course we should be worried about losing 3 of our best players, each of who can make an argument to be the best in the world in their position as well as gracing our all time Liverpool XI.

Personally, I don? t believe any of the 3 players will be unreasonable in their demands. They clearly love it here.

The ball is firmly in Edwards and Hughes court. Are Liverpool Football Club ambitious enough to keep their best players?


2.) 08 Oct 2024 11:10:46
Hailstones, I get the sentiment and the attempt at optimism but it's just wrong.

Of course losing our 3 (probably 4 with Ali) best players is a concern, it would be for any team in the world.

'can buy another right back', not of the quality of Trent.

If we sign Bastoni, Frimpong and Rodrygo, which clearly will never happen. You are spending potentially £250m to downgrade.

To pretend this is anything short of an absolute mess of a situation is nonsense mate.


3.) 08 Oct 2024 11:18:37
So we are saying if we lose trent we can't function as a team . if so we may as well go home and start supporting prescot cables . Big teams lose big players we are a big team and we find solutions and move on . united did it city are doing it we also should do it and can do it. Only vvd is playing at a worldclass level week in week out for me he is proving to be the real glue out of the 3 players that could leave.


4.) 08 Oct 2024 11:38:51
Are you ok? No one is saying we can't function, but losing our 3 best players, again potentially 4 with Ali is a disaster.

United did it and City are doing it? When did they lose their 3 best players all in the same window for free, please enlighten me.

You are trying too hard to be optimistic and individualize them leaving, but that's not the case, all 3 are going.

Could we cope with 1 of the 3 maybe 4 going? of course, but you know that's not the case, so to individualize their importance shows a lack of knowledge or deliberate ignorance.

It makes a huge difference that the captain, vice captain, top scorer and best goalkeeper in the world are all potentially leaving at once and it definitely isn't fine.


5.) 08 Oct 2024 11:42:59
hailstones - of course we would move on. We always have. That is not the point. The point is they all want to stay. Yes, Trent's head has been turned by Real's advances but I still believe he would like to stay and achieve more with his boyhood club.

The ball is in the club's court.


6.) 08 Oct 2024 12:05:44
No one bar Trent knows what he wants, it’s stupid to think otherwise. If the club fail to offer him a new contract then his decision is an easy one, if they do and he decides to join Real Madrid then so be it. The ball is firmly in Trent’s court, and let’s not blame Edward’s etc for this mess, he was allowed to run down his contract before they came on board.


7.) 08 Oct 2024 12:12:30
"Losing a £90m player for nothing is totes not a big deal. "

- Hailstones.


8.) 08 Oct 2024 12:12:51
Pelican do you have a private relationship with all 3 players or there agent and know for a fact they want to stay? . As I stated vvd is the one I am most worried about losing his leadership and quality which is both impeccable. United lost players like Keane, jaap stam, Beckham, Ronaldo, van nistelrooy, veron, etc adapted and won . City have lost players like tevez, kompany, aguero, mahrez, foden, sane, nani etc still won.


9.) 08 Oct 2024 12:34:32
Sorry not foden cole palmer.


10.) 08 Oct 2024 12:46:09
Losing them isn’t the thing for me……losing them for absolute zilch is the major issue. Salah and vvd I kind of get, sure they’ll get another year option atleast but Trent is different level stupidity. to replace a rb fair enough there are options but you ain’t getting anyone of his passing quality too, not a absolute chance.


11.) 08 Oct 2024 12:51:30
Based on this and last season performances I agree with hailstones the order of who I hope signs the most would be:-
1. VVD
2. Trent
3. Salah.


12.) 08 Oct 2024 13:22:30
hailstones - each have said they are happy here and are ready to talk to the club. Are you paying attention?


13.) 08 Oct 2024 14:46:07
There must be more to this than meets the eye. On paper Salah and VVD are model pros with great injury records so are definitely worthy of 2-3 year contracts. Trent is near to world class and will be due a bumper salary increase and imo he is worth it due to his age and potential sale value if he accepts a new contract.

So either Liverpool are being careful with money and not wanting bumper salary rises although if the players left they would have to replace them, a hugely tricky and maybe more expensive task.

Or the players actually want to leave maybe for a big pay day in Saudi or PSG or to one of the elite European clubs that consistently win trophies Real / Bayern.

If either the club or the players wish to no longer be contracted to each other it is going to create bad feeling in and around the club. So maybe the silence speaks volumes.


14.) 08 Oct 2024 16:15:21
We lose the best manager in the world and replace him with someone nobody ever heard of ( baring ed2) then the following season 3 of our best players walk out . I don’t know what message you lot see in that.

They should have been signed up last year and if the players declined then we should have started the ball rolling on replacing them. Not the approach we took this summer ( which was ludicrous if you ask me) if I was a top player I wouldn’t be in a rush to sign for us.

We’re ( the club) always looking for an angle. If we go after a player we look for an angle to save money. If players run down there contracts we renew at the last min to save money. So thinking we will identify and sign suitable replacements in one or two windows is daft.

More so with the way Hughes worked in the summer. We been looking ( supposedly) for a vvd replacement for a couple of seasons yet all we managed to do was upset a few clubs. Shambolic if you ask me.


15.) 08 Oct 2024 17:35:33
I don’t know what all the fuss is about. The situation is not ideal but it’s not the clubs fault if the players decide to leave. Players move all the time. Trent owes us nothing, he has been brilliant along with Mo and big Virg. We can’t stop them moving just like I couldn’t stop any of you moving jobs. Let it play out and enjoy them whilst they still play for us.


16.) 08 Oct 2024 20:18:51
Conor Bradley was fantastic IMO, last year. He is better defensively. Keeping VVD is critical. I would keep VVD if I had the money for only one player.


17.) 08 Oct 2024 23:30:41
It’s not the losing them that worries me, it’s getting the right replacements in that does.
I know we have bought well in our recent history so I’m sure it won’t be a major issue.
Saying that I would be gutted if we lost Trent. Salah and VVD have more games behind them than ahead of them now.


18.) 09 Oct 2024 02:42:49
How much would you say the 3 are worth not onli numerically but in terms of experience?

That’s my concern….


19.) 09 Oct 2024 07:42:06
We still need reinforcements now, maybe 1 or 2…. add that to salah vvd and Trent possible exits…. absolutely no way 3 quality replacements will be added there, never mind the reinforcements we already need will be brought in next summer. Although I agree Conor Bradley is a really good player and has a very good future ahead of him, he isn’t ready to be full time 1st choice rb yet.


20.) 09 Oct 2024 10:17:43
If Alexander-Arnold was offered £300,000 a week, that's £78 million over 5 years.

Let him go, then buy someone to replace him, at say £40 million and pay them 146k a week.

Works out the same.

they might not be as good.
They might be better.

We don't make these decisions.


21.) 09 Oct 2024 11:50:26
I have no problem with TAA moving om if that's his choice, and it is his choice, We've had a good ride with him for what is essentially only an investment in wages. Salah, was an investment in fees but is now in my opinion an excessive investment in wages for his overall comparative contribution compared to what someone else could deliver. VVD has more that delivered as a player, leader and role model, he sets standards and at whatever price and continued cost is an asset to the club and I hope will continue to be so.

I can't get excited about players moving on and being replaced with someone different, it brings a new dynamic and that's a good thing both tactically and from an interest perspective, a positive change. If TAA wants to go to Real or Oxford United, let him go with thanks and welcome the next guy and enjoy the ride. When Mo moves on, thanks for the effort and good luck. but for so many reasons VVD has still a valuable contribute to make for a year or two yet.


22.) 09 Oct 2024 16:01:59
Prioritising the 3?
Equally influencial and important. It is a joke that the club land themselves in this position to begin with.
I would want all 3 to stay, and if anyone is to leave, it will be the 1 that get the most bucks.


23.) 10 Oct 2024 00:30:35
Completely agree Viva.
Whats to stop Real taking Trent and VVD on frees next year?
That would be a bitter pill to swallow.


24.) 10 Oct 2024 08:20:21
Agree with the first post to a large extent. I also never talk about BEST players.

This is very much a team sport and it is therefore the players that have quality and fit into the team that we always want.

What’s the average time ANY player stays with a squad? 5 years? Either to move on or even to retire if bought in mid / late 20s?!

Don’t get me wrong all three of these players have the right quality and the right team dynamic we know and have felt the benefit of that but none of them are irreplaceable. If they are irreplaceable then so are those better than them in the past - and for sure we have had equal or better quality than all 3 in the past.

So, let’s look to the present and the future with or without them if they move on I wish the. Well and thank them and welcome their replacements - I know we will get it right we on average do!

YNWA.


25.) 10 Oct 2024 08:23:51
To add to my other post - again referencing the nature of the sport as a TEAM sport not an Individual sport - the so called best players are often the best players in one team and not another (when they move on) . Little Phil, Torres, Kewell (great at leafs a liability for us), etc etc.


 

 

26 Aug 2024 11:40:39
There have been rumours about Ait Nouri but for me he can't defend if we were signing him to play in midfield or as a winger I can see serious promise in him and could see something interesting.

hailstones

1.) 26 Aug 2024 12:04:52
Part Ex for CK?
I prefer the idea of Soler, as back up to Robbo.


2.) 26 Aug 2024 12:06:08
Man i really thought he was a very good LB until i watched the Chelsea game yesterday! He made Noni look like Salah on Steroids from the 17-18 season! lol.

But seriously he can only be good if you play with a back 3. They switched to a back 4 and wow they looked so exposed, i mean Chelsea could have scored 10 yesterday!


3.) 26 Aug 2024 12:54:08
He got absolutely rinsed yesterday alright.


4.) 26 Aug 2024 15:52:07
I wish Bradley could play there.


5.) 26 Aug 2024 17:52:45
Have to say nearly every Chelsea goal came down his side yesterday. Looked very exposed!


6.) 26 Aug 2024 20:39:28
I always laughed when people talk up Ait Nouri (same with Robinson at Fulham) . Both couldn't defend against a chair if their lives depended on it. Just happy to see that people are starting to catch on. N btw, he has always dropped defensive stinkers but people never seemed to notice either.


7.) 26 Aug 2024 21:23:05
OliRed- he’s defended very well against Salah almost every time we have played Wolves.


 

 

03 Aug 2024 11:02:56
Keep an eye out for us trying to sign anton stack of stuttgart and or angelo stiller of hoffenheim .

hailstones

1.) 03 Aug 2024 12:22:07
Because Ecila football video?


2.) 03 Aug 2024 12:34:30
What's that?


3.) 03 Aug 2024 12:48:51
Some video maybe?


4.) 03 Aug 2024 14:06:21
They have the same initials?


5.) 03 Aug 2024 15:20:49
Hmmm, Always good to spell the name right and get the clubs correct.

Anton Stach, 6-4", Just signed a 4 year deal last season at HOFFENHEIM. He finished the 2023–24 season with second most duels won in 408 occasions. Has not been called into the German National team since 2022 who went with a Emre Can at the Euro's as backup. Would he really want to play in England?

Angelo Stiller is 6.0 foot tall, does he fit the profile of d-mid in England? Also just signed a 4 year deal at Stuttgart last year.


6.) 03 Aug 2024 15:45:12
Clubs are the wrong way around mate, but interesting info. Stach and Stiller are very different players so signing both wouldn’t be crazy but on the off chance your source has sound info, it would suggest the likes of Endo and maybe Gravenberch could be seen as surplus. I’ve not seen loads of either of them but the little I have seen Stach is more of a destroyer like Fabinho but Stiller is more of a deep lying playmaker in a similar mould to Thiago.

I’m not sure Stach is suited to the way we’ve been trying to play in pre-season so far, but Stiller definitely is.


7.) 03 Aug 2024 16:31:21
Soz about the wrong info but apparently them players have been looked at along with frendrup.


8.) 03 Aug 2024 18:54:14
Hailstones she's a man u fan, does videos on YouTube, she put them 2 names as potential good signings for liverpool on a video yesterday.


9.) 03 Aug 2024 19:05:35
How ironic I heard it somewhere else.


10.) 04 Aug 2024 00:20:19
Ecila Football is a Manc fan that spreads msm gossip as some sort of in the know exclusive. Probably, but definitely best to ignore.


11.) 04 Aug 2024 12:14:57
He watched Alice’s YouTube and became an ITK.

She’s a really good content creator, but she never claimed these are happening- just discussed CB, DM and Wide options that’s she would see working at Liverpool.


12.) 04 Aug 2024 12:29:59
Ahhh that Alice the Utd fan?‍♂️. I should have guessed.


 

 

 

hailstones's banter posts with other poster's replies to hailstones's banter posts

 

16 May 2025 16:15:29
Ello ed 25 hope you are well I hear Branthwaite is 50/ 50 if he will stay, I rate him highly certainly higher than konate, do you think he will stay? and also I would love too sign him difficult as it is. I would of thought if he asks to leave the whole of Europe would be interested.

hailstones

{Ed025's Note - hi Hailstones im good thanks mate, i think if Jarrad leaves he will have a plethora of suitors mate, i hope he stays personally but he did say he wanted to leave last season and i dont know if that has changed, i suspect he would do well at Liverpool but there are a lot of reasons why its probably difficult..


1.) 16 May 2025 16:50:35
I think Branthwaite is a very good player but I also believe Konate is a very good player.

And Konate is far more battle tested Internationally, in Europe and at a league winning club level.

Branthwaite still has to prove it at those levels.


 

 

12 May 2025 21:26:59
I wonder if slots actions in playing trent on Sunday kind of throwing him to the lions could anger other players in the squad who are close to trent as he looked quite upset, personally I wish he never played it was sad to see and almost instantly destroyed the atmosphere in the ground. I am as angry anyone at trent but to go out like this feels so weird for him.

hailstones

{Ed025's Note - very poor decision by Slot for me Hailstones, had nothing to gain by bringing him on imo mate..


1.) 12 May 2025 22:02:34
To be fair 25, Slot wouldn’t have an idea that the crowd would react as they did. I’m certain Trent won’t play against Palace.

{Ed025's Note - or did he know Irish?, Slot is nobodys fool mate but i dont think we will see him in a liverpool shirt again, unless it is at the parade like VVD thinks will happen..


2.) 12 May 2025 22:23:33
I think on a human level it was a bit senseless, although if I got paid his wage I might bear the brunt then move to Thailand.


3.) 12 May 2025 22:27:10
Slot should play him.

If you’re big enough to make the decision to leave then you’re big enough to take the reaction.

I actually think he’s doing Trent a favour, get the reaction out the way before the parade, before the last home game (farewell) and before he goes to Madrid. He’ll get abuse in Spain, this will help him deal with it.

{Ed025's Note - not sure about that Ron, best for all concerned if he never played again for the reds imo mate, before Sunday i thought he should go on the parade but now im beginning to think that would be a bad idea, this should be a time for celebration and not turning it into a circus..


4.) 12 May 2025 23:15:25
If Trent wants to hand his wages back then okay, don’t play him. But if we need him to play, ie protecting Bradley on his way back from injury, then Slot has every right to play him. It is, at the end of the day, a business, right?
And I say that as someone who wouldn’t boo him, but I’m not having it that he decides to leave and we pay him circa £1m/ month and tell him it’s okay, we won’t play you so you don’t get a rough reception.


5.) 12 May 2025 22:54:08
Slot is very single minded, his job is to win football matches so if he thinks Trent can help us do that then he will play him.

He said himself he can’t control what fans reactions are nor should he care.

Way too much is being made of it to be honest with everyone seeming to have an opinion on it. People are blatantly just using it to have a pop at Liverpool including our good friend Ed25. It’s all just media driven nonsense that people are too gullible to see past. There was a whole section on it on TalkSh! te today with Keown and White throwing more grenades into the mix.

In reality it was just Panto. Booing the perceived villain until he’s standing over a free kick then praying for him to stick it in the top bin.

It’s a bit of a joke really.

{Ed025's Note - i can assure you i was not having a pop Robbo, i just dont want it to spoil what should be a huge celebration on Merseyside..


6.) 13 May 2025 06:55:19
I agree with ron, he a lfc player as we speak and in the arsenal game we where struggling at the time he came on, Bradley's minutes need to be managed and we had nobody else to play rb who of a certain standard. I personally not in slightest bit concerned about results of games now but a lot of supporters are so slot tried to win the game. would putting quansah on at rb helped us? Not a chance it would put u under more pressure.
I'm surprised why everybody so shocked about reaction to trent coming on, I had no doubt that would be the reaction. It was always going to be messy and ruin trents winning of league to a certain degree, but he's made his bed and he needs to ly in it now.


7.) 13 May 2025 09:20:39
Trent was a part of the team that helped us win the league. He does not deserve this from the fanbase, it's quite pathetic to see the booing.

He is a grown man who is allowed to explore his career wherever he wants. Just like how the rest of us have this option in our own careers.

{Ed078's Note - I may get hate, but, couldn't agree more. We are but mere fans, it's a business and they are players in that business. We don't own them. I'm born and bred Fazakerley boy, but that gives me no right to judge, boo, insult.


8.) 13 May 2025 12:50:24
All this is on the timing of the video release, was of any benefit to anyone and wasn't needed at all, Slot would of got grief for playing him or not playing him, and be being accused of ruining his send off, that video hasn't and was never needed, poor from everyone involved, it was totally designed to take the gloss off the fantastic achievement the team has made.


9.) 13 May 2025 13:46:54
Slot played Trent because Bradley was on a yellow and looking knackered. Trent has won games for us in the past, remember Leicester city?


10.) 13 May 2025 09:12:50
I agree with Ed 25, we should be celebrating a title win. This Trent rubbish show is all the media are jumping on. He shouldn't play for Liverpool again. And I really don't want kids seeing idiots giving him sh*t on the parade. Again this should be a celebration on Merseyside not a witch hunt. No hard feelings from me, but we move on like he has.


11.) 13 May 2025 10:25:20
Completely agree Ed078. let's be thankful that a kid from Liverpool won everything there is to win with us and created great memories. He wants to explore a different part of life now and why not?

I'd like the fanbase to be a bit kinder to him as I do think one day he'll return to the club.


 

 

12 May 2025 14:52:43
Wouldnt be surprised to see curtis jones leave this summer he doesn't look happy with substitute role and i am starting to think we will never see his full potential and he might actually need a move to have more of an important role. I also think this applys to elliot, quansah and definitely morton.

hailstones

1.) 12 May 2025 15:28:26
Looks happy to me and defended his teammates vs Everton. And he was ONE player the new gaffer trusted to rotate in when needed. He also can play in multiple positions. Don't see any drama here.


2.) 12 May 2025 15:28:50
Curtis gets plenty of chances to be fair.

If you look at his appearances, he started Chelsea home and away, Arsenal home and away, Villa home and away, Everton at home, City away and Newcastle away. He cannot complain about that!

His injury record has been much better this year so he should be commended on whatever he has done to improve that.

Unfortunately, he's not improved his one major flaw - holding onto the ball too long. Whether he will ever be able to change that will define his long term career/ success.


3.) 12 May 2025 15:28:52
26 starts and 18 sub appearances doesn't exactly strike me as horrifying. He's been our go-to guy most of the time when any one out of McAllister, Gravenberch or Szoboszlai have been rested or rotated, and I assume will continue as so.

If he wants to start the majority of games, he has to become better than one of those three. Whilst he's a decent player (although he still hold onto the ball too long), I don't see him doing that. Although personally I'd move McAllister further forward and have Jones battle it out with Szob and it's not entirely out of the question he could reach Szob's level. If nothing else, Szob's work rate puts him well ahead for now.

I suppose it's a case of whether he's happy with his current game time, I guess.


4.) 12 May 2025 15:33:15
Any homegrown players left?


5.) 12 May 2025 16:00:52
Keep Endo, sell Jones, buy a proper playmaker.


6.) 12 May 2025 16:02:58
Curtis Jones is probably the same as how my wife describes me in the bedroom.

Decent in a number of positions but not great at any of them.


7.) 12 May 2025 16:26:15
Very good, JK, very good. I was going to say I only play in one position, at the back, but I won't, because there are children on this site.


8.) 12 May 2025 16:31:22
6 Gold Stars. By my count we have 15 non Home Grown players over the age of 21, plus Mamardashvili to arrive is 16. You can register 17.

We could possibly sell Nunez, Chiesa and Jota and replace them with 2 players to cut that down to 15, although I'm not sure there'd be great demand for Chiesa and Jota, it mightn't be possible to offload both. Despite his poor form, Nunez has at least a track record of being fit, so there shouldn't be too much difficulty with him.

But then Alexander-Arnold's replacement in the squad might bring us back up to 16. Unless we get someone HG like Walker-Peters to act as understudy / rotation option to Bradley as first choice.

I'd assume Tsimikas, Endo and maybe Robbo, would be replaced on a like for like basis and not change the overall number.

But yeah, getting rid of any three out of Elliot, Quansah, Jones and Gomez, and replacing them with non-HG players may result in some squad selection headaches. If we do sell three of those, surely at least one would have to be replaced by a promotion from within. Koumas perhaps? Maybe even only bring in 1 forward and promote Danns, but with him writing off nearly the whole season injured, that's a big risk. Personally I think Jones and Quansah will stay though.

Morton was barely used this season, so we can sell him without replacing him.


9.) 12 May 2025 16:52:30
Frimpong would be classed as home grown if signed, I would expect Robertson to stay and see out his contract and work with whichever left back is brought in.


10.) 12 May 2025 16:55:59
Jones ain't going nowhere unless he's told he's not wanted and he's is very much wanted by Slot. This I know for certain, so don't start bollocks rumours ?.


11.) 12 May 2025 17:31:33
Exactly sr, makes me laugh when people come on and say we will sell quansah jones Gomez elliot and replace them with X, ed 02 used to put them in their place.


12.) 12 May 2025 17:49:23
I’m not a massive fan of Jones’s style of play to be 100% honest and I’m not convinced he will ever be in the nailed on 1st team starting line up but he seems a decent lad, loves the club and is a good squad option. Whether Jones is happy long term as a squad player remains to be seen but hopefully he can kick on and work on a few areas.


13.) 12 May 2025 18:21:36
He looks very happy with his role. He’s not playing well enough to be first choice.


14.) 12 May 2025 18:58:40
I think he feels he is worth more than fleeting roles, also trent celebrated winning the league like his life depended on it we got really excited then he done a video saying he is leaving, so jones is a scouser and naturally didn't take no rubbish of dacoure.


15.) 13 May 2025 09:30:57
Jones and Gomez are probably going nowhere.


 

 

26 Apr 2025 23:32:20
I am hoping we push for adam Wharton as one of our primary targets if he is unavailable baleba would be a brilliant signing.

hailstones

1.) 27 Apr 2025 00:10:10
Be a waste of money imo when we have similar players already.


 

 

07 Apr 2025 10:38:41
I have heard we don't see midfield as a priority which is baffling to me as quite clearly our midfield has been getting bullied recently and in patches throughout the season. Its weird that we have done brilliantly this season we can still improve in defence, midfield and attack this will only happen with new additions and selling players.

hailstones

1.) 07 Apr 2025 11:01:58
seeing as you have ears close to the ground, maybe you can influence them to think otherwise.


2.) 07 Apr 2025 11:02:03
I reckon that is a bluff, mate.


3.) 07 Apr 2025 11:08:16
To be fair we do have 4 midfielders who are deemed by Slot as good enough to start in Gravenberch, Szoboszlai, Mac Allister and Jones. They're all aged 22-26 as well so not even in their prime years. I'd have thought the main issue with our midfield is that Slot clearly doesn't trust Elliott and Endo from the start, or trust Morton at all. Hopefully McConnell and/ or Nyoni can kick on next season as they seem well liked by Slot. But we should at least look to replace Morton in my opinion with someone Slot will actually utilise even if it's just off the bench. Endo and Elliott are at least used as impact subs but Morton doesn't get anywhere near the pitch.

We should definitely be focusing our priorities on positions in the starting XI though. That will be replacing Robertson and Nunez with a LB and ST we can rely on. Then it's likely to be about replacing players who are rumoured to push to leave (Trent, Konate, Diaz etc) . We may even have to replace Salah and Virgil if they don't sign new deals which is still up in the air.

I can see why midfield is not considered a priority. Whether we agree with it or not is another matter entirely, but 4 out of the last 6 players we've signed in the last 2 years were midfielders. Whereas the last time we signed a defender was Konate in 2021. As I said above though, I hope we replace Morton so Slot's got another option for next season.


4.) 07 Apr 2025 11:49:46
Slot wanted Zubemendi 10 months ago. So let’s not bluff about him not wanting a midfielder. 4 paragraph essay won’t change that. If we end up not signing one then it’s down to us not having enough cash to sign rather than slot not wanting to. It’s that simple. You can’t go into a 60 games a season with 4 midfielders for 3 positions.


5.) 07 Apr 2025 12:02:23
We are on 73 points with 4 midfielders this season.


6.) 07 Apr 2025 12:34:49
We may be 73 points with this team but you can put your house on this time next year 73 points will only have you in the mix not leading by 11.


7.) 07 Apr 2025 13:01:06
Harry, nobody has said he doesn't want a midfielder. I merely explained why it would make sense for it to no longer be a priority. Gravenberch and Jones both stepped up to do quite well and in the same time frame Nunez/ Jota have both regressed massively whilst Robertson has seemingly hit a steep decline. Then you have the 3 contracts still not sorted.

Presumably English isn't your first language, but "priority" just means what you will focus on first. A midfielder not being a priority doesn't mean we won't look at signing one, it just means other areas might be more important. Hard to disagree looking at the state of our defending yesterday, and the fact that 32 year old out of contract Salah has more goals/ assists than our other 5 forwards combined.


8.) 07 Apr 2025 13:11:10
We clearly lack phsycality in midfield and attack that's why players like semenyo, baleba, varela, cunha, etc are welcome in games where we face physical teams.


9.) 07 Apr 2025 13:58:08
TIR, it’s not 4 anyway. It’s 7 senior midfielders and 2 academy midfielders. Grav, Szoboszlai, Macca, Jones, Endo, Elliott, Morton, McConnell and Nyoni makes 9 with my maths. Harry just likes to post hyperbole. Or maybe he simply can’t count as my first post was clearly 3 paragraphs, not 4 as he claimed ?

Hailstones, I’d also like some more physical players. Not sure we’ll get that wish though.


10.) 07 Apr 2025 15:18:23
John
I remember last season people putting their house on Liverpool struggling to make top 4 this season, yet here we are.


11.) 07 Apr 2025 15:36:45
Àh City are going to be back to 2019 form without just about anyone from that side and Arsenal won't get one injury or red card all season. I reckon ye'll need 115 pts to be champs next year just to make sure.


12.) 07 Apr 2025 15:59:40
115 pts or 115 charges? Asking for a Manc friend.

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16 May 2025 12:14:13
Ed do you rate sesko? He does seem to get better each year . Personally i think etikite is more rounded as a striker in terms of touch, awareness on the pitch of who is around him and finishing, sesko is better in the air which is something we need but i get a feeling etikite has the most potential.

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16 May 2025 12:17:56
If we want a 10 its cherki all day, fraction of the cost and his out put is more than wirtz . Only thing questionable is defensive contribution and supposed attitude. Mavericks are unique and the players we have can be the protection for cherki to flourish.

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13 May 2025 20:23:40
Do you not rate ramos as a different option of striker ed, I have always thought he was a) better than nunez b) a quality striker.

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18 Apr 2025 10:43:33
I hope so he would be great.

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25 Mar 2025 12:41:57
Rather than looking at the glass half empty I am excited about replacing trent with a solid player who can defend and attack and we can become more creative in other areas of the pitch, since 21/ 22 he is not that assist machine although his passing is class he is not irreplaceable.

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12 May 2025 22:23:33
I think on a human level it was a bit senseless, although if I got paid his wage I might bear the brunt then move to Thailand.

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12 May 2025 21:29:33
Proper momentum player gakpo when he is hot he is sizzling but when coming back from injury hard to get going like a rusty old xr3i low on oil.

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12 May 2025 18:58:40
I think he feels he is worth more than fleeting roles, also trent celebrated winning the league like his life depended on it we got really excited then he done a video saying he is leaving, so jones is a scouser and naturally didn't take no rubbish of dacoure.

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26 Apr 2025 23:54:42
It's amazing we have won the league this year and blatantly can improve in almost all areas of the pitch, whilst we are top of the tree it would be nice to improve from a position of strength and sign the cream of the crop, I am fascinated to see the work of Richards this summer.

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07 Apr 2025 13:11:10
We clearly lack phsycality in midfield and attack that's why players like semenyo, baleba, varela, cunha, etc are welcome in games where we face physical teams.

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