Liverpool Banter 2

08 Nov 2026 19:13:59
Some random thought after today's game. I know Iraola might be thinking long term in trying to get Barcola to work on the left but I thought this even before he joined. In my mind Barcola has always been far better on the right. He is actually a good crosser of the ball and can set up a lot of chances from there. For PSG he scores from there also. It seems like he has less pressure to look for the goals and is very dangerous setting up chances from that position.

Add to that Gakpo is miles better on the left.

I really hope we look to keep Barcola on the right. We look far more balanced in attack with that combo.

We saw it against brighton then some reason he reversed them to opposite wings. I still think he is exploring stuff but I could see Barcola as a long term RW option personally. LW I just think his cutting in and finishing on his right or left foot crossing is not at the level. On the right side, that speed and crossing causes problems.

Munoz is very dangerous off the bench too. He is a good sub.

It's something Rio really needs to work on. He should be an absolute terror off the bench late on but he is no where near as good as when he starts.

It was not all that great today but I'm hoping Iraola got some good learnings from it and most importantly we got the win.

Also quick shout out to Nyoni who was terrific off the bench again and showed even more strings to his passing bow. He is an impressive kid. Hopefully we sign him up soon.

08 Nov 2026 23:57:09
Daventry spot on, Nyomi is for me our best player, he is improving every match.

09 Nov 2026 01:08:18
Barcola is going to be the most expensive Jacob Murphy in history.

09 Nov 2026 06:52:12
all 4 of them have had, to some extent that effect playing on the right. gakpo was also effective on the right. its likely that we'll just see all of them swapping depending on the opponent and game, and that's not a bad thing at all.

09 Nov 2026 07:01:46
In other words We have signed Jemaine Pennant for £125 mill Davey?

09 Nov 2026 07:39:41
Not sure why you think that Barcola has 'always been far better' on the right Davey, considering he played a grand total of 6 times for PSG on the right (10 times if you include the CL). In those 10 appearances he has 2 goals and 2 assists. For Lyon he played 11 times on the right, with 2 goals and 4 assists.

09 Nov 2026 08:10:48
Surprised that's all he played Patrick. I watched one against Chelsea and one for France and I thought he was going to be our RW option when we saw no left footer was bought.

For me the combo with him on the right is something we should explore.

Most expensive Jacob Murphy was good and funny but if it's effective, that's all that matters 😊.

09 Nov 2026 08:23:43
I think he probably can play right but it would be a bit odd to pay 100m+ for a natural left winger thinking that he'll play right wing long term. I know Mane switched wings permanently but Mane was an absolute freak of a player and one of the best wingers in world football over the last two decades. Barcola is still a raw player, I said it when he joined and he still has aspects to his game that need ironing out, his finishing is still scruffy at times and his game against a set defense still leaves something to be desired.

At the same time on the break last night when he pointed at where he wanted it and sprinted into space, you could see that he relishes opportunities like that and you can see how devastating he is when he has a bit of space to run into. At PSG even with the limitations in his game (which he still has ample time to address), I would say that he was one of the most dangerous players in Europe in terms of goal threat, purely because of how direct he is and how easily he just eats up space with his stride, he is so fast without and even with the ball.

I get that he can be inconsistent still with his final product (like that terrible miss when he was facing a virtually open goal yesterday), but I would actually say he has been less inconsistent than I was expecting, some of his final balls and decision making after generating separation have been genuinely excellent, and a few of them just haven't been finished off (or like the Isak non-penalty, left unrewarded because of an injustice). Sometimes even when he has space to attack behind a defender, he chooses not to take on his man, which can be equally frustrating. Still I am optimistic with him, and I'm not somebody who wanted Barcola at all initially.

08 Nov 2026
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08 Nov 2026 22:42:54

Amazing that we average 931 empty seats per game yet tickets are like rocking horse s***

09 Nov 2026 02:43:37
I'm hoping someone with more time or energy will work out the % vs max capacity of stadium please.

09 Nov 2026 10:41:03
Barry a poster was trying to give two tickets away for the Villareal game the other week and there was no takers.

Strange that.

09 Nov 2026 12:16:32
How can there be an average of 931 seats empty at anfield when tickets are like gold dust??? We are 4+ and still struggle to get tickets.

08 Nov 2026 20:35:46
Given the recent scrutiny that refs are under, it was probably not the best of timing for Mike Dean to come out and confess he used to play little games when reffing. eg see how long he could go without blowing a whistle for a foul, how long he could stay in the centre circle without moving out of it etc. Apparently he initially implied that he wasn't the only one but then backtracked on his comments once other refs complained he had thrown them under a bus.


BBC still has an article up referencing the comments.
Ive reffed games and have to say I've never had time to event think about stuff like that. It was all I could to ensure I was keeping an eye on everything whilst trying to manage the muppets who want to push the boundaries. And I wasn't getting paid a huge salary either.

08 Nov 2026 21:01:01
Wasn't that a couple of months ago and he's already done a massive back track on it.

Biggest issue with refs at all levels is it's clear they've never ever played the game to a certain standard. In an ideal world ex players would be doing it but I imagine unconscious bias would be the biggest issue then.

08 Nov 2026 21:28:05
Mike Dean is a clown! He hasn't had a consistent thought in over a decade. I think he goes on Sky and makes controversial statements for views because any ref worth there salt would argue that the pull on Havertz was more of a waste penalty than the Isak foul.

If that is his genuine professional opinion and it's not just for clicks then we know exactly why we have such issues with refs decisions now because Mike Dean was seen as a top level ref in his day and if that's the cream of the crop god help us all. It's the same with Howard Webb when he goes on Micd up, defending the indefensible, you'd have more respect if they just admitted a bad decision rather than gaslighting fans.

As a fan who watched football way before VAR I personally never expected perfect decisions and can accept human error but with all this technology it is eroding refs ability and an over reliance is placed on technology and messy rules are only muddying the water, my biggest hate is the catch all get out of jail term 'clear and obvious'.

scrap subjective decisions from VAR, use it for factual decisions like offside and give each team captain/coach 3 challenges a game. If you don't challenge a decision then the on field decision stands. All subjective decisions should be made by the on field ref at the monitor. 60 seconds to review at the monitor with no slow motion or freeze frames, show each angle and make the decision.

Post match refs should give there rational for the decisions without interference from PGMOL.

08 Nov 2026 21:40:38
The broadcasters literally hire these retired bellwhiffs to continue to gaslight fans. Honestly we don't want their opinions, never mind their pathetic attempts to cover up the incompetence and bias.

{Ed666's Note - Try watching a game with Clinton Morrison doing the commentary. It’s like watching an episode of Top Boy for 90 minutes…so annoying.

08 Nov 2026 21:51:18
@FPF, why do listen to them or read what they have to say? Genuine question.

08 Nov 2026 22:15:38
I don't go out of my way to listen to them but they are invited into co-commentary, sit in studios alongside pundits and even have a show on Sky called Ref Watch which runs clips on repeat. These fill your timelines.

Forget to mention the Michael Owen hosted show where Howard Webb is invited to light the touch paper again weeks after the controversial or incompetent calls.

I can ignore of course but doesn't mean they aren't there polluting the discourse.

08 Nov 2026 22:59:13
Ha Ed, Clinton can be forgiven for co-commentating on a Palace game. To be fair to him, accent aside, he was pretty balanced today. First time I've heard him on co-comms.

{Ed666's Note - He does my head in mate. There’s no insight, tactical acumen, charisma or appreciation of what’s going on within the game.

08 Nov 2026 23:26:51
At this point I would love a week where a controversial reffing decision doesn't go against us. Its just absurd that it keeps happening.

It's also crazy because it just makes you realize how good Klopps teams had to be to win by enough that the terrible (corrupt? ) refs couldn't stop us from winning. Today's PK obviously didn't affect the result, but the $ity and Arsenal games definitely did.

08 Nov 2026 23:44:36
A referee was caught on camera saying how much he hated the Liverpool manager. If he was happy to talk so openly to people not involved with his job imagine how they talk to each other.

Then we have the added bonus of certain referees taking jobs in the UAE mid season.

The refereeing set up at the top level is either inept or bias, either way it needs scrapping and starting again.

09 Nov 2026 09:59:01
Indeed, Sailor. Mike Dean literally snitched on all the refs a couple of years back on how they give or not give decisions to a team because said team had given his buddy a "hard time" in the game.

We also saw the ship show that was on display in real time during the audio of the Diaz situation.

In additions to refs (who ref City v LFC/City v Arenal games) going on a Jolly to the UAE to reg games in a league that the City owners run and everyone seems to be shocked that City rivals get screwed over in such games.

And anyone who thinks David Coote is a one off then, they are blatantly deluded. If there is one? there are others.

08 Nov 2026 20:02:17
A gutsy ball winning midfielder for Endo and a better left back than Kerkez and this team really could be something.

We were better than City and Arsenal for large parts of those games, when things click a bit more and we have a destroyer in CM we will be challenging again. Hope both come on Jan.

08 Nov 2026 20:22:45
Not totally getting the Kerkez hate. Sure he needs to improve and personally I think he will.

{Ed666's Note - it’s because he’s shite

08 Nov 2026 20:29:45
Not sure what player will take Endos minutes.

08 Nov 2026 20:51:39
I think we're at that level under the elite. And that's not a dig, just an honest observation

We've had teams in the best 3/4 in the world recently and I don't think we're anywhere near that

But can we qualify for Europe again and pick up a domestic trophy? Yes we could, and that would be a good season, something to build on.

08 Nov 2026 21:47:35
I think the Premier League champions are at a level under elite too though LFC8 so I do believe this title is winnable. Arsenal are scraping by unconvincingly but that can't go on forever, they will go on a bad run and we need to be there to take advantage.

We'll certainly have to play better than we did today I reckon 2 thirds of the league would've beaten us today we were just lucky it was Palace and they're rubbish. We got away with one.

I'll take Endo's minutes JK for half his salary. I guarantee the team won't be any worse.

08 Nov 2026 21:49:23
Kerkez has been better defensively for the most part, not without flaws, but I'd say only 1 out of every 5 crosses actually gets passed the first man, his delivery is awful most of the time.

{Ed666's Note - he literally can’t get worse. The man is a liability at best. The opposition target him because he’s softer than a fudge Sunday

08 Nov 2026 21:51:22
Hopefully Julian Ward can make a couple of changes to the squad in January. Iraola deserves that.

{Ed666's Note - I agree mate…AI does deserve that

08 Nov 2026 21:58:40
@LFC8, agree totally with your view.

In recent games that we lost, we were holding our own against City, we huffed and puffed against Arsenal and never threatened then and we were dismal against the Turks.

I'd say we are about 30-40% off where we need to be to get back to the level that Jurgen's team were playing at their best (which I think was from September - December 2019).

If we carry on going in the right direction, which by and large I think we are, CL qualification and, perhaps a League Cup or FA Cup trophy is achievable imho.

{Ed666's Note - That’s fair mate.

08 Nov 2026 22:15:02
BP 🤣 I'll let the club know.

Fully agree on Arsenal. They seem to be efficient over entertaining. I hope they can't carry on like this but I'm sure I saw the other day that they top the table of the last 3 PL seasons combined.

When you compare last years CL finalists PSG and them they could not be polar opposites of how they play or approach the game of football.

08 Nov 2026 20:29:52
You make a far point ed666 LOL.

{Ed666's Note - I agree mate 😁

08 Nov 2026 20:40:36
I've been a big advocate for Kerkez and really want him to do well because he is full of energy BUT defensively he just doesn't smell danger. He is caught out of position time and again, now I know that's sometimes because of tactics and the manager pushing him high and wide to receive the ball but as a defender you need to be constantly on the swivel and tracking your man and far too often he leave players drift over his shoulder.

The question is do we give him time? He only turned 23 so there is 100% room to grow into the role AI wants him to play and he showed it under AI before but the question is can he do it at the highest level and not mid table.

One thing today rightly pi**ed me off where his man ran off the back of him and he jogged back, never got close to tucking in and just pointed to the danger. I'm sorry but I want my defenders chasing back at the same speed our attackers go in the opposite direction.

I'm willing to give him time but mainly because we don't have an alternative with Tzimikas as back up.

{Ed666's Note - what is it with him and those slide tackles? There more annoying than Rio’s stopovers!!!

08 Nov 2026 23:20:06
the only midfielder in the middle (not 10) that we need to keep is nyoni. if we get the right one, in the mould that AI wants, its not endo that should be moved on for it.

endo can leave without a purchase, he hasn't played, really.

09 Nov 2026 06:52:02
We need a few signings if we have to be top four, but we also need to sell some bad signings and players who the manager does not trust. Chiesa and Endo really need to go unfortunately as they are wasting what few years are left of them.

Now to the bad signings, we really need to get rid of Frimpong. Leave everything aside and focus on getting him a new club in January. ;)

Kerkez should be replaced in the summer. We can either have Kostas as a backup or promote an academy left back if we have any good ones.

We need a central midfielder destroyer. Not sure if Camara is the one.

We need a left footed right winger. In my opinion we should have kept Salah for a year if we were not able to find any option in the market.

Roland is a warrior and a fan favourite, but if he is not going to be used as a CB, and we have Leoni coming in too, we need a proper RB who can deliver crosses.

09 Nov 2026 07:07:40
Was this Title winnable last year as well @Ris. because I am dead sure you beat the same drum "Arsenal are winning by unconvincingly and this won't go forever" last year too.

09 Nov 2026 07:46:03
Yesterday was one of the first times Araujo has been caught out a lot defensively. They were continually finding space and dangerous crossing positions on the left.

While he's done very well we do need to be looking at both fullback positions. Kerkez isn't great in defence or attack, and Araujo offers little offensively.

I'd like to see if either could improve with a settled winger in front of them. Barcola or Munoz on the right, not sure who deserves the left wing slot as no one's really played well there this season. Maybe Gakpo just edges it.

09 Nov 2026 07:51:27
Exactly what makes you think that Arsenal will go on a bad run, Rio? They are custom built for today's prem, they don't need to win convincingly, they can go ahead through a set piece and then defend for 89 minutes no problem, they enjoy doing that, they have been drilled to do that and they have the squad to do that for 90 minutes.

It doesn't really work in the CL but it does work domestically. Sometimes we have to give credit to their template of success even if we hate watching it, they have chosen a way of playing, built the ideal squad to do it and do it extremely well.

09 Nov 2026 08:43:02
The ability to defend as Arsenal do says a lot about the resilience of the team, and their mentality. It says more than a team that can attack but not defend well.

Unless there's an injury crisis I can't see them folding. They have enough squad depth to easily maintain their defensive form, and in midfield the same applies. They may lack a bit in attack, but they have enough to get a goal or two which is all they need.

09 Nov 2026 08:49:26
It doesn't really work in the CL

Didnt they get to the CL final last season after finsihing first in the league phase. Sounds like it worked ok.

09 Nov 2026 10:07:43
Clearview70, Stoke were known to be resilient as well, under Pulis, as well.

Hence to me, Arsenal play a very defensive system (with up to about 5/6 defensive outfield players) akin to Stoke City and they do not have a good defence because for the most part, they do not throw players forward. In fact, Arsenal fans were peppering Arteta for not throwing more players forward but since they won the title, that has gone away now.

Personally if you play with a majority packed defence in a defensive system, do you really have a good defence?

I don't think you have a good defence when compared to a team that plays a very attacking, open system and yet, finished with the best defence in the PL with 33 goals conceded and won the title at a canter with 99 points with the second best attack behind Sham City.

Like we did in 19/20.

09 Nov 2026 10:34:19
I don't like them or watch much of them Oli, but I do think they're very effective and good defensively. Unfortunately I think they'll win the league as well, it seems to be their time right now.

09 Nov 2026 11:15:19
Oli come on, they are an elite defensive team, I didn't know that you had to be good at attacking to be a good defensive team? In 19/20 we had the best defensive midfielder in the world, the best left back in the world, the best right back in the world, the best center half in the world next to one of the other best defenders in the league in Matip, and the best goalkeeper in the world, along with the most intense and coordinated high press in world football. Of course we were going to be elite at the back.

At the same time, other than City I would say the quality of the rest of the league wasn't as strong as it is now, we could go full throttle for 20 minutes in games, go 2 up and then just stroke the ball around penning teams into their own half, and those teams would just give up and hope for the best. That just doesn't happen in the Premier League anymore, no team dominates 90 minutes of football the way we did or City did.

Arsenal are under the cosh a lot in their games despite at the moment being the 'best' team in the Premier League, and they have to do a lot of defending, which you can't say we really had to do a lot of in 19/20, whenever teams bypassed our press Fabinho would be there to win the ball back or Virgil could behave like an entire back four on his own, and even when Virgil got beat Alisson was almost never getting beat on a one on one. We had the individual players to bail us out every time, whereas Arsenal's defensive approach is much more system based, plus their players down to a man are just really focussed on their job off the ball, they relish it and they love the dirty side of the game.

You have to commend them for custom building a team to suit the prem of today with all the man to man marking all over the pitch with big strong athletes in all 11 positions who have the technical ability to play football too.

08 Nov 2026 19:39:44
I really don't understand all this negativity around Isak. Lets be honest Haaland stands about about not doing much and yet we would love him to be at Liverpool. Salah did nothing unless he had the ball at his feet and even then he was past his best last season.

He didn't press or defend. As long as Isak is scoring goals that's what he was bought for.

08 Nov 2026 19:43:15
Stop all this logical wizardry talk Alwaysred 🤣.

08 Nov 2026 20:07:07
Thought he was Orite today me. Looked sharper than usual. Should've scored that 1on1 tho.

08 Nov 2026 20:08:01
7 in 9. Second only to Haaland. Going at just under a goal a game; will be 30 in all competitions at this rate. Isak is doing exactly what it says on the tin. Notable that Haaland and Isak don't have a single assist between them but, like I said, what it says on the tin.

I was thinking about this; it seems feasible he might score 20+ in the league and get close to 30 in all competitions and yet still not receive full approval from fans.

{Ed666's Note - he’s score more if he remembered what movement was

08 Nov 2026 20:43:53
Today was an odd game for Isak, at times he seemed more mobile than usual however for much of the game his movement was poor. It's hard to criticise when his goal return has been so good but I'm watching him play and I don't see the movement enough.

Where are the runs off the shoulder of the defender, he certainly doesn't bully the defenders and his hold up play is pretty poor. Again, hard to criticise when the goals are flowing but I want more.

08 Nov 2026 21:15:37
bit of chicken and egg, but if Isak can do nothing but score 30 league goals a season for multiple years then I guess he would have justified it lol

my sense is that he isn't the type of striker that we need for this system. But hey, happy with the goals lol.

08 Nov 2026 21:33:11
I saw Isak running back and defending against Palace. He put in a decent cardio shift for once. It was his forward runs that were missing.

{Ed666's Note - that’s like saying I went to see Oasis in concert and they were on stage but forgot to sing!

08 Nov 2026 21:53:15
Isak looks like that because the pressing structure is not there yet. Our average defensive line is still way too deep. The whole formation needs to push up more. The distances are massive at the moment.

{Ed666's Note - I’m not quite sure how the press is not mastered by now? They’ve had plenty of time to learn when to trigger and hunt..it leads me to believe the players are at fault because they can’t fathom the tactics.

08 Nov 2026 22:09:29
Because people recognise that if he was more active we would create more opportunities, which is pretty key because we're majorly lacking in creativity across the front line, we just don't look dangerous the majority of the time. Personally this is exactly what I expected from Isak and I don't see it changing too much right now. He's very much a fox in the box and always has been.

I think people need to realise this is also by design, Isaks is very much under instruction. We've got just 1 fit and capable striker at the moment and a ton of matches still to play. Let's not forget that he's really not that long back from breaking his leg (in the grand scheme of things), this is essentially his first properly competitive run of form since the 24/25 season, and our only other striker won't be properly match fit for a few more months.

We simply cannot afford Isak picking up unnecessary injuries, the club will protect its investment, and Iraola will protect his star player. I'm surprised he's not running around out there head to toe in bubble wrap.


Not to mention with hm being injury prone his output has always been tailored, even at Newcastle, there was always lots of walking between plays.

I agree, very similar in practice to Haaland but he can get away with it because of how physical he is.

09 Nov 2026 06:58:24
Isak is a very good goalscorer but isn't suited to the way the team should play. He probably cant' get stuck in and press aggresively and make the dangerous runs at pace the team wants and needs because of his susceptibility to injury and stop start acceleration is probably the main cause of his injuries.

Hopefully his run of scoring continues and maybe a big team come in for him in the summer, although as European football stands right now there aren't many with the funds to sign him at a price near to which we paid.

09 Nov 2026 07:40:11
Our press hasn't improved, which suggests the players just can't do it effectively, not that it's not being coached. Palace played through it easily yesterday which sort of renders it pointless. I'm not sure you can play a true press with Isak in the team, but I'd rather him in the team so I'd prefer we adapt the tactics.

09 Nov 2026 10:09:00
Spot on, Clearview. Our press is very disjointed at m so might as well ask Isak to just stay up there so we can find him.

08 Nov 2026 17:21:05
Afternoon Ed001
And fellow reds.

What do you think the issue is with Sobz at the moment? Last season he stood out in a poor team. He looked like he wanted to be on the ball and the driving force. This year he's not imposing himself on games. I'm wondering if he's carrying an injury? It makes no sense to let him play if he is carrying somthing. It's a long season.
Is he a sulking? Has his role changed that much? Surly a player with his quality can adapt and impose from any position?

Interested as to your thoughts.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think he enjoys having to be'positionally disciplined. I am sure he will get it if he wants it enough, it might just take time to click for him.

08 Nov 2026 19:10:50
I thought szobo done quite well today. His delivery from dead balls and open play excellent.

08 Nov 2026 19:22:52
Szoboszlai I'd sell because for my he doesn't suit the system. Macca and Gravenberch I'd also sell because we can definitely upgrade on them.

08 Nov 2026 19:27:01
Digger, I thought he was decent on the ball but struggled on the defensive side. In the first half in particular, we were just so open down the right. Gakpo was equally liable for that but expected dom to provide a bit more protection.

Hopefully he'll improve but right now we do feel more solid with Nyoni in ahead of him.

08 Nov 2026 19:28:24
There's a great player in Dom But the lad must seriously humble himself and start being disciplined on the pitch. If he doesn't, the club will move him on eventually.
That midfield as I said 100 million times is up for grabs. Tyoni certainly can grab a place but we need reinforcements.

08 Nov 2026 19:35:59
Trey looked slick today. Hasn't looked his best for a few games in my opinion, so it was epic seeing him back balling in that midfield when he came on.

{Ed666's Note - Super little cameo.

08 Nov 2026 19:50:37
Nyoni has a great future at the club.

08 Nov 2026 19:57:53
I'd be playing Dom in the AM position. He can start the press from that position and have pops at goal. Wirtz still needs some work to be up to the PL imo.

08 Nov 2026 20:15:10
In my opinion Macca has been our best player this season. Can't see why anyone would think of selling him.

{Ed666's Note - because he will regress into mediocrity when he gets his contract and will naturally decline because of age.

08 Nov 2026 20:30:45
Perhaps Ai has improved Macca.

08 Nov 2026 21:17:07
he balance in midfield isn't quite right for how Iraola deploys the two CMs.

I think Dom would play better next to Trey as he will drop deeper and connect the play, allowing Dom to drive. But when they play as CM pair the synergy isn't quite right.

It will take time and game learning to get it looking better as a pair and individuals.

08 Nov 2026 22:10:50
The Szobo/Macca combo in the pivot did not work at all. I mean, the amount of gaps in the CM position where Place were playing thru us for fun, was incredible.

As soon as Trey came on, it was a bit more stabilized because the kid simply knows his job, can read the game and simply has the ability at a basic level, to anticipate danger and snuff it out.

And in the press, were would press with the forwards, and the midfiledd and defence wouldn't follow which left us open for Palace to exploit. That is not a press. That is a fake press just to make it look like we are pressing whereas, we simply weren't. So much work to be done in this team, imo.

We won and I'll take the goals and points but seriously with the amoubt of issues this team possesses and with the way Iraola is trying to compensate because these are the players we have, any type of title charge or whatever, are wide off the mark.

{Ed666's Note - Exactly mate. Also when you watch Trey he holds his positions and instructs others to get into theirs if they leave a gap. With more experience, muscle and games this kid is going to be a mainstay in the first 11 for years to come. He has football IQ in abundance

08 Nov 2026 21:12:12
What Ed0666 said.

08 Nov 2026 23:09:26
I agree a lot of work to do, but from the glass half-full perspective there have been a lot of improvements already too.

Totally agree the press isn't organized yet. Isak is a huge liability and leaves a massive gap that the opposition can play through. Equally, Szobo is so wasteful in possession and slow to make a pass so if the press works and we receive the ball, nothing comes of it if Szobo gets involved which is why I just don't see where he fits right now. I also agree that he runs a lot but don't see that he contributes to the press because he rarely wins possession back.

09 Nov 2026 10:16:31
I agree with you overall, @Snugglepool and as a glass half-full guy myself, I love Iraola and I think if we get the players we need, he will excel. I am positive of that.

Cos if he can get the best out of a squad he inherited (with all the flaws it has) and is doing this well overall then, I am positive he will continue to do great work when we actually get the players his system needs.

Ed0666 re: Nyoni, this ain't rocket science if you watch games with your eyes open. We both see the same things Nyoni does and can do. They are that blatant. You bring in a Camara for ex. into that base with Nyoni and Macca in rotation, we can do bits because that will bring balance to the whole team and free up Flo to do his thing and combine with the forwards.

It's that simple, mate.

{Ed666's Note - Nyoni is the future now mate. He’s raw, liable to mistakes and won’t be consistent but he enhances a dysfunctional midfield so why not play him warts and all?

08 Nov 2026 17:47:59
Lol MU

What a weekend!

Chelsea lost
MU was given hope and now it's being crushed
LIV won away to Palace


What a weekend indeed😂😂😂.

08 Nov 2026 17:59:48
Seeing United in the relegation zone is very enjoyable.

Apologies as I know some posters don't like anyone mentioning United despite there apparently being United fans on here.

08 Nov 2026 18:09:23
Big win today. Thought first half we was quite poor, but Andoni got them in at half time and the second half got a lot better 👌🏻 up the reds.

08 Nov 2026 18:14:01
The downside is Carrick will be sacked.

08 Nov 2026 18:24:23
JK23 I read the post you're refering to as some posters expecting to win every game, perform at the highest level, etc every game, like Man United supporters do! Basically being arrogant, entitlled muppets!

08 Nov 2026 18:29:13
You had to go and put the mockers on it.

08 Nov 2026 18:32:14
They just drew so hopefully Carrick won't be sacked! It would be better for us.

08 Nov 2026 18:44:43
So if a stranger on the internet who posters will never likely meet has a different opinion albeit a slightly more negative one it automatically makes them an arrogant entitled muppet?

08 Nov 2026 18:54:09
Let's not kid ourselves, our fan base is no better than Utd's or any other set of fans.

08 Nov 2026 18:59:44
I actually don't mind Carrick at all, seems a thoroughly decent fella and if he was at any other club I'd want him to do well. He's at United tho, so I'm glad he got a win and a draw this season, it gives him a bit of breathing space, their fans a bit of hope but let's be honest, at United it's just an utter shambles from top to bottom.

08 Nov 2026 19:04:05
Oh JK23, you are a sensitive soul 🤣 He was saying that expecting perfection every game is something he expects from Man United supporters & I put the arrogant muppet part in!

Just because we have different opinions on his post, we will never meet (your words) so why are you so triggered? Relax mate, you are reading to much into the post & now my post!

08 Nov 2026 19:06:17
Rome, I don't know many clubs fans who would be so negative about being 4th in the EPL & right up there in the CL!

08 Nov 2026 19:11:05
He always has to have a dig at someone doesn't he.

08 Nov 2026 20:27:10
Yeah massively triggered mate.

08 Nov 2026 20:54:41
Apologies Thunderbird I shouldn't have called people arrogant entitled muppets or Man United fans.

08 Nov 2026 21:50:12
You are right in what you say, SzSz. You could also apply that rationale to last season as well, and this time last year this site was going into meltdown.

09 Nov 2026 10:09:13
It would still be in meltdown this year Rome. it just seems a lot of the guys that contributed to the meltdown last season seems to have gone off on holiday together and have no internet connection or mobile data.

08 Nov 2026 17:11:52
Long time reader.
One thing that is very apparent on this site is the amount of Man United fans.
When did we fall so low?
We have an amazing club, fans (majority), stadium, training ground and youth teams(pathway to first team), yet most on here moan about beating teams with supposedly poor players.


I get that some are sub par some games and some look like world beaters some games and vice versa but at the end of the day if Liverpool win consistently and with some level of improvement why are we moaning.
I can get as disillusioned as the next fan but every team wins or loses as a team.

08 Nov 2026 17:34:09
All Liverpool fans are the greatest fans in the world regardless of how they support the club.

08 Nov 2026 18:03:08
I just love to moan, Dan, and over the years I've become pretty good at it. At least I think so anyway.

{Ed001's Note - expert level Rome.

08 Nov 2026 18:24:48
What Rome said!😉.

08 Nov 2026 18:56:25
Thanks, Ed. I've got a smug grin on my face! Hope you're well, mate.

{Ed001's Note - all good mate apart from the sunburn. How are things with you?

08 Nov 2026 19:44:22
All good, thanks, mate. It will be a while before I get chance to get sunburn!

Keep up the good work.

08 Nov 2026 16:12:12
I'd like to see Manu Kone has played with Jaquet Hugo Barcola would give us more bite than Gravenberch plus during these poxy internationals at least half the team would still play together. Yes I know he's currently injured muscle tear but still rate him as a good replacement for Jones / Gravenberch.

08 Nov 2026 21:18:10
Isn't he injury prone? I would prefer Camara.

{Ed666's Note - I would prefer Camara but Kone is very good also