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08 Aug 2026 14:36:53
I expect ridicule from rival fans, but some of the comments I've seen from our own fans about Ronald Araújo online are excessive. Admittedly, I haven't seen it on this forum, but I have elsewhere.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion on a player's footballing ability, but some fans making derogatory comments about his past mental health struggles is nothing short of disgusting. Let's get behind the lad when he joins. He has a lot to prove, and there's no better player to help guide him than VVD.
Btw, I think the plan is to play Araújo at right-back of sorts, with Jacquet partnering VVD on the left. Kerkez will have licence to bomb forward, and when he does, we effectively revert to a back three with Jacquet at LCB, VVD at CB and Araújo at RCB.
Leoni will be eased in because he's recovering from an ACL injury, not because of any concerns over his ability.
08 Aug 2026 17:17:54
I know, I have read some fans on X and FB saying they hope he gets injured. What is wrong with some people? Why would you want any of our players to get injured?
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 18:02:31
The perks of social media are its anonymity.
You can be what or who you want.
Highly doubtful Liverpool fans hope he gets injured, but the one who says he is often isn't.
Wish him nothing but the best, and hope he excels at all he does!
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 13:56:32
I've never seen such a reaction to signing a player! Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the truth is none of us know yet how this signing will go. We have signed players for massive money with the world at their feet and it didn't work out. We have signed players for buttons and they done great. Let's just give the lad a chance.
08 Aug 2026 14:19:19
I remember people ridiculing the mere idea of signing Ousmane Dembele when he left Barcelona. Attitude and injury issues people said. Waste of money, made of glass, doesn't try, all he eats is McDonalds etc. 3 League titles, 2 Cups, 2 Champions Leagues and a Ballon d'Or later, those people look pretty silly now. Sometimes a change of scenery can be massive in terms of getting a career back on track.
Don't get me wrong, I fully understand why many people are cautious or a little bit underwhelmed by the Araujo signing.
But some of the reactions have just been a disgrace. Especially those mocking his mental health difficulties. To me it seems pretty clear that Iraola is having a huge say on our transfer choices. Munoz and Araujo both coming from La Liga is not a coincidence in my opinion. So let's trust in our new gaffer and see what he can do. 🤷🏻♂️
Agree35
08 Aug 2026 14:28:25
MK, agree on all of that. Interesting, both signings came out of nowhere, and both from Spain, so maybe the boss is having his say. Fingers crossed for at least two more.
Agree6
08 Aug 2026 14:36:18
Exactly MK, remember when we signed the best midfielder on the planet in Naby Keita. I was so excited, but he didn't set the world alight. Other signings like Milner on a free had me scratching my head. Of course I'd love us to sign 100mill players for every potion, but that's not realistic.
A top winger is the priority this year. Next summer we will probably need to replace VVD, so this signing makes sense. If he is, could we get him for less than 50 million. If not, centre backs will probably be priority and we can go after the best available.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 14:53:23
Not sure how close Iraola is to Bielsa, but you would hope they have spoken about the player.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:27:27
It's just babies. Children who only know how to socialise through social media. Unfortunately, it's the generation we live in. Should never have the platform to do so, but then we all read it.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 15:45:28
Do you all remember Gary McAllister, Andrew Robertson, James Milner? Give the lad a chance to put his boots on!
Agree8
08 Aug 2026 16:07:09
Keita is easily one of the most wanted players for us I ever saw on here and Twitter. Absolutely hilarious. New waves of fans every year without a f****** clue.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 16:10:39
I agree with you, Mks. Now I differ with the Dembele analogy cos trust me, Dembele was a train wreck and a half when he left Barca. And frankly, there were teams that were nowhere near him cos he was undisciplined, had attitude issues, used to miss training for diverse reasons, you name it.
And many clubs were right to stay clear of him back then.
Indeed, he has done well for himself esp. when PSG came in for him and rehabilitated him well, and credit to him for sorting things out personally. However, let's not make it sound like he and Araujo were in the same boat. They aren't. Just my take.
Cheers, man.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:56:27
The reaction from this site is nothing compared to what's on other social media platforms so I'd imagine the Eds had to filter out a few nasty ones. Some of the things I've read on other sites is downright disgraceful and I am disappointed at the reaction from the so-called fans. I can only hope Araujo and the other players don't read those kind of stuff
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 16:22:19
Adam, I echo everything you say. I shall be very diplomatic when I say that some of the reactions have certainly been a tad overboard.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 16:34:50
Dembele was transformed by Enrique. What a manager! However, not a player that should be used as a barometer.
I hope and pray Araujo works out and isn't costing us a fortune. I love it when we improve a player, but our recent loan agreements have to be considered.
It would be folly to expect him to set the world alight.
That being said, I know every supporter in the ground on match day will be backing him 100% for 90 minutes. That is the Liverpool way. Isn't that the point of this forum? To vent and discuss post-match?
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:39:47
Iraola was Bielsa's captain whilst at Bilbao, so it's fair to assume he would have sounded out Bielsa's opinion.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:48:50
Our loan signings since 2010 have been extremely poor and that's being generous. Not one of these was a success with Kabak & Arthur being particularly poor.
Arthur Melo
Ozan Kabak
Steven Caulker
Javier Manquillo
Victor Moses
Aly Cissokho
Nuri Sahin
Araujo has as many red flags as the Chinese Communist Party, discipline on the pitch, injury issues, far too rash and the number of mistakes he makes is concerning.
This is a desperation signing. Given that our midfield offers the defence no protection, his shortcomings are likely to be equally as exposed as Konate's were.
Agree1
09 Aug 2026 04:10:53
7 players in 16 years - it's an absolute disgrace. How the hell did we start winning trophies and playing great football - it's unbelievable.
Agree0
09 Aug 2026 04:13:00
Oh yes, forgot to say... stiff cheddar @Vik. Get over it.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 13:25:42
I've been pretty comfortable with the Araujo signing from the off.
Experience ✅✅
Age range ✅
Physicality ✅
Quick ✅
We're paying a proportion of his salary for a year, that's all we're committed to. Gives Leoni, Jacquet and Bradley time and space to recover and adapt to a new coach and a new league and it gives Iraola time to assess their capabilities.
Best case scenario : we've signed an experienced world class versatile defender at his peak.
Worse case scenario - we've just burnt 12m in wages.
08 Aug 2026 14:15:15
I'm with you, Ron.
And if we are paying a portion of his wages, the downside is probably less than £12m.
A few characters are popping out the emojis and continuing the narrative from FIFA.
Having an experienced player available on loan is, in my view, a good thing.
Now we just need to dovetail his and JoGo's time injured!
Agree6
08 Aug 2026 14:29:01
Ron, totally agree.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 15:57:51
Romano has reported that we're paying his full wages so that's about 1mil a month. Still nothing compared to the truly absurd fees we've seen thrown about this summer. And the option to buy is set at apparently 55m euros, so if he does well, that is quite a reasonable price for us to buy him at too.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 16:14:08
Agree with all the comments here. Araujo has question marks, and those are legitimate. That does not remove from the immense ability he possesses. There is no question.
All we have to do is to try to help Jim rediscover his former self physically and mentally in a new environment with a manager that actually wants him and a fan base that, regardless of our differing opinions on him, all want him to do well.
At least, I would think so.
I'm excited to see him play, and if we get to keep him then, that would mean he has held his part of the bargain.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 16:20:48
Even more excited to see Jim play.
Is it Beglin?
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:53:31
Jim Araujo - someone will be having that username by next week. 😁
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 20:49:05
Well, what do ya know, Ron & Zed? I may have just found Araujo a decent nickname without even trying.
Agree0
09 Aug 2026 08:04:31
LOL, Ron and Oli! 🫵🤣🤣🤣 Jim Araujo!!! Love it!!! 🤣🤣🤣💥
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 13:09:22.
Not Liverpool related but what are everyone’s thoughts on the spending rules in the PL?
Newcastle have seen Tonali, Bruno, Gordon and Isak leave over recent windows despite being backed by PIF.
Seems as though the rules are in place to keep the Big 6 in place.
And on Bruno G., how many midfielders does Arteta need?
Rice, Odegaard, Zubimendi, Bruno G., Merino and that’s without looking at adding in the likes of Eze or others could play as a 10.
Arsenal building from a position of strength?
08 Aug 2026 14:15:48
Arsenal showing how it's done, while we have Hughes who hasn't a clue what he's doing. Should have been removed along with Slot.
Agree7
08 Aug 2026 14:18:45
Newcastle's owners lost interest in the project a year into the ownership. The growth of the Saudi Pro League meant that Newcastle became less interesting to PIF.
It's unfortunate for Newcastle and their fans. I wouldn't be surprised to see them divest or even sell.
Agree5
08 Aug 2026 14:44:00
I've seen a lot of people complain that the rules are only there to help the big 6, which I really don't think is true. I can see why people would think that, as the rules are set in such a way that they don't help the lower clubs. I don't think that's intentional; I think it's an inherent part of trying to regulate spending. It's difficult to come up with a rule set that both limits clubs from just buying their way to the top, doesn't prevent fair investment, and also doesn't show favouritism.
People are complaining that PSR (or whatever it's called now) is unfair, but don't forget it's not long ago we were all crying out for regulation, back when Chelsea and City bought their way to success. You can't have your cake and eat it, apparantly.
Could we come up with a better system? Possibly, a fixed cap, a luxury tax, shared revenue, or tiered ceilings? I mean, 1 of those is a definite no for me.
I'm all for fair competition, but I can't see a set of rules that doesn't include some sort of system that is inherently tiered in a way that favours clubs with less revenue. Personally I'd be all for a better solution, but you have to see the issue. People will ask, 'What's the point in the rules if there's literally a different one for everybody?' And it's a fair question. People will also claim it's unfair that those who do worse get to spend more. So do we adopt some new pseudo-American standard that essentially nullifies a club's hard-working success or just go back to having a free-for-all, giving anybody the opportunity to just buy the league? It's not so easily resolved in my eyes.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:07:47
I don't think the PIF has lost interest in Newcastle, actually, but they came in at an unfortunate time, when spending is regulated, and they can't just pump endless money into the club like Chelsea and City did. They had to be a bit more strategic in increasing the revenue of Newcastle, which they have done slowly.
However, recent world events have also hit Saudi hard, which has limited the amount of investment they can pump into Newcastle or their own league for that matter, with the PIF forced to cut back spending in certain sectors in favour of others.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:18:31
Arsenal are buying their way into trouble. Odegard, Ese, Merino rotating for one spot seems like three unhappy players. Zubimendi won't get a sniff as long as Rice and Bruno are fit. And they'll accentuate their defensive streak, for sure.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 12:40:48
From Chat Gpt:
1. Back in the 90s, a loan signing like this wouldn’t even have interrupted the horse racing results. Now Liverpool bring in a mildly uninspiring player on loan and people react like the club has just sold Anfield for scrap.
2. In the 90s, this sort of signing barely makes a ripple. In 2026, Liverpool loan in a player who isn’t the reincarnation of peak Zidane and everyone starts drafting the club’s obituary.
3. Once upon a time, an underwhelming loan signing was just squad depth. Now, unless Liverpool unveil a galactico every five minutes, half the fanbase acts like civilisation is collapsing.
4. Back in the 90s, this would’ve been filed under “fair enough” and everyone moved on. Now, if a Liverpool loan signing doesn’t come with fireworks, a violin section and a 20-goal YouTube compilation, people think the sky is falling.
5. Liverpool signing an unremarkable loan player used to be the sort of thing nobody lost sleep over. These days, if it’s not a statement signing, people behave like the club has personally ruined fo.
08 Aug 2026 12:54:09
If we had paid £40million for him, people would say it's a bargain. Whatcha gonna do, huh?
Agree11
08 Aug 2026 13:06:59
Oh, look, another overly dramatic post about people voicing their valid concerns over a player's fitness due to his injury record.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 13:34:00
Chewy, it's not just voicing concerns, though. It's overdramatic reactions to us signing a stop-gap, squad player on loan, that may work out, may not.
And not just on here. The posts on Insta or FB are literally full of comments like "we sign an unknown cb, great", fans of football, those who don't know Barca's Captain.
Negativity is exhausting, and it's the behind the keyboard effect.
If we were chatting face to face or with your mates, most would have a normal debate. If we're fans, we all want the same thing. Simply put, he's obviously a good player to get where he is or was. He could be a great signing or not work out. Just like every player. We all hope he does.
The negative comments and bickering take the joy of footy chats and football as a whole nowadays.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 13:57:33
Stopgap like Caulker, Kabak, Davies & Melo? Because they were all absolute raging successes weren't they? I think there is fair reason to be sceptical about this given his ability, injury history and disciplinary record.
We've reached the Arthur Melo stage of the window. You go be as excited as you want about this, Kloppdog, but history would suggest this is another failure waiting to happen, so excuse me while I'm rolling my eyes at it.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 14:04:00
Victor, you're not allowed to mention previous loans.
Beckers will let you know what you can and can't post.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 14:24:06
Sigglebean, whilst I agree with your message, your delivery was quite dramatic and all 5 of those points were effectively the same point re-worded.
Some people are being dramatic about Araujo signing, but the answer to that isn't to be dramatic about people being dramatic.
Again, I respect and agree with the sentiment of your message, but it doesn't read how you thought it would, in my opinion.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 14:27:20
Unremarkable?
6'3, powerful physique, genuine pace, strong in the air, aggressive... ticks more than a few boxes.
27, in his prime years for CB, Captain of Barcelona in his mid 20s, used to highest pressure matches...more than happy with that!
Uruguayan, >30 international caps...you can be sure he'll have discussed with Nunez & Suarez.
And on a loan basis with option to buy if it works out...what's not to like?
Agree7
08 Aug 2026 14:48:29
Kloppdog, I would suggest that Sigglebeans' post is a lot more overdramatic than somebody who's whinging that we've signed an injury-prone player. In my experience, the drama seems to be caused by the people who point fingers.
I don't think somebody making a seemingly negative comment is dramatic, I do think people who decide to burn them at the stake for it are, though.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:07:56
@MK, that was the point, bud. I asked ChatGPT to give me a good joke about the loan, they were all the same but worded slightly differently. Couldn't be bothered editing them, so posted them all. It was meant to be. 🤣
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 15:20:07
I don't understand young people jokes anymore, Sigglebean. People under 25 call me "unc" or "uncle". Forgive me for not understanding the Chat GPT aspect of the joke then!
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:25:53
Ah, yea, I get that, but I got the humour in this post.
100% have the same concerns myself about if he will be a good signing. But I can't tell the future, so not gonna have a panic attack. Hope it works out. Could end up a masterstroke.
I don't fancy either Isak or Wirtz's chances of being a proper success with us, but they play for us, so, by God, I hope they rip it up this year and for many years and I'll keep the hope until they do or are no longer our players.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:37:33
@MK, Loving being called a young person, I'm 49 mate!! I think I might have got lost in translation cos I've had a few rums and the sun's nowhere near the yardarm! Peace and love x.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:45:32
@kloppdog, Don't know if you were commenting on the wrong post, but being a mixed race Scouser, I can assure you my post wasn't meant to be racist x.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 15:46:59
I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
He fits the profile of the type of stopgap player we need at this time. We need his physicality, as, let's face it, our defence and midfield at the moment are soft.
Having said that, he's not all too comfortable on the ball and prone to making high profile gaffes. Like I said in an earlier post, it's telling that Barca fans are ecstatic that he is going out on loan.
They don't rate him.
I think that explains why some fans are torn or a bit negative. Fingers crossed, playing next to Virg elevates Araujo's game. They might complement each other. Long term, I have a feeling either of Jacquet or Leoni would be a better fit. If we mimic Arsenal, we could even play him at RB with one of the younger lads partnering Virg. I'd prefer a specialist RB though.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:20:46
@Salahlalala, the truth always lies in the middle of any discussion/debate of this type.
The issue here is what people decide to focus on, and that, my friend, is a choice. Or, as you have done, use perspective. Like, you may have wanted a specialist RB, but since we need help in both RB and CB, you get the hybrid in Araujo, and kill two birds with one stone.
I can understand both views without having to choose a side.
Now, this type of approach is what is rare, cos it's like you have to pick a side, whereas, as you said, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 16:23:38
If he does well: great business, top shelf defender for a decent fee.
If he does OK: good business, lets AI ease Jacquet and Leoni into it during the season.
If he is crap: no sweat, lost £12 mil.
Shrewd move, I say.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 17:21:16
@singlebean, Don't think I said anything like that. Definitely didn't. Something mixed up somewhere.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 18:02:18
Oh, it was meant to be funny?! Wow. I'm not sure who failed worse here Sigglebean, ChatGPT or you for using it!
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 12:16:11
With Araujo impending, does that mean we'll have to confirm a non-HG sale to confirm Barcola?
Or I guess vice versa, depending which one is registered first?
08 Aug 2026 12:23:05
No, we can still sign who we like, it just means if we don't move on non-HG players, then we won't be able to register every player for every competition.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:32:43
Seems pretty likely to me that we'll be selling a fair few players soon. I think Jones and Gakpo will all be leaving in the next week, personally. Tsimikas, Elliott, Chiesa and Mac Allister going before the first game kicks off would not shock me either, though I think they all have an outside chance of staying.
We've had to hold off on sales to a) give Iraola a chance to assess the players and b) ensure Iraola had enough players for an adequate pre-season.
I'd expect things to really hot up now the first team players are all back from the World Cup and Iraola and his staff are back from the USA tour.
Keep in mind that you can change your squad registrations in January, so it's quite likely Ekitike will not be registered in the first half of the season anyway, then be added in January. He's not expected back until late December/early January so that makes logical sense to me and takes away the temptation to rush him back.
Agree7
08 Aug 2026 12:43:30
Sorry MK, but we were short at least 3 players coming into this window, we've brought 3 in, and now you think we're going to flog off 6? Where's the logic in that, if you don't mind me asking?
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 12:44:52
MKS, I think Tsimikas is staying as backup to Kerkez. The likes of Macca, Chiesa and even Elliott (who I want to stay) are gonna go.
Now, Macca and, say, Jones are strange ones, cos we may need the HG quota, hence Jones may stay. Macca has always said, directly or indirectly, that he would love to go play in Spain, so that's 50/50.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 13:08:52
Man.of.Todd, yup, I guess I expect that we're not going to be doing a Chelsea and have a squad of players chilling out enjoying their wages whilst not doing anything. :D
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 13:33:27
People get too worried about the non-HG/HG thing imo.
The way I see it is Jacquet and Leoni are U21s, along with Nyoni and Trey. If we sign Mbaye, he will also be U21.
Gakpo and Macca are possibly going to be sold this summer if the right offers come in.
Chiesa will likely leave if we get the two additional forwards in.
Endo and Tsimikas all have one year left on their deals. I think both are seen as players who could easily be sent out on loan for their final season, if we couldn't sell them, or got squeezed on non-HG spots.
Lastly, I would not be surprised if they didn't register Hugo Ekitike for the first half of this season.
In summary, we probably shouldn't worry too much as there's plenty of moves the club can make to comply.
The bigger concern is that our lack of English players does impact the club's allowance of "Elite Significant Contribution" foreign player visa slots. Clubs can earn up to 4 slots through total playing time of English Qualified Players (EQP).
Based on last season's appearances, we only qualified for one ESC slot, which allows us to get the visa for Mor Talla Ndiaye. Unfortunately, we couldn't get one for Iffy Ndukwe.
Arsenal, Chelsea, Villa, and Man Utd have four slots. Man City and Newcastle have 3 slots.
Trey Nyoni and Rio Ngumoha becoming first team regulars will help, but we clearly have a long-term problem that needs solving either via academy or recruitment of English talent.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 13:45:39
FPF - just something interesting to talk about, mate.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 13:46:51
We have Koumas & Chambers to offer HG status if Elliott and Jones leave. So no issue there.
Possible issue is if no Non-HG players leave, we won't be able to sign Barcola unless Ekitike's slot is taken while he recovers.
Hoping either Tsimikas, Ramsey, or Chiesa gets loaned out or sold to free a spot or two.
Mbaye is in the U21 bracket, so that's fine.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 14:02:23
RedKei, being pedantic. There is no issue with HG status for registration of the squad. We can have up to 8 and can have 0 if we want. What I did say was that it does impact your allocated slots for young foreign talent visas. That does impact the academy's role in supporting the first team squad.
As for Tsimikas, Chiesa, and Ramsey - I would be shocked if a £700m+ a year revenue generating business that relies on Champions League qualification would not sign the first team players they need because of those three players occupying a non-HG spot.
They would at worst simply not register them for the squad, or better sell or loan them.
Gakpo and Macca are a different situation as they are first teamers.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 14:37:12
Chewy, I said, I think we'll sell Jones and Gakpo. The other 4 I'm simply saying it wouldn't shock me either way.
1. Gakpo will leave and be replaced with Barcola in my opinion.
2. Jones will leave and we'll promote Nyoni in my opinion.
3. If Tsimikas leaves, I think we'd promote Chambers or Scanlon, but I'd also not be surprised if Tsimikas stays and Chambers and Scanlon go on loan.
4. If Elliott leaves, I think we'd promote Morrison, but again, Elliott could easily stay with Morrison going on loan.
5. If Chiesa leaves, I think we'll sign Mbaye or promote Koumas.
Equally wouldn't be shocked if Chiesa stays and Koumas goes on loan.
6. I actually think Mac Allister might stay and surprise a lot of people. However, if he is sold, I reckon we'd probably go all in for Wharton.
Those 6 senior players though, I think there are still varying levels of doubt about them being at Liverpool next season. There's still over 3 weeks of the window left, which is plenty of time to make 3 more signings, which is the maximum you'd need to replace those 6 as I see it.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 15:01:41
Probably about right, MK.
Although Macca staying would mean you have a new contract issue to contend with. It would effectively be accepting he will leave for nothing.
And you must not forget Endo.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 15:12:40
We have got a few players in last year of contract. Elliot, Jones, Tsimikas, Bajectic, Gomez, Endo, Vvd and Alisson.
I wouldn't be surprised if we listened to offers for Elliot, Jones and Tsimikas.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 15:14:11
FPF, I don't see any world in which Endo leaves. At his age, you're not getting much money for him. He's also not on a big wage. He's retired from international duty, so he'll be a great guy to have around the training ground in international breaks, when all the u21's come up to work with Iraola. He's also able to play RB, CB, DM and CM to a pretty good level. He is a leader and former Japan captain. His attitude is impeccable and he's a genuinely good person as well, which you can never have too many of at the club.
I just can't see the logic in selling him. Alisson, Virgil and Endo are the only players we have left over 30. The last thing we need is to be in the same boat as Chelsea with a group lacking leadership and experience.
I could be completely wrong, but I doubt he's even being considered for sale unless he kicks up a fuss to leave or a surprise offer comes in.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 15:27:31
MK, fair points. We don't really see what influence he has on the squad. We know he is ultra professional, but he is also a pretty quiet, shy guy from the looks of it.
Despite all those things, it doesn't get away from the fact he's the only DM in the squad and occupies one of the non-HG spots.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:31:56
I would agree there's doubt over all of them, yes, but contrary to your opinion, I would be absolutely astonished if we moved all 6 on, given the inflated market and short time frame.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 12:08:14
{Ed's Note - Lassic has posted a new article entitled, Why a Loan for Araujo Could Make Sense
08 Aug 2026 13:50:23
A very sensible and balanced article. May be a great signing and if stays fit could be just what is needed until the younger centre backs are fit and ready. Why spend a fortune on a centre back or right back that will block the path of other players. If he does well, can buy at £47 million, which could be a good deal if he's had a good season on loan. However, if he's injured or doesn't perform we send him back to Barcelona, costing only loan fee and wages, which in current transfer climate is really a drop in the ocean. Hopefully, any remaining funds after signing Barcola can then be used to buy what this team has been crying out for, which is a proper number six.
This, in my opinion will unlock the rest of the team's undoubted abilities. Thanks to all who share their knowledge and rumours, it is what makes this site so unique. I have been reading this site several times a day for 15 years plus but rarely post. I think a lot of posters need to remember it is a rumours site and to give all players that sign for this great club our full support to enable them to be the best they can. Thanks to all the Eds as well. Looking forward to enjoying watching the team again this season, last season was by far the worst to watch that I can remember in my 48 years of supporting the team!
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 13:56:55
Didn't expect my post to be turned into an article, but cheers.
Nicely edited down too, Ed. I appreciate that can be unintentionally long-winded. :)
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 10:58:22
Sounds like I am in the minority, but I am pretty excited by Ronald Araujo joining, even if on loan. Yes, he can be a little rash. Yes, there have been injury concerns. But the player has shown he can play at a high level, and is suited to play the high line that Liverpool will look to play.
Him and Virg together does feel like a strong partnership. Both capable of progressing the ball, either through breaking lines or long switches of play. Both tall enough to deal with aerial battles. And Araujo is no slouch, he can keep up with some of the quickest defenders around.
Plus, Araujo comes with something to prove, and we tend to buy those types of players and seem them flourish. A new environment might be just what he needs to refind the form that made people identify him as one of the best defenders around.
To me this seems like a no-brainer. I could be wrong, of course, and he gets injured stepping through the door of the AXA, with Jacquet following suit as he rushes to his rescue, but I can't see the future. In the here and now, he seems like a strong option to cover an area which needed real strengthening. And, we got that in Araujo.
08 Aug 2026 11:46:48
Miles better than Konate.
Agree12
08 Aug 2026 11:56:45
The future is Leoni.
An old school classic out and out defender. Strong, fast, aggressive, great positional sense, great game intelligence and leader on the pitch. You could just sense these qualities while playing for Parma. He is everything Konate was not.
Just wait for Leoni to play for us from September. He is the future. He is the next Virgil.
Agree12
08 Aug 2026 11:58:34
Totally agree, I'm excited.
Big strong lad, quick. 👌
Agree5
08 Aug 2026 12:01:04
I hope people get behind him and the lad does well.
Everyone was crying out for experienced cover at the back, and we've ended up with an international, current Barca captain, and at the right age. Low risk for the club too, given that it's a loan with an option to buy.
Baffling to me that so many people are being negative about it. Especially, considering quite a few people were on board with potentially taking John Stones on a free.
Agree8
08 Aug 2026 12:07:43
He will
play RB ahead of ping pong and will shock people. He is so well suited to the prem.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:11:14
The lad has proven himself on the biggest stage, there's no doubt he possesses the ability, although there's been a lack in consistency. Is he the ideal solution? No, but he's more than capable of doing a job providing he can stay fit. He has experience at the highest level, I have high hopes, but valid concerns.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:19:42
I agree, Mango, I'm very happy with him. U don't play for Barca for the length he has, and also captained them without being a good player. I was very impressed with him 3/4 years ago, I haven't seen a lot of him recently, but if he can stay fit he could be ideal.
No transfer is ever a dead cert, so he mightn't work out, but I think it's a good move by the club and badly needed in the area he plays.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:37:11
Real Madrid fans are probably thinking, regarding Konate, you don't play over 100 games for Liverpool unless you're a top player.
Araujo will have my full support, but I understand the concerns.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 12:49:15
Really excited to see him play, as well. I watched him a bit, and he was very good at Barca in the CL and La Liga, and won things as Barca capt.
And just so people know, it is not an easy feat to be picked to captain and lead that club. Araujo has had issues, and sometimes, a change of surroundings is just what is needed.
He has all the tools to play in an Iraola system and is proven to be a certified commodity in Europe overall.
Welcome, Ronald. Looking forward to seeing you do your thing.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 13:42:10
I am not mad at the signing. I can see the vision, and, boy, do we need some bodies in before the window closes.
However, I am mad that it looks like we didn't really plan for Konate leaving, and had to resort to taking this kind of risk so late in the window.
It really could go either way.
Big pressure for Andoni, Virg and Alisson to get this lad up to speed and comfortable in what is a transitional period at the club.
I would like to think that Andoni has spoken to Bielsa about this player too. And if anything, Bielsa will have been pretty honest in his assessment.
If it works out, then we have some player on our hands.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 13:50:36
I am very happy with his loan signing, not sure where the downside is!
Ireola wants him. That works for me!
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 16:19:16
FPF, I could be wrong, but I see Guehi/Jacquet as the plan the club had for Konate leaving. I think he had made known to the club that he won't be signing a new contract with us early on, hence why we tried to bring in Guehi and subsequently brought in Jacquet. So from my perspective, he had already been replaced.
Araujo was needed because Jacquet suffered an injury almost immediately after agreeing to sign for us and he has not been recovering well.
Add to that the injury Bradley suffered, and we crucially needed a CB who could also cover RB in a pinch. Araujo fits this almost perfectly. While there are rightfully concerns over his fitness, he is a good player who is brought in mostly as cover until Jacquet is ready to start alongside Vvd. I don't think he is brought in as a starter or a Konate replacement.
Agree0
08 Aug 2026 10:46:44
Our fanbase needs to humble itself. We just signed the Barcelona captain. I grew up in an era where our CB signings were Kyrgiakos, Coates and Wilson. Araujo is a very talented player, if that there can be no doubt. Rubbish players don't end up captaining Barcelona.
He's had injury and mental health issues, sure. Those mental health issues were allegedly exacerbated by the abuse he received from Barcelona fans after a mistake got them knocked out in the Champions League. He clearly wants a fresh start and he's probably looking at Liverpool (with our reputation of having incredible fans) and thinking he can find somewhere he can belong and be loved.
Please don't let Araujo down, everyone deserves a fresh start. He's very good friends with Darwin Nunez, who probably spoke to him before this transfer and will no doubt have told him about how unconditionally we supported him, even chanting his name when he missed a sitter.
If nothing else, he's a massive upgrade on having to play a midfielder at CB for the opening game!
08 Aug 2026 10:55:32
Mo Scouser, I am with you. He seems a good signing. I think people are just over concerned about him just being another sick note... However, he seems like he could be a clever signing.
I would like a rb and two more forwards and assuming no midfielders leave, I think we will be in a pretty good position.
Agree12
08 Aug 2026 11:05:06
100% agree, MK. Iraola knows La Liga, his teams would've played against him. No doubt he'd have talked to Bielsa about his character, etc. Like Munoz before, I think Iraola would be heavily involved in picking this player. Wages would be similar to Konate if he'd have renewed his contract.
Agree8
08 Aug 2026 11:05:07
Captain? Keane at Utd in the 90s? Adams at Arsenal? You're a top poster, MK, but this Barcelona captain tripe is ducking delusional. This will not end well.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 11:09:53
MK, were you being tongue in cheek when you said incredible fans?
Agree13
08 Aug 2026 11:11:58
Great post, MK.
We've seen multiple posts on here that we need defensive cover and skating a lack of activity in getting an experienced, older head in to help the YLFP and the YLFR.
Now that the club have addressed that issue- without spending big on a transfer fee- the player is already getting pelters despite not playing a single minute for us yet.
The mind boggles.
Agree13
08 Aug 2026 11:15:07
Some of the takes on here have been ridiculous about this signing. He's a really good player. Not perfect, nobodies perfect, but it's the type of signing that will not block Jacquet if/when he is ready.
Agree13
08 Aug 2026 11:16:29
100% agree. Re: Humble ourselves, mate.
For the past 10ish years, we have all been fortunate enough to support the 2nd most successful team in England (Behind City).
We've won everything, expanded Anfield, built one of the best training facilities in the world, and seen some incredible football, yet for some reason, people still aren't happy.
Maybe if we can find some owners who spend more money than anyone else, hire a manager who has never lost a game in his life, 11 players who all share the Ballon d'Or and Golden Boot between them every season, and go on a winning streak and never lose a game ever again, we might be ok, ha.
God help people who have to support any of the other clubs - poor sods, ha.
Agree11
08 Aug 2026 11:18:15
Well said MK. 👏
Agree8
08 Aug 2026 11:23:39
I agree, MKS. Personally, I have not seen Araujo play in about 3 years. Before then, I saw him play and he was immense for them, esp. in that 22/23 season when Xavi won them the title. I remember the return El Clasico at Camp Nou where he was the first CB up until then that I had ever seen to not shut down Vini Jnr but to stay step for step in a straight line race for the ball. It was unbelievable to see.
Now that was then. Haven't seen him play since. The mistake? Well, that can happen (we would know, btw), and things can get toxic, and his injury issues will only make the mental issues worse.
For me, this is just a case of the player needed to go to a new environment, and with LFC popping up, Araujo would have had a chat with Suarez and one of his best mates in Darwin.
Also, it is a loan deal, hence there is very low risk. He is very experienced and has won things with Barca, esp. as captain for that matter. He can play the CB/RB role (which is what we all wanted) and other upsides. Yeah, it is a risk, but what signing is a sure thing? None. So I'm here for it and we can move on to other essential targets. Hopefully, the Barcola deal gets thru and we go from there. Excited for the season, regardless.
Agree10
08 Aug 2026 11:23:56
Mk, hope players never read this site at the moment, as we would sign absolutely no one. Best fans in the world? Really starting to doubt that.
Agree8
08 Aug 2026 11:27:46
Longest serving Madrid and Barca players get captaincy, my Barca supporting mate tells me?
I'm just happy we got a body in that covers 2 positions if needed.
If he's s****, he be gone, we don't have to buy.
He had plenty of bite in him, our team is full of soft arses, and we need that nasty bite.
I'll back him, hope he proves me wrong.
All non home grown spots are covered now, so who goes or gets unregistered????
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 11:31:47
Agree with Florian, there's a few on here pushing a little toxic positivity, for want of a better term, acting like we're all going to start booing the chap from day one. And talking like we poached Barca's best, "Barca's Captain." Barca of all teams, where they essentially have 5 captains... 9 people wore the captain's armband for Barca last season, I mean, the system is so backwards that the title has almost lost all meaning, they might as well pull straws before each game to see who gets it.
People's main concern with Araujo is his fitness, which is a completely valid concern, as he's missed almost the exact same amount of days on average over the last 6 years as Joe Gomez, slightly more in fact. If he stays fit, great, if he doesn't, expect a few "I told you so's." But for the love of Fowler, stop acting like he's going to be met with resounding boos on his debut. He will be cheered on just the same, and his name sung from here to Timbuktu.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 11:33:18
Florian, same Keane who let his team mates down 13 times via red cards, the same Roy Keane who literally thought he was bigger than his country when he abandoned his team mates and staff at a World Cup, that Roy Keane? Tony Adams, the same Tony Adams who got sent to prison, that Tony Adams?
Give it a rest, mate, the guy hasn't stepped foot in Anfield and you've already written him off. Don't tell me that you have never been crap at a job because of issues outside of your control. Anyone over the age of 40 has been through that.
He clearly is a decent player looking for a fresh start, maybe you could do the same and stop bashing players before they have even kicked a ball. Better still, pick up the phone, give the Liverpool recruitment team a call and offer your services, maybe then the rest of us can bash you before you start as well?
It's ok to express an opinion but to publicly trash him like that is just wrong, mate. Give him some respect, support him and let's see if he can help us out.
Agree7
08 Aug 2026 11:37:14
I'm just doubting his fitness. The Premier League is tough, and I really don't think we need another player that can't cope with the day in day out pressure of the English game.
Agree2
08 Aug 2026 11:43:04
Is choosing to support one of the biggest, most successful clubs in the world fortunate?
Anyone who did that with Utd, Chelsea, or City is regarded as glory hunting plastics.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 11:46:19
Not sure it's booing from day one as much as it's booing from day -15.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 11:48:51
No, I haven't ever been crap at a job because of issues outside my control. It's called real life. You slate Roy Keane to justify Araujo all you like. Maybe I'm a horrible person, but in my opinion Barca have passed their £240k a week problem onto someone else. Hopefully I'm wrong.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:28:56
Great post Mk, most of your posts I agree with. Usually find myself reading them and agreeing with every word before I've seen it was posted by you! We have 2 of the most promising young centre backs around, so this signing makes perfect sense until they get fully fit.
He's probably 4th choice when everyone is 100% and people are complaining. Most must have forgotten the days we sign far worse players as starters.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 12:29:07
Well said, MK. When you reflect like that, you remember how far we've come!
We have VVD. And we have two very good young centre backs - Leoni and Jacquet.
Araujo gives us:
- cover at centre where we really needed it.
- experience to offset the youth of Leoni and Jacquet.
- leadership skills (ex captain).
- no large financial commitment on a transfer fee.
He doesn't need to be a world beater. He improves the squad.
Agree4
08 Aug 2026 12:29:38
After my initial tirade upon hearing about the Araujo signing and after reading the regular posters and Eds comments I can see both sides of these discussions. The club is in need of top level dependable players in defense like Kounde and Zabyarni who were both mentioned previously as strong options. As a club we don't need to fumble about for mediocrity as we can buy the best. I, and others here just don't think we've done that with Araujo. He might end up being great but people are rightly concerned about his fitness especially coming in to the EPL. The last thing we need is another defender consigned to the physio room for a period of time.
I am aware injury can happen to anyone at any stage but to employ somebody with a dubious fitness record is just starting out the wrong way and we've been here before! I get it that he may be a really decent player and a fresh start as ED01 says may be the making of the man but we didn't need to go down this road. Anyway Now that he is here, I and I'm sure all here, are wanting him to succeed and hopefully he does. IMO it's an underwhelming appointment to say the least and only time will tell if this is the right choice or not. Hopefully I'll be back eating my words.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 12:46:09
Well said, Shankly.
Agree1
08 Aug 2026 12:58:20
Shanjly's, I agree with your sentiments and concerns. Those are normal concerns to have, and even though many people are positive about this signing, I do not write off such concerns cos I think these posters have them, as well. Like I do.
For me, I think people make a choice to either focus on the positives and negatives on any topic. While others can see both sides, understand them, and still remain cautious. That's just perspective. Something you have demonstrated here, and so do others, hence why I agree with your overall view.
For Araujo coming in, it just signals that we simply could not buy the guy we wanted, or they just see it like, "If we're gonna spend all this dough for a CB to come in as an early VVD replacement, this market ain't it. Hence, we get the CB/RB cover we need for this season and go from there." Sometimes it is that simple.
Enjoy your summer, my guy.
At least, we can move on.
Agree3
08 Aug 2026 15:57:45
You too, Oli. And everyone else too!!!
Agree0
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