Liverpool Banter Archive November 15 2015

 

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15 Nov 2015 22:42:06
Following the Pool since 77. Grew up with their dominance and grown older watching false dawns and near misses with some great moments thrown in for good measure. What I would hope for under JK would be steady improvement, complete commitment and realistic expectations. We are playing on an uneven pitch and will need to be patient regarding consistent title challenges. After the wait we've had a few more seasons won't kill us. Constant change won't get us there. BR and his squad came close with the title in our own hands with 3 games to go. But alas it was not to be. If JK can get his team to perform as entertainingly as he does himself whilst bringing us forward I'll be happy! YNWA.

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16 Nov 2015 00:07:22
So what are your realistic expctations? challanging for the title in two years? three years? I love Klopp but I don't see us challanging to the title in the forseen future without signing one or two top class players and it will be hard to bring those unls syou are lucky enough to bring someone who is not established yet but is a Suarez in waiting.

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16 Nov 2015 02:55:14
I think the "realism" of expectations for Klopp will depend on the kind of backing he gets in the next few transfer windows.

After backing Rodgers with tens of millions of GBP for the last few years, FSG may be fairly cautious in spending a lot for acquisitions in the next while.

If we are conservative in our player acquisitions, due to limited funds, then I think we need to adjust our expectations accordingly.

I think it's realistic, at the very least, to expect improvements in playing and standing in the next two seasons. That may mean at least challenging for top 4. I think challenging for title is a longer term goal, and will depend on smart personnel moves and player acquisitions, including some financial backing from FSG.

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16 Nov 2015 05:02:42
Surely the answer is to even out the pitch. A new groundsman could be our best signing this season.

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16 Nov 2015 05:08:20
This is pretty much where I am. Klopp needs this season to establish the mentality and structure of the team. When the foundations are laid we can then look to add to the ranks with a couple of key first team signings and move forward.
The last couple of windows were scattergun with too many pieces not fitting the overall identity.

Don't want to see another 4 attacking mids without wingers etc.

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16 Nov 2015 07:32:40
When does klopp need $ to to achieve anything? All his past achievements are done with little or no budget, y else u think fsg will want klopp so desperately?

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16 Nov 2015 11:32:13
I think we have a really strong squad already, with the potential to be truly great in 2yrs with Klopp's training methods taking hold, one or two key additions (eg GK), Coutinho/Firmino/Moreno having matured, and the patience to allow the likes of Ibe, Ojo, Rossiter, Markovic, Illori, Kent, Chirivella to come through.

Hold the line would be my approach, let's give a couple of seasons.

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16 Nov 2015 15:27:42
In Germany Klopp had to beat only Bayern for the title. England is a different ball game. we have nearly 5 teams competing on a regular basis.

He was bought to utilize the current squad which is worth over 300 mill on paper.

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16 Nov 2015 18:06:46
NOPE, in Germany when klopp took over Dortmund they were a level or two below the likes of Hamburg, Schalke, Leverkusen and Werder Bremen who all were bigger clubs at the time. The reason Dortmund are what they are today is because of Klopp.

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16 Nov 2015 20:32:40
Agree with much of what's in the replies. I think top 4 should be achievable in the immediate future. I see a lack of quality with the top teams (look at Chelsea this year) . I think we were unlucky that our good season with Suarez didn't come the year after city's first title as I think Utd fell in for a softish one there. Consolidate as a top 4 team for a couple of years then kick on. I think JK has every chance. Hopefully we'll entertain along the way and maybe get lucky here and there with the cups.

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17 Nov 2015 03:42:35
I think we have a good squad atm, not the best but pretty strong. I think Top 4 is achievable with the current squad however not an easy task we would need to play very good football and maybe get a few lucky things happen like a shock loss for a team, few decisions etc just how footy is!

to challenge for the title i think would take a while to get Klopps methods drilled into the players. A few of the more avg players released and a few top players coming in! Not to say the top players have to be really expensive Klopp and his team have a knack of finding gems, but i look at certain players in the squad and think we need an upgrade in that position to really compete with the likes of city and chelski when they are at very top form!

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15 Nov 2015 22:11:21
Hi ends hope you're all well, I know you've already given your opinion on an Alonso return but the echo have just reported that he may well return, I haven't seen him play this season but I've heard he's still playing well so why not have him back as a free agent? I know we can't look backwards at old players but if he's playing well still and he's a free agent then why not?

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{Ed002's Note - I have already answered this.}

15 Nov 2015 23:23:51
Love/loved alonso as a player for us, pure class. If he comes back or not to me depends on if he fits the managers plans. Nothing to do with him being an ex player but if or if he doesn't sign should depend on if he fits our managers plans and benefits the team.

If Klopp things having a player of his ability and experience can help the squad in the long run or near future happy days. if bought to appease fans or of nostalgia then is the wrong call.

Has been mentioned by eds (and to an extent agree) we look too far in the past, but if any player (regardless of age or history with club) can make us better or benefit off then all for it.

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16 Nov 2015 15:31:06
We should have bought him a couple of seasons ago when he was available for a mere fee.

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15 Nov 2015 17:28:59
With all these questions about players to sign, most of them in the German leagues and relatively young. I know we need a keeper, but players like el ghazi sane neves may be top quality one day but if we do sign say one or maybe two in January if we're lucky, we need to add quality to definetely improve the team. I think we are okay attacking wise for now, and shouldn't spend big on a young players, maybe in the summer if we sell players like markovic (which seems likely but not my choice) Allen Milner, a centre back or two. But now, if we can, just a top good player to improve the team will do for me, even if we do sell some.

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{Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath too much for January.}

15 Nov 2015 19:07:54
Rues and ter stegen in by Jan the 5th, nailed on!

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16 Nov 2015 18:07:27
You will be waiting a lifetime for reus and ter stegen, never ever happening.

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15 Nov 2015 09:25:16
Hi Eds, just been looking on Physioroom. com at our long list of injuries (10). A lot of knee injuries there. Couple of questions if I may:
5 players are claimed to be due back on 21st Nov. Does this mean available to play or ready to train?
A lot of knee injuries in that injury list, is that just bad luck or result of specific training practices?
Lastly do you know how accurate PhysioRoom are with their info, and where they get it from?
Thanks a lot
RedTed.

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{Ed002's Note - (a) Available for selection. (b) It is very common for players to have knee injuries. (c) Clubs release press releases each week and wrap up the progress with injuries - they use that and they will speak with the medical staff at some clubs (at least two I know of, and probably others), although others forbid their staff from discussing injuries. So they will be pretty accurate. All I can report is what the press releases say and I really don't have the time nor inclination to do so.}

 
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