16 Apr 2024 12:45:07
Klopp's biggest problem has been Guardiola and the players he has at City. But I reckon Guardiola would say his biggest problem whilst at City has been Klopp and his Liverpool team.
16 Apr 2024 13:45:22
So true.
16 Apr 2024 15:57:13
Absolutely, Rigsby. Klopp has beaten Pep to win trophies or has won trophies before he did. Also, Klopp has the best head to head vs Pep out of any manager Pep has faced. He made the City/ Liverpool games evenly matched despite all the disadvantages he had. Klopp gets all the credit for that as well as the players.
Klopp and LFC have given Pep and City fits thru out their time in the PL and yeah, Pep won more BUT that is expected cos he is well, given more. But Klopp's trophy record at LFC is what a lot of these rival fans would kill for so in the end, Klopp is his kryptonite. Just my take.
16 Apr 2024 16:31:55
I wonder for how much longer Guardiola will stay at City.
{Ed002's Note - Not too much longer.}
16 Apr 2024 16:34:41
Just think, had we not won it in 2020, City would be going for seven in a row! Klopp deserves huge credit for that. And had it not been for Guardiola and the money at City we could be going for our fourth title under Klopp. We might have had two more CL trophies were it not for Real Madrid, too.
I just can't help but look at what Klopp has achieved for us and what we are up against rather than what he didn't achieve.
One of the reasons we are all so disappointed is because of the expectations we now have under Klopp.
16 Apr 2024 17:11:12
That sounds like something is afoot for this summer. ?.
16 Apr 2024 18:12:00
Speaking way too much sense, Rigsby. Stop it!
17 Apr 2024 09:27:46
What advantages does city have may I know? About to win a treble with Rodri, Kovacic and Mateus Nunes lol. They have a flop GK, A flop Grealish, An injury prone KDB, an overrated Foden and An overrated walker (accordint to this page) .
Pep would win atleast 3 PL titles with a prime Fabinho, Salah, Mane, Bobby, VVD, Alli, Robbo and Trent.
More importantly Guardiola wouldn't let his assistant to run a football club. he ofeten gets criticized for over complicating while royally ignoring how Klopp is obsessed with playing the iverted nonsense.
18 Apr 2024 00:34:14
Beekeeper you are missing the point.
Guardiola would never have had Salah, Mane, Bobby, Firmino, Robbo or Trent. They were all bought on a budget or from the academy and turned into great players. He would’ve signed proven world class players for much more money because he had it to spend.
He might have signed Ali and VVD but he wouldn’t have had to sell one of his best players in order to do it.
It’s absolutely undeniable that any City manager has had a huge financial, competitive advantage since the sheik took over. Before Pep, City won the league with Mancini and Pellegrini. Before Klopp Liverpool had one decent season in 2013-2014 where we came close but other than that we were generally 4th to 8th place in the league.
Klopp took us from relative obscurity with the odd decent cup run, hoping to get into the top 4 every season to the best team in Europe.
Pep took an already brilliant City team, spent loads of money on it and won more stuff.
There’s no comparison between the two.
18 Apr 2024 09:12:46
You don't know about City's funds then, Beekeeper?
How did they end up with Rodri, Kovacic, Nunes, Ederson, Grealish and Walker? I notice that you conveniently left out Bernardo Silva and Harland. Two of their most influential players this season.
If you think Guardiola would win at least three PL titles at Liverpool then I could agree with you because that would mean he wouldn't be City boss and that was one of my points.
The other point being the money that he has had to spend which you also proved by naming just some of his big money signings.
I stand by my assumption that Liverpool could easily have won two more PL titles had City not had Guardiola and had he not had the money he has spent.