Liverpool Banter Archive November 22 2010

 

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22 Nov 2010 23:46:28
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Just watching the 2005 season on DVD here pitty we couldn't mix our team beteween then n now what would ur best team be Ed from 2005 to now hers mine reina, finnan, sammi, carra, rise, kuyt, gerrard, alonso, luis Garcia , baros, torres it's great looking at this DVD but it also makes me sad who would be ur team {ed's note - I would go with Reina, Finnan, Sammi, Carra, Riise, Hamann, Alonso, Kuyt, Gerrard, Garcia and Torres.}

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22 Nov 2010 23:42:51
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Where do some of these rumours come from I have no idea! Absolutely ludicrous! Johnsons learning Spanish?!?!? Ffs if he was he wouldn't let nebody knw because the media would make a massive issue out of it. And how on earth do you know? I reckon some people wake up in the morning and think "oh johnsons supposedly had a fallout with the gaffer. That must mean he's bought a house in Spain, got a Barcelona tattoo on his * * , signed his wife to learn bellydancing with shakira and started to learn Spanish!" * * heads learn to post relevant material. Oh and btw pepe reina had a s* t yesterday and it came out in the shape of fergies face. Ahhh! :O

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22 Nov 2010 22:34:48
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I asked this question in response to an earlier post, and been trying to google the answer with no luck.

Any one know when was the last time Liverpool had negative (-) goal difference after 10 or 15 games?

Has it ever happened before - since our promotion from the second division- ?

Roy

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22 Nov 2010 22:31:45
Do your research people. PS: This post was aimed at both above.

Look back in the archives BUDDY!

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22 Nov 2010 22:21:43
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ha can we stop calling it the top 4 just say " i think we will finish 4th ".
lol

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22 Nov 2010 22:20:28
Can evrybody stop postin any f* *in rumour abt mediocre
players like charlton cole, gervinho &so on.
we av young players who ar far better dis mediocre players roy is bidin 4, d only difference is dat we don't expose our young players like suso, pacheco, ayala, mavinga, kelly, ngoo e.t.c.
I ll like our team 2b like dis in jan
GK reina CB Cahill agger LB aurelio RB kelly MF meireles gerrard LW A.young RW adam johnson AM honda CF torres.
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You tell us to stop talking about average players yet you put forward Ashley Young's name? Who would cost £20m, and is one of the most over-rated players in the PL? LOL.

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22 Nov 2010 21:57:47
Can evrybody stop postin any f***in rumour abt mediocre
players like charlton cole, gervinho &so on.
we av young players who ar far better dis mediocre players roy is bidin 4, d only difference is dat we don't expose our young players like suso, pacheco, ayala, mavinga, kelly, ngoo e.t.c.
I ll like our team 2b like dis in jan
GK reina CB Cahill agger LB aurelio RB kelly MF meireles gerrard LW A.young RW adam johnson AM honda CF torres.
BENCH-suso, pacheco, wilson, amoo, gulasci, jones, kuyt, mavinga, ayala, babel, lucas, ngog, jcole, carragher + 1 back up 4 torres, i can't figure out any strike but i know comoli ll get d right player.Poulsen & co should b offloaded/ released bcos dey don't deserve a red shirt.
PROUD KOPTITE

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22 Nov 2010 21:52:09
Ed - It's been this way for many a year now. Only the cream ever rise above the reserves at a top club. The Gerrard's/ Carra's etc. The rest, rightly or wrongly will be dispatched to play for Barnsley, Forest without perhaps a real good opportunity.

There is a difference between having a good reserve season and getting/ breaking into the first team to having a First team coach who will not under any circumstance give them a decent chance.

All the kids need more than 2 or 3 excellent games to justify breaking into the first team squad.

The rest will be used, abused and thrown onto the scrapheap. Scores of players have often made it after being discarded by clubs. Beardsley springs to mind.

You need to be special to make it as a youngster now. Wilshere for e.g

Bob the Red {ed's note - or at the right club, I have seen nothing in Wilshere in his international performances to raise him above the level of Pacheco in the past. Yet he is getting regular football in the first team of his club. You only have to see the likes of Hammill being allowed to leave without getting any chance of proving themselves to realise something was wrong. When your club is crying out for wide players and you let him and Anderson go within a short space of time, without any opportunities to see if they could be those wide players, then you have to wonder why we even bother with a youth system? Even if they fail to make the grade playing against the weaker Prem teams, they will still have upped their sale value massively because of a few Prem appearances. You can get much more for a youngster with 10 Premier League appearances than you can for one with none.}

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22 Nov 2010 21:45:25
"Roy Hodgson hailed the 'mental strength' of Christian Poulsen after the midfielder produced one of the best performances of his Liverpool career so far against West Ham." (source LFC TV)

Really - one game - against probably the only team in the EPL worse than Liverpool FC away from home, the youth team would have put 3 past them - but typical Roy, we move into the 2nd half and cannot find the net game - sound familiar?

I really do hate doing this as even with Souness it never crossed my mind to condemn the manager but Roy Hodgson is a disgrace, there is no point getting all frustrated and angry in the last 2 minutes against West Ham - do that in the changing rooms behind closed doors. Your antics are not worthy of our club.

PS - get Johnson out of our club too - we have some bright young talent and people like him around the club will ruin it.

RED PADDY

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22 Nov 2010 21:23:36
{ed's note - I do watch every ressie game mate, there isn't one player in our first team playing well enough that you can say they deserve to keep their place. That alone says that someone from the reserves should get the opportunity to replace them, but you can't judge them on how they play in those matches, it is not like the old days when the reserves were competitive. They are just training matches now and of little use for anything other than to get players fit. By the way I just have to remind you that Pacheco actually played well against Blackpool.}

Yes fair comment Ed. And i do believe more should get a little more opportunity, even if it is just on the bench etc. Mavinga etc. The comment about watching more reserve games was aimed at most who clearly have never seen a reserve game.

I have to disagree about the motivation of playing a reserve game. Whilst the likes of Gerrard et al will only ever use these games to get a little bit of match fitness, the rest it is their only opportunity to progress and ensure they are worthy of a contract.

And don't spoil the Blackpool game Ed i aint watched it yet! !

Bob the Red {ed's note - I agree on what you are saying about the ressie games, they SHOULD be more competitive. The unfortunate thing is that the players are all youth team players and know they have no chance of a first team match. How do you suggest motivating a lad that knows he can have the game of his life but still not get a chance? Even in the event of an injury crisis he knows he will just get dropped back to the stiffs as soon as an experienced player is fit, no matter how well he plays. That needs to be changed mate, or it will always be just players strolling through training matches.}

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22 Nov 2010 21:13:22
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Please post to Banter. Seen this, and as the window is approaching, thought you might like a laugh about football transfers and the real cost of a player. Remember Ibrahimovic going to barca for Eto'o and 40m? Barca sell him a year later (one year loan with a view to an 18m sale) and this is why. . From blogger Swiss Rambler's site:


"Actually, that raises an interesting question: if Ibrahimovic had stayed at Barcelona, how much would this have cost the club in total?

Before I give you the answer to that question, I advise you to take a seat. Sitting comfortably? The figure is a jaw dropping €163 million, which is made up of three elements: €70 million to buy the big fella; €75 million in wages (€15 million times five years); and an estimated €19 million in bonus payments. Looking at Barcelona's accounts, we can see that a very high proportion of their salary costs actually comes from variable compensation, i.e. bonuses paid out for success on the pitch, so I have assumed that this would be 25% of salary (which is possibly on the low side, given the last two seasons).


Barca got their lower arms burned off on this deal. Shame! :)

ferd

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22 Nov 2010 21:06:20
What do you think of the idea, kenny dalglish as manager with carragher as his assistant, with the view to take over season 2013. he's already slow in his play but has a great football knowledge. and knows the type of player liverpool require?

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22 Nov 2010 21:01:07
Hi Ed, Excellent site. The only down side is the amount of negitive comments. I personnally believe the mighty LFC will finish in the top 4, I think we have both the drive and quality of player to achieve this. Please lets be positive, we have a wonderful club with a wonderful future. .Rome wasn't built in a day.

On a different note I was in Boston last week and got speaking to a few Red Sox fans who have nothing but praise for John Henry and NESV, the one quote that sticks out that I remember was "he always gets what he wants". . . .Good time ahead kopites.

Rednose

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22 Nov 2010 20:55:22
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For our winger/ striker, why not bryan ruiz! 12m, versatile, fast, good left foot. we were linked with him in the sumer don't no why we dropped the interest tbh.

Ruiz 12m
Honda 11m
Lopez 14m
M'Vila 7m
Total:44m

Poulsen 3m
Babel 6m
35m from Owners
Total: 44m

The most likley players to join (minus ruiz, as we havnt been linked with him recently), lopez has been offered to us, honda has expressed his desire to leave and has been linked continuously and m'vila has said he preffers a move to the premier league and we cud offer 1st team football.

Reina - Johnson, Wilson, Agger, Aurelio - Honda, Gerrard, Meireles, Ruiz - Lopez, Torres
Subs: Kelly, Carragher, Lucas, M'vila, Kuyt, Jovanovic, Maxi

E.H LFC

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22 Nov 2010 20:54:15
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Interesting thread about Rafa wanting Johnson and the fans thinking we should recoup all of the £18M we 'paid' pompey for.

Firstly, Rafa admitted he paid way over the odds for the full back but the fact that Johnson was playing well at pompey and he was the current England full back made him pay the money. So i would say Johnson is worth no more than £7-8M. Prices, so we are told are extremely inflated for English players
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And do explain to me why we should just be bullied into selling our player? Please, explain that to me! !

If we don't want to sell Johnson, we are fully within our rights to ask for £18m for Johnson. No-one gives a damn what Johnson's true valuation is, or what you think he's worth. Its what LIVERPOOL WANT for him, not what Inter want to pay.

If they don't match LIVERPOOL'S PRICE, they can do one.

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22 Nov 2010 20:43:18
Interesting thread about Rafa wanting Johnson and the fans thinking we should recoup all of the £18M we 'paid' pompey for.

Firstly, Rafa admitted he paid way over the odds for the full back but the fact that Johnson was playing well at pompey and he was the current England full back made him pay the money. So i would say Johnson is worth no more than £7-8M. Prices, so we are told are extremely inflated for English players

Secondly one thing i couldn't get my head around. At the same time we sold a Spanish full back to a Spanish side, yet the fee no where reflected the Nationality. So the two never really fitted to me whatsoever. Whilst Arbeloa would never fetch £18M, surely we should have got a tad more than £3M?

Mind you he wanted out and Carra nearly kicked him out in any event plus he was out of contract the following summer. Hmmm have i answered my own question? Still think we could have got more.

And finally stop saying Pacheco should be in the side. This season he has played like a drain, whatever the reasons, i ain't interested. He hasn't earned the right.

Once he picks his dummy up and decides to roll his sleeves up and stop this Spanish sulk that is going through the squad at the moment, he may find he'll make progress.

Seriously guys watch a bit more reserve football. I know the quality of the picture is utter crap, no fans, no atmosphere etc but I enjoy the football a lot more.

Bob the Red {ed's note - I do watch every ressie game mate, there isn't one player in our first team playing well enough that you can say they deserve to keep their place. That alone says that someone from the reserves should get the opportunity to replace them, but you can't judge them on how they play in those matches, it is not like the old days when the reserves were competitive. They are just training matches now and of little use for anything other than to get players fit. By the way I just have to remind you that Pacheco actually played well against Blackpool.}

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22 Nov 2010 20:40:22
To this person

I hope he can turn things around it took ham a season with Fulham. His record is just about on par with Rafa when he took over. I thought we were a club with loyalty and respect i for one will not be calling for the mans head after 4 bloody months.

'All we are saying is give roy a chance'
in Rafa i trusted in roy i trust
YNWA
Quigz23"
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seriously. you need to trawl the archive section on this topic. believe me its been done to death and to be honest i havent the strength to argue this any more.

You are wrong on so many counts i don't even want to list them. just look back through

chris 1

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22 Nov 2010 20:34:52
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"Whereas Sky want to spread rumours round and build them up to generate money through their bookmaking arm"

Insightful. I don't agree with you about O'Driscoll, Young and O'Neill, but you have restored a lot of credibility for me with this. Keep up the good work mate. {ed's note - I used to find SSN was invaluable when I first started the site, but they have gradually lost sight of what made the channel so good. I suppose that is what happens when you let greed run things.}

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22 Nov 2010 20:18:35
Ed? can u tell me the reason king kenny walked away when he was manager. . . {ed's note - he suffered terribly with stress after the Hillsborough disaster and getting to as many funerals of the victims as he could do. He also spent a lot of time trying to help the families in the following months, added to the pressure of the job it was just too much for him to cope with at the time. He was still a young man and it was a lot for him to bear and cope with, he just needed to walk away to keep his sanity.}

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22 Nov 2010 19:26:48
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If the rumour about Johan Elmander is true then happy days!every top club needs at least 3 or 4 strikers, we have 2, one of which elmander is better then, the guy has looked a class act this year!his goal a couple of weeks back was out of the bergkamp bag! Class! Just read that someone said he doesn't look good enough to play for Liverpool, has Fernando torres looked good enough to play for Liverpool this season?other then the Chelsea brace he has done nothing. elmander has shot Bolton to 5th in th league, 6 points off Chelsea, and top scorer in the league. Same with A young and a couple of others players being mentioned on here, people have to realize that they are MUCH MUCH better then current options we have now. .
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The only reason Elmander is better than what we have now is because we have nothing apart from Torres and N'Gog. David N'Gog is a good prospect and I think he'll develop into a good player, who will surpass Elmander's current ability.

In a title winning team, Elmander would not be good enough. We're better sticking with N'Gog, and giving young players like Pacheco a chance rather than wasting time, and money on Elmander.

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22 Nov 2010 19:25:07
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Just read a book called faithful, , its about boston red sox and the season after john henry took over, , all you who fear the worst should read it, at the end of the storm is a golden sky, i can hear the lark starting to sing

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22 Nov 2010 19:19:54
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ED is Brian Cowen (Irish pm) Tom Hicks in disguise
Dublin Red {ed's note - I have no idea mate, if you hadn't put the brackets I wouldn't have even known who he was!}

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22 Nov 2010 19:12:45
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Did nesv not say they would listen to the fans.
they should tell roy 2 get pacheo on cause its what every lfc fan wants
what you think ed?
ynwa
dw {ed's note - I don't agree with the fans picking the team, while I want to see him play it should be up to Roy to pick the players he thinks best while he is Liverpool manager.}

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22 Nov 2010 19:10:31
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If the rumour about Johan Elmander is true then happy days!every top club needs at least 3 or 4 strikers, we have 2, one of which elmander is better then, the guy has looked a class act this year!his goal a couple of weeks back was out of the bergkamp bag! Class! Just read that someone said he doesn't look good enough to play for Liverpool, has Fernando torres looked good enough to play for Liverpool this season?other then the Chelsea brace he has done nothing. elmander has shot Bolton to 5th in th league, 6 points off Chelsea, and top scorer in the league. Same with A young and a couple of others players being mentioned on here, people have to realize that they are MUCH MUCH better then current options we have now. .

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22 Nov 2010 19:02:59
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Was just looking at the Guillem Balague website. A few days ago he had it posted that Daniel Pacheco wanted to leave Liverpool, and he has since taken it off his website, and Sammy Lee has came out and said that Pacheco is close to a breakthrough.

Wonder does that mean he's been told he'll be getting his chance now?

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22 Nov 2010 18:58:31
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Ed, do you think Comolli role in the club mite make the next manager to think about taking the job real hard?

{Editor's Note: What next manager? The club has a manager.}

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22 Nov 2010 18:55:22
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Suso has signed his first professional contract!
i would like to see him in the first team this season.
what you think ed?
ynwa
dw

{Editor's Note: Perhaps a cameo at some point.}

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22 Nov 2010 18:55:04
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Just to start a debate on our next manager how about Owen Coyle or Jamie Carragher. Coyle did a great job at Burnley and is now doing a better job at Bolton. Seems to get the best out of a bunch of ordinary players. Should suit us then. I think in a couple of years from now Jamie will do as good a job as King Kenny did.

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22 Nov 2010 18:49:11
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Pritam

You forgot the most probable and likely destination for Torres this summer (if he is to leave), its in england and in manchester but not united.

Roy

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22 Nov 2010 18:46:56
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Just seen another report of Roy stating an interest in Carlton Cole.
He's said to be keen on Cole because he can hold up the ball, but his goals-to-appearances ratio is I think about 1 in 4 or less, which would mean we'd be lucky if he got 10 premiership goals per season.
The price is rumoured to be 10 million, but he is 27 so he's at the upper end of the age range that Comolli will agree to, and Comolli might also objet because of that low goals-per-game ratio.
Couldnt we find someone who can hold up the ball, and also score too? That way Roy get his ball held up so he's happy, and the team also get to win some games.

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22 Nov 2010 18:42:31
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"I hope he can turn things around it took ham a season with Fulham. His record is just about on par with Rafa when he took over. I thought we were a club with loyalty and respect i for one will not be calling for the mans head after 4 bloody months.

'All we are saying is give roy a chance'
in Rafa i trusted in roy i trust
YNWA
Quigz23"

Can you explain how/ when "His record is just about on par with Rafa when he took over" . I am not sure what you mean . which period of Rafa's 5 years are you referring to, because even last year (his worse here) his record was far better than Roys 14 games?


And with regard to give Roy a chance thing, fair enough , none of us on this site can sack him (he would 've gone by now) its NESV that giving him chances . but as a liverpool supporter of over 35 years I have a right to criticize and say what I want to when I see my club going down hill with every game, people like you need to understand the serious consequences to our club if we loose top 10 finish. and the way we play at the moment, a lower half finish is where we heading at . when was the last time Liverpool had a negative goal difference after 14 games ?
Roy

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22 Nov 2010 18:31:35
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"It's so sad and disappointing that some of the Liverpool supporters want Roy Hodgson to lose and miss out on top four so he can get the sack rather than seeing him reaching the Champions' League spots."

I have always critised Roy (from day 1), but never wished we lose, and there were very few simpleton on this site that had that wish. I've seen more posts like yours than those wishing us loosing.

Most of our posts predicting(not wishing) that we will (loose/ drop silly points) because of the style Roy wants us to play, and we hope with every game that Roy proves us wrong and win but sadly with the exception of the chelsea game, he proved us right again and again.
Roy

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22 Nov 2010 18:29:23
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Editor's Note: Although Torres gave RH his backing last week in an interview given in Spain.

I believe he will stay till the end of season unless we have a massive change in form etc.

What i will say ed is that he is not getting involved with things he should be at the club and that's a 100% fact.

What i was told was it is difficult to play with a player who is not interested. .

Macca

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I know I am being (quite) optimistic here but I am finding it difficult to figure out as to where can Torres go (if at all) in the summer. . . .

1. Chelsea - They are going through a major downturn as of now, confidence wise. . . . .They have let go a lot of players and things like these don't escape the eyes of footballers. . . .

2. Real Madrid and Barcelona - He is from Athletico Madrid (that should settle the matter for Real Madrid). . .Difficult to see him fit into the Barcelona style of play. .one of the prime reason for my thoughts being that he was dropped from the playing eleven in FIFA WC 2010. . he is not very effective when any team plays in typical Spanish TIKI-TAKA way. .

3. Manchester United and Arsenal - We will not sell to Manchester United (only Roy thinks otherwise) and Arsene Wenger won't ever spend more than 30 million (any currency) on a single player ever again. . .

4. Milan - They have Ibra and may well go for another nut case like Balotelli

5. Inter Milan - They currently have Eto and Millito. . . . two of the best in Europe. . . .I don't see them getting rid of both in one summer. .


The only place he might go (logically. . . . to fulfill his ambitions is Bayern Munich) and they can afford him. . . they ALLEGEDLY were under pressure last summer to make a MARQUEE signing but Van Gaal didn't think it was required. . . . .But again I can't see Fernando Torres reaching the same heights as a player in any other club. . . .


It seemed like a MAGICAL and DIVINE moment when he scored his first goal against Chelsea. . . The air must have been very pure at Anfield that day. . . .

I have a feeling that we are slowly on the up and hope Torres realises this and remains with Liverpool for the rest of his career. . .And as far as his being NOT INTERESTED is concerned, I would say that all he wants to tell his coach Roy Hodgson is "I NEED SERVICE AND YOUR TACTICS are not rendering any? ". . . Hope Roy and the owners listen and give us two good wingers, we have lacking since ages. . .

Pritam

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22 Nov 2010 18:27:25
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22 Nov 2010 18:07:06
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Ed, do you think that john henry and co may be thinking of bringing in a young up and coming manager to work along side hodgson, someone they could nurture along side their club rebuilding strategy?

{Editor's Note: No - that makes no sense at all.}

many thanks for the reply, just wanted to ask your opinion , i have seen the option mentioned on a few other sites!
i like roy the man, but not the manager for us!

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22 Nov 2010 18:27:13
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Why is Pachecco not getting the run outs! If Jonjo and eccleston are gettin run outs then so should he. He has pure class and can play on the wings giving us the width we so desperatley need! he is also a good set piece taker from the 25yard mark, has slotted a few for the reserves.

I still don't rate Maxi even though he has scored recently, he just doesn't offer enough from wide positions!

What you reckon ed?
Reina
Johnson - Carra - Agger - Konch
Cole - Gerrard - Merieles - Pachecco
Torres - Kuyt

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22 Nov 2010 18:25:21
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22 Nov 2010 16:42:47
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Macca {ed's note - I have been told it is split, that a number are getting behind him until the end of the season but a large proportion are certainly not behind him. I think it would depend on which side your first team player is on as to which view they give.}

Hi ed, i think you are right with regards to it at the club, depending on who you speak to at the club.

One thing i can guarantee is that Torres is definately distancing himself from the rest of the squad.

Macca

{Editor's Note: Although Torres gave RH his backing last week in an interview given in Spain.}

you jus gotta see them in training to see how things are at the club they really do look happy together the whole squad and staff

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22 Nov 2010 18:07:06
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, do you think that john henry and co may be thinking of bringing in a young up and coming manager to work along side hodgson, someone they could nurture along side their club rebuilding strategy?

{Editor's Note: No - that makes no sense at all.}

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22 Nov 2010 18:06:48
Liverpool Rumours
A representative of French midfielder Blaise Matuidi has claimed that the player is contemplating a move away from St.Etienne in order to further his club and international career.

Pierre Dominique, an informal representative of the midfielder, believes that the player could move as early as January. "If you ask me will Blaise be at St.Etienne in many years to come, I have to answer truthfully and say no. Blaise knows the club has been good to him, but he wants to play for France, he wants to win trophies, he wants to be playing for the best club possible."

Dominique has admitted that there has been interest in Matuidi for some time, but refused to confirm the clubs showing an interest. "It is true that there has been considerable interest in Blaise from Italy and England. He feels that his qualities as a strong and physical player would be more appreciated in the Premier League. But nothing firm has come forward yet, so we can't rule anything out, nor can we guarantee anything".

Matuidi has been strongly linked with a move to Premier League giants Liverpool and Arsenal. But many feel with the arrival of new Director of Football Strategy Damien Comolli at Liverpool, they may lead the race for the midfielder.
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Copied off another site, looks like a load of garbage to me.

{Editor's Note: It is getting toward the time of year where agents come out from under their rocks - although to be fair I do like some agents.}

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22 Nov 2010 18:03:38
Liverpool Rumours
Always a red {ed's note - I think the English league rewards attacking play, which is something Roy doesn't seem to understand. It might help having an attack-minded coach alongside him though.}

i know people will say winning 3-0 is attacking but we still have a negative goal difference. that could have all changed if roy didn't but the shackles on in the second half against west ham. also great news that young suso has signed a professional contract, good time ahead with this lad.

p.s i can't belive i heard 'sign on' at anfield those h* king cockney's, they must be watching green street to much and think there untouchable lol

always a red

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22 Nov 2010 17:58:59
ED, what do you think our team should for thursday,
considering we are almost there and got harry the nap on sunday i think we should take kids and give them a game {ed's note - I agree mate, rest the first team and take the stiffs and subs.}

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LFC play Steaua Bucharest after the Spurs game , therefore 1 week this Thursday .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 17:58:30
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Macca,
Wll u be quite for a while, now we are starting to go somewhere ppl like here to bend over backwards to unstabalise everything.

I am 100% sure u have no contatc and all bull s* t!

Thanks but no thanks for your negative comments

Just posting what i was told on Saturday mate, sorry if you don't like it but i am sure most people like to know what is going on, good or bad.

Macca

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22 Nov 2010 17:56:26
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I really hope we buy honda, but to think he would boost or image in far east is a bit ify, it would in japan but why would it in china and Thailand? its like a team fom j league buying a german and loads of english fans being created, the fans in other counties arnt thick, most of them are well educated on footy i would say some of the jokers on here could take a lesson from them, you try looking for football rumours and info in Chinese and you would understand were im coming from, its a pity some Japanese fans don't post on here, bob paisleys skids
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The nature of football is totally different in Asia than it is in Europe. It's different in Africa also.

Look at the World Cup, the whole of Africa was united in supporting Ghana. You seen Nigeria fans, South Africa fans, Cameroon fans all supporting Ghana because of the African link. The hype in the whole of Africa when Real Madrid signed Diarra, and Barcelona signed players like Eto'o or Kieta was massive. Barcelona and Madrid actually made considerable amounts of money from both deals.

The trend is the same in Asia. The whole of Asian football was in pandemonium when Park Ji-Sung went to Man Utd and Man Utd raked in the cash from the deal. Even when Nakamura went to Celtic it was a big thing. To them, its not about nationality, its about the fact that an Asian footballer has made the big time.

The whole culture is different here. Say for example Torres went to Juventus or Inter Milan, we wouldn't start watching Inter or Juventus.

But now in Africa we see people with Chelsea shirts (Essien, Drogba, Kalou, Mikel), Real Madrid shirts (M.Diarra when he played there), Barcelona shirts (Eto'o), Arsenal shirts because of their many African lads. And in Asia, Man Utd received a massive increase in support after Park signed. And notice when Man Utd are advertised in Asia, Park usually appears in their campaigns.

So signing Honda would be massive for us.

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22 Nov 2010 17:53:56
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Lads seriously when are we arranging the change of name of this site to Woy Bashing.com

YNWA Roy.

I hope he can turn things around it took ham a season with Fulham. His record is just about on par with Rafa when he took over. I thought we were a club with loyalty and respect i for one will not be calling for the mans head after 4 bloody months.

'All we are saying is give roy a chance'

in Rafa i trusted in roy i trust
YNWA
Quigz23

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22 Nov 2010 17:51:53
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Absolutely no disrespect meant to anyone!
but please, please, please, will the guy's who keep persisting that hodgson will be getting a so called £25 million or so war chest, please realise that this is football in the real world! so, hodgson will not be given a budget, he will not choose on his own and it certainly will not be a bunch of midtable misfits! all future targets will have to fit a pre- determined profile chosen by the board/ comolli and hodgson, and i think the board will make the final decision, with comolli's advice.
many things will be taken into consideration, value for money, age, squad/ team improvement, etc, i could go on!
so, for goodness sake stop getting too wrapped up in console fantasy football games, before you can't tell reality from fantasy !
please correct me if i'm wrong ed!

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22 Nov 2010 17:46:39
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ED, what do you think our team should for thursday,
considering we are almost there and got harry the nap on sunday i think we should take kids and give them a game {ed's note - I agree mate, rest the first team and take the stiffs and subs.}

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22 Nov 2010 17:45:44
"Suso signs 3 year Professional contract"

There is a confidence boost for the club .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 17:41:51
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If a team on average won their home games and drew their away games they would have 76 points (i think). even with roys negative tactics this isn't impossible. 76 points is probably champions league, am i being to optimistic.

ed do you think if we had an attack minded coach alongside roy in sammy's role, things on the pitch would improve, sort of like american football with an offensive and defensive coaches. i know things went sour with the roy evans but that's because the board at the time had every intention of screwing him over. just a thought.

always a red {ed's note - I think the English league rewards attacking play, which is something Roy doesn't seem to understand. It might help having an attack-minded coach alongside him though.}

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22 Nov 2010 17:41:39
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Editor's Note: Although Torres gave RH his backing last week in an interview given in Spain.

I believe he will stay till the end of season unless we have a massive change in form etc.

What i will say ed is that he is not getting involved with things he should be at the club and that's a 100% fact.

What i was told was it is difficult to play with a player who is not interested. .

Macca
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Macca,
Wll u be quite for a while, now we are starting to go somewhere ppl like here to bend over backwards to unstabalise everything.

I am 100% sure u have no contatc and all bull s* t!

Thanks but no thanks for your negative comments

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22 Nov 2010 17:34:34
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In Reply:
i really hope we buy honda, but to think he would boost or image in far east is a bit ify, it would in japan but why would it in china and Thailand? its like a team fom j league buying a german and loads of english fans being created, the fans in other counties arnt thick, most of them are well educated on footy i would say some of the jokers on here could take a lesson from them, you try looking for football rumours and info in Chinese and you would understand were im coming from, its a pity some Japanese fans don't post on here, bob paisleys skids

How can you say that? When Barcelona and Real Madrid signed players froom around the world how many people started watching La Liga, and then other continental leagues?
When Honda signs, Japan will be massive for us, but there will be more interest from the whole area, as there is an asian player there.
More of us show interest in MLS becauseof David Beckham, i mean us in a European sense, when a player is massive, like Honda to Asia and Beckham to Europe, the whole continent takes note. .

Andy, Bootle

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22 Nov 2010 17:33:30
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This site is great eds i`ve been avidly reading and adding posts and the coverage between this site and the guardian whilst the take over happened was second to none! As a life long Red (35+years) I am becoming more & more frustrated with the negative comments i`m reading on a daily basis and some of the unrealistic rumours i`m reading. As soon as a name is mentioned in the papers everyone is slagging off Woy as if he has actually made a bid. I think we all need to be patient and get behind the team and manager until NESV actually confirm something is going to happen. I`m so sick of the negativity over PAPER RUMOURS, nobody really knows who is coming or who is leaving. Lets get behind the team & manager until it does. YNWA

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22 Nov 2010 17:26:48
After what I seen from LFC against West Ham , I feel optimistic Roy Hodgson might do something this season . As poor as West Ham were , I thought there was major improvement tactically and creatively . I hope the team continues to improve throughout the season .

The players and the team are certainly capable of doing alot better .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 17:23:03
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So Macca are you saying Torres is dying to leave and that he no longer loves LFC and the fans?

Cos that is what his body language suggest.

I was hoping he was pissed at how carp we are but would stick around as we rebuilt but that is just wishfull thinking.

I can't see us getting top 4 this year

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22 Nov 2010 17:20:31
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It's so sad and disappointing that some of the Liverpool supporters want Roy Hodgson to lose and miss out on top four so he can get the sack rather than seeing him reaching the Champions' League spots.

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22 Nov 2010 17:15:10
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Some people are plainly clueless about football. Elmander is shining in Bolton because of their playing style or Owen Coyle's style. He doesn't have too much to offer Bolton individually. We don't play football like Bolton's and he is not good enough for us.

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22 Nov 2010 17:12:46
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Why do people think David Bentley is bad?- -He is decent enough. I'd take him in Liverpool.
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I'd take Bentley at Liverpool as well. Without a doubt. Spurs would have to pay us to sign him though.

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22 Nov 2010 17:06:46
Torres has been actively involved in LFC behind the scenes this season , participating in photo shoots , giving interviews and making videos with LFC TV (blinfolded penalties) . I think Torres would love to win with LFC more than anything , I think he can win with LFC and John W Henry will make him realise that .

We need Torres . His talent and passion are vital .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 17:04:56
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Why do people think David Bentley is bad?- -He is decent enough. I'd take him in Liverpool.

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22 Nov 2010 17:01:35
Unless Hodgson changes his away tactics, getting 4th is looking unlikely. We're so negative away from home, and its as if Hodgson is looking for a 0-0. He's treating us as if we're Fulham - always the underdogs, and that isn't the case.

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It would be great to see a 'sea change' in Roy Hodgson's away tactics . I think Roy Hodgson has always taken his time to implement his strategy and get the message across to his team .

We have a long season still , with the Premier league , Europa League and the FA Cup competitions to compete for , I think Roy Hodgson is capable of more than he has shown on the pitch this season .

If results continue to improve , I have every faith John W Henry patience will be rewarded .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 16:54:13
If the club can put a run of results together , the players will all be behind the Manager .

I think the players could have offered more this season , perhaps by the new year the club will be in a more competitive state .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 16:49:19
Mediocre mediocre that is all we will sign in january look what roy bought in summer apart from shelvey and wilson he spent around 17-20million on 4 lower than average players and the new owners r gonna trust him with money too with that 17-20million why didn't we just go and buy one terrific playerwe didn't need another ageing left back or another ageing midfield man or a bald headed portuguese man that was replace at his own club fc porto the club he captained by a revival teams player in sp lisbons former cpt moutinho how embarrasing is that the only portuguese man who does'nt look portuguese he looks more like your average scouser, and now roy has got damien comolli and they have had a sit down and discussed the direction for the club and who to bring in and roys now had a change of heart over his policy on transfers over 20 years over in one meeting the man has never bought one young player at any club he has ever been at and now at 63 he wants to change his stubborn views on club signings what a load of rubbish if we r gonna get younger players in we need a younger coach and on the next manager we need to get someone who has won championships so that managers philosophy is winning the title u didn't see chelsea look down the table for there managers and that was the mistake man city made in mark hughes appointment what did mancini do in inter win a title ancelotti win a title what did wenger win french ligue and numerous titles in japan ferguson titles what did we get houllier i don't think he won a title benitez ok he won 2 titles la liga and chps for us but didn't get backing and now roy a man who has won nothing so people may say well he took fulham to europa league and i say so what steve mcclaren done that and what happened in both finals they both got smashed and both went on to get better jobs then they r capable of my god roys away record alone should get him the sack or do the new american owners expect to get beat away from home like they do in there sports

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First of all . Raul Meireles is far from an embarrasing purchase - a quality player with alot to offer LFC .

And Secondly . Roy Hodgson has won more titles on the continent , than Arsene Wenger did (prior to taking the Arsenal job) .

We have to now trust John W henry , and take the positives as they come . The club has faced a terrible situation this season , now we must look forward to the necessary improvements .

Roy Hodgson is capable of putting something together this season .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 16:49:05
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Paul parker said LFC can win the Premier League this season .

A title challenge this season would be such a relief .

1977
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Unless Hodgson changes his away tactics, getting 4th is looking unlikely. We're so negative away from home, and its as if Hodgson is looking for a 0-0. He's treating us as if we're Fulham - always the underdogs, and that isn't the case.

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22 Nov 2010 16:43:44
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Folks, let's not get all eat up on who we did and didn't bid for in previous years. Let's just show some trust in the new owners. For one, they are business people? They have bought our club to make more money, they will be more than aware that to do this we need to be winning things and in the champsleague. With this on mind I do think they will invest in the squad, I do not think they will be splashing the cash on players who are average and will not help us achieve success. We can be linked to everyone (as it seems now) but if my understanding of how the new bosses work, the real targets will be progressed under the radar so that we don't have teams suddenly inflating the players prices. Lfc has not been as low as recent times for a long time so you have got to have faith that the new bosses will do things right. I know but in the words of John Lennon "you might say that I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
Andy the red

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22 Nov 2010 16:29:25
Paul parker said LFC can win the Premier League this season .

A title challenge this season would be such a relief .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 16:27:49
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HONDA
i really hope we buy honda, but to think he would boost or image in far east is a bit ify, it would in japan but why would it in china and Thailand? its like a team fom j league buying a german and loads of english fans being created, the fans in other counties arnt thick, most of them are well educated on footy i would say some of the jokers on here could take a lesson from them, you try looking for football rumours and info in Chinese and you would understand were im coming from, its a pity some Japanese fans don't post on here, bob paisleys skids

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22 Nov 2010 16:26:21
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Hey ed just wondering what wud be our chances of gettin luis suarez and what wud he cost? could we use babel in exchange plus cash

{Editor's Note: I think a near zero chance of Suarez and his cost would be determined by a potential bidding war, and I very much doubt that Ajax would want Babel in part exchange.}

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22 Nov 2010 16:19:01
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I know nesv stated they want youth, but i would prefer an experienced centre-back in jan, along with a striker, a hazard, and taye taiwo pre contract:
then sign another striker, another centre back, and a defensive midfielder then sell players who could make us some money. .also sell darby and spearing, yes i know sell our two prospects, but yes they could make 5 million combined and we can focus on the U20s in the squad.

my preffered striker would be podolski can play either wing and up-front. ed who is yours?

{Editor's Note: I think Darren Bent could do the job needed.}

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22 Nov 2010 16:18:27
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Or a bald headed portuguese man that was replace at his own club fc porto the club he captained by a revival teams player in sp lisbons former cpt moutinho how embarrasing is that the only portuguese man who does'nt look portuguese he looks more like your average scouser,
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Raul Miereles told Porto that it was his intention to leave the club at the end of the season, hence why they signed Joao Moutinho.

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22 Nov 2010 16:13:25
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Mediocre mediocre that is all we will sign in january look what roy bought in summer apart from shelvey and wilson he spent around 17-20million on 4 lower than average players and the new owners r gonna trust him with money too with that 17-20million why didn't we just go and buy one terrific playerwe didn't need another ageing left back or another ageing midfield man or a bald headed portuguese man that was replace at his own club fc porto the club he captained by a revival teams player in sp lisbons former cpt moutinho how embarrasing is that the only portuguese man who does'nt look portuguese he looks more like your average scouser, and now roy has got damien comolli and they have had a sit down and discussed the direction for the club and who to bring in and roys now had a change of heart over his policy on transfers over 20 years over in one meeting the man has never bought one young player at any club he has ever been at and now at 63 he wants to change his stubborn views on club signings what a load of rubbish if we r gonna get younger players in we need a younger coach and on the next manager we need to get someone who has won championships so that managers philosophy is winning the title u didn't see chelsea look down the table for there managers and that was the mistake man city made in mark hughes appointment what did mancini do in inter win a title ancelotti win a title what did wenger win french ligue and numerous titles in japan ferguson titles what did we get houllier i don't think he won a title benitez ok he won 2 titles la liga and chps for us but didn't get backing and now roy a man who has won nothing so people may say well he took fulham to europa league and i say so what steve mcclaren done that and what happened in both finals they both got smashed and both went on to get better jobs then they r capable of my god roys away record alone should get him the sack or do the new american owners expect to get beat away from home like they do in there sports

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22 Nov 2010 16:06:24
Liverpool Rumours
Alright guys! To be honest ive only seen honda in the world cup which he looked decent but don't forget in 2002 world cup senegal has 2 players who also turned heads who eventually ended up at liverpool. We all no I'm on about diouf and diao who to say it nicely were absolute shocking and terrible signings. Honda playing for cska moscow but let's be honest is there league anywere near the standard of EPL. I think christian poulsen would have the time of his life out the cos he would look class. I know it being negative but u no were I'm coming from. Also I believe that we will sign players in january because comolli would not of been brought in until after january if we were thinking about the summer. Me personally I would like to see if we have a chance benzema, adam johnson, vucinic or mata - I no its unrealistic but we all have a wishlist.

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22 Nov 2010 16:03:45
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Essien - Yes
Villa - Yes
Vidic - Yes
Ronaldo - Yes (let him slip)
Silva - Yes
Eto'o - Yes (too cold in England)
Robben 2008 - Yes
Dani Alves 2008 - Yes
Modric 2008 - Yes
Javi Martinez 2008 - Yes

There are others as well. Can you tell me why none of the were willing to sign for Liverpool? No
Mal 35

I believe we tried to sign Walcott, Joaquin (I think we bid around £14m , he went to Valencia for £18m) & Alves in 2006/ 7 (we couldn't afford the £14m Seville wanted, he went to Barca for £25M the year later (or maybe the one ofter that), Simao and Drogba. And were out bid every time!
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Yet another looney tune ignores my post. Dear, dear.

And are talking out of your backside son. First of all, Ronaldo, he didn't choose Man Utd over us, we went in for him and Houllier didn't think he was good enough.

We never entered contract negotiations with ONE of those players mentioned, therefore they didn't choose anyone over us. Dani Alves, well we offered money, Sevilla wanted more and we wouldn't go up, therefore he didn't choose anyone over us. We went in for Silva, but Valencia made it public so we pulled out.

Already explained the Simao one, we were close to signing, Benfica raised their price.

People are mentioning players who we didn't even bloody make a contract offer to, so they didn't turn us down for anyone else.

Do your research people. PS: This post was aimed at both above.

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22 Nov 2010 15:46:44
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To the guy who said we never go after world class u can blame the previous managers for that and the previous board members we could have bought cristiano ronaldo back when he was young this is from the big nose himself thompson we did'nt go for him because houllier did'nt think the boy was gonna make it he was too skinny. i suppose man utd thought that did they my god and i ve heard on here people calling for phil thompsons return r u all insane he is carp just like sammy lee the man who has been successful in coaching sides is dalglish that's why he is king

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22 Nov 2010 15:45:04
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Ed? what are liverpools chances of signing honda?
are any other clubs interested that he would prefer

{Editor's Note: If Liverpool wish to follow up their interest in Honda I think there is a chance he will sign - but there will be interest from Arsenal, Juventus and Bayern Munich amongst others.}

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22 Nov 2010 15:44:21
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Elmander would be a fantastic signing. He would be affordable, due to contract details, and would be a great support for Torres, as well as finishing a few goals himself, would be good.
I would however prefer to have Benzema on loan?

Andy, Burscough

Believe- Agree
Disbelieve- Disagree

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22 Nov 2010 15:43:36
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2007 Bale (Southampton) Klose (Werder Bremen) Sneijder (Ajax) Eto'o (Barcelona) Kaka (AC Milan) Villa (Valencia) Simao (Benfica) Maouda (Lyon) Silva (Valencia) - Where are they now - not with Liverpool.
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I see you totally ignored my post. Anyhow, how many of those players did we make a genuine bid for? I don't think we entered contract negotiations with one of those players apart from Simao, therefore they didn't choose anyone over Liverpool therefore your point is totally invalid.

And the Simao deal fell through. We agreed a price of £12m, the deal was close, then Benfica raised their asking price and we pulled out.

So in future, do a bit more research before spouting such nonsense, there's a good lad.

PS: Who is Maouda?

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22 Nov 2010 15:40:13
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The club can never attract the best players? I know why, because we never go in for the best players because we've never had the financial muscle to! "In the past we've tried to sign the best players" - what players exactly? I actually don't remember us going in for a world class player in many years mate. Were we in for Rooney? Essien? Kaka? Villa? Ozil?

Essien - Yes
Villa - Yes
Vidic - Yes
Ronaldo - Yes (let him slip)
Silva - Yes
Eto'o - Yes (too cold in England)
Robben 2008 - Yes
Dani Alves 2008 - Yes
Modric 2008 - Yes
Javi Martinez 2008 - Yes

There are others as well. Can you tell me why none of the were willing to sign for Liverpool? No
Mal 35

I believe we tried to sign Walcott, Joaquin (I think we bid around £14m , he went to Valencia for £18m) & Alves in 2006/ 7 (we couldn't afford the £14m Seville wanted, he went to Barca for £25M the year later (or maybe the one ofter that), Simao and Drogba. And were out bid every time!

Is that right Ed?

{Editor's Note: There was certainly interest in a number of these players - and certainly none in some. It is also not simply a case of being outbid - there were many where no bids were made because the players did not want to move to Liverpool.}

Rossi46

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22 Nov 2010 15:27:37
Park chu young anybody? Korean version of Honda. We were interested in the past weren't we?

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22 Nov 2010 15:27:30
The club can never attract the best players? I know why, because we never go in for the best players because we've never had the financial muscle to! "In the past we've tried to sign the best players" - what players exactly? I actually don't remember us going in for a world class player in many years mate. Were we in for Rooney? Essien? Kaka? Villa? Ozil?

2007 Bale (Southampton) Klose (Werder Bremen) Sneijder (Ajax) Eto'o (Barcelona) Kaka (AC Milan) Villa (Valencia) Simao (Benfica) Maouda (Lyon) Silva (Valencia) - Where are they now - not with Liverpool.

Mal 37

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22 Nov 2010 15:17:07
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22 Nov 2010 14:49:22
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Bring back mark gonzalez.
has been class since he left us.
26 now and has a lot of experience, much better player than he was 4 years ago.
what u think ed? and isn it true that we might be tryin to sign emre?

{Editor's Note: Not keen on players coming back - things have moved on. Emre, it has been mentioned - but that is a long way from being true.}

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22 Nov 2010 15:14:59
I have to think back to the start of the season , when Roy Hodgson was appointed Manager . I thought it was great that the football club had atlast , an English Manager again . I thought it was a passionate decision and I respected it .

Now , things are not going very well for Roy Hodgson , of course I would like him to succeed , somebody has to lift the Premier League with LFC - why not him ?

If Roy Hodgson is replaced , a foreign manager might have the same lack of appreciation for the domestic championship as Houllier and Benitez had . Now we have an English Manager again , I hope for the sake of LFC that we can succeed with him .

Title success with English staff , might be more achievable .

I had hoped when Roy Hodgson joined , that he would develop a romantic approach to the biggest job in English football . Playing attacking football , being expansive and using creative players - even playing a false forward behind 2 strikers - the kind of outlook that Joe Fagan had when given the opportunity to run the team .

Wether Roy Hodgson can become the type of Manager LFC demand , only time will tell . But when good results have been sourced and the team looks like it has made progress , we have to trust the words of John W Henry "Roy Hodgson is the Manager going forward" .

1977

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22 Nov 2010 15:14:51
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22 Nov 2010 00:29:37
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What about Fernando Gago? He doesn't get a game at Madrid. He has potential and would be quite cheap. What you say Ed?

{Editor's Note: He is not getting a game because he is injured.}
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22 Nov 2010 15:14:10
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*RED ALERT* in response to asking if the one from newcastle yes it is that emre also who played for inter and galatasary

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22 Nov 2010 15:01:46
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22 Nov 2010 14:34:34
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*RED ALERT*liverpool have been strongly linked with emre belozoglu according to reports in germanys 4-4-2 he will be involved in a swap deal which will see us get emre and 6million and fenebahce will get babel
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Do you mean Emre who used to play for Newcastle. if so I thought he was useful, but had disciplinary problems. A Good deal.

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22 Nov 2010 15:00:22
So would we have the money to buy any player we like because if we are only worth around a billion its not exactly much to buy decent players

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Ya, only a billion! we're lucky the powers still on.

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22 Nov 2010 14:55:12
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Ed what do you think of Bolton's right winger, Lee Chung Young. He impressed me at the world cup and has been in good form thus fas this term. At only 22 he is young enough to improve and seems the type of player NESV might like. I am not suggesting we become an all Asian team but it would do us wonders in sales for the far east to have him and Honda. Also he may not be world class but he would walk into our team right now and could then be a good squad player in the future.
Anfield Rapstar

{Editor's Note: Lee has done pretty well this season.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:49:35
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Anyone able to confirm an interesting stat about Hodgson that came up during Saturdays game, in the pub, it has to be said.

160 away prem games = 14 wins

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22 Nov 2010 14:49:22
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Bring back mark gonzalez.
has been class since he left us.
26 now and has a lot of experience, much better player than he was 4 years ago.
what u think ed? and isn it true that we might be tryin to sign emre?

{Editor's Note: Not keen on players coming back - things have moved on. Emre, it has been mentioned - but that is a long way from being true.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:48:59
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HI ED as i stated the other day heisuke honda has no intention of joing liverpool well especially not in january anyway the man only moved there in the summer from vvv-venlo in he is settled and has stated if cska moscow get an offer for him the team must be of chps league establishment not bloody europa tin cup.

{Editor's Note: Your suggestion that Keisuke Honda only joined CSKA in the summer is incorrect - he joined in December 2009. There is a reasonable chance that Liverpool could move for Honda.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:44:50
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HI ED mahmadou sakho is being heavily linked with liverpool he is the youngest captain in french ligue history he is contracted to 2011-2012 and in le equipe paris st germain have been stated in saying they know they cannot keep hold of him and the boy wants to leave for a new adventure been in there first team since 17 so let the race begin the paper quoted his price at a measley 8million

{Editor's Note: Arsenal and Juventus have declared an interest in the player and PSG would like him to extend his contract. May prove tough.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:43:31
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Anyone else think we should go for ray wilkins as replacement for sammy lee? chelsea have been dominant in recent years, looking unbeatable most of the time, but with ray gone they have lost 3 out of their last 4 games. was he the man behind the success? i just think that if he hasnt got another job lined up, we should get straight in there. sammy out, ray in. anyone agree?
ynwa belfast

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22 Nov 2010 14:40:24
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The club can never attract the best players? I know why, because we never go in for the best players because we've never had the financial muscle to! "In the past we've tried to sign the best players" - what players exactly? I actually don't remember us going in for a world class player in many years mate. Were we in for Rooney? Essien? Kaka? Villa? Ozil?

Essien - Yes
Villa - Yes
Vidic - Yes
Ronaldo - Yes (let him slip)
Silva - Yes
Eto'o - Yes (too cold in England)
Robben 2008 - Yes
Dani Alves 2008 - Yes
Modric 2008 - Yes
Javi Martinez 2008 - Yes

There are others as well. Can you tell me why none of the were willing to sign for Liverpool? No
Mal 35

I believe we tried to sign Walcott, Joaquin (I think we bid around £14m , he went to Valencia for £18m) & Alves in 2006/ 7 (we couldn't afford the £14m Seville wanted, he went to Barca for £25M the year later (or maybe the one ofter that), Simao and Drogba. And were out bid every time!

Is that right Ed?

{Editor's Note: There was certainly interest in a number of these players - and certainly none in some. It is also not simply a case of being outbid - there were many where no bids were made because the players did not want to move to Liverpool.}

Rossi46

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22 Nov 2010 14:38:36
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Liverpool target xherdan shaqiri is in talks with inter milan there goes another player roy

{Editor's Note: Pretty unimpressive to take a snipe at the Liverpool manager over this.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:33:06
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Personally, in the next 12 months there are a few players id like to see coming in at Liverpool:
Ever Banega (Poulsen + £3m)
Honda (£8-13m)
Yan M'Vila (£10m ish)
Benzema (Loan-Perm £15-20m)
Ashley Young (Babel +£10m)
Taiwo (£8m)

Ed, your thoughts on this and also on the stories linking Liverpool with Ash Young and Benzema?

Andy, Burscough

{Editor's Note: Banega and Honda would be great buys but the priority is a winger. I don't expect Taiwo in addition to Insua coming back.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:18:41
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Cheers for the response Macca, i suspect then that the info you've been given re Torres is more accurate than mine. I kind of get the impression that he just isn't happy, which has resulted in a deterioration in his relationship with Gerrard and Carra especially. The summer will be really interesting, i suspect that he won't openly try'n force a move and then it will come down to which teams could/ would be willing to pay at least £25m and offer a chance of winning trophy's.
You don't need to have any inside info to realise that old roy won't be there next season regardless of results this season, if the club move quickly and decisively then we may have a chance of keeping torres. Worryingly this does demonstrate how much power/ influence our biggest stars have over matters at present- it's an open secret that both Gerrard and Carra were instrumental in having Rafa removed. We need a strong manager/ coach who takes no s*eep from the players if we are to be a success again.
Roger over and out

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22 Nov 2010 14:18:20
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Re the issue of Torres, if I was a betting man ( which I'm not) I would say that Torres will be gone come summer. My heart tells me his will stay but my head (and his body language) tells me he's not interested (as macca said). I cannot see us turning down a big bid if he's not with us for the long haul. We would get 30mill at least which could increase in a bidding war. Don't get me wrong, I want lfc to be number 1 again but this can only be achieved by having players who have lfc's long term in mind. Ed what you think?
Andy the red

{Editor's Note: You may well be correct. I think much will depend how the rest of the season pans out and what options are available to him.}

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22 Nov 2010 14:14:49
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The club can never attract the best players? I know why, because we never go in for the best players because we've never had the financial muscle to! "In the past we've tried to sign the best players" - what players exactly? I actually don't remember us going in for a world class player in many years mate. Were we in for Rooney? Essien? Kaka? Villa? Ozil?

Essien - Yes
Villa - Yes
Vidic - Yes
Ronaldo - Yes (let him slip)
Silva - Yes
Eto'o - Yes (too cold in England)
Robben 2008 - Yes
Dani Alves 2008 - Yes
Modric 2008 - Yes
Javi Martinez 2008 - Yes

There are others as well. Can you tell me why none of the were willing to sign for Liverpool? No
Mal 35

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22 Nov 2010 14:13:05
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All this we need a new striker talk is ludicrous, we have one of the best young talents in the game in Dani Pacheco(El Asesino). The 2010 u19 European Golden Boot winner has the potential to become a world-beater 'the next Kun Aguero? Surely our priority should be to bring in some width, our last out-and-out winger was Steve McManaman, no? I think N'Zogbia should be a priority in Jan the lads got plenty of ability, pace and creativity. He also tracks back which would give our left back some much needed support. I beleive with this 11 we can get back into the top four;

Torres
Cole
N'Zogbia Meireles Gerrard Kuyt
Aurelio Agger Carra Johnson
Reina

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YNWA

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22 Nov 2010 14:01:12
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I think we should all forget about getting a new number 7 next season because we already have him. . . let king kenny hand the shirt to suso at the start of the season and watch the lad take the team to the title! !
sleeper10

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22 Nov 2010 13:43:27
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I'm very concerned at the moment with regards to people talking about a split in the dressing room on opinions about Roy Hodgson.

If we're to get into the Champions League again, the players need to be together and united, and they need to be united with the manager also.

It's no use to us if half the team don't like the manager, and half do. So as long as Hodgson stays, we won't get Champions League football for next season and unfortunatly, there's a chance that we'll lose our key players which will put us in an awful position and we'll fall further behind our rivals.

Give Kenny the job until the end of the season atleast, but get Roy Hodgson out of our f* king club before we lose players and go into a bigger mess.

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22 Nov 2010 13:12:28
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Nothing to do with Liverpool what I'm gona post, to do with Chelsea.

Was watching Sunday Suppliment on Sky yesterday, and there were concerns about them. Obviously, they have been beaten in three out of four games. But it was more to do with the fact that they have lack of squad depth. Of their 25 man squad, 5 are youth players, and 3 are goalkeepers leaving 17 outfield senior players.

One of the guys was commenting on the lack of depth, and pointing out that Roman Abramovic is no longer willing to splash out big money and big wages on players which is a big concern. He cleared their debt, which was like £200m, in the Summer. And he can't find a buyer, as Chelsea lose money every year (like £80m-100m) and no-one really has the finances or the means to make them profitable, meaning he has to find a rich Arab or something.

Big concern for Chelsea fans. Their lack of depth has been exposed, and their top players i.e. Drogba, Lampard, Malouda, Terry and co. are all ageing. Drogba is 32, Lampard is 32, A.Cole is 29 (30 in a month), Terry is 30 in a month! Malouda is now 30.

By the Summer, these lads will be a year older. And they will need replaced and soon, where is the money going to come from really? If Roman is unwilling to splash the way he did before?

Looks like its going to be a re-building process for Chelsea.

Serves them right though, got all cocky and thought Roman's money would last forever and relied on it instead of trying to build themselves into a profitable and self-sustainable club as well as spending.

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22 Nov 2010 13:10:45
Am I the only one thinking that the West Ham second half was an opportunity to bring on the likes of Eccleston early on and at least give them a decent run out and a chance to shine against poor opposition?

In response to the above; I see your point, but you seen what happened against Northampton. .I think Roy has ever right to be nervious about sending on to many youngsters on. Imagion the response if he had and West Ham had won 4-3. . .

P.S How the hell did we ever miss out on gettin Gary McAllister as a coach!

Rednose

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22 Nov 2010 12:51:41
Just a thought, but why do the press and ssn insist on using rumours from far inferior sites than this one. I constantly see references made to goal.com. caughtoffside etc. but very few from here. personally i think this is a much better site for both debate and rumours?

I know you can't really answer this but it just seems somewhat strange

chris {ed's note - because goal.com and caughtoffside will claim to be telling the truth, whereas this site is honest that it is just a rumour and could easily be false. The whole idea of this site is to give people the chance to find out if sites like caughtoffside or goal or the guy down the pub who claims to have a source are talking rubbish or if they are genuine. Whereas Sky want to spread rumours round and build them up to generate money through their bookmaking arm.}
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Yeah i guess so. still its annoying to say the least. for what its worth i have nothing but praise for the work you do. never mind the hours! ! . do any of you actually have a life outside lol

chris 1 {ed's note - we do try but it is difficult at times! Still I would only be watching footie if I wasn't talking about it anyway, now I just do both.}

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22 Nov 2010 12:50:55
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Ed, I see that people are starting yet more rumours now that Chelsea have lost a few games, i mean Roy is still at the helm yet people have already found his replacement ten fold. I'll be honest and say i have been one the ones who wanted roy gone, however, that was because I simply wouldn't trust him to spend whatever transfer funds we have wisely. Now that camolli is over seeing transfers i think it could work. We have been very slow in sealing deals for good players in the past seasons and they have ended up at our rivals (c ranaldo anyone?). Let's hope with the new owners bring a new approach and we can finally see some real quality in our team, not just the typical 'rafa' misfits. Come in the reds.
Red andy

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22 Nov 2010 12:44:14
To the eds;

Just a thought, but why do the press and ssn insist on using rumours from far inferior sites than this one. I constantly see references made to goal.com. caughtoffside etc. but very few from here. personally i think this is a much better site for both debate and rumours?

I know you can't really answer this but it just seems somewhat strange

chris {ed's note - because goal.com and caughtoffside will claim to be telling the truth, whereas this site is honest that it is just a rumour and could easily be false. The whole idea of this site is to give people the chance to find out if sites like caughtoffside or goal or the guy down the pub who claims to have a source are talking rubbish or if they are genuine. Whereas Sky want to spread rumours round and build them up to generate money through their bookmaking arm.}

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22 Nov 2010 12:36:50
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Am I the only one thinking that the West Ham second half was an opportunity to bring on the likes of Eccleston early on and at least give them a decent run out and a chance to shine against poor opposition?

I just felt really flat that Roy didn't seem to demand a full 90 performance from the players. It was an opportunity to put 5 or 6 past them.

Agree if you think it was an opportunity missed.

* *WELSH KOPITE* *

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22 Nov 2010 12:24:35
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Suso signed up until 2013. . quality! This kid is gonna be an Anfield legend! RED77

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22 Nov 2010 12:22:52
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If woy the boy is going to be our long term manager then we have problems already! he isn't NESVs man of choice so i would not be suprised if our poor form isn't a very good excuse to get rid !plus he is already about 60 odd so can't really be looking to build a dynasty like old whisky nose down the m62! also u can understand why they brought in comolli as they want someone who is going to be looking at players for the future and not just a quick fix and his record in the transfer market isn't that bad! don't know who would be in the running for the managers job if woy does get the boot because there really arent many outstanding managers around at the moment who would come to us? can u see jose leaving real madrid to come to us? nah me neither! as for up and coming british managers can't really think of any! yeah coyle is doing ok at bolton but that's bolton and expectations are a tad different there to wat we would like to think we should achieve! wat u think ed ? {ed's note - I think Coyle would have to be amongst those considered, there is no way of knowing if he could cope with the higher expectations without giving him a try. But it would be better to give him a try than giving a failed manager another go at failing.}

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22 Nov 2010 12:16:39
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We have absolutely NO chance of signing Hazard EVER! We all know the superb history of Liverpool and the Worldwide following but the club can never attract the best players. Man U offer the glamour, Man C and Chelsea offer the cash, and Arsenal and Spurs offer life in the big city.

If this was true how did we manage to buy, Torres, Alonso, Reina, Masch, Kuyt, or even Dalglish, Rush, or ANY of the top players we have ever bought in the past? Not all our best players was home grown, it is by attracting the best players and managers that Liverpool has got the superb history, and Man U ''glamour''? WHAT THE BL* DY HELL IS GLAMOUROUS ABOUT THEM! ! ! !

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22 Nov 2010 12:16:10
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What are your views on joe cole guys? Kop flop or unlucky start?

Joe Cole has been a bit unlucky whilst at Liverpool, but my view is you make your own luck. Things didn't start well with the Arsenal sending off, missing a penalty, then getting injured after putting in a few decent performances.
What Joe needs to do is earn his place in the team, and not expect to walk in just because he is Joe Cole. The likes of Gerrard, Torres, Carragher and Kuyt walk into the team based on earning it with consistent performances over a sustained period of time.
Joe was signed to give us that spark, which could turn draws into wins. His best performance for me was vs Blackburn, but he was joined by all in having a good performance. What really marks out a quality player is when others around you arent playing well, they can change the game with a goal or assist to win the game (a la Gerrard vs Napoli)
The last thing i think Roy should do is put Joe in the starting 11 for Sunday. Firstly its breaking up a team which perhaps gave its most balanced performance of the season. Secondly, it gives the assumption to Joe that if your fit, you'll play.
Joe has time on his side still, there's 30+ games this season where Joe can make an impact and attempt to justify why we are paying us massive wages.

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22 Nov 2010 12:14:47
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If we did sell agger and johnson to rafa we should get more than 25 mill ,
there woth more than 12.5 million each

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22 Nov 2010 12:04:43
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Quick response to macca:
Interesting read as usual, just an aside tho, the ressie player that i know is of a different opinion to the info you have. Torres has missed a bonding session, through injury and not through choice, he has attended the other sessions.
With regards to the the "players being 100% behind roy", that really isn't the case. Roy has very few supporters left on the playing side, carra being one of a small number, gerrard only wants continued stability until the summer and the majority of the players are totally dismayed at the training methods and tactics (especially away).
I don't have any rumours of player transfers or anything, but the senior players have been given assurances of "decent" investment over the next couple of transfer windows!
Roger over and out

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22 Nov 2010 11:23:09
I really don't think our squad is too bad what we need is a manager who will play players in there correct positions. id rather we signed one or two top quality players in the summer not six or seven mediocre players. that is were we have been going wrong for years signing too many average players. we have had a better squad than arsenal for years yet they play better football and almost always finish above us I believe if wenger had been our manager we would have won a few league titles with the quality players we had and would of given our younger players more game time and please let roy go before pacheco does

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22 Nov 2010 11:15:51
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22 Nov 2010 10:59:58
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Liverpool right-back Glen Johnson has told friends he expects to join European champions Inter Milan in January.
Saw this on goal.com as well, but then saw this on Sky Sports

Glen Johnson has revealed he has held clear-the-air talks with Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson after the Reds chief criticised his form.

Hodgson publicly criticised Johnson's form this season claiming the full-back had yet to show why he was England's first-choice at right-back.

The pair have played down the row and Johnson marked his return from injury on Saturday with a goal and a man-of-the-match display in the 3-0 victory over his former club West Ham.

Johnson has spoken to Hodgson about his comments and he admits he has yet to find his best form so far this campaign.

"Believe me, no-one wants me to find my best form more than me, and I was aware of what I had to do, " admitted Johnson.

"It was a little reminder from the boss, he told me that was what he meant by it.

"We spoke, and he explained he wanted it to help me, to push me and I said to him then, I don't need people to tell me, I know where I'm at in terms of form, and I knew it all already.

"The gaffer told me he has faith in my ability, we spoke and we cleared things up. Sometimes comments like that can be made to look more negative than they are meant.

"The boss explained that he didn't mean it in a negative way, just that he knew I had more to offer than I was showing, and wanted to get that from me."

Frustrating
Johnson had missed six of Liverpool's previous seven games prior to the West Ham encounter with a number of niggling injuries and he concedes they have affected his form.

"No player wants to be injured, and it has been frustrating to me, to be out for so long, " added Johnson.

"But that was more like it for me on Saturday. I think it has been a difficult season for me, but it has been a difficult season for a lot of teams and a lot of players.

You just have to keep doing what you've done in the past, and try to reignite some of that form.

"The last seven games I haven't played, and it is impossible to improve your form if you are not out there, so it's been extra frustrating for me.

"I had some niggling injuries at the start of the season, and when you don't have that consistency it can affect your form. I'm not making excuses, but sometimes it is difficult."

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22 Nov 2010 11:12:44
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Sorry to say this guys most will agree j cole is a flop hes s* t that's the truth pisses me off people expect to him to be some world class star trust me he aint gonna be the player we all want him to be no point waiting for something that's not gonna happen


get rid in january

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22 Nov 2010 10:31:08
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Reports of Unwanted Winger Ryan Babel being offered to Aston Villa in an £18-Million package.

A few weeks back I stated how I thought Ashley Young was over rated and not LFC quality. Well I have watched the past 3 Villa matches and he has been sublime, pace, skill and he's a good finisher. Can play off the striker or as a winger so can be perfect for woy to switch around.

Also I have watched the past couple of Wigan games and Nzogbia has strength, pace and ability. You may say not LFC quality but he has given us and basically every other team he's played against a hard time and there is a run in the game before last where he takes it past 4 players, holds the ball and slips Rodellega through with a deathly pass. I have been impressed.

On the striker front, I watched Athletico yesterday and Aguero scored 2 goals, his 8th and 9th this season, he is a proven goal scorer in La Liga, but hugely expensive with somewhat of a 70 million euro buy-out clause which is rather alot. Benzema get hardly any game time for JM and is willing to leave, he cost them 35 million euros but would cost us £20-25 million which is a bargain as the times he has been subbed on for Real he has been great. Dzeko is big, tall and a great finisher, would cost £30 million and good potentially be a perfect partner for Nando, all sh*tty are interested so we may have to pay more. Carroll, another big tall striker like Dzeko who sh*tty are also interested, would cost about £15 million and for such a young player who has proven he can battle with the best would be great; BUT his off field fanatics would be a big NO until there sorted.

That is my opineon of a few players, the Ashley and Charles ones have legs and we are in the market for a striker so any of the stikers mentioned could be possible.

Please show this ED as it took forever to write :D

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22 Nov 2010 10:24:35
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Well this isn't a rumour just a personal thought.
We have been linked with a lot of holding midfielders. I was thinking why not use someone already at the club. The name i'm proposing is going to raise some eyebrows for sure.
Daniel Agger. Okay he is injured but i'm talking about the future. Good at tackling, better at marking. Likes to get forward and better passer than most in that position. What are your thoughts ed?

{Editor's Note: Different Eds have different views on this, but Lucas is being played out of position and I don't see a need for two holding midfielders under any circumstances. My personal view is that as Gerrard gets older his abilities may actually be best deployed further back in midfield. Just my opinion.}

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22 Nov 2010 10:07:16
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Liverpool to sign in jan : turan 5 mil plus bable , n zogbia 8 mil , gary cahill 10mil , and david wheater 4miland we gonna try to loan bezemar . if not summer a really big named striker if benzemars don't work out? ?? i was talking to jay spearing down newz bar last night for a hour chewing his ear off i told him to tell roy h to f off he also said he could be offered in jan as part of n zogbia deal 8 mil plus him what do u think ed.

{Editor's Note: Arda would be the only one of those players I would like to see at Liverpool - and I don't see him moving in January. None of the others appear to be decent targets.}

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22 Nov 2010 10:06:58
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Hi all, think the main signings for jan should be wingers, players like griezmann, Sanchez or hazard. Think the last real winger we had was mcmanaman. Watch griezmann last night and the lad has class, he's fast and skillful. What's our chances of getting him ed. The second player we should buy in jan is a striker, gervinho, nilmar or bojan would be my choice. Come on ed put ur neck on the line, who do u think we will sign

{Editor's Note: Griezmann has attracted interest but I do not believe that it has been formalised at all. It is also worth keeping in mind that at 19 he would probably not command a starting position in the team. I don't see Sanchez as being a viable option and Eden Hazard could well spark a bidding war when he comes up for sale - probably at the end of the season.}

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22 Nov 2010 10:04:57
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Looks like Carlo Ancelotti will be liverpool manager by January. Its all done deal. But Chelsea refuse to let go Carlo after they got to know he coming to Liverpool. Lets wait n see. . Roy's days are numbering.

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Roys days may well be numbered. . But Ancelotti?? ? come on, you can do better than that!

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22 Nov 2010 10:03:10
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I think if we don't buy a striker in January, we still have Kuyt and Ngog to play there and they'll do a good job in supporting Torres. We can play Johnson Right wing and that buys Kelly more playing time. and then that leaves Left-wing our top priority in the January window. lets not get as far as the summer transfer window for now. and hope we get someone as talented as Mata or Dzudzak for a good price. they can give us lots of width and more deliveries for the strikers. maybe Comolli has other targets. lets wait n see

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22 Nov 2010 09:29:45
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If we have got the money for world class players as its said we might, Striker and wingers have to be are mian aim! Aguero is for me the best partner for Torres. His positioning and technique is so underated. Will he come?? I think if the offer is right Athletico will sell and i think with or without champions league football he would join. Yeah he's gonna cost alot but with the clearence in the summer and added funds We can seriously start thinking about world class players at anfield next season! The Aguero's, Turan's, Coentrão's are realistic. Not the Carlton Cole's and who ever other s* t players we have be linked with! Are future is bright!

Ynwa

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22 Nov 2010 09:22:34
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool will be given an estimate of 25 million in the january transfer window. Liverpool are going in for Yann Mvila for around 3-7 million.

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22 Nov 2010 09:18:34
Liverpool Rumours
I think Y Gourcuff would be a great addition

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22 Nov 2010 08:41:01
Liverpool Rumours
We need to sign Eden Hazard and a striker in jan. Llorente doesn't look like an option anymore so I would go for Edin Džeko, Karim Benzema or Lisandro Lopez. These players would no doubt help our team. And the day Keisuke Honda joins us I will go out and buy a Honda shirt. NESV would make bag loads of cash from a Honda transfer its such a no brainer.

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22 Nov 2010 08:16:36
Liverpool Rumours
Hey Ed, great site mate keep up the good work!

Was wondering if you have heard anything from your sources recently, or are they still a little gun-shy since NESV took over?

Thanks ed!

{Editor's Note: My understanding is that everything remains quiet - but no doubt much is going on in the background.}

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22 Nov 2010 07:47:07
Liverpool Rumours
PEPE


JOHNSON DANN CAHILL KONCHESKI BENTLEY RAUL GERRARD

COLE
GOMEZ

TORRES

SUBS JONES
SKRTEL
KELLY
LUCAS
KUYT
NGOG

MANAGER RH

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22 Nov 2010 04:12:20
We wil not be abl 2 go owt n beat spurs on the weekend wi no gerrard n exspecially wi roy as the manger wat do u think ed

{Editor's Note: I think the pubs have just closed.}

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22 Nov 2010 04:10:39
I think benzema n ashley young wud be the perfect sighin fo lfc we need a gd winger n sum 1 2 work up front wi torres

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22 Nov 2010 03:21:56
Liverpool Rumours
John Henry alone is not the only owner, he has the backing of 17 other investors including the New York Times, it is estimated the total net worth of all investors combined together is somewhere between 10-£15 billion. .also Funny enough Carlos Slim Helu the worlds richest man owns a 20% stake in New York Times, his personal wealth is estimated at $65 billion dollars.he has shown intrest to accuire all of the New York times in the past, if he buys them in the future he will become part owner of lfc

*If he really wants to get into football NY Times are trying to sell there stake in NESV after GFC. So he can buy the shares if he is that desperate.

{Editor's Note: This is all absolute piffle of course. Livepool is part of a portfolio of interests owned by NESV. The personal wealth of those shareholders in NESV is entirely irrelevant.}

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22 Nov 2010 01:12:57
Liverpool Rumours
To the person who wrote "As much as Ashley young is "overrated. . I think that ashley young would do a good job for us but cos he's english would not be good value. . On the Managers situation i think we need a young up and coming manager to fit in with NESV's ambition. .definatley not a manager coming in with a big ego and thinking he is bigger than the club, And so what if he can't convince our stars to stay they can leave if they don't want to be here and we'll cash in and re build. . Lets face it. .It won't be his fault they won't stay it will be the pack of lies they've been fed over the years that make them leave.

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22 Nov 2010 01:12:35
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Lfc should buy:
-adam johnson
-gary cahill
-keisuke honda
its reasonably choice 4 lfc they re young, pacey, strong, n skillful i blieve its make us stronger

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22 Nov 2010 00:48:15
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Always reading about us signing all these so called stars and up n coming youngsters but we will probably end up with sum same old run of the mill players! would love to sign some absolute star but just doesn't happen anymore as they generally get priced out of our range by someone like man s* tty or chelski!

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22 Nov 2010 00:44:12
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Ed Macca?

Is it 100% defo Torres is leavin summer?

{Editor's Note: No.}

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22 Nov 2010 00:30:45
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So would we have the money to buy any player we like because if we are only worth around a billion its not exactly much to buy decent players

{Editor's Note: Liverpool are not worth a billion - at least not in any major currency.}

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22 Nov 2010 00:29:37
Liverpool Rumours
What about Fernando Gago? He doesn't get a game at Madrid. He has potential and would be quite cheap. What you say Ed?

{Editor's Note: He is not getting a game because he is injured.}

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22 Nov 2010 00:19:27
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As much as Ashley young is "overrated"(which I don't believe he is)because he is English so are British managers. The best in Britain are from Scotland but even still Owen Coyle is no way the answer to liverpools problems. We need someone who has a personality and who people want to play for. We need a manager who can come in and convince torres gerrard and reina to stay. Coyle wouldn't be able to tell them to be loyal after he left burnley at the blink of an eye when they idolised him. We need a pair of young manager/ assistant that can spark something great in Mersyside and will stay for the long run. I would have a manager and two young eager assistants to help him:
Rijkaard
Gus poyet. Paco A

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22 Nov 2010 00:06:57
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Here is my opinion on how the next few months will play out in order for us to get back on the track to success with a goal of competing for the title by next season.
First, sack Roy. Recent results have varied from atrocious to decent(plus the fluke that was Chelsea). But his away form, his negative tactics, and his awful interviews are simply not good enough for LFC. We need a man who is young, has desire, understands the Liverpool way, and is willing to be patient and build a dynasty. I believe Owen Coyle could be that man for us. I was not the first to mention his name on this site but I have come to see how excellent he is and am very impressed with what he had done both at burnley and Bolton. Plays good attacking football and has enough experience in the English leagues to give me confidence. Also he has shown a willingness to play youth that will be so crucial for us in he future.
Then, in January, I doubt any big moves will be made. It is just never a good time for buying. However, I think we could get Honda during this window as the Russian league is in its off season and he fancies a move. This one player could make the difference in the rest of our season and we could push for champions league with this squad:
Gk: reina
Rb: Johnson
Cb: Kelly
Cb: Agger
Lb: mavinga
Rw: Cole
Cm: gerrard
Cm: meireles
Lw: honda
St: Torres
St: Ngog/ kuyt/ Pacheco

In the summer is where I think NESV could really make waves. We still have a lot of deadwood to sell on and some of it thanks to Roy. Outgoing would be Itanjde, Soto, Skrtel, Konchesky, Spearing, Poulson, Babel, maxi, Jovanovic, and Cole. Then lookto buy a RW, LW, CM, ST, and LB(depending on Mavinga's performances-I think he would do quite well). Well I am off to bed. I will be back tomorrow with some of those transfer targets. What do you think guys? Ed?
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - it would be nice, but I can't see it happening, I think, barring a disastrous run, that Roy is here until the summer. NESV/Fenway Sports have yet to even fully sort out the board, they are not looking to make quick changes.}

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