Liverpool Banter Archive July 14 2015

14 Jul 2015 23:12:05
Hi Eds and fellow reds. Apologies if not a suitable question, just need a point in the right direction. I have a ball signed by the title winners from 1985 and would like a rough idea of value. Any help appreciated.

14 Jul 2015 23:27:44
I'm no expert, but I'd imagine you'd have to ask someone who's a collector of football memorabilia, maybe they would be able to point you in the right direction.

Failing that, go down to your local auction house and ask one of the experts down there, they may be able to help.

14 Jul 2015 23:47:54
keep it until the reds can get somewhere usefull again

15 Jul 2015 00:16:46
Are you looking to sell it?

14 Jul 2015 23:22:20
Both your balls are priceless burkeyboy. 1985 was a good year but it's time to give them a wash

14 Jul 2015 23:30:07
The Everton squad?

14 Jul 2015 23:39:57
I'll give you £5 no questions asked

15 Jul 2015 00:00:44
It's not about money, it's never been about money.

15 Jul 2015 01:20:04
If it's from the title winners in 1985 it would be worth no more than a fiver. That's because Everton won it!

15 Jul 2015 01:26:18
Sorry stoneage, can't bring myself to wash em, just like my right hand which hasn't seen soap since shaking Bono and The Edge's hands at Flanagan's Apple 1988 ish, the night before the Aintree concert.
Not looking to sell, just passed it on to my son and of course he wondered if it was worth anything.

15 Jul 2015 06:48:58
Mate we didn't win the title in 85. Everton did.

15 Jul 2015 11:02:44
Sorry, meant 85-86 team, ball was signed at start of the season.

14 Jul 2015 22:43:13
Fiord tins fans really showing their displeasure of Ballotelli being linked to them, banner put up saying he is not an honourable man and not wanted by them.
Guy is getting it tough.

14 Jul 2015 22:59:29
Hardly done anything to help his cause

14 Jul 2015 23:16:00
I'm really feeling sorry for him right now. He's had a very tough 12 months and the last few weeks have been the hardest

14 Jul 2015 23:31:10
Never even heard of Fiord Tins.

Norwegian?

15 Jul 2015 09:30:22
He won't add steel but a good holder

14 Jul 2015 22:27:23
Benteke doesn't play for Liverpool. We may sign him we may not but the fact is he doesn't play for us. People on here are talking like he is a player already. Some are even talking like he has flopped already!!

15 Jul 2015 00:03:22
He might as well be because a deal WILL be done to get him here based on the Ed's info

15 Jul 2015 05:24:03
Dude, if that comes as a surprise to you, where have you been? That is completely normal on here.

14 Jul 2015 21:51:28
The Leverkusen bid and Sterling leaving today might be the factors that push through a deal for us with Kovacic.

With extra funds from the sale hopefully means we can meet Inter's valuation now. I'm hoping he would favour us rather than Leverkusen.

Seen a comment before regarding not buying Benteke and promoting Sinclair to the first team. Thinking about it it's a fair shout. Worry for Rodger's would be if we struggled for goals in first half of season it might cost him his job. So with that in mind I'd say we will see new striker arrive.

If buyers can be found we will likely see all of Lambert, Balotelli, Borini, Enrique, and probably Allen.

14 Jul 2015 22:19:23
With a bit of forward thinking the better idea would have been not to sign Origi in the first place and let Sinclair take that spot in the squad if he is deemed good enough.

15 Jul 2015 00:07:20
The deal for him is still on the table and if Leverkusen agree the the payment structure Inter want then he will move there regardless of what we do. Frankly, we don't need him as we already have players to play his spot in the team. All we need is a striker and if Benteke is the guy then so be it. Buying players in areas we are already served in is senseless, IMO.

15 Jul 2015 00:24:38
Seems like he is not deemed good enough Irish Rover unfortunately. To be fair I have hoped that he could come good for us. In fairness you can't hold it against the guy if he wants to leave although if I was him I'd be hoping for a good loan this seaso, he is only 18 and I can't see him getting into any of the PL sides week in week out. Hopefully we can work things out and continue to develop.

15 Jul 2015 05:58:08
Everyone talks about Sinclair like he's the second coming. He looked very very good for his age 2 years ago, but hasn't done much since. If you're going to step into liverpools first team as a teenager you have to absolutely light it up in the youth teams. Sinclair hasn't really done that. I think everyone's worried were going to have a Pogba incident, but that's pretty rare. Most of the time it's like when we let Della Valle go to Fulham as part of the Konchesky deal (I think that's right names). Everyone was up in arms but with hindsight absolutely no big deal. Same with Tom Ince.

15 Jul 2015 07:51:05
Redohio

Care to explain who is the player to play that role?
Emre Can, James Milner and Henderson are traditionally like to like B2B midfield players, That leaves us with Lucas and Allen, We have tried Allen over there in the past. Do you seriously want Liverpool to play a diamond with Allen at the base?

Incredible

15 Jul 2015 08:03:00
That would be a bizarre gamble Jonesred.

To start the season with a 22 year old with one season in FAPL and two teenagers who've basically zero experience in FAPL seems the height of stupidity after our struggles in front of goal last season.

Whereas in midfield we have Hendo, Milner, Can, Allen, Coutinho, Lallana & Teixeira who could all play in the roles occupied mostly by Kovacic.

Sinclair needs to play regular mans football before we know how good he is.

14 Jul 2015 21:40:50
Apparently Borini to WHU!? Any truth do you know, Cheers :)

14 Jul 2015 21:54:28
Makes sense as he wish to stay in England I guess.

14 Jul 2015 21:00:02
I admit I don't visit other teams' banter sites but I am willing to bet that LFC is the only site full of fans keep on saying we don't need new players and bag the owners to stop spending money. Given the awful season we just had you would expect the fans to demand we replace most of our squad.

I know people here love to think we have an amazing squad and just a bad manager. The true is we have an average squad and a poor manager. And if BR would have gone and Klopp would have been in he would demand to bring at least 5-6 new players and some expensive signings.

It is ok to say Benteke is suitable or not suitable to us but if people think that the players who brought us to 6th place last year will get us into the top 4 just because a year has passed is living in a dream. Look what an amazing team Chelsea has and they still try to bring more players this summer - I am sure none of their fans complain.

14 Jul 2015 21:15:15
How many more players would you like to be signed? For me it is just a top striker.

I would only look for Medel/Kovavic (one of!) if Allen was sold. I would be willing to sell Balotelli, Borini, Lambert and Skrtel without bringing anyone else in then.

14 Jul 2015 21:17:45
Fanobip but the important thing is to buy players to improve out starting 11 like Chelsea or Arsenal etc.
We have spent so much money and not improved our weaknesses (GK and Striker to name but 2).
This summer seems better but we still have Migs and no top striker though it's early days.
Milner, Clyne, Firminho and zings I think are great buys so far.

14 Jul 2015 21:21:42
please elaborate, who is average? I know we have some players who aren´t great, but saying that the entire squad is average shows how much you know about football. Last season we underperformed big time, and most of the credit goes to Brendan, due to poor tactics and playing players out of position.

14 Jul 2015 21:31:12
Most of the same players that got us to 6th also got us to 2nd. so if you're going to say Suarez literally was the only difference then by that same logic we only need one signing (a striker) to be back challenging for the title? Your whole argument makes little sense

14 Jul 2015 21:34:29
Sure we signed Bogdan to replace Jones and have already added Ings and Origi to the strike force with an impending addition of Benteke as well.

We needed two things; a right back and a striker.

Selling Mingolet and replacing him with a better keeper was always going to be a luxury signing. In the second half of last season he saved us more points than he cost us. If he maintains that form and continues to work on his distribution thenI see no reason to replace him whilst we have FFP issues.

I still think Skrtel and Moreno need to improve as they were at fault for a lot of goals last season, but fingers crossed the new coaching set up ups their game. With Ilori and Gomez being promised game time Skrtel may not see as much minutes as in previous seasons anyway and Maguire looks like a talented lad as well.

I fail to see how we have not adressed our weaknesses. We needed more goals and assists in midfield (Milner and Firmino), goal scorers (Ings, Origi, Benteke) and a right back (Clyne, Wisdom). Arguably a new centre back (Ilori, Gomez) and competition for Mingolet (Bogdan). We're not a Champions league team. A decent goalkeeper isn't going to happily sit on our bench so get that idea out of your heads.

14 Jul 2015 21:39:12
Whatever the reason, we underperformed last year, and we have every right to turn that around. We have made some intelligent off-season moves, including a substantial profit on a want-away player that's already been replaced with a class player.

Rodgers has many faults, but I do see him trying to learn from his mistakes, and I don't think its too late for him (or for us). Are we as good on paper as Chelsea/City/Arsenal/United? Many would make the case we aren't including the OP.

The reality of the situation, however, is that we can't afford to just keep buying players, success or no success. Replacing the squad every year is a guarantee of failure, actually. Adding important pieces (Milner, Firmino, Clyne for example) and youth who can play now (Gomez, Ings) as well as giving players a (expletive) chance in the side is far more important than buying a bloody striker or recruiting Klopp and his new expensive signings.

14 Jul 2015 21:41:26
We need a world class midfielder and till then we would be dominated in the middle. Henderson will have to do all alone himself.

14 Jul 2015 21:54:27
As for saying a decent keeper would not sit on the bench, Chelsea just signed Begovic. I'm sure he is not going to be first choice keeper

14 Jul 2015 22:00:19
European glory, name me a better midfield 3 in the league than Henderson, Milner and Lucas?

Possibly Coquelin, Cazorla and Ramsey.

Possibly Carrick, Schneiderlin and Herrera.

Possibly Matic, Fabregas and Oscar.

City, Everton, Southampton and Spurs certainly can't field a midfield as strong as that. Ours is at least the 4th best midfield in the league but I'd argue it's second only to the Arsenal trio.

Henderson blatantly won't be doing everything on his own. Let Kovacic go. If we wanted him that badly, we'd have matched their price tag. Like we gazumped everyone for Firimino. Clearly we don't value Kovacic as highly as Inter do. He's another luxury signing.

14 Jul 2015 22:00:46
Can't see too many premier league midfields dominating Lucas/Can, Milner and Hendo. Maybe Chelsea's midfield is better but that's about it.

14 Jul 2015 22:04:23
Chelsea are a champions league team who pay ridiculous wages and can afford to do so.

We're a Europa League team who is under FFP investigation. Stop comparing our situation to that of Chelsea. It's sad.

14 Jul 2015 22:19:47
Your a funny one EMS, I actually think u might not be joking either.

Hendo,Lucas and Milner ain't even up there with mason and benteleb imo.

14 Jul 2015 22:41:51
klopp would probably come and buy 2 or 3 expensive signing filling the gaps rather than 5 6 as u said. our squad is far better than you think it is.

hell klopp is not even our manager why talk about him.

14 Jul 2015 23:25:58
Mane tadic wanyama-southampton

Lamela Chadli Eriksen(throw in mason if you wish)-Spurs

Arsenal have as options-cazorla,wilshere,coquelin,flamini,ramsey,Ox ,Ozil,Arteta,roschiky.

15 Jul 2015 00:20:26
@CTR, Mason is a very poor mans Milner and Bentaleb is a poor man's Can. Neither would get in our team, no chance.

15 Jul 2015 00:54:55
Bobatron, you are comparing thier attaking midfielders, which is not ems question. You should compare those players with
Firmino Ibe/lallana and Coutiniho (you can add markovic)

15 Jul 2015 03:12:10
Bobatron
You are comparing their attacking midfielders which is not what ems is asking. You should compare
Firmino lallana/ibe and coutiniho ( u can add markovic)

15 Jul 2015 03:20:31
EMS

You have stated three above us and I would put city above us when they finish buying that's 4 above us and exactly where we finished last season.

15 Jul 2015 05:15:57
Mane is a striker and Tadic, Chadli and Lamela are wingers.

{Ed001's Note - Mane played wide and as a second striker EMS, he can certainly play on the wing and often does so.}

15 Jul 2015 05:56:53
If you're including those players bobatron then you have to include coutinho firmino lalanna markovic and ibe in Liverpool's midfield which does only add quality.

15 Jul 2015 08:17:32
Teddy the question was

European glory, name me a better midfield 3 in the league than Henderson, Milner and Lucas?

They all play in the centre of the park. Not every single one of them is an attacking midefielder. and regardless take a look at what's in the sentence ''Attacking midfield'' that's right the word ''MIDFIELD''

15 Jul 2015 09:04:27
False number 9 has number 9 in it doesn't mean there's any use comparing jonjo shelvey with Andy Carroll?

15 Jul 2015 09:20:34
Do they play in the middle of the field? Yeah they do. Therefor midfield. Do we eliminate hendo because he plays ''box to box'' then?

15 Jul 2015 09:24:48
I mean are we just bending all the rules here as to what midfield is to suit an argument? Why are we including lucas who sits so deep?

The boys I listed are all listed as midfield players at their club,regardless of whether it's attacking,defensive,or wide. they play midfield. That's what was asked. that's what was delivered by me.

Milner is also a wide player. so there can't be any argument about wingers here either.

mane and tadic striker?!?!?!?

14 Jul 2015 20:04:46
Lfc prepared to go massive £46m bid for reus link from echo i think this can't be true . can it

14 Jul 2015 20:37:03
Deluded!

14 Jul 2015 21:03:31
Echo source is the metro. And Metro is reporting from Squawka. And their sauce is a pint of Jack Daniels and 2 shots of extra hot Nando's peri peri. Not happening sadly. 6th again?

14 Jul 2015 21:44:24
Dbol

Wasn't squaka Ayres own secret blog?

14 Jul 2015 19:48:40
I have to say I think I'm most excited about seeing how Henderson grows this season. He seems to be chomping at the bit to take the midfield by the scruff and make it his own. It's almost like the shackles have been let off and he's going to play like a man possessed. Hopefully anyway

14 Jul 2015 19:25:16
To everyone who's moaning saying we need to be giving our u21s from our fantastic youth system. How many have we produced in the last ten years?

I remember our u21s dominating a few years ago with amoo, spearing, whitbread, ayala. Where are they now? Who's to say these u21s like Sinclair our so good? He didn't exactly set the u21s alight.

Notable players from liverpool academy in last twenty years. Gerrard, carragher, mcmanaman, fowler. I can't even think of anyone else, shows you how little chance these players have going on to be worldies.

Although I do hold hope for rossiter and wilson, also ibe and ilori even though they aren't from the academy. Other than that I don't see many players breaking into the Liverpool first team squad

14 Jul 2015 19:42:42
By definition very few players become "worldies".

If we can produce great players then, well, great. If we can buy better than we produce then we should.

14 Jul 2015 19:43:47
Was that a convenient memory loss about a certain Michael Owen - a striker that has better goals per game than Robbie.

14 Jul 2015 19:57:46
Owen, Rob Jones and Redknapp weren't bad.

Bit harsh on the likes of Kelly, Spearing, Suso, Ince, Coady, Wisdom, Ayala, Kackanicklic, Adorjan, Robinson, Flanagan, Gulacsi, Sterling etc who've all made good careers for themselves despite our best efforts to turn them into McDonalds workers.

Or did you conveniently forget that they all now play football at a good level? Had we given some of them chances before they hit 21 (like we did with Sterling, the biggest success) then perhaps they could've been even better.

14 Jul 2015 20:48:39
Rob Jones came from crewe and went straight into the first team. If I remember correctly his first game was against utd marking gigs and redknapp came from Bournemouth? Doesn't always work out, all teams have kids that fall by the wayside, don't develop like they promise or want to play when they're not ready, or more money than they're worth at the time, like pogba. But others should be given more time, cups or just on the bench for experience before getting a good loan.

14 Jul 2015 20:50:30
Kelly i will give you, quite unlucky with the injuries he has had. Wisdom the jury is out. Flanagan, potential is there if he can stay away from injury. The rest might have careers elsewhere but it doesn't help Liverpool, not even as a revenue stream really. We have done ok i guess but i think too many wax lyrical about younger players as the best thing since sliced bread when reality shows they are not. My main hope for the young players would be Ojo as the standout, not too many others if i'm honest.

14 Jul 2015 20:55:46
Rob Jones was a signing. So was Redknapp.

Owen was probably omitted from the OP as he came through the Lilleshall set up. So was our academyish.

14 Jul 2015 21:39:39
If you have 20 future "worldies" in the youth set up and none get a game how many become "worldies"?

Your point stands that we haven't been churning out top players but we also haven't given them a chance to become top players either.

Look at mceachran at Chelsea meant to be God's gift to England's midfield, never got any games and just moved down to the championship. there's two sides to the story is what I'm saying.

14 Jul 2015 23:38:51
If we give them all a chance and finish 10th because 2 succeed and the rest fail then the pitch forks will be out for Rodgers again.

15 Jul 2015 00:29:24
Shanek is spot on. You want a chance to produce worldview? Give your youth a chance. You can't have it both ways. You can't not play your youth YET expect worldies to appear. How are we supposed to get the worldies if not given a chance? Let's play the youth and those who make it, make it and those who don't well, don't. But you can't say that if we can't have worldies then no point playing them that is Nonesense . If that were the case, we would never have the Gerrards, Carras, Macca, Owens, Jones and so on.

15 Jul 2015 02:46:50
We are not asking for all of them to be given a chance. We are asking that a youth policy be put in place to gradually bring them thru so we can see who will and won't make it. That's all. You can't win the lottery without buying a ticket, Ron.

14 Jul 2015 18:41:03
ED002 if I may get your opinion on the sterling transfer if it won't cause you endless abuse?
I understand a lot of things have been done incorrectly on both parts but end result seems pretty fair for both parties by the looks of things. Liverpool pocket close to 40m & city get an English talent that COULD reach the heights at the very top if he can solve a few personal issues out. Can you see him getting much game time at city?
Many thanks bud

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool won't get "close to £40M" for Sterling. He will be a squad player at Manchester City and will get a decent amount of playing time.}

14 Jul 2015 18:25:10
Ed002 Reports are coming out of Germany stating Bayer Leverkusen have opened official talks with Kovacic over a transfer.

Bild say Kovacic could move to the BayArena for a fee of €20m.

Did Liverpool actually make an offer for him other than a joke bid as you put it.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - Yes - I am sick of explaining the same thing over and over again.}

14 Jul 2015 18:45:02
Good player no doubt but not needed if we keep Lucas surely? If rather Lucas in that position than a playmaker

14 Jul 2015 19:06:08
I'm with Essex. Not needed. With Benteke we've spent up anyway.

14 Jul 2015 19:08:52
Essex.

He would in all honesty replace Allen. Else like today you ll see Allen holding that role for the upcoming season.

14 Jul 2015 20:10:05
Allen should never of been bought and should be replaced.won't be many takers though.

14 Jul 2015 21:10:50
Didn't out second bid go higher than €20m or is it the structure of the bid that put inter off and would be willing to accept a lower bid with more up front. I know I probably don't know what I'm talking about, just want to get the basics of it. Because if kovacic ends up leaving for €20mill when we made a higher bid then something is wrong there surely?

14 Jul 2015 21:50:39
Hey ed, sorry to bother, but to your knowledge are Leverkuzen actually trying to strike a deal for him? I do not recall their name being mentioned in your summaries of the situation, so are they a new factor, or merely pointless media speculation?
Thanks!

{Ed002's Note - They are interested after losing MF player and losing out on a target to Chelsea.}

14 Jul 2015 21:53:39
Not sure where am I getting this, but I still am sure this lad will end up at Liverpool.
We moved on from Moreno last season and got the deal stuck on the EL final at wembley out of no where.
FSG ll give the green light for the player, because in all honesty Allen will be exposed next game and that would seal the deal.
Fingers crossed.

14 Jul 2015 17:36:15
Eds If some good player with a hefty price tag gets injured like Carvalho,will the selling club lower the value of player during transfer negotiations?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - People generally don't buy injured players and why would a club lower their valuation.}

14 Jul 2015 17:53:41
Just watched the game against Thailand. The lads' pressing were relentless throughout unlike what we saw last season where the 1st game of the pre-season is more low-key. Maybe a new mentality of not giving up and chasing balls even in a pre-season game.

1st half.
Teixeira, I thought was Coutinho in disguise, quality player. Ings was non-stop and showed quality at times, scored a totally legit goal (waved as disallowed). Gomez ok, nothing to shout about. Lucas and Rositter looked abit tired towards the end. Markovic looked a quality player - looking forward to see more of him, scored a good goal from a tight angle.

2nd half.
Oozing with quality in midfield with Milner, Henderson and Allen. Thais had no chance. Lallana and Ibe on the wings were just too much. Lallana quality is showing, the understanding and 1-2 with Henderson, Origi, Milner, so hard for defenders to play against. Ibe, I tell you he's the one to watch, always takes on defenders and his pace=explosive. Origi, initially thought he was Traore until he starting to hit the post twice and then scored a goal, quick lad and full of pace. If Benteke comes, his lay offs would be amazing for Origi. Clyne was just decent but the LB McGuire, he's the one to watch, amazing stuff, his crosses were good and overlaps precisely, Thais had a very very tough time marking the 18 year old who kept Moreno on the bench. As for the defense, they had nothing to do all night except for a save by Mignolet helped by a static ball due to torrential rain. Pitch after 75m was like a flooded field on a Sunday blizzard.

The ref was absolutely bad ruling everything against LFC including a totally legit goal. Body contact to him is illegal and Thais falling are fouls even if they fall themselves. Poor decisions throughout.

And finally for Brendan Rodgers, when he doesn't say anything, he is an outstanding coach. Let's hope he keeps quiet and just focus on training the team.

This game really set in motion the team workrate, ethics and attitude. After the game, Milner was already advising Origi on his positioning, etc. Overall it's an 'outstanding' performance by the lads.

14 Jul 2015 18:22:11
We did play Thailand Allstars XI not Real Madrid. The midfield barely got pressured once the whole match

14 Jul 2015 18:42:10
I also think luverpool'so preseason results have a bearing on our season. Last preseason we were terrible but the season before we were great and absolutely thrashing teams. Let's hope we continue the form during preseason and into the new season.

I really feel we've added true first team material this summer rather than simple squad fillers like last year. One striker (and Kovacic if we're aloowed to be greedy) and I'd think the summer incomings have been very positive.

YNWA!!!

14 Jul 2015 18:49:04
It's like this every summer.

People raved about Suso, Coates & Dunn last year.

They're stretching their legs - these aren't proper games.

The only thing I look for is the sense of fun, enjoyment, togetherness in the players.

14 Jul 2015 19:38:06
We won't be playing Real Madrid next season either.

14 Jul 2015 17:28:59
Good luck Raheem

At least no panic buying on our part.

All but done in the transfer market

These next 1 or 2 transfers will determine our chances for top 4 next season.

Last leg now Liverpool no mistakes.

YNWA

14 Jul 2015 17:32:00
Just a quick question, aside benteke, who else are we thinking the club has in mind or where else do they wanna strengthen?

14 Jul 2015 18:11:24
kovacic and benteke are the only 2 known targets. as for other than these 2 / backups to these 2, until we stop chasing them, we don't know yet.

14 Jul 2015 18:11:55
The Ed`s have said Benteke is the ONLY target.

14 Jul 2015 17:18:28
Origi scores which is great but pre season is nothing to go by, I remember a certain Mr. Aspas showing great potential in preseason too. I believe Origi will be better tho. Also I would like to see 2/3 more signings this window.
1 benteke- He is a good striker and prem proven
2 kovacic - I know we have plenty of mids but which would start ahead of him
3 Reus - Icing on the cake and most likely wishful thinking

14 Jul 2015 17:39:14
There's absolutely no chance of the third to happen. The first two could happen and should conclude our incoming a for the summer.

14 Jul 2015 17:41:46
Don't forget vorinin always looked class in pre season

Games like this don't tell you a lot because let's face it the opposition are crap.

Teixera for me needs a season in the championship along with rossiter

Ibe I'm a massive fan off but I'm worried about game time so probably best for a season on loan to another prem team.

If kovacic was to come that's got to be the end of Allen

14 Jul 2015 18:31:35
Lavers, You often post sense on these boards BUT why should he be loaned out for the third time in 3 years? If he wants to be a first teamer at a big club, he needs to compete and show what he can do. Personally, enuff with these loans that IMO, prove nothing in the end especially if you`ve been on loan twice already in successive years. Ibe has nothing more to prove that he can hack it in the first team especially in this LFC squad which is not as good as those in the recent past. He needs his chances and will get them otherwise, he will be another Sinclair wo will leave REGARDLESS of what is offerred to him.

14 Jul 2015 18:54:14
Redohio

I'm a massive fan of ibe always have been.

Just worried that at this stage of his career he needs to be getting plenty of game time. That's why it would have to be a prem team whereas last season it was the championship.

Suppose a lot depends on the formation we play if it's a front 3 then he will get games but if it's the diamond I don't see how he will play.

14 Jul 2015 19:03:26
Ibe was the Best player on the pitch ad say in 80 percent of his games. Keep him play him. Simple.

14 Jul 2015 19:03:28
Ibe has just broken through, why would we loan him. He should be played from the off in sterlings position

14 Jul 2015 16:38:26
Yesterday longshlongutd posted the teams that would play today in the first and second half he was bang on apart from 1 player (Moreno) who didn't play at all. This I believe solves the Moreno no show as an injury or food poisoning. A niggle from that session or something ate after and it all makes sense. Today we showed very good signs I'm glad to see origi looking like the player he was in the 2014 WC. Worst performers? Wisdom and lucas were the worst with lambert close behind everyone in my opinion had a good game. It'll be interesting to see how clyne and ibe get on throughout the season because their communication was none existant and they both seem to want to play the same game. Unfortunate about ings disallowed goal but being in the right place at the right time and finishing the chance is a good sign.

14 Jul 2015 17:06:37
It's hard for a defensive midfielder to impress against such a poor team though

14 Jul 2015 17:12:41
Or maybe Moreno is Ed2's surprise departure.

14 Jul 2015 17:43:51
It wasn't that he didn't impress it was more that he was pretty poor. Allen impressed in the same role in the second half

14 Jul 2015 17:55:19
Got a feeling similar user013

Something with inter maybe

14 Jul 2015 20:59:05
sam. nice your giving clyne time to settle ffs. 1st game an its started already. i do loose the will to live on the shite i read on this site sometimes.

14 Jul 2015 15:07:26
Good too see the lads back, I enjoyed the first half joe Gomez looks lively and I really like texeira hope they both get to stay no loans , just seen joe Allen with a beard in the summer shows his logic and captain hendo looking proud it's only pre season but nice from markovic and sakho, you think Moreno has knock ed?

14 Jul 2015 17:49:47
Agree with everything you've said but i just wonder whether Teixera will get any game time this year with Lallana, Coutinho & Firmino all ahead of him in the pecking order for the AM roles. I'd love it if he got a loan to a prem side but it seems unlikely at the moment.

14 Jul 2015 20:17:10
With what Rogers said in part of interview. seems like tex is going to get a chance this season,might just be cup games but atleast he's getting a chance

14 Jul 2015 16:29:34
Do you think liverpool have any chance of even attracting reus to liverpool?

14 Jul 2015 16:17:24
Dunno if you've seen it yet European Glory, but Henderson set up Lallana with a first time Rabona pass in behind the defence today.

Not bad for a ball winning centre midfielder with no creativity.

14 Jul 2015 16:26:27
I was about to post it as it looked good.😄😄 high five for that. If I am a manager I would unleash Henderson from the shackles and push him further up just like Vidal and expect him to score 10 goals a season.
I would still want Kovacic behind him just like Wilshere acts for England.

On an another note did you see Markovic? He is not a direct winger, a second striker just like Sterling.

But don't worry we will sell him and get one from Spain / Germany 😄

14 Jul 2015 18:00:00
i'm pretty certain hendo will reach double figures this season

14 Jul 2015 16:12:20
I know you can't read too much into the game but I thought Hendo, Llalana, Clyne, Origi, Teixera, Gomez looked particularly sharp and Milner, Markovic, Ings, Sakho all impressed too.

Still not sure about Allen/Skrtel/Lovren as a defensive setup through the middle, even if individually did OK.

14 Jul 2015 14:45:44
Is reus an option for liverpool eds. I have read your reply post about interest previous and present but there was no mention of liverpool does this mean a lack of interest

{Ed002's Note - See previous answer.}

14 Jul 2015 15:03:59
I know we had a lot more time then we will in any game this season but Lucas looked like he was trying to show his "Deep lying playmaker" capabilities. He played some truly fantastic balls forward into feet over 25-30 yards. as I said way to early to make any real conclusion but it was something I thought was interesting in the first half.
thoughts?

14 Jul 2015 15:24:08
I'm getting tired of all this DLP stuff.

It's funny that I've never heard a proper manager or coach talk about it.

There's way too much pigeonholing going on.

14 Jul 2015 15:55:19
You've never heard anyone say about a deep lying playmaker? Do you mean when your watching snooker?

14 Jul 2015 15:58:33
@Shane, Lucas is our own player, you hardly expect us to use our own player when we could sign two others to do a similar job!

14 Jul 2015 16:01:46
Well said User013. I believe Rodgers first coined the phrase when describing Gerrards role and now everyone has fallen for his propaganda and thinks it's a necessity. Lucas suits me just fine. Their are only a handful of holding midfielders who are solid defensively and also have asublime passing range. Matic, Alonso and De Rossi are probably the top 3.

14 Jul 2015 15:51:35
I'd never heard of it myself either before half way through last season but if you're just going to be cynical what was the point in posting. it still doesn't change the fact that Lucas took it upon himself to start off a lot of attacks by playing some very good passes. something that in my opinion he hasn't always done enough of. and with the still possible incoming of kovacic who does this very well and Gerrard who was played ahead of Lucas a lot because of that ability to start attacks from deep maybe it is a part of his game he has been working on. try have a point to your post next time please

14 Jul 2015 16:59:50
It is not something which Rodger's coined.It was first Ancelotti at Milan,followed by Albertini&Pirlo.Ancelotti especially prefers Deep Lying Playmaker.But these players were
played with proper ball winning midfielders.Javi martinez,Iturraspe are other players who did well in this position.

14 Jul 2015 17:03:44
Pirlo has been playing that position for Milan since 2003 and that phrase exists in Italy and France so BR is not the first one to use that phrase at least, in my experience. However, Pirlo for example had Gatusso and Ambrosini doing all the running for him as he had with Pogba, Vidal and Marquisio doing the same in Juventus. All in all, said position doesn`t fit the PL due to the game being faster and more robust than in italy, spain or france where the game is slowere, more technical and/or more defensive. Hence, play the DM (Lucas)who is effective there just as Matic is effective with Chelsea and stop with this deep-lying playmaker nonsense that clearly based on Gerrard and Allen being aweful at it, does NOT work.

14 Jul 2015 17:15:09
You've never heard of it but with the likes of say kaka and Pirlo at Milan, both are playmakers just positioned differently.

14 Jul 2015 17:26:19
My point was that all this talk of DLPs is pointless and it's being bandied around like its a real thing that can't be avoided. And we are panicking because we don't have one. And because we don't have one we are pretending that Lucas is one.

Nobody knows what it really means and so people are trying to bend reality to fit with some concept that doesn't mean anything anyway.

I can imagine Ronnie Moran ranting at Brucie to get back in his net when he went of on one of his wanders. "Get back in yer net ya . " I don't imagine he ever he ever spewed bile at some unfortunate midfielder "yer need to lie deeper and make more plays".

It's an invention. Descriptive at best but not something to fret about.

14 Jul 2015 17:45:01
User103,

The best one played for Liverpool. His name was Alonso.
The closest one to him is now at inter and we have interest.

14 Jul 2015 17:52:15
For the love of . Kaka wasn't a deep lying anything.

So the entire case for DLP being a real position is Pirlo. A very very good player. But I don't think he invented a new and essential position that we should be fretting because we can't fill.

14 Jul 2015 14:37:06
Hi Eds , first time poster here so be gentle😁 any chance of either Lucas Moura , Berardi or Balde Keita to replace sterling ?

{Ed023's Note - The focus is on Benteke at this moment in time}

14 Jul 2015 16:13:00
Lazar Markovic is a very talented player who plays very similar to Sterling for his country and Benfica.
If people here are generous enough to give the lad a chance to play through the middle he will score more goals than Sterling.
It looks like people want super stars from leagues outside England but they would never give the player here a chance.

14 Jul 2015 14:05:17
Good play Texeira and good finish Lazar

14 Jul 2015 13:56:20
Anyone know if Skrtel has been named vice captain?

Seems to be alongside Hendo and Rodgers a lot for photos and advertising and stuff - Could be wrong mind

14 Jul 2015 13:07:11
Further to Wavy's post:

I think the right question for which team has had the best transfer window is 'which team has improved their squad the most?'.

Chelsea - Little change to their starting 11, Falcao may be a great alternate to Costa but they won't play too much together. Begovic is a fine replacement for Cech.
Verdict - No change to the best squad in the league.

Man City - Sterling is an incremental improvement to their squad. They haven't addressed their problems with the waning Toure and Kompany nor do they have a reliable back up to Aguero if he gets injured.
Verdict - Strong but ageing squad that needs world class investment in it's spine to move forward.

Arsenal - Brought in a world class keeper, something they haven't had in a long, long time. Still lack grit in midfield and a world class striker to share responsibility with Sanchez
Verdict - On their day the best team in the league. How many 'their days' will they have?

Man Utd - Spending their way out of trouble with a lot more to come. Darmian should be adequate or better at right back. Centre of midfield is solid but unspectacular (Chelsea's and Arsenal's are still better). Depay may be stellar but may be another Lamela. Still need a world class striker, centre back and probably goalkeeper.
Verdict - Fixed a lot of problems but still need work to challenge Chelsea.

Tottenham - Alderweireld won't change much. Seem to be relying on their youth players to continue their progression.
Verdict - No significant change to their team. Won't challenge for fourth.

Liverpool - Clyne improves the defence but there are question marks over every other defender and the keeper. Milner is a solid signing but doesn't take them up a level. Firmino is a like for like replacement for Stirling. Ings is a decent squad player.
Verdict - No significant improvement to the team. The addition of a top striker should mean we at least challenge for the Champions League.

Overall Verdict:

Man Utd are the only team to significantly improve their squad but even then there are question marks about if it's enough to let them challenge for the title again. Arsenal are stronger and if they can remain consistent they are Chelsea's strongest rivals for the title. Liverpool will have to do better than City or Utd to qualify for the CL, something they can't do without a reliable striker.

14 Jul 2015 14:04:38
Well balanced post Imo I agree with most if not all

A united fan.

14 Jul 2015 14:33:24
None of the temas have finished with their Summer window and I expect some significant movement from Arsenal Cheslsea, City and UTD in coming days.
It would be Arsenal and Chelsea for the title and Liverpool and City or the 4th spot.

14 Jul 2015 14:52:19
Good post, I think we are marginally stronger than last year. We had so many young and new players last year that. At the very least I would hope Ibe, lallana, coutihno and markovic all have the potential to step up another level.

14 Jul 2015 15:22:12
1)Tottenham have done decent business by signing Alderweireld,it will improve their defence.But still need to do a lot of work.

2)Utd did really good business by signing Basti but there is his injury woes and Schneiderlin is perfect fit for the club.Midfield is lot stronger but still need to sign players in striker and defense department,also they lack really good wingers.

3)Liverpool properly replaced both Gerrard&Johnson.Firmino is upgrade over Sterling.We need Striker and CDM.could have signed better goalkeeper.

4)Chelsea was a strong squad and made like to like replacements with players leaving.

5)Man city got a good player in Raheem.But they have to buy midfielders and defenders.

6)Arsenal made the best buy in Cech.but they are 2 signings away from being a title challenging squad.

Verdict:All in all each team improved their squads.But Utd's and Arsenal's signings are game changer in race for top 4 or title.If Utd lose De Gea and don't get an able replacement then
they will be vying for top 4 spot with Liverpool and City.

14 Jul 2015 15:37:53
Excellent Post but i do think we are stronger this season than last, we have only lost sterling who has not been at his best for some time. I think Top 4 will be Chelsea, Arsenal, Man utd, Liverpool this season if we get a good pre season and coaching team do well with the players then we will finish top 4 man city may be buying but they need a lot of replacements for an ageing squad!

14 Jul 2015 15:59:28
indian scouser - united don't have decent wingers?

di maria, depay, young, mata.

14 Jul 2015 16:31:25
I agree to an extent but far to early to make these asumptions, the transfer window has only been open for a couple of weeks. I would expect 2 maybe three players to come in (Benteke, LB and possibly a playmaker). Liverpool have added some quality players and a new coaching team. Therefore, the hope is the management team can quickly help the players settle in and ensure their ideas are sink in quickly.YNWA

14 Jul 2015 16:40:07
We replaced Gerrard and Johnson with better, hungrier players. Can't say Firmino's better than Sterling until we see it on the pitch, but I'm willing to say I really think he'll do the job for us.

Gomez, Bogdan and Ings improve our squad options. Ings in particular could play a lot this season. I personally think we should leave Benteke where he is because I like Origi and Ings and think they will give more effort running in behind and pressing, even if they aren't the finished product Ben is.

But it looks like we'll get him, and I certainly won't be complaining. Hoping that for the coming season we see Ibe out wide, Markovic behind the strikers, and Lucas starting at CDM.

14 Jul 2015 16:52:40
i think the major deciding factor over the last number of years has been the champions being very strong defensively and at the moment Chelsea are still miles ahead of the rest.

Cech is a great signing for arsenal but they are still shaky at CB & DM.

City have just never been able to find a CB at the same level as Kompany and as a consequence have struggled when he's been injured.

United really need to hold on to De Gea and if they do I think they could push into the top two with the signings they've made. If they lose him I can see them going for Lloris who may struggle initially but would be quality.

If I was a spurs fan I'd be concerned if they were starting the season this weekend but no doubt they will strengthen.

We have definitely improved the first 11 but again I think the biggest mistake we've made is not getting someone to seriously put pressure on Migs. He showed potential towards the middle of last season but needs serious work with a coach to really break down his skill set and work on his deficiencies. I think we do have the quality at CB, we just need to find a good partnership that can work together.

I always head into every season with optimism and this year is no different. We cannot afford a slow start if we are going to challenge for top 4. Last year, even though we were so poor for large parts of the season, we could have snuck in had we maintained any sort of form going into the last 6 weeks or so. That's how close we are. I just pray the new coaching set up can sort out our defensive frailties and we can bang in the goals up top!

14 Jul 2015 17:00:18
Should of clarified that this is only so far. There's still 7 weeks to go till the window closes and I expect all the sides to do more.

14 Jul 2015 13:47:54
Given all the talk toward the end of the season was that LFC would not be able to go pay a fortune on players due to breaking FFP, would I be right in thinking that the Sterling money has already been spent.
Firminio - 25m
Ings - (burnly are asking for 8m compo)
Clyne 12m

Thats circa 45 million already spent !!!

14 Jul 2015 14:51:07
There are obviously some players to depart, such as Sterling being the obvious one. I'd imagine that there will be some movement or at least attempt to move on the following;

1 CB
1 Midfielder
Sterling
1 or 2 Strikers.

It's up for debate who those players are, but that's what I believe the club will try and move on.

14 Jul 2015 09:39:09
Eds I know the club has spent a lot of money and the window is still opened for many weeks but I would like your inputs on progress and team requirements.
There was a lot of discussion after last summers window from the Eds and many fans that we didn't target our weak spots.
My question is do the Eds think we have targeted these weak spots in this window and which position you feel we must target (if any) to really challenge for minimum top 4 and more importantly to actually challenge for the title as I think with the vast sums of money FSG have spent we really should be pushing for the title right till the end of the season.
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - A number of potential starters have arrived or are likely to arrive with Firmino, Clyne, Benteke, Ings and Milner. That is a pretty significant change to last season's team. Add to that two more defenders in Ilori and Gomez (both apparently promised playing time) and I think the team is ready to go. Sales will of course happen. I rather doubt a challenge for the title but that will be the expectation.}

14 Jul 2015 11:05:50
Ed does this mean Kovacic isn't going to happen? Shame that

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has had the opportunity to complete a deal for Kovacic - I have explained this over and over. They don't have the money to meet Inter's terms and are reluctant to meet the increased price Inter want under the terms Liverpool want.}

14 Jul 2015 11:31:33
Don't forget Digne, Medel and Reus! ;)

14 Jul 2015 11:36:27
Qny chance something might change with kovacic when sterling is complete?

Also how can wr target a player like kovacic, not get him and not have a number 2 target lined up?

{Ed002's Note - It really doesn't work like that.}

14 Jul 2015 11:49:32
There are only few player similar to Kovacic and we would never get him next year given Inter would try all they could to get inside the CL. they need to sell to balance the books and they are looking at adding more playes. They have very few player who would fecth some money.
I am some kinda optimistic that deal might go through ( end in the window )

My biggest concern would be liverpool would waste money on another player paying way over the odds if this deal doesn't go through ( panick buying late in the window )

14 Jul 2015 12:29:52
Well there's medel, illaremendi, arranguiz, Cabaye, Morgan s

I'm not saying whose better etx or whose as good as who.

What I would say is thete all similar to what kovacic is and would do for us.

So we decided on kovacic because we saw that as a need and when the deal hadn't come off there is no number 2 target and not likely to be. Juts benteke now.

Why??

If kovacic has fallen through why isn't thete another player who we have sort out and scouted

{Ed002's Note - Coming up with random names of players from various positions makes zero sense. Clubs do not buy players just for the sake of it - although you seemingly want Liverpool to do that.}

14 Jul 2015 12:37:01
cabaye has gone to palace mate

14 Jul 2015 12:43:59
Understanding all of the above ed and how long this has been going on & our reluctance to meet Inters terms and figures surely only means one thing.

14 Jul 2015 13:16:25
Yeah I had no idea 87red lol. Thank you :)

Ed002 you keep posting the same thing on my posts about wanting the club to buy for the sake of it etc

My posts are nothing like that.

The point I am raising is did/do the club only have Kovacic as a target for midfield? If so why? The names I mentioned are just a couple of players who are similar. I didn't say I wanted the club to buy them or they were attainable either.

For another example. We have targeted a striker and benteke seems to be the target, now if that doesn't come through is that it for strikers on our target list??

These type of players I now mention aren't players I want or players we should sign but for example the list should be

1/ benteke 2/ austin 3/ gomez 4/ llorente

So if benteke doesn't come off we should still have players who are similar who we can then target

And the same should go for Kovacic.

1/ Kovacic 2/ Cabaye 3/ Medel 4/Morgan 5/ Sanson

Again they are NOT players I want or players the club should sign but surely that should be how it is

Every tom, dick and Harry knows we need a playmaker in the middle and the club seem to aswel with the interest in Kovacic but since that hasn't come off what there's noone else??

Im also not just wanting someone Brought in btw, I'm not adverse to the club going with say someone like Textera (defiantly spelt that wrong) inplace of getting kovacic but aslong as the club identify (which they have with the bid for mateo) and fix that playmaker issue.

Really sorry for rambling ed and I'm not cobby with you it just frustrates me because I feel midfield playmaker is a player we really need and it's the one bloody transfer the club are dordling over.

{Ed002's Note - It really doesn't work like that. Clubs look to specific players to improve them - they don't have long lists of players.}

14 Jul 2015 16:59:10
Wells it bloody stupid.

Putting there eggs in one basket and then if that doesn't come off then what we know there's a problem that wr wanted to fix but wr just leave it.

I mean look at Chelsea. Some time back you said they were on the verge of d.costa then it turned to griezmann and now it looks to maybe br Pedro. There all players to get goals from the wing. So they have identified a problem and have a list of targets rather than one.

On another note the team looked good today and what a difference seing a striker run the channels in origi.

Clyne looked good :)

I was sat there and couldn't believe we still have firmino and coutinho to come back

What I will say though is we are knackered without a playmaker in the middle. Milner and Henderson will make a fantastic tandem, great performers and superb Ibjury records but they either need medel behind them to give them more freedom or kovacic to dictate play and Let them use there energy up and down the park.

{Ed002's Note - You don't this at all - there is no point keeping posting.}

14 Jul 2015 20:22:30
Leave like the man u page ed2 as your not helpful at all.

What's the point in doing this, when you can't be arsed with us

Anytime anyone proves you wrong or calls you on something.

You just go oh you fans don't get it, no point posting etc

Frankly it's pathetic

You chose to do this didn't you so why such.hostility with it.

Lighten up or sod off.

Man u page is much happier now.

14 Jul 2015 09:56:02
So which of the top 6 have done the best transfer business so far in respect of both ins and outs, notwithstanding the money involved? Thoughts?

14 Jul 2015 10:36:48
Arsenal

14 Jul 2015 10:07:42
MU clearly.

14 Jul 2015 10:08:23
Manchester United with gritted teeth.
If I had to rank them I'd say
Manchester United
Arsenal
Liverpool /Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspurs
Manchester

14 Jul 2015 10:08:32
May be too early but at the moment I think liverpool followed by United if money is not a factor. Once we get our hands on benteke I think it'll be a good window for us.

14 Jul 2015 10:12:59
The mancs unfortunately

14 Jul 2015 10:14:31
Arsenal - Cech by far best signing I think he could be player that wins them the league.

14 Jul 2015 10:14:39
Man Utd are targeting and fixing their problem areas, very poor in midfield last season so they have Schneiderlin in as a top DM and Bastian beside him to create going forward, problem fixed.
They'll bring in a top class striker next to get them 20 goals a season to go along with Rooneys 20 so no problem with goals. Delay will contribute 10 to 15 goals but will also supply great balls in for the man mountain of Fellaini.
If De Gea goes they will spend big and bring in a top GK too be sure of that.
I think they will have a great chance of regaining the title.

14 Jul 2015 10:19:55
United. They'be brought in quality.

14 Jul 2015 10:23:27
Arsenal for me. No major outs. Cech in.

14 Jul 2015 10:24:14
Utd. Depay looks awesome. We know Both midfield signing yesterday are of the highest level. If they keep De Gea, get Di Maria playing to his best then it's them or Chelsea for title.

Chelsea close 2nd. They already had the squad to best. Now add a top quality no.2 and you'd expect Jose to get something from Falcao who's now had a season here to adjust. Plus a couple of Brazilan youngsters which are tipped for the top.

It'll be interesting to see who City and Arsenal buy. But City are linked with spending huge of top level quality. It's difficult to see anyone breaking these for top four.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea will also announce a Chilean signing in the coming days and are still looking for a player or two - but perhaps not for the first team. And they have a very good player back from loan who will be part of the first team squad. Manchester United are pushing for a striker - as are Arsenal. City are looking toward a deal for de Bryune in the coming days but are focussing on selling a couple of forwards right now.}

14 Jul 2015 10:56:23
Cech is obviously a top signing fir arsenal

Clyne and firmino for us and getting 49mil for sterling.

Schneiderlin and depay for united look like good signings not to sure on schweinsteiger there's a reason bayern are willing to sell him now.

Don't see how falcao will fit in at Chelsea.

14 Jul 2015 10:58:08
I think ours is ok thus far. This will be diminished if we massively over pay for Benteke and sell Lucas. United are splashing the cash but they don't instill fear

Interested to see what else Arsenal and Chelsea do. I can see Arsenal pulling a Bender brother or similar type player out of the hat and massively improving their midfield steel.

14 Jul 2015 11:02:23
Arsenal, since Wenger listen Ed01 these days :). three signings all they need and they haev bagged one, With their interest in an upgrade on Coquelin and one class striker.
Agree with Sam.

14 Jul 2015 11:03:16
Probably Man U closely followed by us then arsenal

14 Jul 2015 11:12:38
I'm not sure about Outs transfer wise but in regards to INs, you might think I'm crazy and most likely no one will agree but the transfer window should be used for what teams need, and I mean really need. So I have too say arsenal, I think Peter cech is a massive component in regards to what arsenal are trying to achieve premier league wise. They developed a certain swagger towards the end of the the last campaign that for me was a consistent eye opener. They still could do with a top draw CB and Maybe a top 20 goal a season striker, but even without the striker prem wise, I feel they'll run chelsea close this season. The jury's well and truly out for us, so many new signings and changes I'm not sure anyone can predict what we will do but maybe that's for the best. Utd have made some astute buys but that defence cannot be over looked, there not poor players but for some reason they leave the back door key in full view of everyone and then de gea has to bail them out, even with the "schmidfield" if de gea leaves and they don't buy a leading CB this united renaissance may stutter but I expect further tactical tinkering so well see. Next for chelsea it's get falcao firing and back up for fabregas in the second half of the season and they'll be thereabouts as usua they've signed a couple young talented brazilians too but I'm not familiar with them. As for city the media are of the impression that sterlings answers all there problems, as though they had attacking problems, there problem was defence the constant changing of kompanys partner has had the skrtel effect. There unfamiliararity leads kompany to have cover for them and that entail leads to mistakes so city still need to shape up defensively. In my opinion mangala and demichellis are no world beaters but they'll still be top 4 even though I feel they have the weakest manager prem wise, inside the top four. As for Tottenham they'll no doubt scout other teams scouts and then proceed to outbid said scouts team therefore accruing numerous players they do not need which will end them up in the Europa league again only to rebuild again. And with Everton i strongly feel that without the dreaded Europa league, and the now addition of the tricky fan favourite winger delfoue (or whatever his cartoon character sounding name is) an believe it or not cleverly whom played his best football to date under Martinez, will make Everton a tricky opposition. So in summary: Arsenal : ).


Great question by the way.

14 Jul 2015 11:13:42
Guys i think we forgot O'Driscoll's signing.With the new coaching staff and by signing a striker if possible kovacic,then we have a squad to challenge for title and should defo get into top 4.We r only lacking in GK department.If United don't replace De Gea properly then they will have a big problem in defence.

14 Jul 2015 11:16:53
Id would say Arsenal. they've strenghtened their main weak point, but are still short in DM and could do with another Striker.
Man United, whilst doing well with Schneiderlin and Schweini have been naiive in leaving themselves short of strikers, so far.
Watford with Capue and Stambouli or Palace with Cabaye have done best business. Newcastle getting Windjalum is a great signing.

14 Jul 2015 11:22:46
Out of curiosity which strikers are Man Untied and arsenal pushing for?

{Ed002's Note - Try their pages.}

14 Jul 2015 12:13:49
United have signed the best by far and if the lose de gea could get in ramos and loris so would be overall better. But still think Chelsea for the title as their is little room for improvement. Lost Cech but got in Begovic and tbf off the top of my head think few if any signings made by any BPL club this summer would improve Chelsea's starting XI.

14 Jul 2015 12:23:45
Ibe, you question United's defense, they had one of the best defensive records in the league last year. 3rd least goals conceded I believe, they don't look much on paper or on tv for that matter but they didn't do too bad.
With Kovacic costing so much I wonder why we didn't sign Cabaye or Windjalum??

14 Jul 2015 12:42:45
andy,

de gea's performances over the season really flattered united's defence

14 Jul 2015 12:47:05
Anfield

Isn't that Ed01 has been saying we are not strengthning the position we should be doing.

14 Jul 2015 06:21:10
Ed's, much has been said about the relationship between Rodgers and the players.

To what extent do you think that bloke City signed was a catalyst or agent provocateur in this?

{Ed001's Note - it was a bit of both, though most of the issues were down to the results being perfectly honest.}

14 Jul 2015 08:08:53
Thanks Ed. I guess I was hoping that it might have been one rotten apple and so the problem is history.

14 Jul 2015 10:25:17
Wouldn't it be great if we finished 4th next year, winning a cup and city get 5th winning nothing.
It's a bit like when michael Owen left for silverware only for us to win champs league the very season. :)

14 Jul 2015 10:55:56
It wasn't Sterling leading the celebration of the 6-1 defeat to Stoke, check out the video in Dubai .

It wasn't Sterling who arranged for the players to travel to Manchester airport immediately after their showers at the Brittania .

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, I really have no idea what you are talking about.}

14 Jul 2015 11:19:04
You might not know what I am talking about , Ed, but most fans can't believe the celebrations that the players undertook in Dubai in the immediate aftermath of the Stoke game.

The Yaya dance video is available on Youtube, clearly the senior players thought that they had done enough at the Brittania to cost Rodgers his job. Watch the video.

14 Jul 2015 11:47:01
You are contradicting yourself Ritters. If the trip was arranged prior to the a Stoke game then the trip can't also be a celebration of the Stoke game can it?

The fact they organised a post season trip together prices absolutely nothing.

13 Jul 2015 23:49:47
Hi eds. This not for site post but hope it's ok. I have a ticket for the Brisbane game Friday but can't go. (Wife just had operation). Was wondering if you could put me in touch with (or ask for me) brisbane lfc or others in the area to see if they known anyone after a ticket. I'd rather it go to a fan and don't like putting tickets on ebay for money making. It's a single ticket for the Liverpool kop.
Again hope this is ok (long time reader but first post)

{Ed001's Note - I know you said not for the site, but I think this is the best way to do it, I don't like sending people emails without asking their permission first. This way people can let you know if they are interested and we can pass your details to each other through emails once you have spoken and both given permission to do so.}

14 Jul 2015 09:01:41
No disrespect to GCR, well in for not profiteering.
But why are games abroad marketed as 'Fenway Kop', such and such Kop ?
We all know the history of the Spion Kop name.
It just doesn't seem right.
I don't like that marketing. They should take that huge sign outside the stand at the ground down as well. Just my opinion.

14 Jul 2015 09:55:53
Who cares juicer.

14 Jul 2015 10:24:07
It's to give the overseas fans a taste of what it's like to be at Anfield. The Kop is one of the most historic stands in European Football.

14 Jul 2015 13:19:26
Thanks ed much appreciated

14 Jul 2015 03:12:22
Let's Start a new day with a nice little review from the eds.

Who do you think have done the best business between united and us?

Clyne- Darmian
Bastian - Milner
Depay - firmino

And potentially

Morgan - Kovacic
Benteke - Kane

Cheers ed would love you thoughts

{Ed001's Note - I don't think there is any question that on business done they have been better. They have targeted weak spots in the team and bought improvements. They are still looking to add a centre back and forget Kane for heaven's sake. He wants to stay with Spurs.}

14 Jul 2015 07:01:12
Schinder is the best signing they have done in years. He is exactly what they missed last season.
We need to pull Kovacic in else it would be a disaster.
There are very few players out there available who are as good as Modric and we need one of our own.

{Ed001's Note - who is Schinder?}

14 Jul 2015 08:28:30
Had we signed Jasper Cilessen then we would have beaten United for a GK.I hpoe if not now,we should sign him either in january or next season.Gone are those days when Liverpool had really great goalkeepers,just like we didn't win title for past 20 years,we are unable to buy suitable goalkeepers.

14 Jul 2015 08:32:59
He's the wonSp that writes lists and builds elevators.

14 Jul 2015 08:52:18
Comparing the transfers of both clubs in the last two summers is more or less like comparing the trophies each team won in the last 10 years. No comparison. They now have at least one better player than ours for each position on the pitch which the didn;t two year ago (plus on the bench plus in the owners seat). Do you really need the Eds to tell you what is a better business, Bastian or Milner?

14 Jul 2015 09:54:06
Darmian>clyne
Schweigi>milner
Firmino>memphis
Schneiderlin> whatever we sign because is the best defensive mid in the league bar matic so its a 3-1 in utd favor but they are a behemot financially and probably will sign more players like cavani and otamendi

14 Jul 2015 10:31:34
What's the evidence ti back up Darmian better than Clyne?

On current form does bastian really offer that much more than Milner?

Morgan isn't a dm. So he can't exactly be tbe second best in the league

I dint think any if us know enough about Fir and debay to even compare.

14 Jul 2015 00:59:43
Eds,
You guys seemed to get upset with some users for their attitude/conduct on the site. Maybe you could add a general guidelines list of rules at the top of the page along with a check list of players you've already answered questions on so we don't upset you guys and everybody doesn't see the same questions over and over.

Thanks

Also when will Reus to Liverpool be confirmed?

{Ed001's Note - that doesn't work, I have been doing this for 14 years now, do you not think I have tried those things before?}

13 Jul 2015 23:39:34
Ed's & fellow reds. While I have zero respect or care now for Sterling after his juvenile & pathetic way of leaving the club, I am disappointed in some moronic idiots who have, according to the BBC doing this, "Raheem Sterling's daughter targeted by Twitter trolls"
What ever we "fans" think of his actions let's hope these actions by some narrow minded idiots don't drag the great name of us real supporters in to the gutter with them. I know there will always be an element at every team fan base that are complete arse's (& that's insulting an arse), but for crying out loud leave out a child. I only hope they are not Reds supporters so whether you are a parent or not I hope you all share this view. WE ARE LIVERPOOL SUPPORTERS FIRST & FORMOST.

14 Jul 2015 09:02:35
Whilst I agree with everything you said I have to say the world has changed. Things like Twitter made this so. Surely any high profile professional is aware of these risks and in that, surely acceptable professional conduct would reduce these risks. I don't think sterling acted correctly and as such some muppets have chosen to have a pop. These muppets are in the smallest minority and cannot be classed as true fans. I just wonder what would happen to them if their names were leaked? mmmm breakfast

Just better to behave as a professional. It will not be the last time.

14 Jul 2015 00:35:00
I think the unexpected departure will be Alberto Moreno. Ever since Enrique started corrupting the spanish contingent I've felt like Moreno has been doomed.

His mate Manquillo has gone now and although Moreno has potential I don't think he'll ever master the art of defending. If I were to really stick my neck out and expose my crazy thought process I'd swap/Buy Moreno for Cheryshev and hope he becomes the next Bale, bombing down the wing.

None of this has any substance, purely my thoughts on the matter.

14 Jul 2015 06:12:36
So we play without a LB then?

14 Jul 2015 07:06:19
I have been racking my brain as to who this surprise departure could be, and i have come down to two midfield players i think it could be (and probably still wrong lol). Mainly as we have been linked with a move for Kovacic. The first player i was thinking is Joe Allen. For some people this may not be a surprise but for some it could be as a lot of us think he is a favourite of Rodgers. The other player i'm thinking is Emre Can. I wouldn't be thrilled with this but i can't see Lucas leaving with him being asked to stay in January. To be honest i think Allen probably needs to move on regardless. But if at the end we had Henderson, Milner, Lucas and Kovacic i would be more then comfortable with that. i'm probably way off lol but this is what i have come up with.

14 Jul 2015 07:25:42
You would be wrong. Moreno is the only LB LFC have and you think we will sell him? Moreno awaits Real Madrid's call and they will probably in the future, not now.

14 Jul 2015 10:49:51
I have a pretty strong feeling that the player is Lallana. I'm not 'in the know' or anything but after thinking about it for a while I think he's one of the only players who makes much sense - only been here a year and isn't expected to leave so fits the 'surprise' billing, and was unable to to nail down a position in the starting 11 last year (through no fault of his own, I add) in a a position that has become even more competitive this season. I hope it's not as I do like him, but it just makes a lot of sense to me.

14 Jul 2015 10:02:47
Madrid will sign gaya in the future because is better than moreno.

14 Jul 2015 12:39:30
Well, I'm convinced it's a centre back. Skrtel, illori, Gomez, sakho, Toure and Lovren is a lot of players all being promised game time next season.

Surely someone is leaving. Ed002 had said Illori and Gomez will be given game time which refutes the idea that Gomez will be sent out on loan - although perhaps a 6 month deal at Derby like Ibe had could be possible with 6 months back at the club then.

Skrtel has just signed a new contract and I might be wrong but I think Toure did too (not sure on this though). That leaves sakho and Lovren. Could we potentially see one of these two leave?

13 Jul 2015 23:19:20
Anyone help?

Liverpool fc TV are showing 'the match' against thai allstars tonight at 2am aswel as tomorrow at 2am both with the same description. Is it tonight and tomorrow a repeat as a suspect haha

Just before I stay up tonight for nothing!!

I think I Have answered my own question but would like to be reassured

14 Jul 2015 00:20:49
The fixture list shows it starting at 14:00, so I think it's tomorrow. Also, the time there would be something like 10am, so I doubt it would be at 2am

14 Jul 2015 00:36:22
It's not going to he 2am over there. For us to watch it live it will he on later here.

My question was lfc TV are showing it as tonight at 2am and tommorrow at 2am both with the same description.

So I wanted to know if tonight's was is the match and tomorrow's a preview or something else.

{Ed007's Note - A preview of a match that's already been played? So that's 2 a.m tomorrow or today depending on what days 2 a.m it is.. Got you :=D Does it say if it's going to be repeated, what time?}

14 Jul 2015 03:06:05
Repeat** not preview haha ed7

It's on lfctv on virgin. It had it as the match tonight at 2.am and then tomorrow at the same time so technical the 14th & 15th.