Liverpool Banter Archive June 03 2013

03 Jun 2013 22:47:11
Few reports just coming up about Mykhitaryan in the last 15 mins. Any truth in these? Thanks {Ed019's Note - No new news on him}

03 Jun 2013 22:12:29
hi eds, apologies if this has been asked before, but it just occurred to me that we're currently in the market for another center back, preferably a young one, now I know we've been linked with a move for papadopolous, but just a thought, is there any way that we could do a player+cash deal with Real Madrid for Luis Suarez, with the player in question being Raphael Varane? I know it might be a bit far fetched, but I'd really appreciate your insight on this matter, all the best, YNWA {Ed019's Note - Nope}

04 Jun 2013 02:55:54
Real wouldn't let go of Varane even if we offered loads of cash + Suarez!
Varane is their new Ramos and will be there for years to come.

03 Jun 2013 22:21:05
If Luis Alberto comes in, do you see Jonjo Shelvey definitely leaving then? They are kinda the same sort of player. And With Suarez, Downing and Shelvey all possibly leaving, with Aspas and Alberto possibly arriving, would you still expect 2 more attacking players to be brought in plus Aspas and Alberto? {Ed052's Note - I expect Shelvey to go}

03 Jun 2013 21:44:00
Hearing the Alberto deal will involve Suso on loan for the season! Cheers PDLFC

Why or what good would it do for Suso to play in Spain.
It would make more sense for him to gain experience in the English league.

03 Jun 2013 21:35:03
Hi Eds, with all the speculation on big names joining and leaving it might have gone unnoticed that Jordan Ibe played against QPR in the final game of the season. Just wondering who from the youth team you think might step up to the first team next season? Also I think it would be crazy to let go of Shelvey and/or Henderson, both are only 20 years old! {Ed052's Note - Teixera next probably}

Shelvey is 21 & Henderson 22

I've asked about the youth coming through 3 times without reply. Could anyone update on the progress and whether these will be first teamers.
Yesil
McLaughlin
Sama
Morgan. I know he made cup appearances but with Sturridge out and Suarez banned could he play with Borini and Downing in the front 3? {Ed052's Note - injured, will get a chance soon, last 2 wont make the cut}

Agreed shelvey should go on loan again he was great for blackpool.

Ed052, Thanks for working the boards and giving your answers as eloquently as you do, but your off the mark by a mile on Mc Laughlin. I fear he may be a tad injury prone but think he going to be Glenjo's successor after the 13/14 season IMHO. Speed, aggression, attack-minded and a decent defensive player and I watched him a lot this year. I hope I'm right. See him like a Rob Jones. {Ed052's Note - I agree totally with you mate. I said he will get a chance soon. I said ''wont make the cut'' to Sama and Morgan}

Ed52 do you think mclaughlin won't make it?heard great things about him! {Ed052's Note - No, I said he will get a chance soon. Look at the original post, and then what I said carefully}

03 Jun 2013 21:29:17
Is it just me that thinks we don't NEED another attacking midfielder, we already have a certain Coutinho for creative midfield, I think Coutinho is already one of the best attacking mids in the premier league, that's just my opinion though.

However I DO think we are in need of a top quality winger or two, THIS in my opinion is where the suarez money should be invested (if suarez was to actually go). I think this because I don't think downing is good enough, I like downing, he has come along leaps and bounds this season but I just can't see past his lack of quality, also henderson has often been shipped of to the wing, which is not his natural position.

Just a thought anyway, opinions are always appreciated.

JayMSFTS

Couldn't agree with you more! Forget Erikson and Benteke and start looking at some quality wingers.

And if Coutinho gets injured or under performs, what do we do?

03 Jun 2013 21:17:14
Any truth in rakitic rumours?

No. Ivan Rakitic will not be moving to Liverpool this summer.

03 Jun 2013 13:44:53
Ed's if Suarez does leave, which does seem more and more likely is Alexis Sanchez still an option. I seem to remember you guys mentioning him as a target if suarez left. Cheers eds

Loafmaster Flex {Ed023's Note - I would like to think so but a very slim one}

03 Jun 2013 20:57:09
eds or fellow posters, heard a lot today that strootman is a done deal pretty much for a move to united scum, I can't help feel abit gutted he isn't coming to us but hopefully we will get erikson.
do you think strootman is a good signing for them and is he enough to fix their midfield? {Ed030's Note - I think he is a similar player to Carrick so if you are correct about it being a 'done deal' then I should imagine he will take Carrick's place in the line-up. }

Maybe in the future Ed030 but he won't be replacing Carrick from day one IMO, the latter has too much to offer right now.

I think as a partnership they could be more solid than what we have now (United) and I think Strootman plays better from box-to-box so he could add that bit of dynamism. There are similarities though so in an ideal world I'd love United to sign a playmaker e. g. Modric to partner Carrick/Stroot in most games but I'm not sure we'll be splashing out that much.

Strootman is young and promising but he's got quite a bit to prove and certainly isn't in the 'world class' bracket yet. Obviously I hope he get's there and at the price quoted he should be a solid purchase.

HB

03 Jun 2013 20:35:49
I would advise people not to assume Ayre was in Barcelona just for Barcelona C. FSG we could be buying or selling to espanyol too?

Probably just using up his Tesco Clubcard vouchers on a weekend break?

03 Jun 2013 20:26:24
So looks like Everton signed Martinez we will see if we made a huge mistake or not now personally I think Rogers is doing grate but none the less will be interesting

03 Jun 2013 19:06:38
Any idea why ian ayre is in barcalona

Could be negotiating personal terms with Luis Alberto, given that he is on loan at Barcelona B this season. However this would only be possible if we've agreed a fee with Sevilla, which reports suggest we have.

He could even be out there for the young Sergi Canos. Maybe he only traveled from Barcelona airport?

The possibilities are far and many in regards to why he was out there.

It's Sanchez mate.

03 Jun 2013 20:45:51
Well I'd have thought it's for Tello. BR thinks he fits the profile. Does he have a 10m euro buyout clause Eds

Alfie {Ed052's Note - not as far as I'm aware. I'll check}

03 Jun 2013 19:54:22
Ian Ayre has just been spotted on a flight coming back from Barcelona, the evidence is all over twitter. Wonder who it could have been for. Sanchez? Tello? Delofeu? I doubt Reina as I believe he is staying. And not Alberto as he is a Seville player.

03 Jun 2013 19:42:57
Out of all the strikers we are currently linked with.

Gomez.
Soldado.
Muriel.
Benteke.
Gameiro.
Higuain.

I think only a few are attainable. In Muriel's case a work permit could be an issue due to gametime played.

My preference would be to sign Muriel and loan him back to Udinese for a season. Apparently his fee would only be in the region of 12-15 million (as quoted by Tim Vickery). The striker I'd want to come in now would Soldado. I believe he could fit straight into the team and would cost in region of 15-20 million which for a player in his prime is a great deal.

Muriel would then effectively arrive next summer with a seasons experience of Serie A under his belt to add to this seasons.

Jonesred

So, let me get this right: Carroll is going to West Ham, Suarez is probably leaving, Sturridge could be out for up to 3-4 months, leaving us with Fabio Borini whos played about 20 games for us, scoring two goals. And you want to buy a striker for 12-15m, quite a chunk of our budget, and loan him out? Completely beyond me mate.

RedKopite

03 Jun 2013 19:15:41
Please answer eds!

With regards to Suarez leaving, I think 50M is a good price. It's horrible to see great players leave but like Torres we will find someone else to fill the void.
My question is this. Will all monies received in transfers be put back into the team. Suarez 50M Carroll 15M and between some of the names going out another 20M plus. Could BR have a 25 M budget plus the sales 85M. I don't have a problem with that and I'd like your and other posters opinion {Ed052's Note - yes, all monies in will be used}

Ed how can u say all money from sales will be reused? isn't it quite common regardless of the owners that they pocket a bit of the profit and use some of the cash on players {Ed052's Note - It is, but the owners want us to be self sufficient, so will re-invest all the money, don't worry, as well as putting in more of their own}

03 Jun 2013 19:12:03
Is christian erickson on way to Liverpool

Yeah just seen him in John Lennon air port

03 Jun 2013 18:53:10
With Higuain sure to leave its almost 100% sure that Suarez is Reals no. 1 target {Ed030's Note - He is one of their primary targets. }

03 Jun 2013 18:17:51
I have just had a picture message from my mate who has just flown into Liverpool airport from barcelona and ian ayre was on the same flight, the picture was of ayre walking out of the airport, not a great deal of info I know but it could be player related buying or just maybe suarez related selling, who knows. Just thought I would pass it on. {Ed030's Note - I have posted it on the site for you waro. }

03 Jun 2013 19:11:09
Thanks ed30.

Waro {Ed030's Note - No problem. }

I can't see the picture Eds, does it take time to go up?

The real AG {Ed030's Note - If some has posted it on the sightings it should be up soon. }

03 Jun 2013 17:57:55
If Suarez goes along with Carroll, we will have a considerable amount of money available. If we sign Aspas I do not believe we need another Striker.

If we spend £40m on Eriksen and Lamela, to add to Coutinho, a mobile striker ahead of them would receive a hell of a lot of pin point through balls and space, so much so that it wouldn't matter if it were Sturridge, Borini, Aspas, or even Heskey up there (maybe not Heskey!), they would all have imperishable ammunition to put teams to bed.

Whilst LFC have declared no interest in Lamela and Roma have turned down bids from City, I maintain hope that Suarez's sale will force the scouting department to look for players with high end goal scoring ability and technique such Lamela who can provide a clear instant upgrade on the existing starting 11 player (Downing).

Nevertheless, given our existing squad and the money to inevitably come from sales, it is either going to be an extremely exciting summer window or a complete eff-up.

Cheers JK

03 Jun 2013 17:17:43
Ed & Reds if we sell.
suarez 45-55 mill
Carroll 10-15 mill
Skrtel 8-12 mill
An others ( assaidi, Coates spearing ECT ) 15 mill

That's roughly 80-90 mill an if owners five any money wer talking around 100 mill will Rodgers have all that? If so I think he would build the squad to an unbelievable level, look at sturridge & countino combined 20 mill uality signing I would love Rodgers to have that much to spend, one can only dreams.

Opinions?

InRodgersWeTrust

03 Jun 2013 17:11:43
With Mallorca relegated, have scouts had any interest in Dos Santos? I'd l think he'd fit well with Rodgers gameplan, no? I've only seen much of him playing in the national side and he has hunger and skill. {Ed002's Note - Why not list all of the players from all of the relegated clubs around Europe - standard answer for random players is No.}

03 Jun 2013 17:01:22
Eds fellow reds, Jose back then. Almost make roman abramevish look a stupid, why sack him in the first place {Ed030's Note I recall it was over a disagreement over transfer. }

He made him look stupid after he left by doing nothing at all and seeing Chelsea slip.

MIKEY

03 Jun 2013 16:34:51
Any news on the purchase of Luis Alberto. ie is it still going ahead. kls {Ed002's Note - Time will tell.}

Barca have the 1st option on him but that clause expires on June 15th I believe. That's when we'll know more

03 Jun 2013 16:30:49
Why haven't Liverpool yet released the extent of Sturridge's ankle injury? It would appear the signs aren't good on this one.
Ciario80 {Ed002's Note - Why should they rush to tell you? Once the player is back at the club he will be assessed and they will get on with whatever treatment is needed.}

They don't have to rush to tell me anything, but they did originally release an article highlighting he would have an imminent scan on the ankle. Therefore being a fan and as a result a stakeholder in the club, logic would suggest fans would be informed with a follow up to their orginal article. Considering the scan is not a nearly a week in the process it would not be illogical to think there may have been non-straighforward findings from the scan ergo the club aren't releasing any further information, possibly consulting further opinion on the matter. Quite simple really when you don't retain a obtuse and condesending attitude towards every simple query.

Ciario80

Possible because its a nasty one and if teams know we're already without Suarez for the first 6 games, if he stays that is, maybe they don't want to appear too desperate to add reinforcements and avoid being held to ransom over targets?

03 Jun 2013 16:11:54
My wishlist for next season.

Out
Suarez 40m
Carrol 15m
Downing 5m
Spearing 2m
Shelvey 4m
coates 4m
skrtel 10m
Reina 10
Total 100m

In

Mignolet 7m
Muriel 18m
Benteke 18m
Erikson 15m
Aspas 8m 66m
Carlos Zambrano 6
Alberto Botia 5m
Tiago Ilori 5m
Grenier 15m

Total 97m


We don't need Papadopolous {Ed030's Note - 9 in 8 out bit drastic don't you think mate. }

And we still manage to not spend all the money they owners be happy with you mate {Ed002's Note - Maybe he should check his math.}

Be a lot easier just to support a new team!

Love the comment from the guy above^^^

I'd go with.

Outs

Carroll.
Suarez.
Downing.
Skrtle.
Coates.
Pacheco.
Spearing.
Assiaidi.

Ins. (hopefully).
Eriksen.
Papadopulos.
Ilori.
Sanchez.
Alberto.


Jonesred

03 Jun 2013 15:45:56
Hatem Ben Arfa, Xabi Alonso and Arda Turan are the priority targets.

All relevent enquiries have been made regarding the players above and negotiations are in progress.

Should Suarez depart Benteke will become Liverpool's new no9.

Should Reina depart Mignolet will be his replacement.

Papadopoulos will not be moving to Liverpool [due to Schalke's valuation] and Skrtel will remain at the club.

A quick note regarding Eriksen. Liverpool remain keen, but Rodgers has made enquiries elsewhere should Nothing materialise.

I will keep you updated.

De1boy

03 Jun 2013 16:18:38
who is going to be the new number 7 then as that's suarez number. lol Tommy Irish Red

Bernard from Brazil is our new number 7 {Ed002's Note - Bernard may well be moving but it will not be to Anfield.}

03 Jun 2013 15:21:59
Mcmanaman agent seen with Ayre yesterday, maybe nothing but the scouse connection will get tongues wagging

F*****' 'ell; I thought Toure was old!
Now Stevie Mac's comin' back?!

03 Jun 2013 14:55:59
So Mourinho is back at Chelsea, can't see that Demba Ba would be his sort of player. do you guys think he could be for us?. he's strong, can finish, good in the air ( both attacking and defending ). I'm not sure myself but as and when Suarez goes, we could get Ba for reasonable money and use the suarez dough elsewhere. thoughts?

Hmmmm, big centre forward who can hold the ball up and score now who does that remind me of I wonder? Not his type of player? Are you sure mate?

Demba Ba has serious knee issues and he is not really good anyway. He is an accident waiting to happen. If we want top4 next season, we should be signing or at least attempting to sign players like Soldado, Gomez who can score 20+ goals a season.

Agreed, could be a good deal (at around 10-12m maybe) however for Ba to work we would also have to sign another top-class midfielder IMO, like Eriksen (for maybe 15m).

RedKopite

Ba could be his kind of player. He rates Drogba over ronaldo and they are both strong solid strikers

gareth

Know what you mean - but think he's a wee bit better than AC. only a thought that he will prob be on his way out the door . but your probably right.

To the original poster u just listed every part of ba game that is everything drogba was and u say ba is not jose type!


pinky

03 Jun 2013 14:53:06
Ed 002: Are you happy with the new Chelsea Manager?
Would love us to get top4 and meet up with you again in the Champions League.
They were special nights under the floodlights. {Ed002's Note - I am fine with him.}

Is David Luiz likely to be moved on then ed002?
And, if so, Chelsea are in the market for a centre back, like us. As are City (presumably), Arsenal, Spurs.
I can see Papadopoulos going for silly money.
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - Chelsea have not been looking for a CB to replace Luiz but for other reasons but they considered Papadopoulos way too expensive (as did MCFC and Dortmund - who have bought elsewhere) and Chelsea have another target now. If an offer is made for Luiz that is acceptable to the club they will ask him what he wants to do and tell him they would rather he stay.}

03 Jun 2013 14:44:18
Could you see lfc buying muriel and benteke if suarez and carrol are both sold?

Basy

Muriel and Benteke sounds like a detective series:)

03 Jun 2013 14:39:12
Hi, any of the eds know how long sturridge is likely to he injured for? Thanks Jay {Ed002's Note - Nope.}

03 Jun 2013 13:40:34
Eds, I have a question, you say Eriksen deal is very unlikely, but why? Why don't we atleast bid for him and TRY? at 10 mln he would be a STEAL? In my opinion its ridiculous. {Ed002's Note - Done to death. Try the search engine.}

03 Jun 2013 14:39:37
Didn't you know?
Eriksen talks a lot about everybody!
He has sent "come and get me" pleas to PSG, Manchester City, Dortmund, and the spanish giants! Dortmund want to pay ajax 10 mill only and Ajax are waiting for higher bids! Doubtful because as you see he wants money and will propably end up on some big clubs bench!

If he would rather play for Dortmund or Spurs then f**k him. He isn't as good as Gerrard or Coutinho anyway. We need defenders, a wide forward and now a Striker

03 Jun 2013 13:44:00
Have any clubs shown interest in Ward-Prowse of Southamton? Couple of my mates think he has a massive future ahead of him!

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA {Ed002's Note - Try the Southampton page.}

So do Saints Sam! So, he is staying put.

03 Jun 2013 12:51:55
Can we replace Luis Suarez with Cesc Fabregas? I think that would be a good idea

I do not think we can attract Cesc Fabregas at the moment.

03 Jun 2013 13:26:04
Fabrgas would be competing for a position with Gerrard. I don't see that happening.

03 Jun 2013 13:45:36
Hi Eds,

Great Job! I have suggestion to make, Lot of people here including me would be asking same questions about players arrival and departure in different words. It would really help you guys, if you could stick the summary on top of the page.
I know you have tried and it did not work out. May be you could see at least 20% drop (2 out of 10 posters) in repetitive questions. Especially during this summer window

cheers
Hem {Ed002's Note - Why don't you read the posts or use the search function?}

You made a pathetic ..... {Ed002's Note - Another abusive vegetable who won't be back.}

Rooney would be a good buy if he looked at it as a job and we looked at him as a lfc player

03 Jun 2013 12:48:02
Just to try and get a fan's opinion.
Would people be happy if we signed Benteke?
Or is there someone else fans would rather have.

I would prefer Soldado, I know he is 27 and older than Benteke but if he scores goals and gets you top4 who cares?! Just look at RVP.

Anyway, Benteke Yes or No?

Thanks,
Puzzled Red

Benteke or Muriel

03 Jun 2013 13:11:02
I have just spent half an hour typing up a post to say a massive yes, purely out of coincidence, so heres an extra YES for you :) Hoping it gets posted on here, but it may be on the teams page as soon as the Eds have combed it with their keen eyes. {Ed002's Note - We cannot put Team posts here Adam.}

I do not know, to be honest.

I suppose he offers a more straight forward option than Luis Suarez roaming everywhere, and may form a good relationship with Sturridge, Coutinho and Aspas etc with his more direct and sensible play.

Obviously if he can perform for us at a high level, I would have to be happy.

03 Jun 2013 13:27:52
he is an execptional striker. I would love him to be in Liverpool fc. and out and out CF.
My frnd is in spain for holiday and I asked her to get me a shirt, she imediatly said. MESSI BARCA.
Naaa. Roberto soldado Valencia FC

Spurs are and have been interested in soldado for about a year now as for benteke they have been offered the player 3 times and are not interested in the him! Could have a clear run at the player then

Benteke is a massive yes from me
Carlo

Even though I am not the best admirer of Benteke, taking into account that we have no chance with Lamela, Muriel would struggle to get work permit and is relative unproven. has weight issues and interest in Soldado is non-existent now, I will be OK with Benteke.

The real AG {Ed002's Note - Lamela needs a work permit as well.}

03 Jun 2013 13:38:26
Yes to Benteke
Yes to Soldado

Would prefer the Korean lad from Hamburg to be honest. Looks like just the kind of forward we need and he's only 20. Son Hueng Min I think his name is.

Out of Soldado, Benteke and Muriel, I'd go with

1. Soldado.
2. Muriel.
3. Benteke.

Jonesred

03 Jun 2013 10:48:02
Hi eds/all Hope all is well!

Just a couple of questions about some of our youngsters, Sterling, Suso, Wisdom & Ibe.
I think all 4 have the potential to be top players for us, only I don't think they're ready just yet. What would you expect to happen with these 4, a loan out to clubs such as Cardiff, Hull etc maybe?
I wouldn't loan them to a championship team, I feel they need premier league experience, any news on them eds?
Thanks.

03 Jun 2013 09:11:09
hi eds do you know of any interest in any of our young players being loaned out? think yesil, ibe and maybe a few others would benefit from this {Ed002's Note - It is rather too early for most clubs to be discussing loans. }

*This post was today mate, like 3 hours before you asked the question. You could've hit loan into the search function and it would've likely been one of the first, or you could just scroll down for 5 minutes. Either way, I hope this summarises why you got no reply from the Editors. RTFP.

I suppose it is all determined via the recruitment we undertake this transfer window.

I would like Wisdom, Sterling, Ibe and Suso, to be playing first team games with us, as and when we need them next season, which for Sterling, Suso and Ibe may be frequently, though I do have time for Wisdom in the first team.

03 Jun 2013 12:27:59
Ed after watching brazil game last night I was wondering what team does Hernanes play for and what would his value be {Ed002's Note - Lazio.}

03 Jun 2013 12:22:17
With the EDS saying its getting increasingly difficult to get solid info out of the club, which IMO is how it should be, how reliable are the reports of us having such strong interest in Aspas and Romero, both would be quality additions

Also with the still on going controversy that is Luis Suarez and it now looking likely this will be the end of him does anybody know if his transfer fee would be re-invested in player sales as would take a lot to replace him

One last question, how serious is Sturridges injury and will he be missing from all of pre-season and maybe the start of next season

Cheers
Mikecass
JFT96 YNWA

03 Jun 2013 12:03:14
Quick question eds, should luis move will he have to complete his 10 match ban? Will the teams interested look to hold us to ransom over those remaining games in relation to what they're prepared to pay? (without going into too much detail about the finances) {Ed002's Note - It is up to the individual FA but if he moves in Europe they will recognise and uphold the ban.}

03 Jun 2013 11:57:06
At the end of the day i'm thankful its a striker that's wanting to go, I always feel they're easier to replace, don't get me wrong Luis is a world class player but i'd be more concerned if it had been Stevie or Carra a few seasons ago. players come and go but some are more difficult to replace than others, strikers are that bit easier to replace

How come teams at the bottom of the league struggle to score goals?
It's always been the other way round, the hardest thing in football is putting the ball in the net. That's why Messi is a superstar and Jordi Alba is just a good player similar to lots of good fullbacks.

03 Jun 2013 13:36:37
kidmillions
top draw. and its so hard to get someone who wants to play for our shirt.
coming from madrid and barca players like higuan and tello would never play for us with their heart.

I am now seriously concerned about Harry Scouser. Just a couple of posts above, you rave on about Suarez and how he is this and he is that. Now, you just do the opposite from what your other reply hinted, that is you want loyalty in players.

The real AG

03 Jun 2013 11:39:26
Just a quick question if Suarez does leave who do you think will replace him? That aspas looks average and isn't a prolific goal scorer so no do you think will come in?
Cheers, northern red. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

03 Jun 2013 12:57:03
Robin Terrance Persie?

03 Jun 2013 11:14:17
I've got to laugh at some of the comments regarding certain players not being able to adapt to the English weather.

Apparently, Coutinho will struggle with a bit of snow etc etc.

Hulk is ****ed then.

Who would of thought we're all human beings?

Oh, I forgot, them Brazilians are use to playing in speedos on a beach and tensing their muscles to the bakinii clad fitties with tanned cheeks walking past.

How could they adapt?

Fannies they are - the lot of 'em!

DaveyBootle

I'd rather not invisgage Hulk in a bikini to be honest. Keep taht one to yourself Davey.

Sam Adzii JFT96 YNWA

03 Jun 2013 11:07:29
Question for all, if Lucas is as great as you all say, how come he's never in the brazil squad? I'm one of the very few that backed him when he first came to our club, before you start giving me loads. I thought he was bought as a CAM but to be honest I think he's nowhere good enough, yes the stats say his passing, tackling ect are very good. But everytime I watch him he looks like a calamity! Just want to know why brazil won't use him?

He was captaining the side before his injury last season. If you can't acknowledge Lucas' game then you don't really, well, know a lot. Fantastic player who I have every faith will return to top form next season.

Luc YNWA.

I agree lucas has improved but still not good enough

Pre injury he was very good and Gerrard also thought he was the player of the year also.

He is not flashy but does the ugly boring stuff really well

Gareth

Strange then how when he came back from injury our team seemed to pay more open effective football, tells me that even if he hasn't got the skills of some players the rest of the other players trust him enough to open up their play.
Just because he Brazilian without the flare or the diniho at the end of his name doesn't make him a bad player.
To me he makes us more solid and a better team with him in it


Lifelongred

03 Jun 2013 13:27:43
lucas is the type of player who let's other players who have the skills to hurt the opposition get space and time, I would say the likes of phil coutinho and suarez gerrard would have nothing but praise for his ability on a pitch. as for not getting on the brazil team there is plenty of players with great talent can't get in prob the best team in the world. Tommy Irish Red

His 20+ caps for Brazil obviously never really happened then.

A few bitchy comments their, for a start Lucas was captain of the u 19s never the full brazil squad so behave! I don't doubt what he does for us, I would just like to have someone who offers more. Like make a killer pass or add a few goals.

Hence the reason why brazil were easier to open up than ROI. Lucas doesn't get into the team cs he isn't the typical brazilian flair the fans want but i'd say he would add a bit of steel to that team. Brazil remind me of Arsenal a few years ago when everyone the fielded could play football but had no solidity to their game

Carra won hardly any caps for England?
So not winning many caps for Brazil doesn't count.

As a brazilian I can tell, Lucas is highly rated in Brazil, he was THE favorite player of our last manager, Mano Menezes (both worked together at Gremio and Mano tried to bring Lucas back to Brazil while he was at Corinthians when Lucas was still trying to cement his place at Liverpool). When Scolari returned Lucas was still recovering from his injury and he picked some other options ahead of him like Gremio's Fernando. There is still time for Lucas with Scolari being heavily criticised for playing a team wihout a holding midfielder at times (like yesterday against England, when he took Luiz Gustavo off we went on an all out attack team and scored via Fred, and then Chamberlain equalised in no time. Scolari then tried to make it right again with Fernando coming in). Anyway, Fernando is too young and Luiz Gustavo is not impressing enough. Lucas and Tottenham's Sandro still have good chances once both became FULLY fit.

03 Jun 2013 10:37:00
ed 52, I've read through the posts there and three names that have popped up have been Muriel, Mkhitiryan and Lamela. Whilst some eds have suggested that if Suarez leaves, Lamela and Muriel are both possible, less is said about Mkhitiryan. I read a month are two ago that he had switched agents to try push a move to Anfield, is that BS? IMO, selling Suarez and Carroll and bringing in this 3 players would massively improve are team! would people prefer one world class striker, or three very good additions to the starting 11? thanks ed. keep up the good work! {Ed052's Note - those 3 have been covered in so much detail. Please use the search function, or, read through the posts as they've all been covered recently]

03 Jun 2013 10:40:43
Happy 121st birthday Liverpool football club! Craig (Wales)

Happy 121st Bday LFC!

The real AG

03 Jun 2013 09:16:34
In Brendon I trust! If it was down to some of you we would have Gaston Ramirez instead of Coutinho and Luk de Jong instead of Sturridge! Come on slaters own up and chew your words!.

In Brendan I don't trust

We have Borini & Allen

Damn 2 players who have been injured most of the season. TERRIBLE MANAGER.

What an person they have both played next to no games for the club in a transition period and you are bad mouthing your own manager and players! Joe Allen was playing injured!
It's supporters like you that give this club a name mate! I suppose you want Rafa back spending 100s of millions!

Borini and Allen have both shown glimpses of promise. Allen before his injury was one of our better players and the last few games of the season were probably Borini's best since joining. His movement is exceptional and with Coutinho and hopefully a couple others feeding quality into him and other strikers, he's clinical enough to bag a few.

"We have Borini & Allen"

Two players who have suffered with injuries.

There are some helmets on here.

What about Coutinho and Sturridge?

Let's see what they do this season, if they don't produce, then fine.

DaveyBootle

03 Jun 2013 09:56:24
if we bought foster from wba we would have foster and allen lol. Tommy Irish Red

Not so sure you will be so glowing about Coutinho after he has played more games, through an English winter, and taking a few kickings.

Fear he could fade as the season progresses.

That anti-Rodgers sentiment whiffs faintly of eau de waro (unsigned)once again!
Hmmmm I see a bit of a pattern forming here! {Ed002's Note - Waro has always signed his posts.}

03 Jun 2013 10:37:17
Borini is a youngster who has been injured. Allen is a youngster who has been carrying an injury for half a season before going for surgery. Yesil has also suffered injury.
I am happy in the thought that all of the above will improve next season.
Assaidi could join the group above, or he could be sold for a fee probably the same as what we paid. Minor loss. Sahin was Rodgers only balls up. He was not good enough to. Displace Gerrard and refused to play an attacking role.
Sturridge and Coutinho have been great buys.
If I rated them all out of 10 (for good business, not current abilty, and I base this on fee and potential):
Borini - 5
Allen - 6
Yesil - 6
Assaidi - 5
Sahin - 2
Sturridge - 8
Coutinho - 10
42/70 isn't bad. This is purely to translate opinion into a visual statistic btw. Borini Allen Yesil and Assaidi all either cost little or are likely to improve (or both in Yesils case) and Sturridge and Coutinho will improve, got good value and had an instant impact. Sahin was the flop, but that was more down to Gerrard coming back so strong. Imagine if Gerrard had got crippled again and missed 70% of the season. Sahin would have stepped into his favoured position and been good. I think Nuri was an insurance policy personally.

YNWAdam

Yeah coming over in January when we had such a mild winter was no test for Coutinho, wait until there is snow on the ground and it is really cold.

What the hell has the weather got to do with it?Lucas has had winters here? is Messi crap when he's got his gloves on?

Its obvious some fans like BR no matter what

He won't deliver nothing except excuses!

Apart from this site BR is not well liked why is that?

Eau de Truth

03 Jun 2013 13:47:41
BR has the support of almost everyone at the club and those who pay and go to games, 99% of BRs bashers are found on this site! Your truth is nothing but deluded lies!

In BR we trust!

03 Jun 2013 09:13:00
I for 1 am disappointed at suarez for saying he wants to leave yes he has been outstanding for us but the backing the fans an the whole club have him after the racism the biting an everything else he has brought to the club I thought he owed us more than that after all the support but if he wants to go then fine no player is or ever will be bigger than LFC

03 Jun 2013 08:57:33
Nothing would make me happier than seeing 65m (ish) from Suarez and Carroll being reinvested into Lamela, Muriel and Mkhitaryan. Other sales and investment from the owners can then be put towards other signings.

I'd target: Lamela 18-25m
Muriel 15-20m
Eriksen 12-15m
Aspas 6-9m
Luis Alberto 4-6m
Alderwield 6-8m
Kolo Toure FREE
Luis gustavo 8-10m (can play DM LB CB)

Outs: Suarez 45-60m
Carroll 12-15m
Borini 6-8m
Downing 7-10m
Assaidi 2-3m
Spearing 2m
Shelvey 5-7m
Skrtel 10-15m
Coates 3-5m
Carra

I don't think that side would be too far away!

Great

All those deals are sooooo easy to do!

Whats keeping BR!

03 Jun 2013 08:38:44
Suarez signs for Madrid, doesn't hit the ground running, he gets benched and criticised by the press and labelled the worst value signing of the season.
It happened to Modric, do you think if it happened to Luis? There'd be trouble. (He likes to be the first name on the teamsheet and play the full 90 minutes of every game)
He could find out quite quickly that sometimes, it just fits? ( Like at Liverpool Fc ) and sometimes it doesn't.
I wish him all the best if he leaves, he's a fabulous player but also one that could just be best suited to the Premier League with LFC and not hit the same heights elsewhere for one reason or another.

Suarez will play anywhere, he is special player, not many players from nothing score goals. other strikers need good crosses/passes. he scores from nothing

What a load of nonsense

Such backhanded compliments

Suarez will play well in any league

I think if Suarez does sign for RM then he just becomes another big name player at a massive club. He would just have to suck it up.

The Irish Rover

I think he will do very well in Spain, but won't play every game at Madrid like you say. He will also do something incredibly stupid again there as well.

MIKEY

This isn't a 'nonsense' post. I didn't think Torres would be such a failure at Chelsea, in fact I thought he'd be even better than he was at Liverpool. It's an interesting thought and it IS possible for Suarez to dip after playing for us.

However, I don't think he will. Suarez looks too feisty and just too star quality to start playing poor in a different team. I think he'd be class whoever he played for because he tries hard himself; not relying on others.

A good thought though. An interesting question would be if he didn't play well for Madrid, would you take him back?

03 Jun 2013 10:02:43
i see what the kid is saying he will have to get used to not being the main player everyone looks to do something special and 1 r 2 bad games and he will be on their bench he is sort of player that will not like to be on anyones bench. Tommy Irish Red

Madrid and Barca, at present, are the Ronaldo & Messi shows respectively.
They're both the fulcrum of so much football.
Look at the cases of Alexis Sanchez, and David Villa to an extent. Both reduced to non-striker supporting roles. Whilst numerous Real strikers are reportedly up for sale.
It will be interesting to see, if and when, Bayern show their hand.
But Luis is unpredictable, to say the least, and who knows what could happen.
The Juicer

He, s paid to score goals? There were plenty of doubters in his first season with us.

I personally think Suarez would be a hit in any team or league.
But there is a chance that with especially a personality like Luis it doesn't quite fit for various reasons mentioned which could lead to a loss of confidence and form.

Whether you like it or not, Suarez will always be the main player.

Regardless of other players egos and skills, his talent alone will ensure that.

He won't sign for a club if there is an inclination that he might have his arse on a bench once-in-a-while.

Let us all except that this is a world class player that has proven his worth in three seperate leagues and at international level.

He could join any club in any league in the world and still perform at the highest level, so let us not kid ourselves anything different will happen.

A massive loss to our club and good luck to the lad.

DaveyBootle

Davey,
He would be a very big loss playing-wise. I think a lot of posters are trying to talk themselves into thinking otherwise. He hit the ground running from day one, worked very hard, scored and created. It's going to need two top players to replace him, in my opinion.
The Juicer

I thought the same about Sanchez but iT'S never quite worked out at Barca, same with Fabregas, Benzama, Higuain all world class and will be offloaded this summer.
So yes it can happen to Suarez.

Torres has not been a failure at Chelsea

During his time at chelsea and due to his contribution as much as anyone elses Chelsea have won
The FA Cup
Champions league
Europa Cup

How's that failure?

03 Jun 2013 14:55:17
Torres is a massive failure and Suarez is so overrated its unreal

Wako

01 Jun 2013 22:38:15
Eds is Luis Alberto the same player that scored a screamer for Cluj against United at OT in DEC 2012 when they got beat 1-0? Just wondered if he was on loan?

Tel 1949 {Ed023's Note - No mate, the Alberto you're thinking of is older. Pretty sure he is with Braga now?}

03 Jun 2013 08:23:22
Eds. are we intrested in Honda a great player and belive is free this summer also do u know the extent of sturriges injury great site ynwa {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

03 Jun 2013 07:30:30
Has LFC looked at Sporting's Rui Patricio as a possible replacement for Reina if he were to leave?
Ed, do you really think buying Benteke is wise as we already have a similar player in Sturridge?

YNWA
Liverbird {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not looked at Patricio as a replacement for Reina.}

03 Jun 2013 07:06:04
Ed002 says we enquried about benteke and a day later the mail are reporting it. The papers are far behind the standard of ed002

Same thing happened with Sandro and numerous others, which is why it's disgusting people still hurl abuse. Well other than Waro that is just a sad lonely lad who wants people to pay attention to him.

That's how it works. Ed02 mentioned a missive to journos. Papers come out the following day. No mystery. {Ed002's Note - Obviously I would not have used the word "journos" but that is what happened in this case with an email being sent to one or two media representatives in Germany, Belgium and England as well as a press agency. This is the sort of thing that makes it difficult for clubs to try and keep things quiet.}

Ed002, was this missive send from within Aston Villa or from the Benteke camp? If it was from the Benteke camp, it would point out that he is interested in the move while if it is from the AV camp, I guess it would mean AV knows he will leave and are trying to start a bidding war?

The real AG {Ed002's Note - You are trying to read something in to this that isn't there.}

Got it Ed002. I was just curious about the source of the message.

Hey, I guess if LFC have inquired, then then I guess they seem him as a viable and attainable replacement for Suarez!

The real AG {Ed002's Note - You should have just asked. It was from his representative.}

03 Jun 2013 02:28:46
Sturridge out until October! That's BS! If we don't sell Suarez and get a top replacement befor the season starts we'll be screwed! Coutinho can't do it alone. An I don't think seeing borini and aspas on the teamsheat opening day will be a big hit with the fans! Better get eriksen in asap

03 Jun 2013 00:35:13
Eds what's the situation with Joe Allen? Will he be given another season to prove himself or would we be open to offers? I would imagine we would like to keep him as backup for Lucas and wouldn't actively seek a buyer just yet, but I believe we'd consider a 7mil bid. What's your take? {Ed002's Note - I doubt Allen will be leaving.}

03 Jun 2013 00:48:46
cheers Macca take no notice of the bellends

03 Jun 2013 00:41:50
Thought it might be interesting to take a poll of LFC supporters on potential replacements IF Reina does indeed leave this summer. Hit 'Believable' to vote for Begovic and 'Unbelievable' for Mignolet. This is NOT to vote for who would most likely arrive, but rather which keeper you would rather have!

Thanks for posting Eds, and keep up the great work!

What do we hit if we would rather get McCarthy?

Buttons aren't there anymore, but I'd much prefer Mignolet.

RedKopite

02 Jun 2013 23:52:36
See Mourinho doesn't think much if the Spanish press. wonder how LS will get on with them should he go

03 Jun 2013 00:14:34
Luis should stay away from controversy else he'll be crucified. The Spanish press are worse.

03 Jun 2013 08:04:43
What is up with folks being so naive?
If you think Suarez is leaving because of the media you need your head checked! Matter of fact Suarez thrives on it and it makes him a better player don't believe me? Check out his celebrations! Enough said! The media calls him a diver he plays a fantastic game and takes a dive infront of moyes! The media say he wants to move, he scores a hatrick and celebrates with showing middlefingers and bla bla refrences to those who talk about him!
Suarez is leaving because that's what he does, he doesn't stick around and in his mind he is the best thing since sliced bread and he is bigger than the club, he forced his way out of each club and that shows he thinks he is bigger than the clubs he played for! Good luck to him in madrid, the egos in that team will make it a bad ending for him over there and don't be shocked in 2-3years if you see him sign for City or Chelsea or even United! that's just who he is, would love to see him and Ronaldo fight over a free-kick or suarez missing 10 chances a game. The press and fans are going to eat him alive. You wait and see!