23 Jun 2015 13:08:04
Hey Ed001.
I used the search engine on Firmino and then CTRL-F ED001 to see if you had already answered my question but I couldn't find anything.
What do you make of Firmino? I have always enjoyed reading your in depth opinions on players.
I'd also like to hear EMS' take on him as a player if he's around?
Cheers,
{Ed001's Note - my main take on him is he is inconsistent, sometimes he looks world class, other times average. On his day he is excellent, but he is very similar to Coutinho, though a bit more direct and pacey. They do seem to work well together for Brazil, I have noticed them link up a fair bit in this Copa America, there seems a real connection between them. Not sure myself that he really suits being a false 9, as he is being used, he really needs someone up ahead of him to work off. He does offer good movement, which is always a problem for defenders, but I don't see him scoring shedloads of goals for us or anyone. He is more of a creator who weighs in with a few. I want to watch more of him to be honest, as I have only watched bits and pieces, other than 5 full matches.}
23 Jun 2015 14:00:05
you're watching him ed001. is that a sign. ?
that we won't get him of course!
{Ed001's Note - good point.}
23 Jun 2015 14:43:25
Just for you, seeing as you asked, I'll reply. But I'm trying to avoid getting involved in discussion.
Firmino is a strong player, good at shrugging off challenges, gifted with quick feet and excellent close control. In terms of technical ability his first touch is amazing and his vision is also brilliant. He brings others into the game very well and creates a lot of chances.
My only criticism is his finishing. Whilst he is often deadly with either foot, I've seen him miss some absolute sitters.
I can't really think of a good conparison but I'd say Arda Turan is a similar player. Firmino is definitely not a false 9 though. No doubt he could play as a second striker but he doesn't attack the box enough to be the only central threat and he pulls wide to find space.
I would hazard a guess that he would weigh in with roughly 10 goals and as many assists though. He would be a fantastic aquisition. He makes a distinctly average Hoffenheim team worth watching. I'd be interested to see how hard he works for the team as well as I haven't really paid attention to that side of his game as I didn't really expect us to be interested.
I think he'd make up an excellent attacking trio with Coutinho and Milner to sit behind one of Ings or Sturridge though. Lots of creativity, direct play and a fair few goals in that attack. Especially with Ibe, Lallana and Origi as competition.
23 Jun 2015 15:06:59
I agree Ems he's a player we should have bought lst yea,, I'll b well happy if he arrives but I'm not getting my hopes up just yet
23 Jun 2015 15:14:42
Roberto Firmino will be the very definition of a "luxury signing". Excellent player he maybe, he is not what LFC need and they are bordering on incompetence with transfers like these is it happens. What happens to LFC's second most expensive signing Lallana if Frimino comes in? LFC should have bought the Brazilian last season in place of Lallana but I am not at all surprised with level of stupidity that is being shown by LFC's recruitment team.
23 Jun 2015 15:18:00
@EMS, how do you know so much about every player we are linked with every year? I thought you have a job or were finishing college or something, I think you were working from memory. Anyway I'm curious as it feels like you have provided very detailed analysis of players from numerous leagues over the years.
23 Jun 2015 15:36:36
Thanks Ed001 and EMS, much appreciated chaps!
23 Jun 2015 15:42:12
I use a steaming site to follow miltiple leagues. French, English and German are the only ones I follow extensively (I consider myself to also be a fan of Lyon and Leverkusen for example).
I watch the odd Sporting Lisbon game, the odd Sevilla game and the odd AC Milan game as well, though I wouldn't consider myself as knowledgeable of players in any of these leagues as I find them boring and non competetive.
Love watching European football as well. Let's just say there is a reason I failed A-levels and why I'm now failing my HNC haha. I bet I watch on average 5 games a week. It's embarrassing actually. My girlfriend left me because of it haha.
23 Jun 2015 16:30:04
No wonder your bird dumped you Adam!! I get grief for one match a week!!
23 Jun 2015 16:32:33
The real ag
You saved me a post. Not what we need yet again
23 Jun 2015 20:23:19
I think he would be a great addition to our collection of attacking midfielders.