08 Feb 2016 14:25:24
good day
i understand that i'm not from liverpool so i don't understand the challengers being faced financially, however i am far from rich myself. i personally think that the tickets are still reasonable.
my real problem is that i haven't heard of any supporters club or fan jumping in and trying to help FSG when they had to pay a 1m pounds/ dollars to keep "the fans club" a float, FSG has made mistakes but personally i have no evidence to say that they do not care for this club. if i have to weigh things up FSG has done more good for LFC than then wrongs. so to turn on them instead of seek a compromise is an over reaction from fans. at the end of the day i agree with Ed02 that this is a business and no fan or supporters club will change that and the sooner we except that the better. i will not turn on FSG until there is enough evidence to do that.
sorry for the long post i might of got all of this wrong but if you disagree please say why.
08 Feb 2016 15:17:43
I disagree, I don't think £77 for 90 minutes football is reasonable. On a one-off basis like a cup final or a big semi final it might be reasonable because it's a rare event.
For me this is not about FSG.
This is about the club and the people running it. They are expecting close to £40m EXTRA from TV money this summer. That's EXTRA to what they got for this season.
Where is that money going?
If the club want to increase the chances of locals coming in or they want cheaper tickets for youngsters then maybe use 5% of that EXTRA money to do that. Don't try and fleece the fans for it.
If that means we spend £2m less on transfers/ wages then so be it.
{Ed002's Note - The money is going to pay player wages, extend the ground, pay the police, pay staff wages, pay agents, pay super agents, pay transfer fees, pay bonuses to players, pay signing on fees, service vast debts, etc. etc.. Under threat to disruption to the Manchester City and Chelsea games from the septic end of the "supporters" the owners may well look to block the plans to reduce, freeze and increase certain ticket prices. I would expect further relationship changes and some gagging in respect of communication with the fans.}
08 Feb 2016 15:31:43
Thanks ed, out of that list you've given I'm sure the club can find at least £2m of savings to prevent the ticket price going up.
{Ed002's Note - That is not how it works. If you want to go down that route then the first saving would have to be the removal of the reductions that were planned for some tickets.}
08 Feb 2016 15:36:50
Well if that is the expected stance from the club ans owners. I expect a further deeper divide with more damage to pr et al. If there is no compromise this will be damaging to the image of the club for aure.
{Ed002's Note - You can't have it both ways. The septic supporter base want the owners out and the owners will be well aware of that.}
08 Feb 2016 15:46:34
Ed there are plenty of people who don't care who the owners are (me for one) but they still don't want an increase in ticket prices.
Why can't the club say "we're not going to spent as much on transfers and the savings go to the fans"?
It's like they're being held to ransom by Satellite TV to spend the money on transfers. To be honest, that would not surprise me.
{Ed002's Note - Nobody except the fans are making demands for transfers. All fans want their club to make signings - just that a large chunk of the Liverpool fans seem to want everyone replaced every year.}
08 Feb 2016 16:00:08
Ok I've said more than enough on this subject and taken up enough of ed002's time.
Cheers for that Ed002, you have been very helpful in my understanding.
I hope the club does reverse its position and I hope the club does start spending less on transfers. At the end of the day, fans do end up paying either through the turnstiles or through subscription viewing.
I also hope the current owners do stay, they will have learnt a lot and to throw that all away would be a waste.
{Ed002's Note - Have a great day Ron.}
08 Feb 2016 17:00:30
"Pay bonuses to players"? Eds 002.
{Ed002's Note - Yes.}
08 Feb 2016 16:04:59
if say a large proportion of the fans are unhappy with the quality of the players that have been acquired for the large amount of money we've parted with. The money that has spent under the likes of Benitez, dalglish and rodgers should have us competing in the top four consistently but as you know we're far from that! How much of that is down to the current owners and the transfer committee I don't know but what I find hard to understand is how other teams can go out and find gems without spending silly money. We on the other hand seem to pay over the odds for average players and players who'll never fit our style of play.