15 Nov 2015 15:46:25
Hello Ed002 if you are around,
Hope you're well. I know its been said repeatedly by you and the club that this January window will be quiet.
So even looking beyond that, I'm looking for players that Liverpool perhaps scout more extensively since Klopp's arrival and where interest is likely.
From the posts I gather Rui Patricio, El Ghazi, Subotic and perhaps a lingering interest in Sane. Is there any names I could perhaps add to that list?
Thanks a mill,
{Ed002's Note - Dortmund would be open to letting Subotic leave so I don't think that would compromise the promise made by Klipperty - and it would not be out of the question to see Liverpool look to him.
Patricio has been looked at before and has been looked at again (on more than one occasion this season) - it does't mean there is particular interest but they are keeping him in mind.
El Ghazi has been watched by Liverpool and a whole bunch of other clubs. Sane is similar to El Ghazi - a lot of clubs have been looking at him, including Liverpool.
Real Betis were aware of interest in Dani Ceballis from Juventus, Roma and, in particular, Real Madrid. Additionally Arsenal, Spurs, Swansea and Liverpool and others, have had the player watched throughout this year, but no EPL side made any approach to Real Betis about him. For now Ceballos has signed an extension, so he won't be moving imminently, but it would not be a surprise to see Real Madrid retrun for him in the summer.
Liverpool are one of the clubs who have enquired after Birmingham's Demarai Gray - albeit before Klipperty arrived.
Liverpool had scouts at a Porto match (against Maccabi Tel Aviv), I don't know who they were looking at as several Porto players are attracting attention (Martins Indi, Brahimi and Neves).
PSGs Lamine Ba has been of interest to Liverpool but he would be an unlikely addition to the first team squad.
I suspect a lot of what will happen going forward will be dependent on sales as well.}
15 Nov 2015 17:05:22
Thanks a lot. greatly appreciated.
15 Nov 2015 19:10:17
Just as an additional complement to Ed002's response, I believe it wasn't that Klopp promised not to pursue *any* Dortmund players, but simply that he would not do so "behind the back" of the leadership team over there.
So long as as he approaches BvB respectfully and is up front, don't think any pursuit is an issue.
Thus, Subotic would be a potential target. I would say Gundogan too, as he only signed a 1 year extension in July, which takes him through to 2017. They are unlikely to re-sign Gundogan, so he is another player BvB are going to try to get some value for while he's still under contract. I predict Gundogan is most likely dealt in the summer, but possibly in January, if the offers are right for BvB.
{Ed002's Note - You are simply making stuff up. Firstly it is not Klopp who would make any approach to Dortmund for a player. It is not his job and it is specifically something he has never been involved in previously. Secondly, if Liverpool did make any direct approach to a player without the permission of their club that is tapping up. Perhaps Klopp is a liar and perhaps Liverpool will be tapping up players - and after the idiotic admissions of Gerrard there are people waiting for that to happen.
As I said, Dortmund are willing to sell Subotic so it is of no consequence.
You make the people running Liverpool look like cretins with this nonsense.}
15 Nov 2015 22:58:26
Seriously, what are you on about Ed002?
First, I'm not making anything up. I'm going by an explicit statement made by the Watzke to several media outlets about Klopp pursuing BvB players.
Direct quotes:
"Jurgen would never do anything which would harm the interests of BVB – I am 100 per cent sure of this
He would never get in touch with players behind our back"
Go google it. It's not hard to find.
That doesn't sound like some kind of blanket moratorium on Liverpool pursuing BvB players.
I was just making the point that if Gundogan, Subotic, or whoever else is actually available, there's no reason to think Liverpool would not be a part of the conversation.
Second, you're the only one making things up. I didn't say Klopp would personally approach any players. That's ridiculous. I know that it was Zorc who was involved with most player dealing BvB when Klopp was there.
You can read what you want into my posts. But that's not my problem. It's just your imagination.
{Ed002's Note - In which case you have made a whole lot up - perhaps reading what Klopp said in German and you would not look such a jerk. You seem to have no grasp about how transfers work at all. We have to suffer one idiot after another who somehow can't help but make stuff up.}
16 Nov 2015 06:09:22
It would be tapping up ed, but from what I read, many clubs get away with tapping up and escape consequences, implicating that tapping up is not a very well-policed activity. Liverpool for example blatantly tapped up the likes of Kroos and Willian, yet escaped any punishment.
{Ed002's Note - No problem then. Klopp is a liar and Liverpool regularly tap up players.}
16 Nov 2015 18:52:32
Hey fear, Cmon, u need to read between the lines. Dortmund is just saying if u wan our players just pay us a good price like Bayern did. period. wats wrong with sounding out a player if he like playing for klopp and liverpool and then paying him and his club a good sum. Everybody is happy.
17 Nov 2015 06:16:53
I'm not trying to say that at all Ed.
{Ed002's Note - Many Liverpool fans are of the opinion that "tapping up" is acceptable because "other clubs do it" and because, super hero, Steven Gerrard has admitted that he did it on behalf of Liverpool. Furthermore, many fans believe Klopp to be a liar when he says he will not being conducting any transfer business in January; that he will not be spending money that the club does not have; and that he will not be returning to Dortmund for players.
As I have said previously, I have no doubt that the money will be made available for the right player at the right price.}