06 Aug 2015 12:58:35
ive seen a few posts down the page declaring that gerrards slip against chelsea "literally" lost us the league.
it is so simplistic to say that. when are people going to realise that the prem is a marathon and not a sprint?
the slip was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back but to site is as the single reason is ignorrant.
we could have easily picked up those lost points at another point in the season. how about draw to west brom where kolo played that awful sideways pass? how about getting battered by hull on new years day?
i'm sure there are other points we threw away as well.
the chelsea result was one of many results that cost us the league.
i know some people will still disagree with this but at least give me a plausible reason rather than hitting the button.
06 Aug 2015 13:30:29
You have just answered why gerrards slip did cost us the title.
The season is a marathon. You will lose matches, get injuries, have players making mistakes, get your tactics wrong but its all to get you to the end of the season and still be in the title run in.
Remember when man u beat us to the league but got smashed by us? The double we did on them aswel.
We had gone through ups and downs throughout the campaign, won what 11 games on the trot, beat the champions at home to make it our title to lose.
Gerrard said it best 'we don't let this slip now' or something along those lines.
The whole season was done we had the league and unfortunately gerrards slip let Chelsea into a game they wernt showing any signs of winning.
It wasn't his fault in the sense that I hate him now lol but it was the point which lost us that game and then impacted the palace game as we were trying to get the goal difference back.
Yes we could of lost the last two games anyway but the slip was the point we lost the league
Think about what you post back to me and imagine Allen had slipped. You know for a fact this would be a whole different argument.
Also if the slip came in October then your argument would be spot on
It's the red blinkered glasses that are having people not blame that slip.
I love gerrard for the record and can't believe this is the first season were he won't be there since I've been watching them.
I wish him all the luck and just think that slip was written in the stars for him it was too sweet to go and get the league.
Good luck stevie and thanks for everything.
06 Aug 2015 13:57:35
The point of my initial post wasn't to highlight gerrards slip, it was just a light hearted post which was supposed to highlight we had similar problems that season i.e. the fixture list wasn't favorable our best striker was out, and nobody gave us a shot at top four. The point was football is unpredictable show some support to the team who knows where the season takes us! but by all means if you guys wanna focus on that one little joke be my guest.
FYI us losing out on the title was not Stevie's fault! i have followed football enough to know the final points tally isn't based off one game.
Get behind the team people!! "support-ers" are supposed to "support"
06 Aug 2015 14:03:28
We also drew with Palace the next game when it wasn't clear yet if City will not lose more points (so you cannot assume that if we had drew the game with Chelsea we would have won the Palace game). But I agree every point we lost that season was worth exactly like the point(s) we lost against Chelsea.
06 Aug 2015 14:05:51
Forever96, sorry but your argument is just wrong, you can't disregard every other part of the season because Gerrards slip was the last thing that happened.
Here's the fact, no one thing caused us to lose the league last year.
It's naive to think that, it is a combination of everything that caused us to lose the league.
Did we finish a couple of points behind city?
This means any draw that we had could have cost us the league, any combination of parables caused us to lose it.
Gerrard wasn't at fault and although other fans want us to think that just accept it and move on because they just do it to wind us up about our legend.
06 Aug 2015 14:24:50
Fanobip, but if we had drawn with Chelsea, we wouldn't have gone looking for more goals at palace when we were 3 goals up because goal difference wouldn't have come into it
06 Aug 2015 14:29:24
What tosh - the linesman who ruled Sterling's good goal offisde against City was the culprit. Bring on TV replays and a fifth official! Oh, and as Morinhon said, the FAs fault for not docking city points for failing FFP, Oh and.
06 Aug 2015 14:32:07
Obviously it's not Gerrards fault he slipped, it was a freak accident. But until that game, the title was in our own hands.
06 Aug 2015 15:19:03
It obviously wasn't the sole reason but it was a turning point
06 Aug 2015 15:35:52
It wasn't gerrards fault he slipped for god sake. I'm not saying anything like that, your all arguing for arguments sake. I feel like a bloody ed.
We were 3-0 up against palace and if wr had of drawn or won the Chelsea game we wouldn't of chased for more goals.
Gerrard slip cost us the league its a simple as that. Red blinkered glasses.
Just think what you would be saying if Allen had of slipped.
06 Aug 2015 15:39:49
Oh a wagas don't start all that moaning about supporters should support.
My season ticket, missing shifts in work to watch games, travelling away shows I support. I love gerrard to the core, but that slip happened and I'm not going to lie because he won us the champions league
If your wife leaves the front door open at night and you get burgled, whose fault is it? The fact they haven't created self locking doors yet? Are you going to report it to panorama? LOl
As I have said a thousand times what would you all be saying if Allen had of slipped.
06 Aug 2015 19:00:30
For me what cost us the title was Hendo getting sent off in the previous game against City. Not blaming the lad for being sent off, it happens in football. Especially in big games. However he was a big loss to us in the Chelsea game, not just against Chelsea, against Palace too. If hendo was playing against Chelsea perhaps he would have had the cover we needed when Gerrard slipped. You could also blame Sakho for passing the ball when Stevie wasnt ready for it. I think people though sometimes forget that footballers are people at the end of the day. We all make mistakes. Is sad for Steven because he will be the greatest captain to never win the title. Was such a massive blow to him as a player and no doubt he felt personally responsible. But we win as a team and lose as a team. We still could have won the title after the Chelsea game, just was out of our hands. Gerrards reputation can't ever be tarnished for me. He is a legend amd cemented his place among the very beat many years ago.
06 Aug 2015 20:41:34
so when toure assisted aniche vs west brom? That didn't cost us the league?
06 Aug 2015 21:42:52
Any game we didn't get three points cost us equally to the Chelsea game. The order they occurred makes no difference.
{Ed030's Note - What the OP is trying to say is before the slip, The league was in Liverpool's hands so the games before the slip where irrelevant because after those games we was top of the league. I can see where he is coming from to be honest. }
06 Aug 2015 21:45:26
The league doesn't lie
06 Aug 2015 21:46:26
I don't know about others but gerrards memory isn't tarnished.
As soon as it happened I turned to my mate and said that had to happen to him because anyone else would of been slaughtered lol
Everyone starts calling people crap fans an all that for stating a fact that ' the slip cost us the title'
The whole league has games throughout and it is all for those last couple of games to be in with a shout of winning it and we had done it all. The good the bad and the ugly
The league was ours ti lose at the time when gerrard slipped and hence (lost us the league as it was ours if we kept winning well Wwd)
Take the red blinkered glasses off people
What would of happened if Allen had of slipped / I will keep asking that until something post and is truthful that he would of been absolutely slaughtered.
It was so lucky it happened to stevie
Love you gerrard lad thanks for everything!!
{Ed030's Note - The slip is just talked of because it was Gerrard, What about the poor defending and misses vs Palace and the Henderson red card. }
06 Aug 2015 22:16:26
Or here's a thought.
Don't play a style of football at home where you push right up and split the two central defenders leaving a man in the middle on his own. Particularly in a game you don't have to win but you can't afford to lose.
Gerard's slip was a problem because he was effectively the last man.
07 Aug 2015 07:43:01
Eds you tried to explain to another poster above.
I know we had bad defending, poor results, bad performances etc but at that point vs Chelsea the league was ours to lose with 3 games to do we just needed to
WWD
we couldn't exactly try to win against hull in jan incase gerrard slipped later on in the league.
The league was ours for the taking.
And wassa so somehow your now trying to blame Brendan lol
For the record it was not gerrards fault he slipped, it was unlucky he was on his own in the middle, it was unlucky aswel the level of game it was.
But he still slipped.
Stop thinking you have to defend gerrard as if none of you have slated his performances last season lol
07 Aug 2015 08:52:39
.we lost the Chelsea game 2-0 right?
Any one citing the chasing of goal difference vs palace cost us,need to then also change their tune of that game vs Chelsea,when they went 1-0 ahead they sat back and made us come at them,those saying chelsea weren't inthe game,need to take their heads out their ass. Chelsea were the dominant team till that point. When they went 1-0 up,they sat back,and let us come at them and swatted us away everytime.
We lost the league because we simply were not the ebst team across 38 games.
as has been mentioned we blew points vs WBA,Villa,Arsenal,Hull, Everton.
Like I say you can blame Gerrards slip,but chelsea still had 60 odd minutes to beat us,and they grabbed another goal. why not blame Aspas for the corner,or BR for the change of tactics,we were pot shotting from 30 yards chasing the game instead of being composed. that was every players fault.
This happened over a year ago fellas. It's time to move on