06 Aug 2015 12:46:47
Hi Eds . If and when we finally off load Borini , Balotili , Enrique etc do you expect us to do any more dealings in the transfer market or have we got our lot for the season ahead . Personally I think we need another quality CDM , if Lucas gets injured I know we have people that can play in that roll all be it not their natural position but will be less effective as a CDM , I also think are CB positions are dodgy and still our weakest area in the team what do you think.
Cheers Notsozippy
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have no shortage of midfield players and could use Can in that position. Liverpool have added two centre backs already this summer, although one will cover for LB as well - there won't be any more CBs arriving.}
06 Aug 2015 13:29:27
I say this not to bash can but out of concern because I think he has a future but I don't know where on the field. Do you guys think he can play as a DM? You can see he likes to take players and he's good at it. Can can play DM or even should we "waste" a bright offensive spark.
06 Aug 2015 13:55:31
That is a Dear Brendan question. He bought him and must have had an idea where to play him in midfield because clearly he is neither a CB or a FB by trade. If BR bought him YET doesn`t know where to harness his immense ability and potential then, his coaching acumen should be called into question if it already has not.
06 Aug 2015 14:14:02
He was bought to replace Lucas but it looks like he is an attacking midfeidler to me. I am pretty sure BR never saw Can before his move to Liverpool like many others.
06 Aug 2015 14:18:58
But what if when he bought him, he knew Exactly where he was going to play him once the rest of the jigsaw falls into place. I get the impression that you are one of those on here who WANTS BR to fail irrespective of the consequences to the club ♣
06 Aug 2015 14:52:13
Well to be fair BR has been working in his jigsaw for over 3 years, spent close to 300 million and bought about 25 players. I think it's a fair question when we have bought an attack minded midfielder in Can who has been played at CB, LB and will most likely end up as a DM. If his jigsaw doesn't fall into place this season it never will.
06 Aug 2015 14:53:33
Brendan doesn't need us to help him fail, he has all the attributes to do that all by himself
06 Aug 2015 15:40:05
Lucas was brought as an attacking midfielder but developed his game as a defensive midfielder so i'm pretty sure Emre Can could do the same.
06 Aug 2015 15:48:20
Yes bigd but if we wanted a DM we should have just gone and bought one last year instead. That's the point it just seems certain buys/ positions just haven't been thought through.
06 Aug 2015 15:53:15
Lucas was actually bought as a DM midfielder but had played much of his football in a more attacking role.
Rafa moulded him.
06 Aug 2015 16:48:13
Davey
You mean buy a Cat and train it to become a tiger?
06 Aug 2015 18:25:38
Maybe, I just think that Rafa saw something in him which no one else did at the time.
He's still a true professional and a cracking player.
06 Aug 2015 20:31:43
I see Can as a multi talented player who can play numerous roles in the team. I would say mainly a box to box type midfielder but should Lucas be out of the team he is more than capable of filling in there and doing a really good job. We could always adjust the teams shape slightly to accommodate his style more.
06 Aug 2015 21:11:24
Wasn't Lucas pretty much a failed attacking mid? Still think he could play until at least January so Can can learn from him. Emre's runs and that little chipped ball in for a goal last year point to an attacking position in my view.
06 Aug 2015 22:28:58
Lucas was an attacking midfielder when Rafa bought him, but he was industrious enough to replace Mascherano and still keep the ball ticking on. I like seeing Lucas in the team, as you know you have someone who will give their all and will make a fair few tackles. Equally as talented as Allen with the ball at his feet but much better tactically, though I haven't written off the latter.
{Ed030's Note - I think Lucas offers a lot more then Allen. Lucas also maintains the position better and resisting the temptation to attack with the team something while Allen does not do leaving himself out of position a lot. }
06 Aug 2015 22:54:09
Lucas was (I believe) player of the season in the brazilian league prior to us buying him and was played as a box to box midfielder.
NB: just because one player can adapt to another position doesn't mean another one can.
Lucas with the right players (i.e. not all defense minded) plays the role very well; in the 2013-14 season when Gerrard was injured no one on here at the time wanted Gerrard to come back due to how the midfield 3 (not tip of the diamond) was playing.
Still some of us will never be happy!
06 Aug 2015 23:54:49
He was the top scorer in an u-21 comp.
Which Brazil were in. Playing an attacking role for them. One of the reasons rafa bought him.
07 Aug 2015 01:22:12
Comparing Lucas to Allen shows how far he has fallen in the eyes of some fans. Allen is and never will be in his class.