25 Sep 2015 09:20:51
ed002-
what is your take on this eva carneiro and chelsea situation?
{Ed002's Note - I really have no opinion. It has to some extent been blown out of all proportion - which I doubt would have happened if she had been a 60 year old swarthy Hungarian with excessive back hair.}
25 Sep 2015 09:47:53
I think she will be getting a serious constructive dismissal payout.
{Ed001's Note - he is right no one would care if she was minging, but she does have a case as she has an oath and would be struck off if she had not gone on to the pitch, plus the demotion they tried to give her she could not accept for a similar reason. She had to act how she did, but it is true no one cares whether she is right or wrong, just that she is cute.}
25 Sep 2015 10:17:36
She has a case cute or not and will likely win a tribunal case. They may have already settled with her out of court who knows.
{Ed002's Note - Not at this time.}
25 Sep 2015 10:19:02
Can't say how much I disagree with Ed 002. A professional doing her job and excercising proper care for her patient has been castigated in public by her manager and demoted. Her position is rendered untenable and she must have an excellent case for constructive dismissal. Mourinho implies that winning is more important than Eden Hazard's health - Chelsea appear not to take their duty of care towards their employees seriously. Furthermore there is the allegation of sexist language being used by him towards her. If so this is no less of an issue than Suarez & Evra. How is this disproportionate? As a manager, for this alone, Mourinho would be at least suspended in many of the industries I work in.
BTW - it's irrelevant if, as Mourinho has obliquely suggested, there are other issues. Is so, these should have been dealt with appropriately by the club.
Finally I'm not sure whether you are saying, Ed, that the media's sustained interest is partly because she's attractive. If that's so, then to some extent I agree - our media is hugely superficial, but if you're suggesting that it would somehow matter less were she not so attractive, then I'm calling you out on it.
{Ed002's Note - This is one of the flakiest comments I have ever read here.}
25 Sep 2015 10:27:28
60 year old swarthy Hungarian with excessive back hair.
Wow, Now that's interesting.
25 Sep 2015 10:38:35
Isn't this one for the Chelsea page?
{Ed002's Note - They are obsessed with Chelsea and it stops them whining about the manager. Rudi Garcia will be next up as available - then in November we will see Andre Villa Boas as being available. All great stuff.}
25 Sep 2015 11:15:42
Eva Carneiro ?
It was a 'Ratner Moment' for Mourinho and Chelsea.
25 Sep 2015 11:21:31
Hi edd 2 with Rudi Garcia and Andre Villa Boas becoming available may I ask who you think would be the better choice for lfc
25 Sep 2015 11:22:20
Well I agree with Ed002 that it has been blown out of all proportion by the Premier League SkyTV soap opera. 20 years ago we wouldn't know who the medics were let alone communicated on social media and had newspaper headlines about it. In the past the medics would have shrugged it off and got on with the job, now it's a media scandal.
She's been poorly treated but she came into the industry with her eyes open, she must expect people under pressure to over react occasionally.
25 Sep 2015 11:22:25
Not for the lfc page but as much as on the face of it would be interesting, the professional opinion of medical staff regarding a players well being bs a managers desire to win. Think ed is right.
If it was a overweight 50+ medic wouldn't make headlines, not saying it reflects well on footy fans but Eva has always got a lot of media attention simply for being attractive. for example name another medical staff of any football team.
Sadly boils down to attractive doctor against harsh boss. and I go to different websites for that
25 Sep 2015 11:34:40
Maybe if the Chelsea players didn't dive for cover with a twisted sock to waste time, the doctor wouldn't be required.
Live by the sword. .
25 Sep 2015 11:52:42
Being dropped from normal duties is a bit more than just an overreaction in the heat of the moment
25 Sep 2015 12:23:37
Bear in mind the dropping from normal duties occurred after she tweeted a response to those giving support.
There is always more to it than is reported. Observing the way Chelsea is run, I think they will have acted carefully.
{Ed001's Note - actually they did ask her to breach medical council regs by taking a demotion, which is why she is able to take legal action. This was a huge mess up on Chelsea's part, whatever way they try and spin it. The difference is that Chelsea, being well run, will learn the lessons from the mistakes and make sure it doesn't happen again.}
25 Sep 2015 12:45:34
Interesting insight, thanks Ed
25 Sep 2015 13:02:41
Who cares, she wouldn't have tweeted if Mourinho apologised to her soon after the incident.
25 Sep 2015 12:48:04
At the time the event occurred, I thought it was just another one of Mourinho's publicity stunts to take the attention away from Chelsea's performance on the pitch. But it has dragged on after she was demoted and with considerable support to Carneiro (thanks largely to the media), she acted, is considering the legal route and left her job.
It has been blown out of proportion, but it was started by Mourinho in the first place and Chelsea seemingly allowed whatever course of action Mourinho wanted to follow. This is where I think the club could have maybe acted and try and reach a compromise.
25 Sep 2015 14:20:28
All a nothing burger, IMO.