25 Sep 2015 20:42:13
What do you lot think about Gerrards comments about BR over confidence being a reason for us losing to chelsea and ultimately the title?
Personally, i think they are both arrogant although Gerrard was a great player, but he did slip which did to some degree at least cost us the game
25 Sep 2015 21:20:39
Are you for real talking about Gerrard like that ? Absolute legend he was. one genuine mistake and you come out with that. Disgraceful.
25 Sep 2015 21:24:45
Nothing wrong with arrogance if you can back it up.
Gerrard can, in spades.
25 Sep 2015 21:39:35
When I think of Stevie G that season I remember all the penalty kicks he took. Fact is we did go for the win against Chelsea when a draw was enough. Would Rafa have played football as exciting? No. Would Rafa have taken that one Chelsea game and get what was required? He usually did. Was Rodgers over confident? Probably.
25 Sep 2015 21:51:44
I think Stevie should have kept his mouth shut.
No need for that book so soon. No need at all.
25 Sep 2015 21:56:42
That's one thing I can't call Rodgers for. We were wiping the floor with everyone at home at that time so why change it? Had Gerrard not slipped then we would've got at least a draw because until then Chelsea had no interest in winning the game. I don't blame Gerrard, it happens but I can't blame Rodgers for doing what had got us there in the first place. Just one of those things unfortunately.
25 Sep 2015 22:08:28
Did Rafa ever win the league? No. I am not backing Rodgers here, just saying that Rafa may not be the perfect example of getting it done. Jose? Yes, he has done that consistently. It is certainly interesting timing for Stevie to release all of this news. Then again, it may be part of his agreement with an LA side who are paying a lot of coin.
25 Sep 2015 22:22:58
Rafa did win the league but unfortunately the year he finished second was also the year so many "BAD DECISION" went in favour of "MAN United" which in turn cost us the league and they went on to win in controversy as usual and match fixing. Offside goals that counted, penalties that weren't etc. extra time of 7 mins just about all the bull to get them over the line.
25 Sep 2015 22:56:04
Rafa didn't win the league
Rodgers didn't win the league
A better manager on both occasions could have lead to 2 more titles
The managers were at fault in both instances
25 Sep 2015 23:12:58
Every team gets offside goals, penalties that shouldn't of been etc, it's part and parcel and levels itself out. You sound like a kid throwing his dummy out the pram.
Without offside goals and penalties denied for the opposition you would be on 1 or 2 points this season. Remember bentekes offside? Or Bournemouth perfectly legal goal disallowed? get a grip
25 Sep 2015 23:22:19
Rafa did win in Spain, i stand corrected although i was referring to the EPL and should have stated that. Both managers did well to get that close but also didn't win it because of their limitations.
25 Sep 2015 23:27:42
Howard Webb got a winners medal as well that season.
25 Sep 2015 23:42:09
I do think it's a bit rich stevie saying brenden cost us the league that year. yes he did slip which cost us a goal but what did he want us to do? does he think we were good enough to sit back and say, right chelsea break us down because they would have done quite easily. we weren't good enough to play that way so we had to go for it.
i think the results of the last season and the start of this are making it so much easier for people to say, yeah, it was all brendan's fault we didn't win the league.
I do think we should be getting rid of him now though, the team look shot of confidence. the constant changes of formation seem like he's just trying to stumble on a way of playing.
26 Sep 2015 00:05:01
Rodgers got a lot closer to winning the league than Rafa. Let's face it in 2009 although we were close we never actually looked like winning it. In 2014 we had a more than real chance but it just wasn't to be.
I give Rodgers credit as he added Coutinho and Sturridge, got Hendo to a different level and made Suarez a world class player (let's not forget Kenny had Suarez for a year and a half and couldn't get anywhere near the title). What's happened since then is baffling.
Rodgers seems to have lost confidence in everything he did so well to build. Poor signings, poor tactics, nonsense interviews have led us here to a point where he just has to go. It's a shame because 2013-2014 was one of the most exciting Liverpool teams I've seen in 25 years.
26 Sep 2015 00:17:58
Pipsscreamer totally spot on, if BR had changed attacking style against Chelsea and we got beat, he would have been slaughtered. easy for all smart arses to be wise after the event. also think Gerrard had no need to to say what he has.
26 Sep 2015 00:38:44
Rodgers didn't want Studge or Phil
26 Sep 2015 00:49:15
PLease read the post red ted! How was i being disgraceful but suggesting Gerrard lip up was partly responsible for us losing to Chelsea? Am i wrong?
Or maybe you don't like the suggestion he may be a little arrogant? Well i think he is and that's not a problem is it? Just for me i think he said too much when he should have at times just played. i didn't say or do i think he wasnt a legend for Liverpool FC.
26 Sep 2015 00:49:17
Rodgers made Suarez a world class player? Give me strength!
Rodgers is a clown and stooped to new levels, the other week, when he mentioned nearly winning the league.
I bet that's not on Suarez's C.V.
26 Sep 2015 04:09:57
I don't blame Rodgers or Gerrard for losing the title. I think BR was right to go for the win against Chelsea, let's not forget, Chelsea were by no means the team they were last season sweeping everyone by with ease, Liverpool had not only bet teams especially at home but demolished teams I think, with beating City the previous home game the confidence would have been brimming. You could also blame Sakho for passing to Gerrard when he wasn't looking. It happens in football, was a simple mistake, but we had other decisions go out ways also that season, so you take the good with the bad. Has he not slipped we certainly would have gotten the draw if not a win. I think that summer though killed our confidence and with the english players at the world cup being soo disappointing, led to Gerrard being not at his best, because I felt after the title charge season he would become a Paul Scholes type figure for us, reinventing his game and leading from deeper in midfield.
It seems like an age ago since that season, everything that we had built has come crashing down. But ill never forget that season for its highs and lows, I think would have gone down as the best PL season ever, may even be that way now, but certainly more so had we won't the title in such a way for the first time in soo long. I pray we can find a way to get back to that level, sadly I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel, yet.
26 Sep 2015 04:34:49
BR had us playing a system that was recommended to him. He never believed in that system even tho he was flashing his gnashers and taking all the credit. He could have made the system his own because it was working but his ego and arrogance wouldn't let him. As soon as he could, he reverted back to the old BR whose system got him the sack at Reading and soon at LFC. He didn't win the PL because of his arrogance and nothing more, like Rafa before him.
26 Sep 2015 05:23:50
Essex mate, u clearly hate Rodgers and I don't know why. But if u can blame Rodgers for the balotelli signing whom he didn't want u got to credit him for studge and phil.
On a personal level though I think it's time for him to go. He did try his best. But as ed said the job was too soon for him. Time for someone with much needed experience.
{Ed001's Note - I disagree personally that it was too soon for him. He is just not a good manager. It won't matter if he had got the job in 10 or 20 years' time or now, he will always fail as he has no tactical acumen or reading of the game.}
26 Sep 2015 06:56:04
To an extent I agree with you ed. At present he is tactically not good enough. But don't you think he could improve with experience probably in a team that does not put the kind of pressure on a manager that we do.
{Ed001's Note - why does anyone suggest he can learn when he has shown in his entire career not one single sign of having the sense to learn? The guy is a disaster. He just needs to return to coaching as he is never going to be a manager, he is inept.}