07 Feb 2016 18:21:27
QUOTE: Bayern Munich president Uli Hoeness on the club's £104 season ticket price - I believe in July 2014!
Explaining his decision to keep season tickets at Bayern lower than their counterparts across Europe, Hoeness said: "We could charge more than €130 (£104). Let's say we charged €380 (£300). We'd get €2.5m (£2m) more in income, but what's €2.5m to us? "
"In a transfer discussion you argue about the sum for five minutes. But the difference between €130 and €380 is huge for the fans. "
"We do not think fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody. "
"That's the biggest difference between us and England. ".
{Ed002's Note - Are you aware that Bayern Munich have a much higher income that Liverpool - much, much higher - including match day income. Trying to compare things which are not like for like doesn't help anything - and certainly comparing anything between Bayern Munich and Liverpool financially goes nowhere.}
07 Feb 2016 18:49:31
We do not think fans are like cows, who you milk. Football has got to be for everybody.
07 Feb 2016 18:49:36
I wonder how much it is to watch Leicester?
07 Feb 2016 18:50:58
Is that the same in any country?
{Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you are referring to IR. If it is related to you cow comment, then yes, cows are fundamentally the same in all countries. A tip to remember with cows - if you want cream, when you pick them up you need to shake them a lot before squeezing them - and then cream comes out not milk.}
07 Feb 2016 19:06:52
Eds2, I think the point Hoola was trying to make is that the increase in ticket prices is peanuts in extra income to a club of Liverpool's stature, but the difference between some fans being able to go or not. And Bayern Munich, s policy seems to consider their fans a lot more than FSG.
{Ed002's Note - No, you cannot compare the two as I said. Liverpool has a much smaller income from commercial and match day revenue that Bayern Munich and is carrying a great deal of debt that needs to be serviced. They are notbuilding a new stadium nor are they paying significant amounts to replace the manager to placate the fans.}
07 Feb 2016 19:45:36
Another one to placate the fans Ed? I guess its never ending? How about the owners or "the club" (as you can never be too sure) made a gross error of judgement on hiring a novice with an impressive dossier and eventually had to admit to their cock up (not the first, probably not the last) and had to get rid. Now surely Ed that is closer to the truth?
{Ed002's Note - No, I think the owners would certainly have let him stay this season. The fans forced the issue.
The owners are also well aware of the views of the media, the fans etc. and get regular (perhaps weekely) reports from a bunch of folks in Hartford who are employed to look at social media, fan sites, the press etc. to gauge and report on how the club, owners et al are perceived.}
07 Feb 2016 18:59:54
Part of the reason Germany charge better match day prices is because you can watch the 3 o'clock games at home. (unlike England where it's banned) so through fear of having empty stadiums then charge similar to what you pay to watch at home
But it's still a proper point that the different of 2/ 3/ 4 mil per year and giving fans proper ticket prices is just nothing when players are picking up xthiusands a week, the huge TV deal and the akiunt them waste on players very easily.
It's just greed.
07 Feb 2016 20:33:58
Worried that anyone thinks shaking milk is how you make cream lol.
{Ed002's Note - Shaking cows Chris - not milk.}
07 Feb 2016 20:40:45
Oh that'll make all the difference Ed my apologies haha.
{Ed002's Note - I knew you would understand.}
07 Feb 2016 20:48:09
Anyway how are you this evening Ed? You seem a little touchy lately, not surprised though with some of the rubbish you have to put up with on here
Any plans to visit the uk anytime soon that offer of a beer is
still on the table.
{Ed002's Note - I am based in the UK most of the time Chris - I will remember the offer.}
07 Feb 2016 21:26:31
I wasn't aware you were here now Ed, if you find yourself in my neck of the woods give me a nudge.
{Ed002's Note - Of course - will do Chris.}
07 Feb 2016 22:53:18
Eds I'm confused as to what I should do to a cow to get cheese. Is it a different breed or a more vigerous shaking. Perhaps I shouldn't ask.