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10 Oct 2017 13:26:17
Hello ed1, was wondering if you could give your England starting 11 for the world cup. Currently in a debate with people saying Wilshere should start due to hendo's "lack of creativity"

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, I wouldn't have a clue about England, I take little notice of international footie but Wilshere would not get in my team if I was picking a Sunday league team, let alone an international one.}

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10 Oct 2017 14:15:33
It's not too late for you English lads to play the British card and start supporting N. I. More interesting than watching England and I've got a mate who can get you genuine (nearly) N. I shirts for a tenner, you'll look great and you'll get to see some real football 😆.

10 Oct 2017 14:23:11
Lol ed01. Wilshere in front of Hendo? Whoever says that is crazy. Watching England has become so boring. The boys walking about with the ball at their feet. It's like they refuse to break into a sweat against these smaller teams. Lithuania, malta, iceland etc. One of the exceptions is Jordan Henderson. I don't know what people are talking about saying he isn't creative? He has been involved in every goal England has scored recently. Henderson came into some criticism a few weeks ago and since then he has been brilliant for both liverpool and england. For me there are two names that are automatically on the England team sheet and they are Henderson and Kane. ALi and Rashford are close behind although I have to say, I still haven't seen why there is so much hype around deli Ali. He doesn't look like he is trying for england and I don't watch spurs much. I have never been blown away by deli Ali though.

Question for the lad's and the eds if they have time. Who are the other options for the number 10 role for england? I'm talking alternatives to deli Ali. I would be much happier with Rooney than Ali. Ali was one of the players who completely fell to pieces against iceland. I don't get it? Deli Ali ain't that good. Kane would score even more next to coutinio.

{Ed001's Note - the problem is that England players are being managed by a safety first manager, so none of them have any creativity as they are being stifled. Southgate was a ridiculous appointment, he never even wanted the job and is a hopeless manager.}

10 Oct 2017 15:30:44
I agree with you ed01 mate, Southgate is too young, coz when we don't win the world cup and lose a couple of games he will get SO MUCH stick by the press and that Is his career over. Once you have failed with England you are in the doldrums for a couple of years. Southgate was doing fantastic with the under 21 team and now they have lost their manager too. I love watching England but it is so boring now. They literally walk about with the ball at their feet, They act like they are one of the top international teams, with Germany Spain and France, Italy but they ain't. We got well beaten by iceland, I'm worried for england without Gerrard and now rooney.

If you get a Centre back as a manager you are going to play some boring football. We have players like Rashford, Lallana and Ali who should be lighting up the game but the look really restricted at the moment. Rashford is some player, shame he is utd.

The hard question. . who would you choose to replace Southgate guys and eds?

P. s. I like Gareth Southgate as a man, seems a good bloke BTW. Was a great cb un his day, felt tor him badly when he missed pen (why was he taking one? )

{Ed001's Note - was he doing well or did he just happen to have very good players who did well and he got the credit? Only they have looked a lot better since he left....}

10 Oct 2017 16:10:05
Really ed01? I didn't know that. yeah they won the world cup didn't they!

If we don't perform in the world cup Southgate is going to be the next parsnip next to the turnip! He doesn't deserve that.

It worked for Italy though, the defencive game got them to the final of the euros. And juventus in the champions league. I don't think we have the outstanding cbs, Dmf and gk to play that way. Italy had buffon and bouniccio (sorry about the spelling) England have cahill and Hart, we should play to our strengths. Get that ball to Harry Kane and the lad will tuck it away, we have quick, tricky attacking players who can play down the wing or through the middle and whip that ball to kane., ;call up defoe too. Two deadly strikers, who WILL score if they get the ball, it's long ball (which I'm not a fan of) but we are up against some tough opposition, we need to stay compact.

Supporting England gives us an insight as to what it's like to support Stoke!

{Ed001's Note - please not Defoe, he is one of the most overrated players of all time, misses so many easy chances, then slots one away and everyone raves about him. He is not good enough at Prem level.}

10 Oct 2017 17:42:25
English people think creativity is playing the stupidest passes possible and taking credit when it once a season pays off. Hence so many rate Wiltshire. Just like they think that being strong or fast is the same as being talented, even if you have no tactical understand of how to use it. Hence they rate players like Zaha and Townsend despite their clear deficiencies as a player.

10 Oct 2017 17:44:14
I hope you mean not good enough anymore. The man has scored 159 premier league goals.

{Ed001's Note - and missed about 3000 great chances. He has been lucky to play in teams that set up purely to give him the ball in dangerous areas.}

10 Oct 2017 20:50:04
I dunno ed, he is a pretty tight finisher isn't he? Ok not defoe, it has to be sturridge then but I don't think he is suited to the long ball game. Maybe even Andy carol for the high balls. I don't think we can beat Germany or Brazil by going toe to toe, we have to be cute about it. If harry kane has the ball in the penalty area then that ball is in the back of the net.

{Ed001's Note - not really mate it is a myth. He is one of those that misses loads then scores one and all is forgotten.}



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