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13 Nov 2017 10:20:20
Hi eds

You said a while back that Goretzka is of no interest and that Barcelona ir Juve is a more likely destination. Can I ask is that still the case please as the appears to be lots of talks on here suggesting we are after him and also with the player saying he would like to move to England?

{Ed002's Note - What I would have said is that Liverpool has not approached Schalke which is correct (or at least was last time I asked). Leon Goretzka was of interest to Southampton in 2016 but Schalke said they had intention of selling in the short-term but as he has been reluctant to listen to offers of a new contract they are accepting he will leave at the end of his contract. Juventus still maintain their interest from the summer and MIlan are looking to making a second cash offer to take him in January - the first being rebuffed by Schalke who told them he would stay until the summer as they don't have a replacement. Barcelona are also interested in Leon Goretzka - but the player wants assurances over game time. Arsenal are interested but he is not first choice for them. Spurs, Inter, Manchester City and Bayern Munich have all looked at Goretzka as a possible option with Bayern Munich making it known that they would offer a guarantee but they cannot speak to him in January - although they will continue to make their position clear to his agent. A move to any of these sides seems less likely right now. Liverpool considered Goretzka when they were struggling to reach agreement over Nobby Keita but I am not aware, as everyone seems to be suggesting, that they have already agreed a January transfer with Schalke. His representative has recently met with Manchester United and another English side.}

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13 Nov 2017 11:36:28
HI Ed002,

Firstly thank you for your response in regards to the above.

What are the legalities surrounding a club letting a player know that if he were to wait until the summer to sign for them that he would be a starter (i. e. as Bayern have done) . Is there not a risk that this could upset Schalke and potentially be deemed as some form of tapping up by some?

Many thanks for your time in advance

Red Sandman.

{Ed002's Note - Bayern cannot talk directly to the player and they have not done that. They have spoken with his representative. That is just fine.}

13 Nov 2017 11:48:45
Cheers for your detailed reply ed really appreciate it mate, that's clear enough for me.

13 Nov 2017 13:47:59
I really don't get this if true.

Goretzka is quality and I'd love to see him at Liverpool, but he is pretty much a slightly taller version of Emre Can. Can is probably more creative and better defensively, but Goretzka is a better goal scorer by far.

If Klopp is willing to have a slightly less mobile midfielder, I'd rather he just reassures Can of his place in the team long term, than make a change for changes sake. Goretzka might hate England and want to leave in a year.

Weird one in my opinion. I really rate Goretzka and Can. They both remind me of Gerrard at a similar age with their powerful running, tall frames, and ability to score all kinds of goals.

The only explanation i can think of is that Klopp has rethought what he wants from his midfield, but Emre Can has already got his heart set on moving 🤔 that would explain why we'd replace him with a similar player. Either that, or Can just doesn't score enough goals in Klopp's opinion, as Goretzka scores double what Can does.

Could just be nonsense though i guess!

{Ed002's Note - Can doesn't want to play for Liverpool - he wants to leave.}

13 Nov 2017 14:04:18
That would explain it Ed. If Can has now gotten to a stage where he just wants to leave, and Klopp has decided he regrets phasing him out last season. Can has played far more this year than he did last year.

If that is the case, Goretzka would be an ideal replacement i guess. Though I'm still sceptical that we're actually interested.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation as I understand it - I am not aware that Liverpool has completed the transfer for him to join in January. Goretzka was certainly looked at as an alternative to Keita.}

13 Nov 2017 14:33:00
Cheers Ed. I'd rather Goretzka than Andre Gomes! The media are no doubt getting way ahead of themselves as usual though. I am not paying any attention to rumours the deal is done. Until you of 001 says we're interested, then it's just a rumour as far as I'm concerned.

By the way, since you told us that Andre Gomes will be offered for Coutinho, loads of places have reported it 😂 you're an anonymous internet sensation!

{Ed002's Note - They have a number of players available for both January and the Summer MK.}

13 Nov 2017 15:05:27
I would assume that is; L. Suarez, Mascherano, Gomes, Rafinha, Rakitic, D. Suarez, Vermaelen etc.

In your personal opinion Ed002, do you think there are any players Barcelona could realistically include in a deal that would represent good business for Liverpool, and who are they? Cheers in advance and no worries if you would rather not say.

{Ed002's Note - None of them represent good business unless Liverpool has an interest in them. Klopp seems to like Rafinha although they are talking to another side about him already.}

13 Nov 2017 15:31:33
Hi ed, as juve have signed matuidi and of can goes there, would they still look to goretzka?
Always trust what you say ed, but I would love to see him in a Liverpool shirt!

{Ed002's Note - Can and Goretzka are very different players and Juventus see Can playing in a defensive midfield role where they are light. Where they are not short is in the more central midfield position and they have Matuidi and several others, including Khedira Marchisio and Sturaro. Kwadwo Asamoah will leave in the summer and perhaps one other. They are still interested in Goretzka but are certain not convinced he will sign. But it is unrelated to Emre Can.}

13 Nov 2017 15:35:45
Cheers Ed.

13 Nov 2017 16:28:34
Firmane, Can and Goretzka can and have easily played together.

Can is slightly more defensive, and also the better passer, whereas Goretzka is better in air and a better shooter.

They are similar in terms of physique, mobility and style of play. Both players like to pick up the ball and drive forward (more with power than skill) . Can tends to start from deeper though and at the end of his runs he usually looks for a pass whereas Goretzka would have an eye on the goal every time.

Both great players. Similar in some ways, but as Ed002 suggested, very different capabilities. Germany won the Confederations Cup with them both playing alongside each other in midfield. So Juventus wouldn't hesitate to sign them both, I'm sure. Hopefully we end up with one of them in red next season; whichever it is! Neither really thrive when it comes to pressing, but perhaps Klopp now realises that not every midfield player has to just run around like a headless chicken!

13 Nov 2017 16:58:19
Mk I wasn't questioning whether they can play together, just thought juve had a few cms already, as we mentioned plus pjanic and wondered if it would be one or the other, but as we says they are not related.

13 Nov 2017 17:26:57
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14 Nov 2017 17:15:25
Completely agree with Ed that none of L. Suarez, Mascherano, Gomes, Rafinha, Rakitic, D. Suarez, Vermaelen or Turan are good business, either because they’re not good enough (Rafinha, Gomes, D. Suarez) or because they’re past their prime and would be a liability on the pitch (Rakitic, Mascherano, Turan, Vermaelen) or a complete lunatic and a liability on the pitch (L. Suarez) . A big sack of cash or no deal for Coutinho.

{Ed002's Note - Coutinho wants to go, it is a case of negotiating the best deal - this "big pile of cash or no deal" will leave Liverpool screwed if they have such ideas as well.}



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