Liverpool Banter

29 Apr 2024 14:22:15
A bit of topic but does anyone know the release date of the new jersey. It's my Nephew's birthday on the 11th of May. Can't find anything anywhere.

29 Apr 2024 16:27:08
Happy early Birthday to your nephew, man.

29 Apr 2024 16:48:12
They’ve not announced a date yet mate but it says potentially early May online.

29 Apr 2024 13:04:06
There is without doubt an agenda against Liverpool in the reffing side of things. If our players had fallen over like Everton players did for the softest of touches, we would never had gotten any of those free kicks. It takes our player to be seriously injured to gain any free kick. It's clear to see we just don’t get any decisions from the ref whilst he will give the opponent every decision.

29 Apr 2024 13:55:19
It's nothing against LFC it's just some refrees make silly mistakes or have their own favourite teams. Coz yesterday the amount of mistakes referees did was unbelievable and coast Spurs potential a champions league spot.

Think next season will be huge discussion going on with clubs managers and PGMOL coz now we have clubs on a weekly bases having to put statement about the officials 🤷.

29 Apr 2024 15:59:18
I don't think there is any agenda but I do think that we are on the receiving end of more bad decisions (in particular as you mention very soft free kicks against us and Salah being physically assaulted result in play being waved on) . It didn't feel like it a few years ago. It feels like Klopp's continuous ranting at the fourth official has had the opposite effect to what he was hoping.

Hopefully a change in the dugout will be enough for a bit of a reset next season but at the end of the day I truly believe that it is just the really poor standard of refereeing rather than corruption. To make matters worse it is then justified or glossed over by extremely biased media coverage.

29 Apr 2024 16:33:45
"Chief Scout", I don't think there is any specific agenda against LFC even tho, it is clear to see that the way some of them conduct themselves vs our players esp at Anfield is quite insolent.

I think the refs are just flat out incompetent and could not give a toss how incompetent the look or are cos that is only matched by their insane levels of arrogance and do all types of crap and then say, "Yeah, so what? What are ya going to do? Fire me? ". That's how they act and this is what a lack of accountability looks like and that is killing every club right now.

Just look at the absolute shambles of a stunt that Taylor pulled at WH (not even going to talk about the 3 pens. he missed in the Forrest/ Everton game)? Trust me, had we still had a fair shot at the title and that happened, there would be absolute bedelum right now and the PGMOL wouldn't know where to hid. The only reason we laugh now is cos we ain't winning nothing so no one cares.

29 Apr 2024 10:34:11
I really hope Slot is given the support and time by the players and fans to settle in and implement his ideas.

Hopefully player or fan power doesn't cause issues with the post Klopp hangover, with the that's not the way Klopp did it etc. He's not Klopp 2.0.

Things are going to be different and I for one am quite excited, it may or may not be a transitional season, but i hope he is given time, and with the media.

It must be strange for players especially for those like Trent who hasn't really known another manager in charge.

29 Apr 2024 11:28:28
Yeah, I don't think we should expect an instant change in form etc.
There is a lot of work to be done, players to be assessed whether they are good enough and fit within the plan for a change in the system. New additions etc.

Unfortunately I can't see us challenging for trophies next year, hopefully I am wrong though.

29 Apr 2024 11:37:51
It will be very difficult for Slot.

Just in this site, we have seen so many fans saying Klopp should have gone 2 years ago in a span of few poor results/ weeks.

But because it is a FSG signing, they will want him to come good and will also give him extended waranty.

It can't get any funnier when Ten Haag and Slot, Slot and Pep do these pressers. We are in for sureshot entertainment without doubt.

29 Apr 2024 13:10:50
Looking at our fanbase recently - he’s going to need all the luck he can get.

29 Apr 2024 12:59:25
SamiKewell. Have a read of ED001s Everton match review last week. Its really well written and insightful, its hard to disagree with his thoughts.

29 Apr 2024 16:42:35
Was Klopp not an FSG signing or did the City owners sign him for us? Seriously, what people make this distinction as if it's some kind of a thing? If we had signed Alonso, whose signing would he have been? Good heavens.

As for Slot, he will get the same time as i gave Klopp and he will get more time provided the wins are being put on the board cos winning and progress buys you time. It is the way it is. That's why Klopp got the time he got. We were improving a a very steady rate season after season until we won the lot.

29 Apr 2024 09:53:34
We’ve lost 4 league games this term with a completely new midfield and we are all but certain of Champions League next season.

Of course no fan accepts just the one cup as ultimate satisfaction, particularly as it is the lowest ranking of the 4 but what were we really expecting at the start of season? If I tracked back and read the posts at the beginning, most of you thought we’d be mid table obscurity - simply somewhere like where the Red Devils ultimately find themselves (much to my happiness).

It's not a 'great' season by any means and a shame that it fell off towards the end, but the work to give it a run and to improve - somewhat with a fair amount of change and also with some very decent youth in the ranks too - for me it is okay and with something to build on!

Our new management inherits some decent talent and I am sure will want to bring in some of his own.

I for one will get behind Slot, but before that I will continue to get behind this manager and his squad and thank them for their efforts in what is the most challenging league in the world without compare!

YNWA.

29 Apr 2024 10:38:02
Well said MetroRed.

How quickly we forget. According to some sections of so called Liverpool supporters Klopp should have left two years ago and now because of the touchline spat at the weekend they want Salah, one of the Premier Leagues best of all time wingers who has broken most records gone in the summer.

99% of Premier League clubs in their entire history can only dream about winning what we have won under Kloop.

Thanks to these guys and all the others the numbers on the trophy wall had to be changed practically every season and for that I will be for ever thankful.

29 Apr 2024 10:49:36
You, like many others unfortunately, are talking absolute nonsense. We were such overwhelming favourites for the Europa League that many fans have now got plane tickets and hotels for Dublin that they need to shift. As an absolute bare mimimum this season I expected us to reach the final of the Europa League and take City and Arsenal right to the wire.

We spent roughly £160m (not even including add-ons) on a whole new midfield because it was universally accepted that we failed last season due to the decline of Henderson, Milner, Ox and Fabinho. We had the front line and the backline to go toe to toe with anyone, and we rectified the glaring weakness in the side.

We proved in the first 30 games of the season that we are good enough to compete for the title and win several trophies. Instead of all this revisionist nonsense, why can't people just accept that we've underachieved? It doesn't make you less of a supporter to call out the truth. It doesn't mean you are disrespecting Klopp's overall achievements to say that he's lost his edge. By his own admission he couldn't do this anymore. It's just a sad reality, but living in this fantasy land where 3rd and a Carabao Cup was the best we could've hoped for is delusional. Just ask all those lads who've now got a random holiday in Ireland next month.

29 Apr 2024 10:54:07
Yeah most of us would have taken that before the season started.
But also as the season went on it was obvious that the squad was capable of going all the way as well.
So I think it’s a bit bitter sweet, because we all know another title was possible with a bit more luck.

29 Apr 2024 11:08:08
Although I agree with you that a prem title was not an expectation. We were sitting on top a couple of weeks ago and the wheels have completely fallen off. So peoples frustration stems from the fact we had the title in our own hands and to put it bluntly, compitulated. I really thought this season was going to be full of emotion and full buy in from the team and fans for a manager that gave us fans and his players all he had. It has baffled me how things have turned out. At the start of the season I would have happily taken 4th place as a pass mark. I don't know how to process how the season is ending right now.

29 Apr 2024 12:02:18
Nothing Wrong with feeling disappointed with how things have turned out but also realising that we had over performed to get in that position. One question if arsenal had similar injuries to us do you think they would be challenging for the title now.

29 Apr 2024 12:35:02
I'd put a years wage on that most posters or fans didn't expect mid table obscurity at the start of the season.

I'd even go as far as saying i could probably name the 2 who would have thought it and that's Harry and Walter (both great posters with their unique opinions)

But there is absolutely no most about it.

29 Apr 2024 12:57:48
Sorry MK but personally I don’t see how fans can be mad if they have booked flights and hotels in expectation and then complain the team doesn’t get there. You take your chances - that’s the game and we all know that. Liverpool could have easily gone out on a ref howler rather than a turgid performance. There are any number of reasons why you can get knocked out of a cup competition and those lads would still need to enjoy their Irish holiday all the same.

29 Apr 2024 13:52:49
I don't think anyone thought third and the Carabao Cup was the best we could achieve. And I think anyone that thinks a place in the Europa Cup final is a bare minimum is delusional.
I think a lot of fans took a punt (pun intended) on flights and hotels because Dublin is so convenient.
Had the final been in Kazakhstan I don't think that would have been the case. Either way it was a gamble, it didn't pay off and nothing to do with the team.

29 Apr 2024 14:10:26
You're missing the point though lads. I'm not saying those fans have a right to be annoyed about their money, because they don't. It was their risk to take and I certainly wouldn't have gambled hundreds if not thousands on us winning it. What I'm saying that people planning their trips there months in advance is clear evidence that many people were expecting more from this team. Especially after the favourable draw put Leverkusen, Milan and Roma away from us until the final.

It's just a bare faced lie to say we all thought this team was only capable of a Carabao up. I read this site daily and we were as a collective very optimistic about this season. Last season was being called a blip after the Quad chase took it out of us. Even the Blue nose Ed025 was speaking in glowing terms about our signing of Mac Allister. Szoboszlai signing generated a huge amount of excitement. We were all saying Nunez could really kick on and Virgil was back to his best.

Why are people lying to themselves to defend our capitulation? It's flaky at best. Call a spade a spade.

29 Apr 2024 16:54:00
MKS, I see what you're saying. for me, it is perfectly normal to feel the ay fans are feeling about how the season panned out cos Im just as frustrated and pee'd off about it cos the issues we had were there to be addressed and were never addressed. We were not clicking offensively nor defensively at a consistent level and were rising above these issues by sheer will and desire, IMO. At some point, that's going to burn you a and the chickens have now come home to roost.

At the same time, people should not come on and start acting like they thought we were shoe-in's to challenge and win the title cos none of these "fans" were saying that at the time esp. after the whole Caicedo debacle. Many of us did not even know what we were going to be cos there was so many unknowns and you guessed it, Klopp said so himself when he was asked if he knew we would be this/ that good at the time. It is the lack of perspective and disingenuous revisionist history I cannot stand. One can't complain that we won't challenge for the title in preseason and then when we do and fall short, you cry again cos we did not achieve what you yourself said at the start we would NOT achieve. Make up your damn mind, will ya?

Now it's tough the way things have happened and how the season has ended. I feel sorry for Klopp cos he looks spent. Did we under achieve? That's tough cos remember, the only way we would have achieved anything this season with the level of uncertainty going into the season, would have been to actually OVER-achieve. Did we do that based on that? Love to hear your answer.