05 Aug 2015 15:33:58
Eds, can anyone shed light on why lovren is preferred over sakho. Sakho has everything we need in a center back, speed stength vision passing and composure. It's baffling as a supporter that we don't play one of our best players.
{Ed002's Note - Dear Brendan ....}
05 Aug 2015 16:16:00
Except Composure Sakho has everything. Sakho is not the very best with the ball. One reason being he is left footed.
You need to be calm, Heads up and your hands should be looking for options when you carry the ball forward from back.
Agger was the best.
05 Aug 2015 16:22:48
Everyone sees different things in a player,there are those on these pages who never rated Mascherano,for example .
I find that unbelievable, but it's just life I guess.
05 Aug 2015 16:27:12
I'm a Rodgers supporter but even I don't get this. I'm not convinced that Sakho's a long term solution but he's better than Lovren.
With any luck he'll surprise us on Sunday and play him.
05 Aug 2015 17:31:49
Are you implying that just because he is left footed he is not good on the ball? Really ?? I would list out examples but you already gave a fine one in agger
05 Aug 2015 17:34:00
What?
". Left footed"?
That stops you being good with the ball?
Wow. How good would Digger have been but for that handicap?
05 Aug 2015 17:34:58
Composure - that's not different people that's people who know football and people who don't.
Although sakho always looked for a good forward pass, he is like 'bambi on ice'
He looked the most impressive during the friendlys though, very sharp. I think he only played one mind lol
I think were at a point that the club is banking on Brendan winning because I don't see a new coach coming in and saying he happy with our defence (apart from clyne bit that's even wait and see what he's like out of southamptona protection) and gk and even a new dm.
If we settle for a coach who will work with what he has then we might not get the best coach available.
Also I think the club our going for we will out score you or which is the most likely and worrying is that brebdan actually rates migs, martin, dejan and Alberto so highly we might not look tl replace them ifbwe succeed by outscoring people this tern. Meaning we might never see a proper defence and keeper under Brendan.
05 Aug 2015 17:37:27
Harry, your contradictions are stupendous. First you say one reason sakho is no good with passing is because he's primarily left-footed. You then proceed to proclaim Agger as being the best. Amazing.
05 Aug 2015 18:03:58
Sacky is average. But let's face it Lovren and Skrtel have had their chance and they are absolutely terrible. None of the central defenders are great and neither is the goal keeper. But our midfield and now strikers when all fit are solid and we have a decent team from midfield up
05 Aug 2015 18:09:38
Sakho cannot move his right foot by a millimeter. Agger had no such issue being a left footed player. Agger was calm and composed with the ball.
Gareth bale and Robben are left footed player, yet play on the right hand side, any problem there?
05 Aug 2015 18:26:00
I'm not sure Sakho is all that. For me the jury's still out on him. When he gets his man up close, one-on-one - there's only one winner: his strength and aggression always win out. However, he is prone to mistakes and for me doesn't look comfortable on the ball. I'm not saying Lovren is better. I'm merely saying that Sakho doesn't appear to me to be as 'secure' as people are making out.
05 Aug 2015 18:30:43
George Best had quite a bit of composure on the ball too.
05 Aug 2015 18:38:52
Hale, what you chatting about Mascherano?
Nonsense that, and you wasn't even on these pages.
05 Aug 2015 18:58:35
I think Brendan is alphabetist. Look at his signings recently:
Benteke
Bogdan
Clyne
Firmino
Gomez
Ings
Milner
Also in prior seasons:
Allen
Borini
Balotelli
Lovren
And meanwhile he's sold Suarez, Sterling and is freezing out Sakho.
I think the guy needs to get some anti-alphabetist training.
05 Aug 2015 19:54:21
Do you want a shovel Harry?
05 Aug 2015 20:19:59
Finally! People are recognising that Sakho is not a god. He is aggressive and powerful, but his ball control and short range passing are terrible. As someone else pointed out, Bambi on ice is spot on. But yeah, the other defenders are not great either.
05 Aug 2015 20:22:35
I think having the same CB partnership helps a lot .If Sakho can stay fit he would be my first choice with
Lovren not ideal but I think they are the best we got,Skrtel to slow and sets too deep so the midfielders have a larger area to cover , but keeping Sakho fit for most of the season will be hard
05 Aug 2015 19:11:36
Obviously this is speculation.
But could there be the possibilty that Skrtel was consulted & asked who he prefers to partner with? (And asked who he is more comfortable playing with?)
. just a thought.
Personally I'd prefer Sakho as well.
05 Aug 2015 20:30:10
I believe lovern will come good. I know we all expect a 20mill player to be good from the word go but I believe if he can improve his confidence we will see a different side to him.thats just my opinion now ;)
05 Aug 2015 20:33:11
Bale played on the left hand side for spurs EG. Robben plays on the right for munich,it was the left for Chelsea,I think it's the left for the netherlands.
05 Aug 2015 21:51:56
Imagine how good Messi would've been if he was right footed!
05 Aug 2015 22:20:46
still blame him for the gerrard slip. terrible ball to play
05 Aug 2015 22:22:46
In terms of releasing the ball forward, Sakkho is the most skillful defenders we had in some time. Fantastic passer. He is very confident with the ball - sometime over confident, that is his only weakness for me - sometime you have to release the ball quickly and not wait for the perfect pass - but more often than not he will find the perfect pass - and that takes a lot of pressure of our defence. He also almost never doesn't pass back to the kepper. This is also one of Loverns main weaknesses releasing the ball forward. So for me Sakkoh over Lovern without a doubt.
05 Aug 2015 23:09:53
George Best was actually right footed but 'taught' himself to use his left foot when he allegedly was inspired watching Real Madrid and in particular their left winger (Gento ?) warm up before a friendly against United.
The thing is Skirtel is the best natural defender of the three mentioned, Sakho is the best natural leader of the three and Lovren - well you need someone to get the bovril at half time I suppose. If wew had a coach who was a useful man manager, or even a man manager who was a useful coach . hey ho
05 Aug 2015 23:37:55
I had to a double take on that left footed comment because my brain couldn't quite comprehend that level of stupid at the first attempt.
He's trolling right? You are trolling? Please tell me your trolling.
05 Aug 2015 23:54:16
imagine how good robbie fowler would have been if he was right footed euro glory , what nonsense about the left foot , fowler was left footed and he did ok don't you think , sakho is a beast and should be played BR does not know his arse from his elbow never mind his 1st team that's why he played so many players out of position last season look at playing a winger as a striker when we had 3 strikers waiting to get a game , and stop going backwards start looking forwards agger has gone , yes he was good but let's move on , i think sakho would be a great CB if given the game time , the was i see it is BR has is favourite players and he plays them at the expence of the team and club and fans , instead of putting out the best 11 he puts out his favourites ,
06 Aug 2015 00:12:39
So many excuses, so just useless and illogical, to explain why Sahko is not good enuff. One said because he's left footed, another blames him for SG's slip (first I have ever heard of because it was SG that took his eye off the ball that was played directly to feet), while another calls him every other name in the book. All pathetic excuses, IMO. Sahko is not perfect and neither is any CB. But it takes a lot to be France capt where Mangala, Koscielny and Varane scramble for the other CB spot while he is the starter. He is a superb passer of the ball and his ability to play a forward pass over fifteen yards is unrivaled by the other cbs we have. He gets caught out in possession because he has no one to pass to and the mids often don't show for a pass. He is a beast and tougher and a bigger a Bully than Skrtel who only looks like one. When he and Lucas play, we rarely lose and the numbers support that. He's our best CB by a mile and is better than defenders who are actually better than our cbs in Varane and Koscielny.
PS:The poster that dared to blame him for SG's slip, your post is a disgrace and the fact that you even had the Gaul to want to pin SG's mistake on Sahko shows me the type of person you are and you sir, are a disgrace
06 Aug 2015 01:12:08
Nice one EMS! Sakho does look ungainly but is actually good on the ball, strong, quick and a good passer, whilst being impossible to bully. unlike Mr Skrtel. Definitely our best centre half. I also agree with an earlier poster who said that he thinks that lovren will come good, however he needs to be paired with Sakho. Also like Clyne and Gomez could potentially be our best bargain since big Sami. There could be optimism for our defence this year it just depends on Mr Rodgers realising that Skrtel is the issue and picking Lucas whenever fit. Somewhere near Ed001 as I bow down to your superior knowledge?
{Ed001's Note - Skrtel is first choice though :-(
06 Aug 2015 06:21:03
Adam
Yes, the moment he starts using his right foot for the slightest, he would be untouchable.
06 Aug 2015 07:02:12
Sakho is left footed and cannot operate on the right hand side. I have hardly seen him using his right foot at all. Sakho buckles when under pressure or someone press him. Once you nutmeg then he is helpless.
But he is the best we have got with us.
06 Aug 2015 08:06:37
I think EG meant he is only left footed. Even then there are plenty who get by. robben for example
06 Aug 2015 13:15:14
Thanks Ed001. Yes I realise Skrtel is first choice. You mentioned the new no. 2 (can't for the life of me remember his name) is an intelligent man wit a good understanding of the game? I'm just hoping that after a few typical Skrtel errors, he will highlight the problem for Rodgers and make him see the error in his ways!
06 Aug 2015 16:39:34
If BR hasn`t seen that Skrtel is aweful after near 3 years, I doubt he`ll see it now. Here`s to hoping, tho.
06 Aug 2015 18:23:45
I personally think skrtel is adequate. not great, but relatively clinical. he'd do better with a team like stoke/sunderland where passing out of the defense is not a priority. As for people saying sakho isn't good with the ball, this is a myth at best. The way he handles the ball often makes it appear this way, but it was the same with crouch. Smaller players always appear more composed with the ball. Sakho, I believe, is a world class defender. It should be sakho illori all day long. Lovren has had his chances, he has nothing else to prove and playing him will only cost us points and potentially 4th place