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22 Apr 2017 11:34:40
Just reading Pearce in the Echo he is saying our targets are the likes of VVD, Brandt, Kieta etc. I don't understand Kieta links though as he seems to be another CM player of which we already have Hendo Can Wijnaldum Lallana Lucas and a few other fringe players. Ed can you explain to me were another CM would fit into the squad please and if we are genuinly looking at Kieta as an option?

{Ed001's Note - Lucas may well leave, Lallana is fine against the big boys but goes missing against the rest (usually after mouthing off to the press about how he won't), and we have a lot more games next season, hopefully.}

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22 Apr 2017 12:22:32
From what I have seen of Keita, he is an absolute beast of a midfielder, a class above anyone we have. If there is an opportunity to upgrade a position in the squad regardless of the numbers already in the squad, then why not? Like Ed001 said, Lucas and Stewart are probably gone and Hendo's injury problems unlikely to go away plus additional European games coming up, Keita would not only shore up the numbers in midfield but also represent an upgrade in quality on both Gini and Lallana.

22 Apr 2017 12:17:13
I'd rather we bought Keita for centre midfield than Oxlade as Keita is a proper centre midfielder not a square peg in a round hole.

22 Apr 2017 12:16:05
Not just Lallana ed, you always use him as an example. Never once seen you use Hendo as an example and for a captain sometimes he's abysmal.

You have your favs.

{Ed001's Note - or perhaps its because he never goes missing. Never once has he been abysmal. Anyway there are enough moronic boo boys like you having a go at Hendo, why should I join in with the stupidity? I use Lallana as an example because he is the main culprit. Always shouting his mouth off and then failing to live up to it. He should learn to shut his mouth and do his talking on the pitch.}

22 Apr 2017 12:41:09
Ox is of no interest to us Mr Dennis and not sure we would be first choice for Keita either.

22 Apr 2017 12:48:56
It seems that some posters dismiss players abilities just because they don't like them. Henderson abysmal? He may not be as effective as he should be in some games (all players get that), but abysmal?
When did slagging your own players off become "the Liverpool way"?

22 Apr 2017 12:50:05
Henderson is not the type which needs his ego to be massaged. He gets onto the pitch and does his talking there, not off of it. That is the resemblance of a true captain.

Milner and Lucas two other players who have enough professionalism about them to wear the armband.

22 Apr 2017 12:53:37
Cheers for reply ed I do appreciate all of your replys. Am I right in thinking Kieta would want CL and assured game time?

{Ed001's Note - it would be more a case of wanting to know what role the manager has in mind for him and CL.}

22 Apr 2017 13:24:50
Henderson has limitations and anyone disagrees are big time fan of the player. You are not going win a tea cup with professionals like Milner and Lucas. The club has been under mediocrity from ages and the fans are used to utter failures. Except the odd Couts and Mane we have nothing to show.

A deep lying playmaker who can't turn the ball from his feet towards the opposition in his own half is called Average. A CM is generally supposed to do a lot more than what he does. Doesn't score enough goals for all the running hence he was shipped to DLP role by Klopp and brought a CM in Wijnaldum ( eveb he doesn't score ) .

His passing is so conservative that we relies heavily up on Matip to bring the ball forward or Coutinho dropping into the middle. Now you know why we are linked with Kiera ( CM ) who scores and assists regularly unlike our midfielders!

Hypothetically would you buy Henderson again for £30 mill from Sunderland if you are in CL and need a CM?

Absolutely Not!

Cheers.

22 Apr 2017 14:55:03
Cool down Harry. No one said we are going to win everything with Hendo in the side. But at the moment he is one of the few players in the squad that will bust his gut in every game he plays and his leadership and consistency levels are to be admired. Keita would be a fantastic signing but he will need a partner in midfield and the likes of Gini, Can and Hendo provide solid options.

22 Apr 2017 17:41:01
The Baby face Mr Klopp will soon turn into Mr Ruthless Klopp once the pressure starts to mount on his head. I am looking for a record number of players to be shipped this summer. Keita is just one of the names. The entire midfield will be Re-shaped in an year or two. Wijnaldum would be the only survivor according to me!

{Ed033's Note - What! you mean Dr Jurgen will turn into Mr Klopp after drinking the Kool-Aid?

22 Apr 2017 17:43:23
Harry you really need to brush up on the facts.

Keita has 8 goals and 8 assists this season. Lallana has 7 and 7. Wijnaldum has 5 and 8.

Keita plays as far more advanced role than Henderson normally. Henderson the last season he played higher up got 7 goals and 15 assists.

So in terms of goals and assists, Keita is not streets ahead of our current players. But more importantly Henderson was not dropped deep because he lacked ability in the finally third! He was moved back because he is our best player for the position. 15 assists puts him in the same sort of bracket as players like Ozil, Fabregas, De Bruyne etc in terms of creating goals!

Keita would be a great player, and would play in our team easily. Not because our current midfielders lack an attacking threat though. That is a myth you have fabricated in your head.

22 Apr 2017 19:52:04
Great post, MK. The myth that Hendo is a poor player only exists in people's heads, not in reality especially to those who use their eyes to watch the games closely instead of just spouting alternative and made up facts like Donald Trump.

As for Keita, I'll be surprised if he signed here if we don't stump up the cash. Why? He just moved to RBL this season and RBL have SEVERELY deep pockets and can match any wages being offered for their players (their words exactly) hence, don't need to sell. If he comes, great. If he doesn't, don't be surprised BUT I'm sure many fans will come on here spouting nonsense about how FSG are stingy with money.

22 Apr 2017 19:25:40
He would become the dark knight Ed033 😎.

22 Apr 2017 21:38:44
This midfield has won nothing for ages and if you persists with the same people you will nothing ever going forward and thank heavens Klopp knows it. He's ill wipe out the average bunches with proper quality footballers. Henderson will be phased out in an year or two. Mark my words. The team has fallen short by a good 12 points of the top.

He is not a CM, not a DM or not even a DLP. We don't eve knows what he is after 5 good years. He has 20 goals in over 180 appearances with Liverpool.

23 Apr 2017 00:46:52
Keita, or his type, is another technical and infatiguable player that we can slot in to the rotation. We don't lack depth of quantity, but definitely a lack of depth in quality. I'd love this signing!

{Ed007's Note - That infatiguable better not be a sweary word and I get up to a row from Ed001.}

23 Apr 2017 07:58:07
Geez Harry you need a reality check. Hendo was one of the reasons why we almost won the league in 13-14, as was immediately demonstrated when he was suspended late in the season - all our energy and our creativity went missing. His move deeper has been a major factor in our improved performances in the last 12 months, it's just very unfortunate he's got an ongoing injury issue.

I do think Keita would be a great signing because we do need improved depth if he's going to continue to struggle with his heel, but there's no reason to slam our midfield, which in my opinion is right up there with the best. We've rarely been bettered in a midfield battle against the top 6, but as Ed says we need to improve against bottom sides and that isn't down to Hendo IMO.

23 Apr 2017 08:02:12
Slanging off Lallana is okay, especially when done by Ed11. But when we do for Hendo we are boo boiz got and okay to be called moronic.

{Ed001's Note - not what I said at all and I was not just mindlessly slagging off Lallana, I was complaining about his weaknesses which are there for all to see. The complaints about Henderson are always moronic lies with no basis in reality, like your post.}

23 Apr 2017 13:21:35
Omg harry, you will persist with this hendo slagging. To say he cannot pass from midfield is so disingenuous and thank you MK for bringing some facts to the discussion. However this site is about opinions and i respect that you have your own and don't follow the crowd.

I agree with the sentiment of bringing in quality now but only demonstrably better players that will come into the first team. I don't see kieta as that but with hopefully extra games next season he would be a welcome addition especially if lucas leaves.

Personally i feel we need to bring in two to three max top quality winners who have strong temperaments. Players that will not go missing and be leaders on the pitch. Who those players are i don't know, that's klopps job to identify. I know i know nothing, i was against the mane signing and look how that turned out.







 

 

 
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