Liverpool banter 9

04 May 2026 07:49:06
Slot has a very interesting take on how you should play football. In my opinion, football is an easy game, play the ball forwards to runners. It really is that simple. I don't watch the games anymore as it’s such a horrible experience and a bore fest.

Such a shame, especially with that squad. Players do not go from winners to losers like this team has. Something is very wrong with the mentality at the moment.

{Ed078's Note - mate, you sound as old as me. I played pro for just 1 season and the game did seem much simpler. But, it's a science today. Conditioning coaches, dieticians, statisticians, analysists, set piece coaches, throw in coaches for crying out loud. There's no going back.

04 May 2026 07:59:02
Football is a simple game made complicated by idiots.

{Ed078's Note - one of Bill's great sayings.

04 May 2026 08:33:32
What's the science called when it promotes more holidays than training days?

{Ed025's Note - shirkology..

04 May 2026 08:38:30
I'd say it was the coaches and the over complicated tactical set ups that are ruining everything.
I'm all for the dietitians, conditioning coaches etc. Players should be as fit as possible in the prem.
But, have you ever met footballers? 90% of them are as thick as mince and I can only imagine the blank faces when the likes of Slot are trying to teach them tactics.


No wonder we look clueless half the time.
Just do the basics right, get the ball into the box as quickly as possible, run quick, pass quick, press quick. Give the players some fire and belief.
Plus any flair seems to have disappeared from the game as well. The players must be so bored playing such dull football.

04 May 2026 08:40:16
JLC, I think that's called Ibizology.

04 May 2026 09:11:35
I think it all boils down to simple things.
The fitness levels have dropped so significantly that the high press and the energy used in the 'Heavy Metal Football' of the Klopp era are no longer attainable.

All through this season I've noticed that players look tired after 70 minutes of unacceptably pedestrian football, and it's all down to fitness and conditioning.

This would likely be fine in the Dutch Eredivisie, but not in the English Premier League, where so-called inferior teams seem able to run us into the ground, especially towards the end of the match.



I'm in the 'Sack Slot' group as he looks to be on a completely different wavelength to the fans, the dressing room and the hard realities of being successful in a highly competitive league.

I can't envisage that any board worth their salt could stomach another season of the shambolic ineptitude being served up by this coach, who is clearly completely out of his depth.

Sitting on the fence, I am not!

04 May 2026 10:25:00
How are we still having the same conversations 7 months on?

Who's running this club? 🤡

04 May 2026 10:28:36
Good point, Klopp's philosophy was simple, which is why it worked so well. Work hard, press high and attack with intent - win the ball up high and hit them hard.
Football is a simple game, win your battles and give your creative/goal scorers the ball - I do think, as well as being unfit and playing too slowly, we have suffered from having no pace outwide/up tip.

I think, sort this and that will solve a lot of our problems (of course we need a dm and rb too).

04 May 2026 10:31:20
Whole media has switched sides. I am guessing Slot's days are numbered now.

04 May 2026 12:09:20
Bozo and friends LFC8.

04 May 2026 08:34:00
One of the best quotes ever, Ed78. As you say, football is not just a science right now. It has now become a philosophy. Now, I may not have played pro like you did but I played at a decent level and everyone just knew what to do, where to be depending on whether you had possession, where you had it etc. Oh, and we all knew how to take a throw-in. Now, we are watching robotics, algebra and Calculus, all in the name of football. mad, right?

As for Slot's idea o n how to play football, this is not complicated to discern. All you have to do is watch us play thru out this season and you will know Slot's "take" about how to play football or in this case, Slotball.

04 May 2026 09:40:10
Ed - i'm in my 50s. I played to county level and had a decent run in some very talented sides. What I would say is with all the access to modern science the condition of the players should be way better. We used to survive on cross country, wine gums and oranges at half time. We didn't break down like these modern players do and we would play rugby and football in the same week. What science hasn't done is change how football is played, pressing has always been a thing it is nothing new, neither is high line defending, nor is explosive wingers, nor overlapping or inverted full backs.

I would have played for Liverpool for free, shame I was never good enough to make it as a pro. The game itself is still very simple, forward passing and constant movement. Last time I watched us I didn't see any of that, slow sideways and backward passing to static players. I did watch the highlights of the PSG v Bayern game, just goes to show that football does not have to be boring and can be entertaining. It's an entertainment business, take that away and the joy is sucked out of it. Hence why I don't watch anymore, it's just a bore fest and the Premier League this season has been terrible.

{Ed078's Note - agreed. I've been shocked at our physical fitness levels this season, particularly early on, when you'd think they'd be primed.

04 May 2026 07:39:01
{Ed's Note - Reddevilfan has posted a new article entitled, How United Get Back to Title Contention

04 May 2026 10:52:46
You might have beaten an inept Liverpool this season, but you're a long way from winning a league. Don't get ahead of yourselves, you're still not that good.

04 May 2026 07:23:18
Hmm if we change a manager there is a way Salah can stay next year?
I don't think we can be where we got to be without him with the new manager. Honestly I wouldn’t mind Salah as the new player manager in this moment.

There has to be a way for Salah to continue. I don't think he has suddenly lost all his love for the club fans and city.

{Ed078's Note - what time is it where you are? Assuming it's way past opening hours.

04 May 2026 07:44:11
It's 10:30 am here in UAE.

{Ed078's Note - nice, just stirring as your post seemed a bit "out there". Salah as player manager, hilarious :)

04 May 2026 08:32:12
Desperate times. Anything to get rid of Slot now and keep Salah.

{Ed078's Note - I get it, but Salah 2 years ago, with Bobby and Sadio, not this current Salah, surely?

04 May 2026 08:36:28
Cafu, Salah plays? We are crap. Salah does not play? We are still crap. I think we should just let sleeping dogs lie and let Mo go on a high, with his honour, dignity and legendary status intact.

04 May 2026 09:20:37
Simple mathematics?
If you remove 1 Slot, does that equal a happier Salah, because a happier Salah would surely be a much better player.
Well, they'd all be better players if you let them do what they're best at!
Like having a greyhound, letting it laze around all day, eat, and wander up and down your yard.

When they're born to run and are so much happier when you do!

04 May 2026 10:15:48
Salah from one year ago was breaking records.
I hate this narrative that his legs have gone and he's finished. They have scapegoated him for the slop that Slot is serving up. We are beyond lucky to be fourth. It's incredible. The standard of the Premier League is so poor. We should have absolutely walked it this season.

I can't really believe we're in this position. Watching the game yesterday, and thinking this is going to be their revenge for the drubbing we gave them. And then getting to the end of the match, losing 3-2, feeling like we got away with one?? How are we here after being champions last season??

04 May 2026 09:27:32
The salah disrespect is mind boggling. Yes ed, this salah that smashed the premeir league goal contribution record last season only. How is he done?? Still among top scorers and assists for club in this trash season 12 goals 9 assists. 9 continuous seasons for 35+ goals and assist with 20+ goals every season.
everyone else is judged and given a pass cuz they are trash because of slots tactics but salah oh salah is done he should be doing everything on his own!
Yes i'd have him over any damn one else out there. Cuz give him right people and he will still score 20+ goals next season.

Tell you what you'd have him at united closed eyes even now for one season cuz he walks into any epl team even today.

{Ed078's Note - hmm. How is it disrespectful to Salah to say it's hilarious for you to suggest you'd have him as player manager? Has he said this is what he wants? Have I been on another planet and missed it?
Why would you say I'd have him at Utd? I'm not a Utd supporter.
If you think the Salah of today walks into any PL team, then I admire your love for the guy.

04 May 2026 07:02:49
Hi Ed001. You replied to a post yesterday saying that Slot has fallen out with a lot of the senior players. Can you give any more on who and why please?

{Ed001's Note - it is pretty obvious isn't it? Salah being the main one. And why? Because Slot has let standards slip and no one is working hard any more. Players like Salah and Robertson, who have pride in their work, don't enjoy this.}

04 May 2026 07:56:26
Pretty clear, when both decided to leave, that Slot would be likely staying. Time for Anfield to get involved, win, lose or draw, and show their discontent towards Slot. Only way the board will listen.

04 May 2026 07:57:34
Salah obviously and I figured Robertson. Just wondered if it's a more widespread thing. I would have thought the basics for anything would be hard work and any coach should set the standards. Thanks Ed001

{Ed001's Note - Szobo, Jones and a few others. Don't worry though, Mac Allister and Konate are happy, those two couldn't give a shit about how bad we are. Konate should have been f'ed off last summer, all this sympathy over his dad is all well and good, but his performances are crap and never improved because he doesn't give a toss. He only cares about his stupid idiotic clothing on international break.}

04 May 2026 08:27:22
Konate is a waste of space and Mac Allister likewise. Rarely, a game goes by when Konate doesn't make a basic mistake leading to a goal. There seems to be a lack of effort all round, which may reflect the players' dissatisfaction, and I don't see how that changes without changes above.

Add to that the obvious imbalances in the squad, it looks grim for next season. I hope I'm wrong but it's worrying how far we've dropped off. Eleven league defeats, ffs.

04 May 2026 08:42:11
Indeed. The fact that Jones, a guy that bleeds the red of Liverpool (the city and the club) wants to go and Robbo wanted to go to Spurs of all places, is all people need to know.

Salah was forced out, imo, and Ali potentially is next, should the Juve rumours be true. So the club is gonna get rid of all these guys just to keep Slot, really?

I'm with Babbity.

The crowd at Anfield need to get involved. These clowns are gonna destroy all the club. Klopp and our Klopp era players (past and present) have shed blood, sweat and tears to build over the years. Rise up!!

04 May 2026 09:17:36
Brummyred and Oli, regarding the crowd getting involved, it's highly unlikely to happen. If CL were impossible, there may have been a slight chance. Two games to go. I can see there being ticket protests, again, the weekend, then the last game will be all about Salah and Robbo.



You are right that supporters revolting would bring about what most of us want, but, like I say, I'm pretty sure it won't happen.

04 May 2026 09:47:49
Upamecano being favored over Konate for France says it all for me. I like the lad as a person but his progress with LIV is a regress. 💯

04 May 2026 09:49:05
Rome, but then are the fans just accepting mediocrity and happy to get a top 4/5 finish after winning the title and spending so much money?
For me personally im disgusted with our performances and league position. I dont buy the 'no one's entitled to win the league' blurb that gets posted on here all the time. We are reigning champions, we spent vast sum of money in the summer, almost every pundit in the various polls had Liverpool to retain the title including people like Neville and Keane. And so did I, what we've witnessed is a shambolic title defense, worse than Leicester because they didnt have the squad and investment we did.
Accepting 4/5 to me seems like the fan base have reverted back to the Liverpool of the 90's, it's just nice to be relevant and have a good cup run, its not the attitude of winning supporters.

Utd supporters during Fergies reign didnt have this defeatist attitude, neither do City's now and we didnt during the Klopp revolution. But it seems that's been completely eroded and not taking part seems good enough.
I really can understand posters saying they may not bother watching some matches next season as the football is so very bad with zero improvement. Then we get it was worse under Roy or Roger's, they didnt have these players and this huge investment.
* Has any player progressed this season under our Coach?
* Have any players regressed this season under our coach?
Sorry all for the long post but its soul destroying this season to be a Liverpool fan, the collapse is unprecedented.

04 May 2026 10:24:20
I agree with all this. Man Utd 3 Liverpool 2 on paper screams Premier League classic. Will anyone in years to come remember this game? Look at the amount of possession we had yesterday. They gave it to us because they knew we wouldn't do anything with it.


I don't want this to come across as whining that we didn't win. I honestly
don't care as long as the game was entertaining and the players leave everything on the pitch. I hate that we're going to get Champions League because it's rewarding insipid football.

04 May 2026 10:30:49
Get rid of Mac Allister and Gravenberch, they are awful or they just don't know what they are meant to do.

We need new manager and some hard grafters. These skinny players of ours are getting pushed around.
Stop Play Rio on the right. Losing that ball granted the goal to Man Utd. Play him more on the left, else another player will lose his confidence.

04 May 2026 10:46:55
It's so frustrating to watch us now. Yet again, abysmal yesterday. Awful first half. Get back level in the second, and then he reverts the team to holding out again, when it's obvious to a blind man that we are not set up, by him, to be able to do that.
And that is how it's been for so much of this season.


He should have been sacked months ago.
So much wrong at the moment through the club.
Hughes & Edwards are only intent on self-protection.
They are giving Gravy a massive contract. Negotiations with Konate, when he should have been jettisoned last year.

04 May 2026 10:58:14
Rio came alive on the left.

If we keep out truly great no1...

Ali.
Kayode - Vvd - Jacquet - Kerkez.
Sadiki or Grav.
Szobo - Wirtz.
Diomande - Isak/Hugo - Rio.


Rotations - M. Mane, Stephenson, Frimpong, Leoni, Tsimi, Jaros, Curtis, Beck, Trey, McConnell.

Basically, trust in youth but get a CDM, RB and RW.

04 May 2026 10:58:58
Kayode, Diomande, Sadiki, Gomes are grafters.

04 May 2026 10:31:41
I read Salah said something in one of his interviews about the importance of the club finding someone else to set the standards, once he's left. It screams of a very worrying trend and backs up exactly what ed1 has said here. The standards have clearly gone

04 May 2026 06:57:09
Ed001 what's your thoughts on Frimpong? .
I feel he should if played should go nowhere near right wing unless there is just open space to run into like he got in Germany he offers nothing.


Yesterday even without 3 days off for a change what obviously Slot and the staff have earned this season for such a good job 😜 I don't think he could have got the team selection any worse.

{Ed001's Note - he is not a winger and only a moron would keep playing him as one when we have alternative options. If he plays, he has to play as a wing-back, so that he is running into space on the overlap. Slot is making a bigger arse of it than ever. And his whining yesterday about VAR, after we got absolutely f****** creamed and could have lost by a much bigger margin, was just embarrassing. He should have gone months ago, now he is turning into a hate figure, when he should have been gone with a bit of pride. Too many holidays and not enough work, part time bull****.}

04 May 2026 07:26:05
Glad to see you not mince your words there ed1

{Ed001's Note - that was me holding back. I have to go round to apologise to my neighbours later, I can only imagine what they must have thought hearing me!}

04 May 2026 07:38:01
Ed001 that's sums him up perfectly for me he should be a manager I remember fondly but I can't stand him now and the longer it goes on the worse I feel about the man.
If he had any morals he would have walked in the summer when he knew he could not commit to the job 100% like Klopp did but it's quite clear he just wanted the pay check without the work.


He has not just destroyed his legacy with us he has ruined a Salah's end of his time with us I feel Ed if everything had stayed the same with training we would have walked this league this season and Salah would have added at least another 20+ league goals this season and next season would have been his farewell season.

{Ed001's Note - I agree, Salah should be enjoying his farewell, rather than this.}

04 May 2026 08:05:25
Hiya Ed love your take. Surely the higher ups are seeing this and knowing this isn't right, how can you give the team time off, play like they like and think that's acceptable.

Do the higher ups have the head stuck firmly in the sand or up their a*ses.

{Ed001's Note - Edwards and Hughes? Those two are clueless. They should never have been given the roles they have.}

04 May 2026 08:20:09
Ed001 an with you on Hughes and Edwards but I find it impossible to think anyone in football closely watching what Slot is doing with days off all the time and them guys like all the statistics and when they see we are out run in nearly every game they must know it's him.
That is what am hoping and it's just a case of them waiting for the season to be done before they sort this out.


When Alonso or Iraola take over as both wanted to wait till the summer and they did not want the Gerrard route as if he had turned it around this season with him being who he is it would be hard to replace him and he is not a long term option.

{Ed001's Note - I don't care if they are just waiting for the summer, Hughes and Edwards need to be out that door too for not getting rid of Slot months ago. It is their job to see how things are going and deal with it, not wait until a convenient time for them.}

04 May 2026 08:55:19
ED01 I think you speak for a lot of fans and i love the straight talking. I've supported the club for 57 years, and it upsets me to see what's going on after we got back to where we should be.

The heart seems to be torn out of the team. I only hope The three Stooges are gone in the summer while there is still enough left to salvage and go again.

{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed mate.}

04 May 2026 09:34:19
Slot has single handedly ripped all the hard work Klopp spent almost a decade in unifying the club.
If he's not gone in the summer we are heading back to mediocrity.

04 May 2026 09:52:01
Apparently fans of Man United, Man City, Everton and Arsenal have joined forces to sign a petition for Liverpool to keep Slot at the end of the season, and also offer him a new 10 year contract.

04 May 2026 08:47:53
Ed, you were that loud and was still holding back? I propose you go into an empty warehouse and really let it out because if you do that with the neighbours around, the cops may be called, lol.

Just kidding. The perf. yesterday was just laughable and trust me, I don't want United to even win a set piece. We were (for the upteenth time) atrocious. You don't even need to watch the whole game (in abject agony). All you have to do is watch Shearer's breakdown of LFC our of possession in transition. We are so at sea without a paddle with the amount of gaps United players were running into.

For me and there is way too much evidence of this: I think we are one of if not, the worst coached team in the PL. Oh, what am I saying? We aren't even being coached at all so forget what I just said.

04 May 2026 10:31:28
It wasn't a single handed job by Slot. Hughes and Edwards have a lot to answer for as well. Them enabling and backing Slot even now is ripping the soul from the squad and we are seeing it now with the exodus of players who want out.

04 May 2026 08:52:10
Interesting your saying all this Ed.
After yesterday, i found myself full of hatred.
I think I actually hate Slot now.
The job he has, to be half assing it, is an absolute disgrace! There are people who would kill for this position.
Spewing absolute sh**e in press conferences.

The delusion is staggering.
The other two upstairs who have not made any decision and accepted this muck for 6 months are just as bad.
I just pray, that slot wants to go home and leaves, or that FSG have some common sense and step in if the other 2 don't.
🙏

04 May 2026 09:55:47
Ed, the match review is going to be tough for you I would assume. You might need to apologise to your neighbours twice in one week for all the swearing they might hear.

{Ed001's Note - yeah I am not looking forward to rewatching our match.}

04 May 2026 10:01:54
We're already there. Ed I have the same concern re Frimpong but I think we can't judge him until a new manager comes in. He's got pace to burn but that is nit being utilised. Same with Kerkez

04 May 2026 13:27:42
Oh, Drac, those two bozos are on the clock as well, mate. I'm sacking all of them and cleaning house completely, had I been in a position to rule on this.

04 May 2026 06:13:32
I started writing a thread about changes we need next summer. And the post was so long that I became depressed and cleared it all.
Too much has to change and well with good probability I can see next season being dross as well whether the manager changes or not. Does not mean we stick with slot and delay the inevitable but it seems that's what the bosses are thinking.


We need a CM DM RB CB RW and as it stands a GK (all first team) this window.
We can sell Macca Gravy Frimpong Konate (free) Gackpo and probs Vvd and start fresh with all old guard gone.
Well apart from Szobo I don't think there is any other player that deserves to wear the shirt at the moment.

04 May 2026 06:35:39
I think we need a rw and another forward. A dm and a rb.
I don't think we necessarily need a gk. I would personally keep Ali and bleed through Jaros, selling Marma.
I would then bring in a new fitness coach and get rid of Slot for either Alonso or Iraoni.

04 May 2026 06:58:30
Left wing, right wing, right back, midfielder and of course a new manager for me is the priority.
Then a goalie if Ali leaves, maybe another striker because Ekitike is out so long. Then replace anyone else who leaves.
Wouldn't say it was a massive rebuild.

04 May 2026 07:02:19
Ali might want to leave, and there will be not much we can do if he decides to leave.
Also, Mama is not good, so we def need a keeper unless Woodman is considered good enough.
And we def need a CB and throw Konate for free. Even if we keep VVD and Konate, we need a CB. We are absolutely dire defensively.

04 May 2026 07:27:33
RB, CH, DM, CM, and pacey, hardworking forwards needed.

But, all pointless and will change nothing unless the manager and his staff are replaced with someone who is competent, committed and gets the players fit and playing with pace and intensity.

Slot out.

04 May 2026 07:30:20
Cafu, we have 1 new and 1 nearly new cbs, but a Gomez replacement, someone who can cover multiple positions, is needed.

04 May 2026 08:03:54
If you have a manager who knows how to get the best out of his players' talents and knows how to condition the squad, then I don't think we have too many glaring holes.

I see right back as the biggest hole and replacing Salah.

Get the right manager in and there isn't that much that needs to be done.

{Ed001's Note - agreed Ron.}

04 May 2026 08:52:02
Seriously, what are we talking about here? If you had given any competent manager the players Slot was given, he would have done bits. We signed the best talent on the market in Wirtz and he is playing everywhere but the position he actually plays.



Therefore, what would buying all these players change if you are gonna keep the manager who can't get the best out of the already very good level of talent (individually) he already has on paper?

Once again, sack the manager first and go from there.

04 May 2026 09:33:30
Jury is still out on Wirtz, for me. Regardless of Slot, he hasn't done enough. Hoping for much more next season, whoever is in charge.

Isak is only one game away from an injury, and, as previously posted, we should never have bought Frimpong.

Been saying for months, I want a change of Head Coach, but I'm not convinced that will fix all of our problems.



Our recruitment last summer, which most of us were salivating over, now looks seriously questionable, which is obviously on Hughes. Another summer of change awaits.

04 May 2026 10:07:39
So the signings we were all "salivating over" are now suddenly cr*p? I'm no fan of Hughes but it is not the signings. The work ethic has disappeared. There is no pattern of play. I honestly don't know how we're supposed to score. We're tactically a mess. That can only come from the manager.

04 May 2026 10:28:35
I didn't say crap, Flidby. Wirtz hasn't shown enough, Isak hasn't shown anything, and I stick by my assessment of Frimpong. We shouldn't have bought him, he's a wing-back. We don't play with wing-backs.

04 May 2026 10:32:58
The players have to take some responsibility, but the blame is almost solely on Slot. He should set the standards the players need to meet, but he hasn't even done that. He doesn't even do his job most of the time. A change of Head Coach/Manager won't solve everything, but it would go a long way to setting things right.

04 May 2026 13:31:16
Indeed, Drac. I would never blame Slot for Macca throwing a dead leg at a ball my wife would clear all the way up to the oppo's corner flag.

That being said, the manager sets the tone for responsibility and accountability for players on the pitch.

If he can't be arsed to coach the team on a full time basis, then, like you said then, what that football are we even doing here?

03 May 2026 23:00:02
I don't know about the rest of you, guys, but I believe the most obvious solution, the clearest remedy to all of our ills this season, is to have another holiday for the players and staff. I can not see even the remotest issue with that. I mean, every other club, whether big or small, interrupts their training time and tactical work in order to get kitted out, go shopping, and take on modelling opportunities.



I for one see no issues. Bring on the constant breaks. I have no doubt Pep is doing it, right now, along with the City players even the day before a match. Can't just be us, right? Right?

04 May 2026 05:30:39
100% Mango.

These are highly paid individuals.
They can do some light work in their own time, if they really want to.

Besides, if they haven't mastered the art of giving a f*** by now, then when will they?

04 May 2026 06:12:45
Agree 100%!! I mean, they are professionals, highly paid, they can always sort themselves out before match day! This practice, tactics, intensity is not required at the highest level! After all, vacations, breaks, ads, modelling is what is the most important for a club to be successful.

04 May 2026 08:04:31
Send Slot on a 15 month holiday...

04 May 2026 08:54:02
"They can do some light work in their own time, if they really want to."

JLC, all while getting hundreds of pounds a week pay packet? Hey, easy work, if you can get it.

03 May 2026 22:27:23
For me no ifs or buts slot out take Frimpong and Isak with you. Frimpong garbage. What was we thinking letting Darwin go? At least he fought for the shirt. We used to have Sammy Lee “ master of the inch perfect pass”.

Now we have Wirtz “ master of the 3 foot too short pass”. Get your money back we’ve been bumped. It’s a shame Chiesa isn’t Dutch cos he would get a full game if he was.

04 May 2026 00:13:17
Frimpong doesn't really offer much at all, but for 35 mill, would argue could be a decent squad player.

Wirtz, on the other hand, offers absolutely nothing. Too scared to beat his man, always playing the simple pass. Honestly, if we could recoup what we paid for him, I'd be sending him to Bayern. We do not have the luxury of building a whole team around 1 player who so far hasn't shown anywhere near enough talent or desire to justify doing so. Worst player on the pitch for me today.

04 May 2026 01:03:47
Frimpong's strengths don't suit playing as a fullback in a Slot team. It can develop over time, which means he'd need to stay fit enough.

I'd rather he play fullback tho, even if it is as the inverted type that Slot prefers. Because the intent is that the movements with the winger would be dynamic, so he would get on the outside.

But, in terms of starting at fullback, I'd prefer that so he has space to run into as opposed to starting stationary with the ball out wide.

04 May 2026 14:25:22
You reckon we could get a refund? It has been less than 12 months in all fairness. I'll email the Consumer Rights Bureau.

04 May 2026 04:01:53
I'm a bit cautious to judge any of our players until we get a head coach/manager who is committed to the job.

04 May 2026 04:30:36
I'd rather play Robbo, Gomez or Jones at RB than Frimpong to be honest.

But, yeah, I'll reserve judgement till we have a different coach and settle team next season.

04 May 2026 05:30:47
Darwin 🤣🤣🤣.

April Fools was over a month ago now.

04 May 2026 06:11:57
Wirtz is so far from our biggest problem. It's so clear he's been one of our better players this season (albeit, that bar is low). Manager needs to go.

04 May 2026 06:21:48
What were we thinking letting Darwin go? Are you serious? The guy had no brain in his head, was offside 50% of the time and missed sitters for fun. He was a sort of loveable idiot but a terrible striker. You want Chiesa to get a full game? Why? So he can give the ball away and take the worst throw in ever taken, like yesterday? I get we are rubbish but this strange romantic idea that Darwin or Chiesa would make us better is silly. The only person who has left that would improve us is Jurgen, unfortunately, and he's not coming back. Selling Wirtz would be stupid as well, because then people on here would be asking for Wirtz back next season. You only have to see him for Germany to see what a player he is. I get he hasn't lived up to the hype or price tag but worst player on the pitch? Worse than Robbo? Who got caught at the back post for their goal? Virgil who was positionally all over the place? Konate whose idea of defending is pushing attackers in the back or grabbing them and hoping he gets away with it.

Macca who gave the ball away or mis-kicked a clearance for two of their goals? Gravenberch who did absolutely nothing defensively or going forward? Or Frimpong who fell over every time he got the ball? He was not worse than them. People are angry at Wirtz for not just winning games by himself as if a playmaker or number 10 doesn't need a system which actually makes sense or players to make runs for him. The midfield just all run forward into his space.
The ball takes too long to get to him, and by that time there is no space. I'd like to see him try to beat a man too and show some confidence, but every time we lose the ball we concede a chance because there is no midfield behind him and no shape.

04 May 2026 06:46:02
I get that fans are frustrated with the new players, but let's be honest, the entire team has been poor, with only a few shining.
Salah - his worst season for the club.
VVD - not up to usual high standards, with some poor displays.
Konate - many were calling for us to drive him to Madrid.
Gakpo - so poor at times, fans thinking he's got something on Slot.
Macca - really poor season, weak in midfield.
Grav - back to mediocre player before last season.
New players have struggled, but given how the rest of the team have gone it's not surprising, & given that most of the players' form & fitness have fallen off a cliff you'd have to say there's an issue.


Had only the new players not been good you'd say poor recruitment, when the usually reliable ones are equally poor there is something fundamentally wrong with either training, tactics, the manager, or everything.
I'll reserve judgement on new signings. If, as we hope, Slot goes & a new manager comes in.

{Ed078's Note - good post.

04 May 2026 09:02:12
@Scouse, Frimpong didn't even play RB yesterday, so not sure what that rant is about. What was worse was that he played him at RW, which he never was and cannot play, all while having actual wide players on the bench he could have started.

04 May 2026 09:02:39
@Brummy, You crashing out on Wirtz is just out of frustration, not out of what is actually happening. You have a manager who signed the best no. 10 on the market yet plays him everywhere but his actual no. 10 position. Wirtz has played as a touchline winger (both wings) and in the false 9, all positions he did not play for Leverkusen, nor for the German national team. Do you not see anything wrong with that? Or are you just crashing out to blow off steam, hence ignoring all rational reasoning?

You say he cannot beat his man.

What da football? Is Wirtz suddenly a winger/one v one demon like Rio, Chiesa or even Salah is? Man, if Wirtz is underperforming then maybe you should be crashing out at the guy who simply cannot get the best out of a single soul in the squad and plays him in every position but his own. You crashing out on Wirtz is just cringe and void of any rational and context.

04 May 2026 10:30:59
Nunez is just an example of the profile of player we have moved away from.

04 May 2026 11:24:29
@OliRed: Did I say Frimpong played rb? I said he was crap.

04 May 2026 13:32:39
My bad, Scouse.

04 May 2026 13:49:59
"People are angry at Wirtz for not just winning games by himself as if a playmaker or number 10 doesn't need a system which actually makes sense or players to make runs for him. The midfield just all run forward into his space.
The ball takes too long to get to him, and by that time there is no space.

I'd like to see him try to beat a man too and show some confidence, but every time we lose the ball we concede a chance because there is no midfield behind him and no shape."


Preach, preacher.

04 May 2026 14:02:14
I think good manager could get a lot out of Frimpong as a squad player. Frimpong needs his game simplified and direct. You don't leash a player like him or put too many thoughts in his head. Either go left and cross or go right and cross. If you have a shot, take it. Get back when you don't have the ball. I don't know what Slot is telling him to do but it's likely too many unnecessary instructions. Obviously I played much lower level but all the fast players I played with are better off with less instructions. Keep it simple and let them create havoc with their speed.

As for Isak, he just needs to get fit. And more supply by playing quicker. I do worry about the fitness side of things with him. I hope though.

The main issue with everything that I see is the ridiculous way we play. Possession based football is a buzz word that sounds better than saying you are a defensive side. It's the new park the bus. Parking a bus is more exciting to be honest. And Slot takes the absolute biscuit with the idea. It's painful to watch. Absolutely painful. I watch every game and honestly feel like I'm wasting my life away this season watching us play. Like Ed said, until he goes, judging players is pointless.

I hope Robbo is right and Iraola is coming. We sure as hell won't be unfit and boring under him.

03 May 2026 21:58:20
Not seen it mentioned by anyone else on here, maybe wrong, but how many goals have we conceded this season via deflections by our sh*thouse players turning their backs on opposition shots!

03 May 2026 22:36:44
Too many MM.

03 May 2026 23:03:31
70 plus.

04 May 2026 01:07:05
Not as many as the shots they've managed to block.

04 May 2026 12:48:28
Too many, as MM said. Also, the level of timidness and abject weakness shown in these situations is a disgrace.