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11 Jul 2024 13:17:45
Well, these comments from Van Dijk are a little disconcerting. It sounds like he is going to use the time off to evaluate his future, both at club level and international level. At 33, having won everything to win at club level, it would not be too surprising to see him want one final chapter elsewhere.
I'm not sure who could afford him, and I am unsure if he would opt to join a Saudi team for the money, or a European team for the competition and chance to win major honours. It would be one massive headache to replace him, though, as I think we all wanted a centre back signing even with Van Dijk at the club.
This feels like we might be in for a big transfer window, not by intention but due to circumstances. I hope we have a plan in place, talk about throwing Richard Hughes and the new leadership group into the fire.
Fingers crossed this gets sorted in such a way that all parties are satisfied, but more so Liverpool :P.
{Ed002's Note - Virgil van Dijk (CB) I am told that van Dijk's agents have said that they had approaches from both Real Madrid and Barcelona. Real Madrid see VvD as a low cost solution in terms of transfer fee but need to make space in the wage structure. Barcelona offer an option but will need to agree sales first. At this point in time it will be very general enquiries only and I doubt either club will move for him. There is however interest from Michael Emanalo on behalf of Al-Nassr. Liverpool need to make a decision about a new contract as a matter of urgency but I would expect him to stay.}
1.) 11 Jul 2024 14:39:17
He had just lost his, probably, last chance to win anything with Holland, on top of an emotionally draining season with us. I wouldn't take everything he said to heart.
2.) 11 Jul 2024 16:04:36
A bit premature to be hanging the flags at half mast.
3.) 11 Jul 2024 16:15:56
Get rid of him. In my opinion he's become very arrogant the past couple of years and basically up his own backside. He needs replacing sooner or or later, let's do it sooner.
4.) 11 Jul 2024 16:44:56
Are you serious? Last year he surprised us all and played and led like a skipper, trolls abound on this site.
5.) 11 Jul 2024 18:26:13
I love the guy. But could anyone really have a problem with him if he had the chance to join Real Madrid for a couple of years?
I respect the man and if he left I wouldn't have a problem with it.
6.) 11 Jul 2024 19:04:18
To be fair Patrick burgher he disappeared when we really needed him.
7.) 11 Jul 2024 19:12:38
Contract and age aside why do RM think he would be cheap? For the majority of last season he was level with Saliba as best CB in the league. Even at 32 and 1y left on contract I'd still expect £50M for him.
8.) 11 Jul 2024 19:48:47
Real or Barcelona on a free makes most sense for the player, and who could blame him. We've had the best of him-wish him and his family the very best, whatever they decide to do.
VVD, the greatest since Sami.
9.) 11 Jul 2024 20:39:49
He has a right to be arrogant, he’s earned it and he’s shown it.
When he leaves, he’ll justifiably be regarded as a legend.
He was a major part of the transition from good team to winners. Virgil and Becker.
{Ed025's Note - arrogance is never a good look Ron, confidence yes..
10.) 11 Jul 2024 21:07:22
If you can back it up Ed025, then there’s no issue.
Misplaced arrogance is the problem in my opinion.
Ronaldo is arrogant, but he can justify it so that’s ok with me.
{Ed025's Note - really Ron?, not for me mate im afraid, i played against some cricketers who were arrogant in my time and they had very few friends, maybe they loved themselves that much that they never needed anyone else but i cant stand them..
11.) 11 Jul 2024 17:43:34
Hi ed. today we have read news that liverpool was linked to Bremer of juventus. Is he a new center back list that liverpool looking up to besides hancko, pacho and lenny yoro?
Appreciate if you can share update on defender shortlist just like you have share previously about DM player.
Thanks ed and have a great day.
{Ed002's Note - Gleison Bremer (CB) Juventus do not want to sell and the player wishes to stay but the club need to raise funds which has led to his representatives testing the waters with Manchester United, Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea to see if there is interest. He may well emerge as a first choice target for Spurs and Manchester United but Chelsea has a preferred option, but could turn to him as the are struggling to sign their primamry targets. Will cost perhaps €80M with no buyout clause until next season.}
12.) 12 Jul 2024 05:58:49
For me vvd has been thee crucial player during the klopp era. Nothing happens without his signing imo, a colossus for us for many years. from 17/ 18 til his injury he best cb ever I seen anywhere and that not because he lfc player. he almost like 1 man defence at time, periods around then that gomez and matip played with him they looked like world class players, which with all due respect to them in hindsight they weren't, I think that Down to vvd playing alongside them.
Whenever we do have to replace vvd, which is coming 1 way r another, we will have some job to do.
13.) 12 Jul 2024 06:27:05
Here we go more nonsense. He was terrific last season a true leader. We need all the confidence we can get at the minute.
14.) 14 Jul 2024 21:01:07
Be better if VVD styed as we transition to Slot.
Also I’d have expected him to be re-evaluating his career this summer. Feels like a natural thing to do after a major tournament and at this stage of his career.
05 Jun 2022 23:32:01
So, Paul Joyce has reported that Bayern's initial offer for Sadio Mane is 21 million plus 4 million. No doubt they will come back with something closer to our valuations, which is apparently around 40 million. Ironically, I think the initial fee is what Liverpool paid for Thiago.
James Milner has signed a new 1 year contract, on significantly reduced terms. Klopp clearly values the man for his professionalism. Hopefully, he gets a good last year and then Hendo can take up the Milner role, i. e. Mr Reliable, gives his all and is a complete professional to our younger players.
Also, apparently Liverpool are moving to get Joe Gomez under a new contract, as he has two years left. Fingers crossed on this one, as I feel he could push for a starting place, just needs some lucky with injuries.
In terms of incoming, nothing yet. Would not be surprised if a signing comes suddenly and without much warning, i. e. Luis Diaz. Will be a very busy period, I reckon, both in and out of the club.
My best wishes to you Eds :P.
1.) 05 Jun 2022 23:48:46
Gomez could still be a quality CB in my view if his fitness issues are behind him, fingers crossed for the lad.
Hope the mane deal gets sorted asap so we get someone in quickly (can’t see it being Nunez)
As part of milners new deal I’ve heard he’s now got a set of double doors named after him.
2.) 05 Jun 2022 23:56:30
Missing out one of the key points with regards to an incoming.
Joyce confirmed the interest of Liverpool in Darwin Nunez and has said the club will look to sign him (except not for crazy money) .
Gonna be an interesting few weeks.
3.) 06 Jun 2022 04:39:05
Joe Gomez is a squad player now, he got passed over last year. When he got a run in the past, he was unlucky with injuries and was always good for 2 or 3 moments fans holding your breath. Klopp was hunting for replacement even before C.V., believe top choices were Diego Carlos and Pau Torres at that time, got too expensive, then we shifted to Upamecano, finally got Konate. If he's happy to be a squad player, happy to have him.
4.) 06 Jun 2022 06:56:27
I think Gomez will much more involved when/ if/ should Matip leave. This makes sense to me as even though Matip is good, he is starting to play second fiddle to Konate so I feel it would be better to keep a younger HG player than an older non HG player on likely date higher wages. Just my opinion though I trust whatever Klopp does.
5.) 06 Jun 2022 07:40:28
Given how well he stayed injury free last season and also had a good season. I think this would be the best window to make some money on Matip. He’s a good player and has served us well, but I think Van D, Konate and Gomez are enough to see us through a season.
His stock is as high as it will get so if we receive an offer we should consider it in my opinion.
6.) 06 Jun 2022 08:17:49
Just 15 months after a centre back injury crisis we should sell Matip for no particular reason?
Were no lessons learned from that period that devastated our season?
7.) 06 Jun 2022 08:36:52
Flash we now have Van Dijk, Konate, Gomez, Van Den Berg who can all play centre back still. Gomez didn’t get a sniff of first team football last season. If we need money for new players why keep a player who every season bar last season was constantly injured? He’s stayed virtually injury free this season and has played really well.
In my opinion this is the best time to cash in on him. He’s played really well this year and must have interest from somewhere from him.
8.) 06 Jun 2022 08:41:19
Joe will also fill in at RB when needed.
9.) 06 Jun 2022 09:45:39
Matip going nowhere.
10.) 06 Jun 2022 10:03:22
Sad to see Joe go, but given that someone out there will overpay for an English player, then if he's going to remain 4th choice, maybe time to cash in now.
11.) 06 Jun 2022 10:12:18
I genuinely can't believe people think getting rid of matip for a few pound is a good idea.?
12.) 06 Jun 2022 10:51:14
If I had to choose over Matip and Gomez. It has to be Gomez every day. He’s younger, HG and I think can become a better centre back than Matip. I’d say Matip is likely on more than Gomez also.
If any are to leave it has to be Matip for me. Don’t get me wrong I like the guy and he’s gave his all when played, but he’s older and more than likely last time to bring in some decent money for him.
13.) 06 Jun 2022 12:00:47
Doesn’t matter what we think there is a reason Matip gets in ahead of Gomez. If decent offer comes in Gomez will go .
14.) 06 Jun 2022 17:47:44
I've got this crazy notion that as it's been proven we need 4 good centre backs to cover all eventualities and we currently have 4 excellent centre backs that Klopp is liable to keep them all (provided they want to stay and fight for their place) . Call me radical!
I can imagine getting rid of one and getting a serious injury to one of the others early on in the season, many of the same voices clamouring to sell one for no good reason just now would be the same ones screaming for a spare centre half and demanding an inquest on how we've only got 3 centre backs left.
29 May 2022 18:19:50
So, reports coming out that Sadio Mane intends to leave Liverpool. He has even informed Klopp and his teammates that he wants to leave.
A lot to digest right now. But, honestly, when it comes to Mane, all I can say is thank you. He has handled himself with professionalism throughout and deserves the chance to ply his trade elsewhere, as long as we get the valuation we believe we are earned, of course.
He has been made to change positions numerous times, from RW to LW (When Salah joined) to LW to ST (When Diaz joined) and has not complained once. He has put in incredible effort on the pitch every time he plays, even when he is not performing well or scoring regularly. His commitment can not be put into question.
When the rumours came out about Mane, he did not rock the boat before a big final and was simply respectful of all parties. He has handled himself well throghout his time at Liverpool and such behaviour should be applauded at a time when players believe themselves above the club (I.e. Mbappe, etc) and act accordingly.
I will miss Mane greatly, but he has earned the right to move. Best wishes to the guy, he is a Liverpool legend and was the starting point for Klopp's period of improvement. All the best and I wish nothing for success in Germany or elsewhere.
1.) 29 May 2022 18:52:09
Great player very sad to see him go, if I could replace him with any player it would be Son from spurs not going to happen but would love to see Son playing for us .
2.) 29 May 2022 19:19:45
Good post man, I’m not in the best of moods anyway today and suspected this news was coming
He deserves respect for what he did for the club and I wish him well, he will be missed.
Gnabry is coming in the opposite direction.
3.) 29 May 2022 19:20:06
Agreed. Has been a great servant and even has the courtesy to leave when his powers are waning! What a gent! Lol seriously though I wish nothing but this man all the best. A hell of a performer. Question is who do we bring in to replace him? Given Mane us over the years primarily been on the left and we now have Diaz there I would be going for an out and out number 9 striker. Not sure who that is though.
4.) 29 May 2022 19:32:42
Son is going nowhere since Conte has 150M to spend, and is a fantastic manager.
LFC need to spend so wisely, and i am not sure we have time to develop another player slowly -we need someone who will hit the ground running, and score goals galore. Our lack of goals over the 3 finals and the fact that Conte and Carlo's tactics can stifle us so well means it might be time to adapt the tactics and get someone who will give us more options.
We needed Div last night.
5.) 29 May 2022 20:44:25
Have faith in Klopp and his staff. They came up with Mane and Salah in the first place, trust in them to replace those players as and when it is required.
It just probably won't be the flavour of the month names you see being touted round at extortionate prices.
6.) 30 May 2022 00:19:28
Exactly Flash. Keep the faith in recruitment team. Before Mane signed his record was 2 in 22 for Metz, 31 in 63 for RBS and 21 in 67 for Southampton. Good return but even for Saints, 8 of those 21 came in 3 matches. Lots of big forward names being shouted recently (Kane, Dembele, Son, Gnabry. ) but our greatest successes of recent times have been "Big potential = low price" That's our market which means the chat probably won't even include most of our targets.
Whatever happened to £40m rated Sarr?
7.) 30 May 2022 00:33:57
Flash, if the news about them contacting Dembele is true then they’ve lost my faith in them,
8.) 30 May 2022 02:00:16
I would break the bank for Son. He's world class. We did similar for both Allison and Virgil, and have to do it again.
31 Jan 2022 13:12:42
It looks like we won't be signing Fabio Carvalho, after all.
Fulham have apparently not responded to our 5 million offer, with a loan back to Fulham included for the rest of the season. A shame because the lad looks like a quality player with a bright future.
Borussia Dortmund looking at him for the summer too. That seems to be a great destination for young English footballers. We might miss out on this lad. But, I am still pleased with our business this month.
January is a tricky window, bringing in someone with the qualities of Luis Diaz is a great move for us. Maybe a few more out goings, Nat Phillips to Bournemouth, for instance, and we should be good to go till the summer.
1.) 31 Jan 2022 13:42:26
Nobody knows Mango just like with the Diaz move, let's wait till the windows shut buddy ;)
2.) 31 Jan 2022 13:55:27
if there not interested in us loaning him back, double the bid and get him now.
3.) 31 Jan 2022 13:56:05
I swear some just guess on these things, it's 50/ 50. He either will or won't. But if they strike lucky they claim their ITK.
So as its all these journos do my guess is origi to West ham by tomorrow morning.
4.) 31 Jan 2022 15:37:47
can see this going to the wire maybe £9 million and add on fulham want £15 million.
5.) 31 Jan 2022 15:08:16
Ed002 what would be Fulham's benefit to losing him to an international club for free? Would they get any sort of compensation? Just in my mind it makes more sense to take a fee now with a loan back agreement vs. losing him for nothing to a club on the continent? (Have I missed something though? )
{Ed002's Note - If he stays and helps them get promoted is a significant benefit.}
6.) 31 Jan 2022 18:33:10
Sorry Ed002 I meant letting him leave on a free in the summer vs. us buying and loaning him back now but appreciate the answer none the less. Hope you're having a good day.
{Ed002's Note - If that were the case then the advantage is for Liverpool in that they would get the jump on others and Fulham would get funds. The disadvantage for Liverpool is that they are spending money on a player who they will only get when he is available as a Free Agent.}
30 Jan 2022 14:39:48
Word going around that we are in negotiations to sign Fabio Carvalho for around 12 million from Fulham.
Julian Ward doing some serious work. Fair play.
1.) 30 Jan 2022 15:08:30
Impressive work. Luiz looks a very good footballer and Carvallho is one of the brightest English prospects out there. A quiet window (which is no bad thing) has suddenly turned into what is going to be a very very good one. And we’ve avoided both Traore and Dembele!
2.) 30 Jan 2022 15:13:37
It won’t be anything like £12m mate. He is out of contact in the summer.
3.) 30 Jan 2022 15:16:00
Would FSG commit to 12 mill knowing he’s free in 5 months time. Not sure many Club owners would. Especially with us being hit so hard with the C.V. and skint.
4.) 30 Jan 2022 15:18:12
Fulham only value u him at 5m I read that.
5.) 30 Jan 2022 15:24:16
5 million sounds a lot better, in terms of our investment.
When I heard people quoting 12, it did seem a little on the excessive side. But, just thought I would relay what I had heard :D.
6.) 30 Jan 2022 15:31:15
Ed002 might be the one to say am wrong but he is not a free transfer in the summer and it would go to a tribunal so we would be paying over £5m in my thoughts for him. I think it was about £4.5m for Elliott with a 20% sell on so if we sever sell him I bet Fulham would get more than £12m. So if Fulham get anywhere between £5 and £12m tribunal they are much better of keeping him so I definitely don’t think they would take £5m when the are in a promotion fight.
7.) 30 Jan 2022 15:45:05
Jesus it must be a good window if Viktors happy! ðŸ˜Doubt it'll be twelve but it'll probably be more than five sure they'd get at least that in a tribunal.
8.) 30 Jan 2022 15:26:13
Would he be free to us? Does it not go to a tribunal to set a fee if one can't be agreed?
{Ed002's Note - A training fee has to be paid.}
9.) 30 Jan 2022 16:15:39
Heard its a 5mill offer. probably some add on too. Hope gets over the line. He is a top top talent just like harvey.
10.) 30 Jan 2022 16:15:49
Would be strange, we don't really need him right now?
Fulham are pushing for promotion so won't want him to leave for cheap.
And he wouldn't be in the first team straight away would he? Feels like it'd make much more sense to pick him up in the summer. Unless maybe both Div and Mina are off?
11.) 30 Jan 2022 16:29:36
The smart thing to do would be to sign him up this window and remain at Fulham until the summer
With Milner leaving and potentially 1/ 2 more from midfield it does make sense especially him being English aswell
I know the Ed’s have previously mentioned we need to watch the hg quota in the past.
12.) 30 Jan 2022 16:29:46
Offer is £5m. If he wants to join us it will happen. Only question is if joins now or summer.
13.) 30 Jan 2022 16:57:08
Loan back to Fulham and comes to us in the summer. Will be a cracking bit of business and a great January window.
14.) 30 Jan 2022 18:41:45
@VVVV “A quiet window (which is no bad thing) …. â€
That wasn’t what a considerable number of people seemed to be saying leading up the the transfer window and in the window itself up to about midday last Thursday. Just saying 😉.
15.) 30 Jan 2022 18:51:59
With Fabio looking like a done deal and Luiz in the bag just Bissouma tomorrow and it will be a fair window.
16.) 30 Jan 2022 19:16:59
If the choice was a quiet window in January or signing Traore or Dembele WDW, I know what I’d prefer!
17.) 30 Jan 2022 20:18:06
We haven’t tried to sign either player VVVV. Just be happy with who we have signed.
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07 Jul 2024 19:49:07
This is not a knock against Klopp at all, as I recognise he had his own style and means of delegating certain responsibilities in training. But, I have to say watching some of the Inside Training Videos under Slot on LFCTV has been very revealing and in equal parts reassuring.
Having watched highlights of the last two sessions, Slot has been involved throughout the sessions, discussing sequencing, body shape upon receiving, and providing really good information throughout. He is almost an active participant without getting in the way.
Maybe it is just me looking for positives, but I have to say he has impressed me since his arrival. His demeanor, how he handled the press, his involvement in training, I have a good feeling about him.
Obviously Ljinders took the reigns during training under Klopp, and he was in his right a good coach, but there is something about seeing the boss getting stuck in, dictating passages of play, and small technical points to help refine the player's game as individuals as well as complimenting this towards a greater team dynamic.
I was wondering, have any of the EDs heard about Slot and his approach to training, etc? I'll be honest I had heard little of Slot before he became our manager, but know your reach and knowledge is a lot more extensive.
1.) 08 Jul 2024 08:56:58
Have you also done some work for Bielsa, Mango? ?
I'd sooner see what we do where it really matters.
2.) 08 Jul 2024 09:14:27
We should have appointed Slot on Easter Sunday as he sounds like the second coming.
3.) 08 Jul 2024 12:19:35
I really don't think it matters that much. Whether he delegates or does the bulk of the sessions himself, at the end of the day the responsibility still sits with the fullah at the head of the table.
4.) 08 Jul 2024 14:23:50
Indeed, Faith. Makes no difference to me personally cos it is still early and not sure what one can take out of edited clips from the first few sessions.
Also, Klopp did not just start delegating to Lijnders the moment he arrived. That only started 4/ 5 years or so after so a bit too early to judge, @Mango.
02 Jul 2024 19:25:29
I don't want to be accused of MOTD fever, or going above board, but I think Cody Gakpo could cure world hunger with one strike of his foot.
(That sounded a lot more violent then I intended :P)
{Ed025's Note - he played well there MANGO, mind you he was only up against a load of Beetroot and Turnip farmers, when he comes up against anyone decent he looks like Mr Bean mate..
1.) 02 Jul 2024 19:39:57
In fairness he has scored against Everton Ed025, so there might be something in that bit about turnip farmers ;)
{Ed025's Note - i like that VV..
2.) 02 Jul 2024 20:17:01
Hasn’t Gakpo not scored 4 goals so far this Euro campaign and played against the same calibre of players as the likes of Saka, Palmer, Foden and they’re all part of the England golden generation? I think credit should be given where it is due, I have watched all his matches and he has been their star player by far playing in his favoured position. not saying that he is curing world hunger or whatever that reference was supposed to mean but the lad is doing well and I don’t think we should be knocking our own when they are clearly doing well.
3.) 02 Jul 2024 20:19:19
He’s the best left winger at club klopp admitted to playing him out of position.
4.) 02 Jul 2024 20:28:59
Gakpo is probably giving the best account of himself of the Liverpool players at the comp. He’s playing well.
5.) 02 Jul 2024 21:12:00
ViktorVaughn, I was about to say the exact same thing, lol. Gakpo is killing it at the Euros right now. Like someone said, the experiment in playing players outta position needs to end. It was fun when it worked BUT that ship has sailed.
Gakpo is a left forward. Plays left forward his whole career and should play there now and if he and Diaz need to split playing time or fight for the shirt and if Diaz wants to leave then, so be it.
Enuff of playing a left winger (Gakpo) in the false 9 while playing an actual CF (Darwin) at left wing. Or playing a no. 10 (Macca) in DM. Sorry, ain't having that NO MORE. Hope Slot follows this path.
6.) 02 Jul 2024 22:23:28
He’s a good player Ed025. Mr Bean is ridiculous. Sometimes you do go too far.
{Ed025's Note - just chewing the fat Tom, chill out mate its only a bit of banter..
7.) 02 Jul 2024 22:26:29
Oli, I've passed on your serious grievances to club management and they've agreed to give you a time slot next week with Slot, so that you can discuss this unacceptable situation personally with him. I'm sure Slot will give you his serious attention and consider your concerns with the seriousness they deserve. But please don't get so angry. Club management gets upset when they anger you so. ???.
8.) 02 Jul 2024 23:10:46
Versatility is great. I'm having it!
9.) 02 Jul 2024 23:53:42
I thought possibly lettuce or rhubarb, every one is different I suppose.
10.) 03 Jul 2024 06:45:32
The thing is though that gakpo *can* play false 9 capably, he has the intelligence, the vision and the strength for it, and Nunez has played very well on the left for both benfica and Liverpool on occasion, it just depends on what the setup of the overall team is when they are asked to do so, Nunez needs space ahead of him to attack whether he is on the left or through the centre. Certainly their ‘best’ positions are as you say but I don’t think playing them in their secondary positions guarantees bad results.
11.) 03 Jul 2024 08:36:02
All of a sudden Gakpo is playing superbly and is scoring regularly. The other day Anthony Gordon was miles better than him and we needed to get rid of one for the other.
12.) 03 Jul 2024 09:24:29
There are lots of Messiahs @Flash ?.
13.) 03 Jul 2024 11:04:28
ArAy1969, that was hilarious, man.
@PatrikBurgher, sorry but Darwin never played left wing for Benfica. And I didn't say that. It was a Benfica fan who talked about Darwin's time with them on youtube and at no point did he mention that Darwin played on the left wing. What he did say was that Darwin would often drift to the left and cut in to shoot and score, the same thing he does at LFC and Uruguay, by the way. I have no issue with this part BUT the whole left wing stuff for Darwin just cos he "can" play there while having an actual left winger like Gakpo or Diaz in the team? Nah, miss me with that, please.
Also cos a player "can" play a position does not mean he is effective there or that that is his best position. I do not think Gakpo played the false 9 position as he plays out wide cos it never worked consistently. Now when he got moved out left near the end of last season, we saw how good he was and that has transferred to the Euros. Also, Darwin and Gakpo have shown they can play together as well. In the end, play the players in the positions where they are most productive and comes more natural to them. Just stating my opinion.
14.) 03 Jul 2024 13:05:59
What I would reiterate is Gakpo and Diaz both played together at the back end of the season and they did so very well. They were interchanging between the LW and CF positions and it made it very hard to pick either of them up. I think Gakpo and Gordon could do something similar, but also we don't know if Slot will want to play that way. As I said to Ed025 the other day, I don't think Gordon is an upgrade on Gakpo, but I think they're pretty similar level currently. Gordon also played RW in a few games when he started with Barnes (LW) and Isak (CF) . He even played CF when Isak and Wilson were both injured. You can't really pigeon hole him as a LW option only and therefore it's not really about whether he is better than Gakpo or not as they can easily play together.
If Slot and Hughes both given the Gordon interest a greenlight (which they clearly have as Ed002 confirms we have enquired about him) then they must have a plan how to use him in our team. I just hope Newcastle don't pull our pants down with their £100m valuation. The £50m plus Kelleher reports doing the rounds seem more reasonable to me.
{Ed002's Note - So Liverpool on Red Alert for the Green Light.}
15.) 03 Jul 2024 13:12:51
Actually I watched darwin play a fair bit for Benfica because a good friend is a Benfica fan, and I think using your own eyes is probably more favorable than going by a second hand account. Maybe Nunez can't be typified as a 'left winger' per se, but he often STARTED out wide on attacking plays high up the field to isolate a fullback, running at them in space to cut inside to shoot or getting to the byline to cut it back to somebody else, technically speaking this isn't entirely different from how wide forwards operate in Klopp's Liverpool system? In video footage you can see Darwin, whether by instruction or through his own preference, taking up a starting position very wide on the left on quite a lot of his best moments for Benfica. So maybe you can't call him a 'left winger', but he can certainly play as- and also enjoys playing- as a wide forward running at fullbacks into space.
16.) 03 Jul 2024 13:53:20
Maybe the Green Lantern Ed002? Although I think he’s busy with Wrexham.
17.) 03 Jul 2024 16:55:27
About 3 or 4 months ago, it was mentioned on here, several time, that Gakpo was useless and the worst buy and that we should sell him.
Now we all love him and he's our future.
Football fans can be real fickle!
18.) 03 Jul 2024 17:16:58
Patrick, you are talking tactics and movement depending on the way the game is panning out in real time. This is not what I am talking about and I don't need to watch Darwin at Benfica to realise this. What I am talking about is that Darwin is a CF and should not be playing on the left wing as a winger as he lacks the winger/ wide forward ability to play it.
Once again cos he occupies the position depending on the game on-going does not mean he is a left winger. That is the point of my posts. You saying he starts on the left by instruction or as a starting position does not suddenly make him a left winger by trade with all the abilities that come with that. Gakpo is and should play there full time. Such is also my point.
19.) 03 Jul 2024 18:40:53
Nunez never ever played left wing for Benfica.
Apart from
27/ 11/ 21 vs B Sad - Scored hat trick
12/ 12/ 21 vs Famalicao - scored hat trick
19/ 12/ 21 vs Maritimo - scored twice
21/ 1/ 22 vs Arouca - Scored 1
1/ 4/ 22 vs SC Braga - Scored 1.
But yeah apart from them games Oli is right he NEVER played left wing for Benfica.
20.) 04 Jul 2024 01:24:38
Lol, thanks for that JK hahaha.
10 May 2024 17:29:02
So, Julian Ward has returned to Liverpool?
He will oversee player development across FSG's football operations and strategies.
Maybe I am just catastrophizing, but it does feel like, now Klopp is gone, the old guard decision makers are steadily returning to the fold.
I feel like there is a lot more to this than we are seeing, or being told.
If so, maybe Ljinders can write another book about it? :P.
1.) 10 May 2024 17:53:53
Mango, my immediate thought was did Edwards and Ward leave because of Klopp? ?.
2.) 10 May 2024 18:03:12
I can’t remember which journalist reported it, but somebody said that one of the reasons Michael Edwards left was because of arguments with Klopp over retaining ageing players. Not sure how true that is, but if Ward is returning as well as Edwards as soon as Klopp is leaving, it doesn’t feel like a coincidence.
3.) 10 May 2024 18:12:55
Pep ate the crayons after he did the last book, Mango.
4.) 10 May 2024 18:28:21
Pedro Marques Has also joined.
5.) 10 May 2024 18:29:22
Woolback, it doesn't feel like a coicidence at all. However, what do we know? It well could be just consipracy theory. But I must admit that employees who leave an employer usually join another organization before re-joining the previous employer, if ever. That's what I have seen.
6.) 10 May 2024 20:20:29
Liverpool’s new structure that as CEO Michael Edwards has put together. Only Will Spearman, David Fallows and Barry Hunter from the list below were already at the club. Safe to say Edwards has been busy.
Coach: Arne Slot
Sporting Director: Richard Hughes
Assistant Sporting Director: David Woodfine
Technical Director: Julian Ward
Director Of Football Director: Pedro Marques
Director of Research: Will Spearman
Head of Recruitment: David Fallows
Chief Scout: Barry Hunter
Scout: Mark Burchill
Scout Co-ordinator: Craig McKee.
7.) 10 May 2024 20:41:35
I can’t believe some people say that football isn’t a game anymore eh?
When they all get to work do we think they line up in a 4 - 2 - 3 -1 or 4 - 3 -3 formation? I wonder if we use inverted scouts or do we look to then to get out far and wide?
8.) 10 May 2024 20:44:32
We have a director to direct the director of football?
I’d love that job!
9.) 10 May 2024 20:42:31
* Director Of Football Development: Pedro Marques.
10.) 10 May 2024 20:59:48
I remember that woolback. I reckon we know very little about the last few years and the real reasons he’s leaving.
11.) 10 May 2024 21:27:44
What does a technical director do?
12.) 10 May 2024 21:38:11
There was a time I genuinely believed the technical director at a Football club was the one tasked with fixing the projector when it was broken.
I have learned since then that they do not use projectors and am, therefore, out of touch. :P.
13.) 10 May 2024 21:54:57
@Ron Keague. James Pearce who was the first to break the news has said the following regarding Wards’s Technical Director Role.
Ward will oversee player development across FSG's football operations. Responsibilities include oversight of LFC academy, loan department, group wide elite player development strategies and establishment of FSG’s new football innovation department.
Ward will also preside over the management of football operations at any club added to FSG stable. Marques, who will report to Ward, is regarded as an expert in player development, career pathways, coaching methodologies and performance analysis.
14.) 10 May 2024 22:15:14
I like the idea of director of football development. Something FIFA and UEFA and the FA should look at rather than fixating on revenue generation.
15.) 10 May 2024 22:26:55
Thanks Alonso,
So if that’s his remit, what about “Director of football development”?
16.) 10 May 2024 22:53:43
Klopp hasn't left and Lijnders didn't write a book.
Why do people think that we don't know the real reason for Klopp leaving? I might be being naive but I believe him and why he wants or needs to leave.
17.) 11 May 2024 08:09:31
@Rigsby, he’s tired and he’s had enough. Too simple for some contributors though.
18.) 11 May 2024 09:35:04
Alonso, "establishment of FSG’s new football innovation department" is the one that sounds really interesting to me.
19.) 11 May 2024 09:51:19
WDW loving the inverted coaches. Let’s hope they don’t bump in to each other in the car park!
20.) 11 May 2024 10:08:18
ArAy1969 -Sneaking a 12th player onto the pitch when nobody’s looking is my guess.
21.) 11 May 2024 11:19:49
Does it need to be a conspiracy?
Could it just be that Edward’s role was too narrow previously? Perhaps Klopp’s influence had more reach?
Now FSG are adjusting the model and it fits Edwards and others.
22.) 11 May 2024 13:16:35
You won't believe it but I've seen it really happen many years ago. It was some international game somewhere abroad. The referee signalled the change, the new player came on, the other player refused to come off and the ref signalled the game onwards, not realizing that 12 players were on. Later on, the game was stopped and the extra player sent off.
23.) 11 May 2024 22:02:54
It's all very fishy.
Klopp has only been here nine years and and needs a change. Nine years, some of which we were having to keep going at full tilt until the very last games of the season. So when Klopp says he needs a break from it all and we bring in a new management team, it just doesn't add up.
29 Apr 2024 23:49:41
Maybe I am playing devil's advocate, but I honestly think the incident between Salah and Klopp, is more down to Klopp then Salah.
Now, don't get it twisted I think Klopp benching Salah was the right decision, as his form has not warranted a start. Whether down to rotation, medical advice or sending a message, Klopp was well in the right, in my opinion.
However, if you watch the full replay of the incident, it does tell a story of its own.
At the beginning, Salah is getting ready to come on, he is focused on nothing more than the match. Then, Klopp walks over to him, leans in and says something to Salah. That is trigger for the arguement to take place. If not for Klopp approaching him, and having a quiet word, nothing would have happened.
Now, I don't know what he said, I have heard rumours that Klopp told Salah that if he isn't ready, or willing, then get back on the bench, but can't verify that. The incident was also apparently born from Salah not accepting Klopp's hug and only shaking his hand, begrudgingly.
The Anfield Wrap and other sources have suggested this is what happened, but we will never know until Klopp or Salah reveal it. If Klopp did say that, though, then I have to question what he was thinking.
I know Salah, through his agent, etc, has tried to explore a means of getting a move to a Madrid, Barcelona, etc. However, when it comes to the pitch, Salah has never feigned injury or refused to attend training or matches for Liverpool. He has always wanted to play.
So for people to call him unprofessional, and discredit his entire tenure at Liverpool, I completely disagree with. Admittedly it is a very small percentage, and most have rightly questioned Salah in the situation without labelling him as such. But, those that do, give your head a wobble.
I do, however, agree with the belief that Salah needs to be sold at the end of the season. He has been incredible for us, and I appreciate everything he has done, but his value will depreciate the older he gets or he may feel being out of contract might make him an even more lucrative prospect to a PSG or Saudi club.
Plus, 350k a week, for a player with this level of doubts is a concern. Every poor match he has, that wage will be directed at him in response. That he is not fulfilling his end of the bargain, etc.
As a result, I believe we need to attempt another Coutinho. I. e. Sell our most lucrative asset and use the money to buy 2 first team ready players. Not rotational, not prospects, but genuine starters that can come in and immediately improve the first 11. For me, those positions are right wing and centre back.
1.) 30 Apr 2024 03:30:43
unless Klopp insulted him personally, his family or his dog, there is no reason for that kind of response from Mo.
2.) 30 Apr 2024 08:02:24
Maybe Klopp said "Mo, go and win us the game. Get your finger out of your arse, start playing like you know you can and earn your wages (and there is plenty of it) .
3.) 30 Apr 2024 07:30:01
It looked to me like Klopp went to give Salah a handshake all he does to all the players before going on the pitch and Salah blanked Klopp then eventually Salah just give Klopp the weakest high-five you’ve ever seen and at this point Klopp says something to Salah and it all kicks off. There are other videos out there from behind the dugout that show other footage.
4.) 30 Apr 2024 07:42:31
Whilst I agree that now is probably the right time to move Salah on, diminishing returns and high earner. I don’t understand how anyone, or on what basis people can claim he has attitude issues…. in 6 years the weekend was his first public incident. He struck me as a frustrated figure which you would expect given his and the teams lack of form.
I also think it is a little early to say he is washed, before AFCON he was still our best attacker creating lots for others and scoring himself too.
I think if a decent offer comes in we should accept it but likewise if he sees out his contract, I will enjoy seeing him in a red a shirt for another season and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was our top scorer next year too
It would be interesting to know what the Ed’s would do with our frontline?
5.) 30 Apr 2024 08:44:55
If an offer comes in we could accept it and then put it to Salah.
Or are we into people trafficking now? ?
If he wants to go, let him go and that applies to any player.
He's been out of form for a couple of months but he's still top scorer this season and you don't let a minor disagreement like the one Saturday be the catalyst for him going.
He seems to be a model professional, has been top scorer every year since he joined us and the type of player you want to keep.
6.) 30 Apr 2024 09:06:41
Maybe Klopp said " did you regret turning down the Saudi offer to follow "my project"
7.) 30 Apr 2024 09:10:22
The entire thing is probably a storm in a teacup.
8.) 30 Apr 2024 09:33:17
Knowing how salah gets in a strop every time he is subbed out of a game, i think Mo was probably in a strop from the time the team sheet was handed out. Klopp probably went over to him say something along the lines of "take that anger out onto the pitch" and it riled him. Either way, didn't look good and has only compounded problems from outside looking in.
9.) 30 Apr 2024 10:15:51
He really isn't the type of player you want to keep. Not if clubs are offering nearly 80 million for a player who is on the decline.
We have been way too slow over the years at moving players on when they're passed their peak, and it's cost us. Take the money and reinvest it.
10.) 30 Apr 2024 10:19:24
Just as for Jurgen Klopp, Mohammed Salah's legacy at Liverpool Club is already sealed. He (like Klopp) will always be thought of very fondly (to put it mildly) and certainly as part of the club's greats. Both of them are part of the "combination of factors" that pulled the club out from the relative darkness of the previous two decades. So that's that.
But I didn't like his behaviour during that incident (and I posted earlier about it) . I don't care if you are Pele reborn or Diego Freaking Maradona, you don't reach for your Manager and have to be pushed back and be restrained by your team mate. If you want to leave, that's fine. Do it with class and elegance. And it doesn't matter what the Boss says to you, you listen and swallow it because he's the Boss and he's the reason you are standing there.
11.) 30 Apr 2024 10:55:29
Well if it was over the lack of a hug it certainly is a storm in a teacup.
12.) 30 Apr 2024 11:08:12
Did Salah reach for Klopp and have to be pushed back? No.
His initial gestures were arms open and hands up. To me it showed Salah was confused by Klopp. Klopp carries on and then there is a bit of finger pointing from Salah.
Unless we find out what was said and it turns out to be unacceptable there is nothing in the incident to worry about.
{Ed001's Note - I am with you on this Rigsby.}
13.) 30 Apr 2024 11:31:18
LFC MANGO personally, I think Klopp benched Salah to send a message to the players not pulling their weight of late who also got benched. Also, I think this is another reason regarding Salah specifically that he kept Elliott on for that long. Seriously, the kid was having a pretty terrible time of it and should have been hooked WAY before the 77th minute.
And when Salah (already upset for being benched) ignored Klopp's hug/ handshake, then tempers flared. Granted, Salah should not show up his manager in public that way BUT again, emotions are high right now and so is the level of frustration so in the end, both guys blew their tops. We had this with Mane several times as well where one time, he ignored Klopp's handshake after we battered Utd 4-2 at OT in 20/ 21. Nothing but handbags, me thinks.
14.) 01 May 2024 08:49:11
First offense from Salah in my opinion.
Definitely unprofessional.
Regarding his attitude, he’s less committed on the field in the last few months but could be form related or could be ANYTHING in his life. So that’s not a big deal.
But whatever your manager says to you, do your talking on the pitch or behind closed doors - that’s professional.
23 Mar 2024 15:56:08
Been enjoying the legends match, so far.
Nice to know the Liverpool injury curse is not specific to our first team stars, but our legends as well. Because that needed to be a thing. And Aurelio too, who had nothing but bad luck with injury, great player though.
Always a good laugh these matches, to see your legends who you idolized and tried to replicate become far older men with big bellies and co-ordination I attribute to toddlers. Age is rarely kind. Although, seeing Skrtel trying to play out from the back, while racing towards a terrified Dudek, had me rolling.
On a genuinely heartwarming note, seeing the combinations between Gerrard and Torres, allowing me to reminisce about my own childhood and how big a part both were, was an unexpected but welcome period. And then Maxi doing his utmost to score every time he touches the ball, when both are in better positions bringing me back down to earth :P
Although, the highlight of all highlights had to be Jay Spearing getting absolutely cooked by a 70 year old man, I couldn't breath man. I swear he's still on our books too.
1.) 23 Mar 2024 16:43:37
I always find that in the legends games the more technically gifted players stand out, now that age has levelled the playing field to a degree in terms of fitness and pace.
Fowler, despite his "dimensions", has played well in quite a lot of legends games. Hyypia is standing out today.
2.) 23 Mar 2024 21:21:00
Apparently Daniel Agger hasn't played football since retiring, but didn't look rusty at all. If only he was able to stay fit when he was playing!
3.) 24 Mar 2024 19:23:25
Agger's body let him down badly, can't say I'm surprised he doesn't play outside of stuff like the legends games. I'm fairly sure he said that by the end of his time here he had to eat loads of painkillers to get through games, even when he was "fit".
He just wouldn't be able to take playing football regularly at any level.
08 Jul 2024 22:04:44
Recruitment? Chelsea? Now I have heard it all :P
Also, the entire world dreams of a team of Gallagher's. That's what I have heard at least.
03 Jul 2024 21:06:13
Gotta say, I love these old school type of rumours.
26 Jun 2024 02:00:16
Yes, fair to say the Elden Ring DLC is kicking my ass, in a major way.
Took me 2 hours to defeat Rellana Twin Moon Knight, I celebrate, leave the area and a massive Fire Giant thing greets me off in the distance, fair to say I sprinted back inside to a place of safety without a moments delay.
Having a blast though.
25 Jun 2024 19:52:34
It does amuse me that on a rumors site, we have one side coddling 'their players', protecting them from the devastation and hardships of the world. And, on the other, we have people ready to bear arms and assault the players at a seconds notice, should they ever meet.
I honestly see no issue with criticizing players, or defending them, but a lot of posters take this so darn personally. Like, relax, it's a rumors site, not the gates to heaven.
Like, what did you expect on a rumors site, open for public usage? For everyone to conform to your opinion, for it to be the universal truth, and that anyone that says otherwise is a heathen.
Then again I'm the guy that smashed my PS5 controller against a wall yesterday, when I died to a boss for the 30th time. So, who am I to judge?
{Ed025's Note - I think you are spot on MANGO. And a bit of a hooligan it seems ?..
09 May 2024 14:50:10
Varela would make perfect sense, in my opinion. As we need someone to rotate with Endo, if we play our traditional 4-3-3. Or, if we do play in a double pivot, a more defensive minded option than our current options.
However, I feel like in midfield we are already over stocked. Signings Gomes or Gray wouldn't make much sense. We have Mac Allister, Jones, Elliott, Szobo, Grav, possibly Trent, Clark, Bajcetic. All of which are fighting for two positions.
Now, Trent could stay at right back. Szobo move to a wing. But even then, the options are plentiful. I would rather we focus on key positions in need of strengthening, centre back being the key one. Maybe a left back, too, to provide competition / rotation with Robbo, as Tsimikas doesn't feel like a viable option any more.
Then, we would have to deal with any outgoings, there are already questions around Salah, Nunez and Diaz. I would not be surprised if at least one leaves, meaning we would have to sign a replacement, and at quite a sum. Doak will likely get another chance, but he had a long injury lay off, and didn't really impress when he did play.
Will be interesting to see what happens, though. Could be quite a few moving parts, from coaching staff to playing staff. It won't be boring, at least.
13 Jul 2024 14:39:25
I think it was Luke Chambers that Leverkusen had interest in, I haven't heard anything since, though.
Owen Beck and Luke Chambers will likely get the majority of pre-season with Liverpool, so Slot can have a look at them. Then, suspect a loan for one or both. Although, if Slot likes what he sees, ala Van Den Berg, then anything is possible.
It also depends on Tsimikas, as I doubt we'll see any room for youngsters or new signings at left back if he is at the club. No point having 3 first team ready left backs, with Gomez available as cover too.
07 Jul 2024 19:30:20
Many on here and the live chat know my opinion on Thiago already, fair to say I am not one of his biggest fan, not by a long shot. To put it kindly, Thiago has always style over substance, for me.
He hardly ever played, spending far more time on the injury table than the pitch, contributed something like 4 assists over his entire time with Liverpool, and simply could not be relied upon when we really needed him. Notable that he has decided to retire now, rather than last year where he played a total of 10 minutes all season, and was happy collecting his 200k a week for zero work.
Personally, think he is is severely overrated and prospered from having better players and systems around him to accommodate what he was, a luxury player. One of Klopp's worst signings at Liverpool, I genuinely hold him up there, not close to Keita but in the top 3 to 5. Harsh, maybe, but I have no time or sympathy for the man.
07 Jun 2024 13:52:44
Yeah, I remember a few players mentioning that Bajcetic turns up to team meeting / tactical analysis late. Robbo and Gakpo have mentioned it most recently, which is not a great look for a youngster looking to force himself into the team. Has the potential to be a great player, but needs to recognise the importance of all aspects in football.
Have a feeling also, if we had kept Milner, he would have made sure Bajcetic took these things more seriously. Great leader, and someone the club really missed last season, more so than Hendo, in my opinion.
27 May 2024 20:18:56
Hendo?
Did I miss something?
The old guard really must be coming back, since Klopp left.
14 May 2024 18:38:32
And, you figured this out, how?
Did you see the one player who has actually been consistently good these last 2 years and thought, none of that!