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01 Apr 2023 12:32:55
If there is one player I would love to sign it’s Napoli’s Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, do liverpool have any interest in him at all ed002.

{Ed002's Note - Khvicha Kvaratskhelia (LW) In late 2021 Torino, Borussia Dortmund and Lokomotiv Moscow were speaking with Rubin Kazan who said they were not willing to sell at that time. Previously the player had been watched by Bayern Munich and his agent had been hawking him around the Premier League clubs including Everton with, according to him, Leeds showing some interest. CA had been open to the idea of replacing Bolasie and Bernard with him but it was clear something was going on in the background. Remarkably he was sold to Georgian side Dinamo Batumi for a small amount of money but well beyond their means in March 2022. For 3 months Napoli and Juventus discussed a deal with his agent and on July 1, 2022 he moved to Napoli, giving a small profit to Dinamo Batumi. A move to Spain with Real Sociedad was ruled out. Paratici had originally identified him for Juventus and it is was surprise Spurs did not follow up, but that may well have changed. Roma waited too long to be a viable option. The transfers are potentially going to be looked at by UEFA. Don't rule out Real Madrid or Manchester City looking at taking the player who has also attracted scouts from Liverpool and Juventus but interest from both has gone with other recruits. Newcastle have a declared interest but a move seems unlikely. Napoli have no intention of selling and will offer a new contract I expect to be agreed.}

1.) 01 Apr 2023 17:12:34
Sorry but can't see him coming out to europa league music or even still conference league?

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19 Aug 2023 20:48:03
Thought the red was harsh, their will be many reds this year by if that’s the standard we are going to see this season, Slob looked very good but we still too wide open, also too many players not creating space just standing still asking for the ball, then knocking it back, the penalty depends on how you interpret the rules, if slob hadn’t jumped over the stretched out leg he would of been brought down, the rules say if intent is there then it is a foul, wish we could go back 30/ 40 years ago when we all knew what the rules was, football was more enjoyable then.

1.) 19 Aug 2023 21:42:50
Howard Webb giving his patronising VAR PR gospel at Sky advocating balance and fairness. Joke! Embarrassing decisions and we’re only two games in. Sort is out Webb!

2.) 19 Aug 2023 22:04:43
Harsh?

It was just a terrible decision.

{Ed025's Note - take the red specs off Ron, it was correct mate..

3.) 19 Aug 2023 22:36:20
The standard of refereeing in the premier league is p*as poor and that’s the issue, VAR is not the issue it’s the people implementing it that are the problem! I will never understand the clear and obvious rule around VAR which to me is just used as a catch all loophole to exonerate refs and VAR for making terrible decisions.

The ref association have way too much power and now bring in rules which prohibit a player even asking the ref a question for fear of being booked for dissent? Couple that with the fact that a ref never has to explain his decision and if a manager says anything negative they are fined. all the while you have Webb spouting off about transparency I mean seriously! Very reminiscent of a certain tyrants regime….

4.) 19 Aug 2023 22:38:06
Come on Ed025. there’s a few of those tables in every game every week. Like when strikes are chasing a ball down and catch the defender as he clear it.

Your entitled to your opinion, but your being as harsh as the red card mate.

{Ed025's Note - it is just that Kay...an opinion, i seen it as late, reckless, high and dangerous mate, if that had happened to a liverpool player you would all have wanted him sent off im sure..

5.) 19 Aug 2023 23:49:15
It wasn’t correct, it wasn’t endangering an opponent, the ref got it wrong.

6.) 20 Aug 2023 00:42:07
We all agree the standard of refereeing has been shocking for years, so the authorities answer is to add more referees to make it better?, just more snouts in the trough for me, whilst spending most of their time covering up the cock ups.

7.) 20 Aug 2023 01:41:51
Even Iraola (Bournemouth manager) told he feels in real life it didn't feel like a red. there ain't any red tinted glass mate.

8.) 20 Aug 2023 02:45:11
We had very similar incident in the Newcastle game and the Spurs game, high boot challenge mistimed for a ball that was in the air resulting in studs first Contact and neither was given as a red. We need to be consistent.

9.) 20 Aug 2023 04:53:50
The red card was wrong the replays show both players going for the ball, both at the same height, it wasn’t even that high. Some of the decisions, over the matches already played, show a cause for concern. The var refs have made massive mistakes which could affect teams seasons.

10.) 19 Aug 2023 23:25:22
Ed025, sorry no red specs in this case. The foot was facing down, hanging not aggressive. Both were at similar heights . more of a coming together at most yellow. No dangerous or deliberate foul play. a ridiculous decision by an inexperienced ref. If that is the standard for bad tackles then the game is gone.

{Ed025's Note - it was not malicious Ben but it did look ugly mate, mistimed and over zealous i would say, Macca is not that type of player but even though it was borderline i can see why the red was given, he was a bit unlucky but i cant argue with the decision..

11.) 19 Aug 2023 23:27:24
ED025 - reckless. how? He went for the ball, just like the other player. Do we want a none contact sport now?

Late. yes by a 0.005 second. Eyes only on the ball, trying to win it back in a good area.

High. er he caught him on the top of his foot, by his ankle?

Dangerous. he actually had his studs down and it was the side of his foot that caught him. Both players had their feet in the air.

What the Man U keeper did the other night was more dangerous, reckless, high and late. That wasn't even given as a foul.

Come on mate. I love your responses normally but this one i just can't get my head around.

{Ed025's Note - even though it was a bit harsh Leeroy i can see why it was given, i agree with you over the Onana incident and consistency is a problem with refs, but if that was against a liverpool player on the receiving end you would all want him hung drawn and quartered, like you did with Pickford mate..

12.) 19 Aug 2023 23:31:12
ED025 - first time I've read one of your response and thought you must be watching a different game. Can you explain how you think it was any of those things you mention? It was a bog standard clash you see often in games. Both players trying to win the ball and one being slightly quicker than the other. No malice in it whatsoever. The player clearly wasn't hurt or endangered. Yellow on we go. If that was the other way round and they got a red, I'd still say football is being ruined by poor officiating.

13.) 19 Aug 2023 23:34:15
Ed025, correct me if I'm wrong because I've heard it over a hundred times in commentary during games and written on here also, over many years: "two studs up is a red card, one stud up is a yellow". And I've seen the rule exercised many many times. Tell me I'm wrong and that I'm hallucinating.

{Ed025's Note - as far as i know its the context rather than written in stone ArAy, it was a poor challenge and probably borderline but i can see why it was given mate..

14.) 20 Aug 2023 00:45:04
Ed 25. Your usually fair and unbiased.
I think you believe it was a red, but my opinion is your wrong on this occasion.


It was a tiny bit high.
Yellow. Never a red.

On the refs, why can't we take some pointers from rugby?

{Ed025's Note - the standard of refereeing is poor MLG, there have been some shocking decisions by them already mate, but i just dont think the sending off yesterday was one of them..

15.) 20 Aug 2023 07:31:19
Mac actually tried to pull his leg away yet a few days ago united goalie took 2 players out off the ball and nothing was given for it. I've seen much worse than Macs tackle get no cards with even studs in people's faces not getting sent off. It was a terrible decision an out of everyone, even pundits, I've only seen ed25 saying it was a red.

{Ed025's Note - my first instinct was that it was a red TSH, i can see why people think it was harsh mate but it is what it is..

16.) 20 Aug 2023 07:38:16
Can’t wrap my y head around your response Ed, you are usually balanced and fair, but I don’t see how you watch that tackle and think ‘red card’. Zero malice, not even particularly strong contact, no follow through, it was a 50/ 50 he was slightly late for but he didn’t endanger the opponent at all. We’ll have to agree to disagree but I think you’re well wide of the mark on this one.

{Ed025's Note - and i can see why you think that Seano as it was borderline, probably looked worse than it was but i can see why it was given mate..

17.) 20 Aug 2023 06:59:04
Sorry Ed 25 I don’t agree with you at all. I listened to the game on the radio, the commentators felt the penalty call and red were wrong decisions. Having now seen both incidents, I agree. I don’t think it should have been a pen, and there was nothing reckless or dangerous in Mac’s red, I didn’t even think it was that forceful. I do think footy is getting a bit too soft now…. but that is my opinion.

{Ed025's Note - its all about opinions MOT but in real time as soon as i seen it i said red, i can see why some think it was a yellow mate but that was an incident where i dont think even VAR could overturn it..

18.) 20 Aug 2023 07:07:17
Sorry Ed25 that just isn’t a red mate.

There was a number of similar tackles yesterday all yellow cards.

There was just no force behind it. It was a bouncing ball they’ve both gone for and naturally one gets there a fraction before the other.

{Ed025's Note - it was a tight call Wassa i grant you, borderline yes but i have no problem with the outcome mate..

19.) 20 Aug 2023 07:27:17
Never a red, it was a 50/ 50 ball, which both players played for and which both players had their foot up at the SAME height and both trying to side foot it. Unless I'm mistaken football is still a contact sport and not some kind of dance or ballet. Ed25 I think senior citizens get eye tests for free, might want to put in an appointment with spec savers mate lol.

{Ed025's Note - you could be right FB, i might ask the optician to prescribe me ones with a bit of a red tint mate, they seem to be all the rage at the moment.. :)

20.) 20 Aug 2023 08:03:35
Protecting players is really important, protecting the game I grew with is is paramount. I dread to think what football will look like in years to come. The stop start with var, handballs In the box, 10 minutes of added time and these crazy calls for red cards.

What was so bad with leaving the linesman to call offside, letting the ref decide if handball was deliberate or accidental and letting two teams go at it physically.

21.) 20 Aug 2023 08:33:22
Ed025, fair play regarding your opinion of the sending off as like you said it’s determined by individual interpretation however if the sending off is appealed which Im in no doubt it will be, in your opinion do you think common sense will prevail and it will be overturned or are you still of the impression it was a valid sending off?

{Ed025's Note - i personally dont think it will be rescinded Jaydee, it was a close call but still a red for me im afraid mate..

22.) 20 Aug 2023 08:54:11
I don’t know why the ref can’t call to review it himself on such a big shout, go to the monitor and see it again before making his decision.

If he calls it after that then fine as it’s always a little bit subjective, but IMO if that’s a red, then a lot of 50/ 50 tackles are going to be red cards this season if we’re going to be consistent. I’m not sure I want to see the game going down the route of players pulling out of tackles in case they get them the slightest bit wrong and sent off.

23.) 20 Aug 2023 09:02:03
Everyone should prob get off ed25s back a bit now he's explained why he thinks it's a red even though most if not all of us disagree. No point trying to convince him its going around in circles and he's probably got other things to be getting on with.

{Ed025's Note - well i have got a lot of ironing piling up TSH, cheers mate.. :)

24.) 20 Aug 2023 09:06:00
I don’t think it was a yellow let alone a red and I have seen very few people agree with the decision.

25.) 20 Aug 2023 09:57:06
imo, it's a harsh red, but his foot was up which means it's unlikely to be turned over on appeal.

26.) 20 Aug 2023 09:43:03
Over zealous? ?
Since when has being over zealous been punishable by a red card?

{Ed025's Note - when you are late and try to amputate your opponent?.. :)

27.) 20 Aug 2023 10:39:45
On the positive it gives endo a great chance to make the no. 6 role his own, let’s hope that Jones is fit enough for the next game. A midfield 3 of endo, Jones and Szbo is not too shabby if you ask me!

28.) 20 Aug 2023 10:54:17
As far as I’m aware (could have changed because almost every other rule has) the standard is:

Foot up off the ground ✅
Contact made ✅
Out of control ❌

He was not out of control, 2 feet off the ground is automatically ‘out of control’. In fact, as someone else pointed out Mac A pulled back a little when he saw the man - so it was completely controlled.
He was just beaten to the bouncing ball by a fraction of a second. It happens, many many times, it’s a yellow card.

As for Ed025, he has his view and I think we all respect it. There is no consensus on this decision in wider football so Ed025 is just coming at it from a different point of view.

{Ed025's Note - good assessment that Ron..

29.) 20 Aug 2023 13:11:52
But that's not over zealous or 'borderline', Ed025.
You can't seem to make your mind up whether it was 'over zealous' and a 'borderline' red card or an attempt to 'amputate'.
You're all over the place, mate.

{Ed025's Note - I got fed up using the term “borderline” in every reply Rigsby. Maybe I answer too many posts mate..

01 Jan 2023 09:58:13
I agree with kloppis topp, no disrespect to Elliot but when he starts we look weak in midfield, and as we never seem to press as a team like we used to, teams aren’t losing the ball up the pitch and have time to pick out passes, we need to drop back 10 yards if not playing this way and then we become more compact and this helps the defence, you can see the pace we have especially Nunez, the opposition come out more giving our players an open running field, that said I do think we need a solid centre midfielder who can break up attacks and set us on attack,

1.) 01 Jan 2023 10:11:54
He has also been MOTM in some games, as well as very poor, for example vs Inter.
He is a young player, and perhaps his style / type is not suited to a Klopp side, or he is a rotation player to feature against weaker sides.
If we sign Caicedo and Bellingham, Elliot is going to be competing with very good players. Only time will tell how high his ceiling is.

2.) 01 Jan 2023 10:28:39
Elliot has everything to go to the top in my opinion. I just worry he’s going to get caught up and lost playing in midfield. It won’t be long before some fans forget his age and how talented he is and turn on him.

3.) 01 Jan 2023 10:30:22
For me we should be playing on the break more
We have plenty of pace up top and at fullback.

4.) 01 Jan 2023 10:33:28
I asked ed001 about him yesterday he thinks he just needs time to learn the role. I think he is a bit young for the type of player he is to play cm. I see a lot of the David Silver Bernardo silver and Modric type players in him but none of them was playing cm at his age and none in a league as tough as the premier league.
I think he will turn into a great player but he needs time to develop but I think he needs a stronger midfield round him to come in and out and without the pressure of being a first team starter in cm.

5.) 01 Jan 2023 11:42:22
Awk he's a quality player, but is still very young so will have games he is excellent in and some poor ones as well. Imo he needs to play and be given a chance, playing constantly is the only way young players settle and mature - great potential to the kid.

6.) 01 Jan 2023 12:46:23
HNY all.
The old idiom of a game being won or lost in midfield still rings true to me.
Our current choices do not suit a consistent style of playing lots of games with an aggressive high press style unfortunately.
It’s ok to say that the forwards aren’t pressing, but it’s because the midfield can’t follow them, in my view.
For the press to work well, the forwards start it but the midfield is the concertina, it needs to work up and then back again if the press is broken.
And ours is limited in its ability to do that game in, game out.

Having said that, you’ve just got to start aggressively and get that first goal, it changes the entire dynamic of the game.
It looked like Klopp had addressed that but then back to square one against Leicester.
We’ve got much the same squad that went to Newcastle last season and dominated them, so they can do it, just need to get revved up and wired in.
And don’t sell Gomez, he’s far too good a footballer for that.

7.) 01 Jan 2023 12:53:45
I guess Harvey Elliot is injured or rested next few games
With Chamberlain vacating the left side for Gakpo I have a feeling Henderson wFabinho and Thiago in midfield and leaves us options for Carvalho, Doak and Bajectic to come on as subs when we are 4 - 0 up.

8.) 01 Jan 2023 13:41:32
Would it be worth going 4-2-3-1 for the next few? Fabinho Thiago Mo Bobby Gakpo and Darwin? Back 4 Konate in for Matip? Of course all this depends on Bobby being fit and Cody being eligible (not sure he'll be registered for tomorrow) . Just a suggestion.

29 May 2022 08:05:28
I agree peteprice
Our weak link that teams always seem to exploit is Trent switching off, he gets caught out with cross field balls over the top time and time again, that is when he is there, too often lately he seems to think he is playing in centre midfield, like salah since January, both have been underperforming, when teams put everyone behind the ball the best thing to do is make the pitch as big as possible and draw players out, make overlapping runs that create space, all he seems to do lately is stand in centre mid and jog back if the other team counter attack, I’m not bashing Trent because of the goal last night. For me I think I remember ed01 saying when he came into the team the plan was to get game time at right back before moving him into midfield, me personally think he would do a better job there now.

1.) 29 May 2022 08:23:27
Trent won't play midfield when Klopp is here forget it.

Again it's nothing to do with Trent, he's asked to attack and midfielders to fill the gap. Coz not only Trent any FB is going to struggle when we we play that much high up the pitch.

If you think in 90 minutes opposition isn't going to get a chance then you're watching wrong sport.

Our biggest problem is upfront not at the back.

You can't keep on playing that high up the pitch taking big risks at the back and front players not taking their chances.

Klopp and he's backroom staff needs to take some big decisions This summer. Coz our squad needs some serious fresh legs/ faces to keep on the flame burning.

2.) 29 May 2022 08:29:41
Let's not blame trent that we lost 4 matches all season and won 2 trophies and missed out in 2.

He is 23 and will improve. has improved. can't bash trent when nobody in red had a 8 out of 10 game last night. Yeah it hurts but we will be back. We are European elite once again.

3.) 29 May 2022 08:36:49
We weren't clinical enough with the chances that came our way, and that's the bottom line.
We should have buried them, even with a few players misfiring on the night. Onwards and upwards, a new season ahead.

4.) 29 May 2022 08:39:16
I am glad you mentioned Salah all mouth and no action.

5.) 29 May 2022 08:44:36
In fairness Trent had a good 89 mins defensively and a bad 1 minute where he switched off.

The boy is human, people make mistakes.

Not just this post but lots of posts since last night, perhaps people should take a look in the mirror before just blaming 1 or 2 players. For weeks and months we’ve been bordering on arrogance telling everyone ‘We will win’ and claiming the quadruple is in the bag and something about hindsight. Where’s hindsight now.

For me it’s been a great season to watch as a supporter and sadly over the last 2 games it just hasn’t gone our way. And perhaps we used all our Lady Luck in the other 2 finals with penalties.

Klopp and the players need a break and then it’s time to pick themselves up, regroup and get back to work.

After all we’re the self proclaimed best club in England and Europe and have the best fans in the world so onto next season we go.

6.) 29 May 2022 09:04:25
JK23, your first paragraph is spot on but clearly when people have agendas, it never gets mentioned. Shocking, I know. Like you, I believe it has been a great season cos we were in it to win near everything whereas the same people in the media and on here in the summer, said we would only finish 4th winning nothing. By that metric, we have outperformed our forecast for the season even tho, its tough to take the loss right now. Happy Vacation to the players and staff. They deserve it.

7.) 29 May 2022 09:21:55
Trent had a very good game last night. Their goal was a brilliant pass and he was MMS away from being offside.

We lost purely because their goalie had a blinder. We were the better team most the match. One or two players plus the hunger from losing this final we hopefully get us competing on all fronts again next year.

8.) 29 May 2022 09:29:20
1jj, it needs more than one or two players. We need to think about replacing Salah and Mane as it’s plain to see that they don’t think their long term future is here. We need a midfielder who can play both anchor and box to box and we need cover for Trent.

9.) 29 May 2022 09:38:28
I never thought we'd win all four. And Salah did ok last night. He was unlucky not to score a wonderful goal. Two lovely touches and a shot on his weaker foot but the keeper pulls of the save of the night.
It's more arrogant to be moaning and blaming players for not winning all four than it is believing we could do it.

10.) 29 May 2022 09:39:14
So why are not blaming salah and mane for not turning up? God
What a shameful bunch of
Moaning to blame trent.

11.) 29 May 2022 10:22:18
We don’t need a box to box midfielder. With our high line we just need a midfielder that gets into the box instead of playing a 60 yard pass back to Allison when they are 30 yards from the opposition goal with everyone in front of them.

For me Modric did hardly anything last night. But what little he did do his passes were clinical and opened us up. He’s not an athlete but we hardly got around him with our workmanlike midfield.

We’ve got the young lad from Fulham and I’d like to see us go more with 4 up top next season if it’s obvious the opposition are just going to park the bus. It’s no good having the centre backs and centre mids keeping possession for 70% of the game with little short unchallenged passes if it doesn’t create clear cut chances.

12.) 29 May 2022 10:28:55
when people say Trent is caught out by the long diagonals, has anyone stopped to think that this is the chink in the system that can be exploited given the way we play? That is, it's not necessarily his fault that he gets caught out positionally because of how Klopp and co set us up?
I thought he had more good moments defensively than not. Our forward line is brilliant but imo, we have suffered from Mo's poor form for most of 2022 for too long and we haven't had enough consistent production out of that side of the field. Which is a shame for us.

13.) 29 May 2022 11:55:32
Whilst you say not to blame Trent, he was the perceived weak link in our defence that Real Madrid targeted…. and it worked for them! Other team have done that too so clearly there is something there that needs sorting somehow because I don’t see any team targeting the left back position. Don’t get me wrong Trent has got better in his defensive duties but he still has lapses of concentration and yesterday they scored from one.

14.) 30 May 2022 00:20:21
Might be a bit inconvenient, but didn't Real Madrid go past about 7 other Liverpool players before Vini got the ball? Blaming Trent at the end is like blaming the goalie all the time lol.

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07 Aug 2023 19:57:13
I agree, have you ever thought liverpool only value him at £40m and are now going above what they think is a fair price, personally £50m is way above what I would pay for him at this stage of his career, I would sooner spend the money on a top centre back, we have seen over last few season we have missed out on players and people on here have slated the club for not buying only to see said players not exactly settling the world on fire, have faith in Klopp.

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