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12 Jun 2023 20:49:10
Whispers of Chiesa . Salah to psg anyone?

molbyslostgoal

1.) 12 Jun 2023 21:34:16
Chiesa, like most players, is not fit to lace Salah's boots. I'll keep the guy we have who's scoring 30 a season and should have the fitness to do so for at least another 2-3 years, ta.


2.) 12 Jun 2023 21:38:21
Not to mention Chiesa did his ACL 18 months ago and has scored 4 goals in all appearances since coming back. Salah scored more goals than that in April last season.


3.) 12 Jun 2023 21:43:27
PSG want Chiesa and Salah?


4.) 12 Jun 2023 22:29:40
Chiesa is finished at the top level. That ACL is going to be the cause of repeat injuries for the rest of his career. I doubt even we’d be stupid enough to sell Salah and attempt to replace him with a crock like Chiesa. There’s no price that makes him worth the risk.


5.) 12 Jun 2023 23:00:22
Cool fishing trip!


6.) 12 Jun 2023 23:50:59
I don’t think there’s any right sided attacker that gets us 30 goals a season that would come to us at present. Let’s be honest we very rarely even buy those sort of players, we usually make them. Chiesa isn’t the answer. I wouldn’t mind seeing if Olise or Eze could step up but Salah isn’t done for a couple of years yet.


7.) 13 Jun 2023 00:01:57
No TB2, they just want a cheese salad.


8.) 13 Jun 2023 06:41:38
‘Whispers of Chiesa’ sounds like a very subtle savoury snack.


9.) 13 Jun 2023 07:47:10
BBC claim that PSG are willing to sell Mbappe before his contract runs out, if that's true I think they will come for Salah over Kane, the question is will LFC sell and will Salah push for the sale.


10.) 13 Jun 2023 08:05:09
polecat it's a clear Salah/ Mbappe swap deal, wages won't be a prob.


11.) 13 Jun 2023 08:19:49
I think its misinterpreted, what PSG wants are Käse (cheese) and Salad.


12.) 13 Jun 2023 08:29:08
Think the only 1 who hits salah's numbers is mbappe. if there's no standup replacement i'd let Doak go at it as long as the money was put into improving other areas of the side like a gvardiol for example. but salah been sold should be an absolute last resort.


13.) 13 Jun 2023 08:36:33
Can’t we just bring a few of the kids in and bulk up the squad! Why get rid of our best attacker and replace with someone who clearly has not been the same player since injury! If he was that good juventus would keep him and play him, Doak should be given the chance to play, when he has been given the chance I have been very impressed with him! Very rough but boy does he get stuck in and causes teams problems being so direct, we can’t afford to keep buying these random players unless someone gets sold! We need another midfielder who can cover the right which seems to be thuram I would also like Kone or veiga as I would imagine fabs goes next year so be good to bed one of those two in while we can actually afford them! And when fabs leaves we have bajetic and either one of those mentioned above to compete. Also gives back our pressing capabilities, then a left sided defender to start pushing van dijk and hopefully taking his spot in the coming years. Forward line is complete in my eyes. Just my opinion.


14.) 13 Jun 2023 08:50:57
If salah does push for the move (which I hope he doesn’t) I’d go for mbeumo from Brentford. Always impressed me and plenty of room to grow. I expect this won’t be a popular opinion.


15.) 13 Jun 2023 11:04:58
Salah moving is the best solution for both parties imo. He is clearly a legend and will be remembered forever. But he was past his prime and doesn't deserve his huge wage. His finishing and dribbling are done. His shooting power and accuracy are worse than my 1st grade daughter's. What if in next 2 seasons he gets older and his form is still as disappointing as in the past 1.5 years? No one is bigger than this club, even Klopp and Salah. It isn't necessary to replace him with a player of the same level, our manager is smart enough to be able to adjust tactics without him in the squad.


16.) 13 Jun 2023 11:40:48
tab00, if your 1st grade daughter can shoot more powerfully and accurately than Salah, who has just scored 30+ goals for us for the 4th time in 5 seasons (IIRC) then she has a promising career ahead of her. You must be a very proud Daddy.

If only all of our teams form was as 'disappointing' as Salah's has been.

Sheesh!


17.) 13 Jun 2023 11:45:25
@tab00, I’d say you are right and it’s almost certain that Salah will get older in the next two years. Not sure about any of the other stuff you wrote though.


18.) 13 Jun 2023 12:07:51
WDW, he could be 'Mo Button' or 'Benjamin Salah'


19.) 13 Jun 2023 12:10:12
Just ignore my joke Zed. His record stats will last for a long time. But Salah-before-AFCON2022 has gone. We need to prepare to move on without him.


20.) 13 Jun 2023 12:44:37
I think there is every chance Mo pushes for the move. He currently has no CL football next season and certainly not guaranteed in the future with the competitive nature of the PL. If he moves to PSG, he is pretty much guaranteed CL football for the rest of his career, a league title each season and possibly the odd cup win too. That coupled with the no doubt enormous wages they'd offer, it almost seems ideal for him moving towards the last few years of his career.


21.) 13 Jun 2023 13:07:28
I don't disagree with succession planning tab, but we've got quite a few gaps right now, and Salah ain't one of them. He may be in 1-2 seasons time but who knows a) how the other 4 attackers develop and b) how Elliot/ Doak or others from the youth set up are able to step up too.


22.) 13 Jun 2023 13:07:28
I don't disagree with succession planning tab, but we've got quite a few gaps right now, and Salah ain't one of them. He may be in 1-2 seasons time but who knows a) how the other 4 attackers develop and b) how Elliot/ Doak or others from the youth set up are able to step up too.


23.) 13 Jun 2023 14:32:48
Mess with Salah on this chat group at your peril, tabOO. I've tried. I'm still recovering.


24.) 13 Jun 2023 15:05:30
Not just Salah. I think mess with any of the players that deliver 30+ goals a season.

Oh, hang on!


25.) 13 Jun 2023 18:04:10
Sure. It's a convincing argument. But It's also not a zero sum game, Zeddicus. It doesn't mean we necessarily lose 30 goals plus if lose Salah. It could also mean we gain 20 plus goals elsewhere, more evenly spread, and finish 4th.


26.) 13 Jun 2023 17:56:04
What I'm saying is, I can see FSG selling salah to psg, to replace Mbappe.

Then I think its not beyond the possibility that fSG go for Chiesa.

But saying I want that.

But there's certainly more chance of that then a straight swap,


27.) 13 Jun 2023 18:59:00
Going for Chiesa would be dumb. You’d be just as well to set fire to a pile of £50 notes. A 30 something Salah is better and more reliable than a completely broken Chiesa.


28.) 13 Jun 2023 19:17:49
Agreed. He's not necessarily completely broken but he surely is no longer the guy who tore up the Euros.


 

 

11 Apr 2023 21:42:22
Whats all this Tchouameni instead of bellingham.

molbyslostgoal

 

 

04 Apr 2023 22:15:51
Ed2,
Any update on the SD?

molbyslostgoal

{Ed002's Note - I gave an update earlier in the week but am not sure of changes since then.}


1.) 05 Apr 2023 12:00:34
Whenever I see "SD", I get a traumatic reminder of Stewart Downing.


2.) 05 Apr 2023 12:38:49
FPF, every time I've watched Andy Robertson this season I've had a traumatic reminder of Stewart Downing.


3.) 05 Apr 2023 12:46:48
Whose SD? I can’t work it out ha.


4.) 05 Apr 2023 12:47:09
Do you mean sporting director?


5.) 05 Apr 2023 17:23:17
Lazy posting.


6.) 05 Apr 2023 18:13:32
My dirty mind thought SD meant Sexual Disease!


7.) 05 Apr 2023 18:32:29
Sean Dyche?


8.) 05 Apr 2023 20:06:26
Surely SD is code for Sude Dellingham. All those looking for news on Bellingham, you haven’t been searching right. All the info is under Sude Dellingham, or SD for short ?.


9.) 06 Apr 2023 08:31:18
More like scooby doo.


 

 

26 Aug 2015 17:00:44
Rumours of Lucas staying now, please let this be true ! Is this because of Hendos injury ed?

molbyslostgoal

{Ed001's Note - no it was always in the balance, he loves it at the club.}


 

 

 

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13 Jun 2023 17:57:18
Chiesa or somebody of that ilk, aka, a poor or much cheaper replacement.

Its very obvious Salah would go in a heartbeat.

molbyslostgoal

1.) 13 Jun 2023 18:19:00
Chiesa has injury issues, we should stay away.


2.) 13 Jun 2023 18:25:23
Not sure if true but I’m sure I read somewhere the other day Salah had more goals and assists last season than Bobby, Gakpo (LFC) Jota, Nunez and Diaz combined.

You could probably add our midfielders into it as well and he’d still be ahead.


3.) 13 Jun 2023 18:45:39
The attraction of new shiny objects is simply too iressistable with certain sections of the fanbase. The grass is not only greener on the other side, must be glittering like gold.


4.) 13 Jun 2023 19:02:02
Salahs been willing to go in a heartbeat since the day he signed but he's that bad a player no one will take him off our hands apparently.


5.) 13 Jun 2023 20:20:04
Isn’t Salah contracted to the club for a couple of years yet? The club don’t have to let him go. Of course if anybody offers silly money then (if it were my choice) I’d take it, but that’s a matter for the club, not Salah or, more likely, his agent. As I say the decision to keep or release any contracted player belongs to the club and not the player.

{Ed025's Note - moder day slavery?..


6.) 13 Jun 2023 21:02:03
Pre injury Chiesa? Definitely. Post injury? I think Chiesa needs to show he can come back to where he wzas before such a devastating knee injury.


7.) 14 Jun 2023 08:07:02
It’s not a bad world when slaves earn £ 300,000 a week.


8.) 14 Jun 2023 09:42:26
WDW3, the only thing one can compare to slavery, is slavery itself and nothing else let alone comparing it to “slavery” where you get paid tens of thousands of pounds kicking a ball around. Just my take.


9.) 14 Jun 2023 10:35:33
I actually had a couple of replies before the £ 300,000 reply that didn’t make it onto the forum when I posted them. It’s fair to say that I would ‘strongly agree’ with you opinion.


10.) 14 Jun 2023 03:53:32
Interesting definition of slavery Ed02.

Salah was offered a contract which he chose to sign. I believe the contract provides him with a sum of £ 300,000 over week, which isn’t too bad for a slave.

Would Valverde be considered a slave at Real Madrid, as you mentioned on the a transfer page that Real Madrid don’t want to sell him.

{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}


11.) 14 Jun 2023 11:25:26
WDW you’ve replied to Ed0002 instead of Ed0025.


12.) 13 Jun 2023 23:16:34
Slap dab on the money Ed02 - we stuck a gun to his head and said sign this £ 300k a week contract, slave.

{Ed025's Note - I was just making the comparison because you said we own him mate..


13.) 14 Jun 2023 20:33:22
Apologies Ed02 - second ‘old person’ moment this week. I might need to go and see someone about my short term whatsitsname ?

And fair enough Ed25. - not only should read what’s there in print I should also take the time to check the meaning of what’s written too.

It is with great pleasure that I shall impose a ban on myself from the forum for the next couple of weeks.

{Ed025's Note - i dont think there is the need for that WDW, but maybe posting a bit less frequent may help you mate...and i mean that in the nicest possible way..


14.) 14 Jun 2023 21:05:08
WDW you’d sell our best player who has the highest number of goals and assists for the last few seasons now and replace him with who? Elliot.


 

 

23 Apr 2023 22:12:23
I think Jota is the best finisher in the team.

Doesn't always link well, struggles at times to complete a pass.

But the best finisher, I think.

Fire away.

molbyslostgoal

1.) 23 Apr 2023 22:54:59
I’d Probably go with the fella who’s just equalled sixth on Liverpools all time scoring list myself molby ?.


2.) 23 Apr 2023 23:20:04
LFC8, the man gets no respect at all, I tell you. He's done it with 71 games played less too, and yet people are rambling on and on about how the game has changed in 20 years so you can't compare. Really? Like what has changed? The size of the ball? The size of the goalposts? The sizes of the fields? Or is it the human species that has evolved in those 20 years and we have more arms and legs now, or something? ?.


3.) 24 Apr 2023 03:00:45
I think Jota is in a purple patch right now but on a usual day, his finishing is quite poor. He usually misses a few chances before one finally goes into the net. Even against Forest, he missed with a header that he should have scored from. But he did ultimately score two so he more than made up for that miss.

Don't get me wrong though, he works hard for the team and deserves the goals he has been getting. He is also on form right now and deserves to start matches based on that. But I don't think he is the best finisher we have in the team.


4.) 24 Apr 2023 05:36:12
I think that's a bit prisoner of the moment.


5.) 24 Apr 2023 05:51:24
For me, none of the forwards we have are world class finishers. In fact, except Origi we haven't had one in the past 5-6 years. But that didn't stop us from winning everything, since we generally create a ton of chances.
@LiverpoolFC8, Salah is a wonderful player and a legend for us, but his finishing is very inconsistent. He can score the most outrageous goals, and then miss easy ones. For me, Sturridge was the last great finisher who played consistently for us.


6.) 24 Apr 2023 09:18:18
I’m sure someone will be able to put up a goals per shot conversion and maybe a goals per minute ratio against Salah, Darwin etc ?.


7.) 24 Apr 2023 09:26:18
Origi a world class finisher? Is it April the 1st already? Talk about red tinted glasses!


8.) 24 Apr 2023 09:52:56
Origi? love it??.


9.) 24 Apr 2023 10:07:45
Origi, although he scored some important goals, he wasn't a world class finisher. In fact, most of the time he had his 50p shaped shooting boots on!


10.) 24 Apr 2023 11:04:22
It's an interesting discussion whether a player can be world class at a specific skill in football. Klopp once said Origi was the best finisher at the club to be fair. Whether or not that made him a world class finisher is up for debate though. I'd say he wasn't myself.

Personally i think the last truly world class finisher we had was Suarez, and before that Torres. In my opinion you have to be consistently burying 1 in 4 chances on either foot or with your head to even be considered for the accolade of a world class finisher. However Salah is proof you can make up for a lack of efficiency in front of goal by just being relentless and continually getting into scoring positions until it eventually comes.

Jota is probably the best in the current squad with that in mind but i don't think he's a 1 in 4 shots player. Origi was similar. Good with both feet and his head but not clinical enough to be a world class finisher.

Haaland and Kane are probably the only world class finishers in the Prem right now. We have to be realistic about it. Jota is a good player (when fit) currently in good form, but he's not world class at anything.


11.) 24 Apr 2023 12:06:19
From what I remember now, Origi used to finish the good chances he got. His problem, imo, was not finishing the chances, but getting them in the first place. His movement was quite poor, and he would often be in positions from where you wouldn't expect someone to really score.
To add to your point @MKS, Eddie Nketiah is another really good finisher. But again, his overall game is much poorer as compared to Jesus.


12.) 24 Apr 2023 12:43:11
Jota is definitely the best finisher we have at the club right now. He has the added benefit of being comfortable with both feet. His weakness is the rest of his game and of course injuries.

Harry Kane, as much as I dislike him, is the best out there. I am not sure how natural Haaland is, given he was grown in a lab. We'll see how he fares when he loses his speed and explosiveness.

You wonder whether the those naturally talented finishers still have a pathway in modern football given the huge focus on pressing, running and the importance of wide forwards in most tactical systems.

It would be a shame if the next Robbie Fowler's couldn't find a way into the game to do what they are naturally talented at.


13.) 24 Apr 2023 18:16:51
I don’t know who said it, but I seem to remember a quote along the lines of ‘putting the ball into the net is the hardest part of the game, everything else can be coached’.


14.) 24 Apr 2023 18:41:32
Irish, you asked and here it is. Goals per game ratio in the PL (the only thing I could find) :

Player Appnces Goals Goals per Games Ratio
Fernando Torres 102 65 0.637
Mohamed Salah 211 134 0.635
Luis Suarez 110 69 0.627
Michael Owen 216 118 0.546
Robbie Fowler 266 128 0.481
Sadio Mané 196 90 0.459
Daniel Sturridge 116 50 0.431
Stan Collymore 61 26 0.426
Diogo Jota 69 28 0.406
Darwin Nunez 25 9 0.360
Cody Gakpo 14 5 0.357

You can come up with a lot of conclusions; I'll let everyone come up with their own.

{Ed025's Note - good stuff ArAy....cheers mate..


15.) 24 Apr 2023 19:27:06
Welcome Ed025. The true champion is still undeniably Ian Rush. He had a goals per game ratio of 0.524 (that's Owen and Fowler levels) for Liverpool. But he did it with 346 goals over 660 games for Liverpool; which is massive. Longevity of performance for a sportsman is an undervalued criterion and not appreciated enough. (Rush is not on the list because it's for the EPL only, and if I included Rush then I would have to include those who came before him) .

{Ed025's Note - i loved rushy ArAy, started the concept of defending from the front and would have been a dream for the klopp era, i did dislike him scoring against us of course but had huge respect for the guy mate..


16.) 24 Apr 2023 20:52:44
Rush scores 1 rush scores 2 rush scores 3 and rush scores 4 la la la la la la, was you at goodison that night ed .

{Ed025's Note - yes mate unfortunately, he scored loads against us hailstones and at the time i hated him, but when i got older i realized i didn.t really hate him...i just disliked him intensely mate.. :)


17.) 24 Apr 2023 21:07:55
And here I was thinking only our World class finisher, Divock Origi, gave you nightmares, Ed025. LOL. ?.

{Ed025's Note - i quite liked divock actually ArAy, nice guy who played with a smile on his face, absolute gash footballer mind.. :)


18.) 24 Apr 2023 21:48:45
He was great rushie ed, but even better than rushie was dixie dean, just imagine him and haaland going head to head for the golden boot these days.

{Ed025's Note - i never actually seen the great dixie hailstones but he certainly has legendary status mate, 60 goals in a season will never happen again i imagine, he makes haaland look like diego jota mate.. :)


19.) 24 Apr 2023 23:42:46
Hahahaha you strike again ed, dixie way before my time but since a young lad i have known about the 60 goals in the season which was immense.


20.) 25 Apr 2023 07:26:57
I wouldn’t be so dismissive of the game has changed argument ArAy.

That being said it depends on what era you are taking about. If you are saying 20 years then I would largely agree with you but I’d say go back from mid 90s to anything earlier and there is definitely a discussion to be had.


21.) 25 Apr 2023 11:59:09
Wassa, there's always a discussion to be had when comparing not only eras, but age groups, leagues, continents and quite a few other criteria. My context was simply that Salah does not get enough credit; people are very dismissive of the magnitude of what he has done. If we use only goals scored per game, he's up there with some of the best in the history of the club. And he's a winger, not even a striker or center field forward.


 

 

23 Apr 2023 09:01:47
I would hate to see Everton relegated.

I'm not from the Liverpool, but grew up on the intense, but hugely respectful rivalry that saw some great times.

Not many big Cities have 2 successful teams with a healthy respect for each other.

molbyslostgoal

{Ed025's Note - unfortunately molby those days are well gone mate, there is no respect between the clubs these days only hatred and bitterness and a toxicity that rivals the glasgow derbies im afraid, i believe its more of a social problem rather than a football one though and the only thing that brings the clubs together these days is the JFT97 campaign, i know im a cynic but it would not surprise me if even that went out of the window in the future..


1.) 23 Apr 2023 09:22:36
I hate to say it but you are right ed25 and it is for that reason that I'd be quite happy if they went down. Not a nice club anymore I'm afraid.

{Ed025's Note - its not just everton though marty, liverpool supporters are just as bad mate and thats why i believe its a social problem rather than a football one..


2.) 23 Apr 2023 09:29:54
I totally agree Ed. Some of the fans are a disgrace mate. Hooligans and thick as two short planks.

{Ed025's Note - yeah its horrible marty and the demise between the two teams after the 80,s cup finals is stark, i quit going about 8 years ago and will never attend a derby game again, mind you it looks like we will only meet in cup competitions after this annus horribilus mate.. :)


3.) 23 Apr 2023 09:50:49
I agree Ed, unfortunately that toxicity is on both sides - it's simply not present amongst older supporters more of a sibling rivalry there lol, hate them at times but don't wish ill-will towards them

It's unfortunate, but there seems a lot of genuine hatred towards each other between fans now and I think this has come with the younger generations and is getting worse

I'm 43 now and can remember fans sitting beside each other in a derby, I don't think we'll ever see those days again - the city is sadder because of it.

{Ed025's Note - it really is bill and for the life of me i cant think why, me and my mates go and watch the games of both clubs and there is never any trouble in the bars we frequent, as you say its probably a generational thing as most of us are in our 60,s now and even though we give each other stick there is no nastiness, i give up on it all mate and am slowly giving up on the game..


4.) 23 Apr 2023 12:20:18
I’ll be honest, I want Everton to go down. But not out of any bitterness or hatred, it’s just something I’m intrigued by. Would quite like to see the fume and general reaction. I would have a condition though, I’d want them to come straight back up. It’s just something I feel like I need to experience in my life ?.


5.) 23 Apr 2023 12:49:03
Maybe it's a generational thing but I've got a lot of time for Everton fans. And United fans. I know a few season ticket holders and they are sound. Knowledgeable about football and socialists at heart. Above all else we are football fans.
"You may say I'm a dreamer but I'm not the only one".


6.) 23 Apr 2023 12:41:21
Don't know were all this rubbish comes from, some of my mates are Everton fans and there's no trouble between us, it's just a few idiots that cause trouble but most people I know get along with each other and have some great banter. It's probably people who don't live in the city making out it's something it's not, because I live in Walton/ Kirkdale area and we never have any trouble.

{Ed025's Note - we dont jim but there is no getting away from the fact that derbies have become toxic and that in and around the grounds there is trouble, i dont know if its fuelled by the internet or just a symptom of modern society mate but its quite frightening and not nice to be around..


7.) 23 Apr 2023 14:12:36
Thomas, I think if Everton go down they're not coming back for a LONG time.

{Ed025's Note - you could be right SR..


8.) 23 Apr 2023 16:09:10
When was the turning point ed. feel some generations have just turned into thugs. I know a lot of lads who travel to watch bolton wanderers and quite a lot of them just go for a scrap I feel.
Hooliganism creeping back into society unfortunately.
As you say it is frightening these days, after all it is Just a game.


 

 

11 Feb 2023 21:26:03
The most frustrating thing is, if Liverpool got their sh1t together. They could still get 4th.

molbyslostgoal

1.) 11 Feb 2023 23:37:44
Very true. The season isn't finished like a lot of people are hysterically saying it is. But the team do need to get their act together.


2.) 12 Feb 2023 00:06:31
Oh yeah 4th is there to be had. Been saying all season people get too caught up on current form without looking at the bigger picture.
Arteta has been the new Klopp because of Arsenal’s form in the first half of the season and Klopp has been the new Arteta because of Liverpool’s.
We are now seeing just how difficult it is to maintain that level for a full season. Newcastle too. Spurs are being Spursy as usual and Utd are faultering. Chelsea don’t look like a team at all and even City look a shadow of themselves.
If we can get a run going we’ll jump up that table quicker than Howard Webb points to the penalty spot at Old Trafford.


3.) 12 Feb 2023 03:17:10
4th is there to be had which is the most frustrating thing. Only problem is we haven’t shown anything that remotely resembles consistency. That’s the major worry. But if we can start winning games we can get top 4. Let’s win one game first then go from there.


4.) 12 Feb 2023 04:12:22
@Beckers, given we are over half way through the season. In which bit could we have said ‘our current form’ was good?


5.) 12 Feb 2023 07:01:46
Let’s start with a 2-0 win against that jealous crew from the shed across the park!


6.) 12 Feb 2023 07:39:27
If we where playing to 50% of our capabilities this season i think we would get 4th.


7.) 12 Feb 2023 08:22:15
This messy season may be a write off in many ways, yet it will allow Jurgen to sort the wheat from the chaff. All of the players are under scrutiny to earn their places in the squad and team going forward.
The big clear out is coming, maybe even Mo will get sold.


8.) 12 Feb 2023 08:24:04
If my auntie had bollox she’d be my uncle.


9.) 12 Feb 2023 08:28:45
If we’d have signed one midfielder we’d have got 4th easy.
I genuinely believe if we’d have signed one in summer and again one in January we’d have walked the title this season.
We’ve thrown a premier league away in my opinion.


10.) 12 Feb 2023 09:21:50
@LiverpoolFC, er 1 in July and 1 in January is actually two ?.


11.) 12 Feb 2023 10:30:05
I didn’t say our current form was good WDW I was more saying that people don’t consider our last 5 years of good form and other teams last 5 years of poor form.
They just look at things as they are right now and say that’s how it will be forever now.
We know this team are more than capable they’ve been doing it for 5 years. Teams like Newcastle, Arsenal and Utd have only had a decent 4/ 5 months and are now struggling to maintain it.


12.) 12 Feb 2023 11:22:26
LFC08, keep telling your self that one midfielder would make all the other players and coaches stop having disaster classes all season long and maybe one day, it will be true.

As for top 4 and all that the other lads have mentioned, it is what it is. We take it on the chin this season and move in. We blew it, simple as cos I don’t see how this team can put a run together to get top 4. I hope to the heavens I’m wrong BUT I can’t see it yet.


 

 

07 Feb 2023 19:12:11
We should have sold Salah 2 years ago.

molbyslostgoal

1.) 07 Feb 2023 22:30:35
That is so super cool when people declare what we should have done in the past. ?

Can somebody find a way to go back there, maybe? More of us would be much happier then. ?.


2.) 07 Feb 2023 22:46:57
ArAy, it was said 2 years ago as well.


3.) 07 Feb 2023 23:25:41
Molby, did you share the same sentiments on Dec 2021 when Salah scored 22 goals in 24 games? That was 2 years ago so you would have sold him off before then?


4.) 08 Feb 2023 08:44:45
I proudly said that we should have sold Mo before the 2021-22 season. around the saga of his contract. Still think we would have been better off in the long run had we sold him at his highest value back then.


5.) 08 Feb 2023 08:51:45
Should have sold Henderson 8.


6.) 08 Feb 2023 10:20:01
Should have sold all our best players when they were at their peak. That would’ve Learned them!


7.) 08 Feb 2023 10:56:04
Aray _ I said it back then.

Drac - yes I would have. He was in decline even then.

My opinion / others opinion.

Banter.


8.) 08 Feb 2023 11:00:30
Selling out top scorer for those seasons would have made so much sense.


9.) 08 Feb 2023 11:06:15
If you don’t sell them at their peak and wait, you have a player in decline. Nostalgia doesn’t pay the bills.


10.) 08 Feb 2023 11:35:05
Okay. If you said it back then, and I believe you, what's the point of saying that you said it, now? What's the substance behind this claim? Did you give suggestions as to whom should replace him? Would we have had a better goal return from his replacement?

Make up your mind. Either live in the past or deal with the present. ??.


11.) 08 Feb 2023 11:41:35
@Molby: Cheers for sticking to your guns. But I would disagree with you. 22 goals in 24 games is objectively not a player in decline. He was at his peak.

@StEtienne: I have to disagree with you too. I would say that players should be sold once they are past their peak instead. We are here to win trophies, not make money, and we are more likely to win trophies with players at their peak, not before.


12.) 08 Feb 2023 12:08:44
Players like Neuer, Modric, Thiago Silva, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Christiano Ronaldo and Giorgio Chiellini (all still playing well above 35 years old) have shown us a footballer life doesn't necessarily end at 30 (Salah's age) . I wouldn't write off our best goal scorer of the last 5 years, solely based on a team-wide malaise that's unanimously acknowledged.


13.) 08 Feb 2023 12:10:21
well the argument back then was sign him to a long contract extension because he was going to be like Messi, so fit and professional that he would perform at pre-2021 levels well into his 30s. I didn't see it and for me and felt like the signs were there in our injury-ravaged season that his output was hugely dependent on the system and teams giving him space. We've seen this before from Mo, this is from memory the third time he has had this long spell of no goals.

I really don't think we need to be smarmy about this and say 'well who would you have signed' etc etc. Is that really the point, because the club are in control of that. We're talking strategy and if it were me, I was more than happy to tie Mane down, sell Mo and use those funds to refresh the attacking line.

Mo is a shining light when he pops up to score a goal or pass the ball onto someone else. in between the rest of the time he is fading out of the game, dribbling straight into defenders and so forth.

{Ed001's Note - you couldn't have tied down Mane, he wanted to go back then.}


14.) 08 Feb 2023 12:42:54
Mo Salah has been so so good for Liverpool over the years, but he was in decline when he got his new contract, much worse now, can't even beat any full back for pace, even Harry Maguire would stop him . way too many shots going over the bar .
if we have to sell to buy, then selling Mo makes the most sense,
having said all that, Mo is suffering, before he had an in form Hendo and Trent behind him, not sure that he has much support now,
so I do feel for Mo .
off to PSG in the summer then . 75 mill.


15.) 08 Feb 2023 12:08:44
Players like Neuer, Modric, Thiago Silva, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, Christiano Ronaldo and Giorgio Chiellini (all still playing well above 35 years old) have shown us a footballer life doesn't necessarily end at 30 (Salah's age) . I wouldn't write off our best goal scorer of the last 5 years, solely based on a team-wide malaise that's unanimously acknowledged.


16.) 08 Feb 2023 12:10:21
well the argument back then was sign him to a long contract extension because he was going to be like Messi, so fit and professional that he would perform at pre-2021 levels well into his 30s. I didn't see it and for me and felt like the signs were there in our injury-ravaged season that his output was hugely dependent on the system and teams giving him space. We've seen this before from Mo, this is from memory the third time he has had this long spell of no goals.

I really don't think we need to be smarmy about this and say 'well who would you have signed' etc etc. Is that really the point, because the club are in control of that. We're talking strategy and if it were me, I was more than happy to tie Mane down, sell Mo and use those funds to refresh the attacking line.

Mo is a shining light when he pops up to score a goal or pass the ball onto someone else. in between the rest of the time he is fading out of the game, dribbling straight into defenders and so forth.


17.) 08 Feb 2023 14:52:39
I disagree, players should be sold when the club has achieved it's targets and the players have sell on value to then re-invest. Obviously there are exceptions as Aray has pointed out, but I think it was clear Mo was never in that bracket. His decline was, in my opinion, quite visible from the way he was playing, finishing etc. If he had agreed to sign up on standard wages, all for it - but his demands at the time led me to think that the best option would be a sale, allowing the club to re-invest for the next 3-5 years.
It is (extremely) well documented that LFC cannot finance wholesale changes to the squad without sales, so yes, we are a club that has to make money. Players are assets that hold a fluctuating value, all the top clubs sell their 'best' players at some point bar the odd exception. We now have a under performing (compared to his previous feats) Salah on huge wages with very little sell on value. It surprises me that the same people calling for 35 midfielders to be added to the squad refuse to acknowledge selling players like Salah, Firmino etc.


18.) 09 Feb 2023 06:08:32
Stuie, my argument is that football is a game of 11, and aside from Alisson and Firmino (when fit), 8 others have not played well thus far this season. At least not to their usual standards. And any winger or forward needs the others to play well so that he too can do well. There are no physical signs that Salah has lost anything; just the entire team not gelling and playing well together, as in the past. So, am not sure it's right to take Salah's age and beat him with a stick for it, when the team as a whole is responsible.


 

 

 

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Whats next Firmino?,

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What I'm saying is, I can see FSG selling salah to psg, to replace Mbappe.

Then I think its not beyond the possibility that fSG go for Chiesa.

But saying I want that.

But there's certainly more chance of that then a straight swap,

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