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12 Jun 2023 20:49:10
Whispers of Chiesa . Salah to psg anyone?
1.) 12 Jun 2023 21:34:16
Chiesa, like most players, is not fit to lace Salah's boots. I'll keep the guy we have who's scoring 30 a season and should have the fitness to do so for at least another 2-3 years, ta.
2.) 12 Jun 2023 21:38:21
Not to mention Chiesa did his ACL 18 months ago and has scored 4 goals in all appearances since coming back. Salah scored more goals than that in April last season.
3.) 12 Jun 2023 21:43:27
PSG want Chiesa and Salah?
4.) 12 Jun 2023 22:29:40
Chiesa is finished at the top level. That ACL is going to be the cause of repeat injuries for the rest of his career. I doubt even we’d be stupid enough to sell Salah and attempt to replace him with a crock like Chiesa. There’s no price that makes him worth the risk.
5.) 12 Jun 2023 23:00:22
Cool fishing trip!
6.) 12 Jun 2023 23:50:59
I don’t think there’s any right sided attacker that gets us 30 goals a season that would come to us at present. Let’s be honest we very rarely even buy those sort of players, we usually make them. Chiesa isn’t the answer. I wouldn’t mind seeing if Olise or Eze could step up but Salah isn’t done for a couple of years yet.
7.) 13 Jun 2023 00:01:57
No TB2, they just want a cheese salad.
8.) 13 Jun 2023 06:41:38
‘Whispers of Chiesa’ sounds like a very subtle savoury snack.
9.) 13 Jun 2023 07:47:10
BBC claim that PSG are willing to sell Mbappe before his contract runs out, if that's true I think they will come for Salah over Kane, the question is will LFC sell and will Salah push for the sale.
10.) 13 Jun 2023 08:05:09
polecat it's a clear Salah/ Mbappe swap deal, wages won't be a prob.
11.) 13 Jun 2023 08:19:49
I think its misinterpreted, what PSG wants are Käse (cheese) and Salad.
12.) 13 Jun 2023 08:29:08
Think the only 1 who hits salah's numbers is mbappe. if there's no standup replacement i'd let Doak go at it as long as the money was put into improving other areas of the side like a gvardiol for example. but salah been sold should be an absolute last resort.
13.) 13 Jun 2023 08:36:33
Can’t we just bring a few of the kids in and bulk up the squad! Why get rid of our best attacker and replace with someone who clearly has not been the same player since injury! If he was that good juventus would keep him and play him, Doak should be given the chance to play, when he has been given the chance I have been very impressed with him! Very rough but boy does he get stuck in and causes teams problems being so direct, we can’t afford to keep buying these random players unless someone gets sold! We need another midfielder who can cover the right which seems to be thuram I would also like Kone or veiga as I would imagine fabs goes next year so be good to bed one of those two in while we can actually afford them! And when fabs leaves we have bajetic and either one of those mentioned above to compete. Also gives back our pressing capabilities, then a left sided defender to start pushing van dijk and hopefully taking his spot in the coming years. Forward line is complete in my eyes. Just my opinion.
14.) 13 Jun 2023 08:50:57
If salah does push for the move (which I hope he doesn’t) I’d go for mbeumo from Brentford. Always impressed me and plenty of room to grow. I expect this won’t be a popular opinion.
15.) 13 Jun 2023 11:04:58
Salah moving is the best solution for both parties imo. He is clearly a legend and will be remembered forever. But he was past his prime and doesn't deserve his huge wage. His finishing and dribbling are done. His shooting power and accuracy are worse than my 1st grade daughter's. What if in next 2 seasons he gets older and his form is still as disappointing as in the past 1.5 years? No one is bigger than this club, even Klopp and Salah. It isn't necessary to replace him with a player of the same level, our manager is smart enough to be able to adjust tactics without him in the squad.
16.) 13 Jun 2023 11:40:48
tab00, if your 1st grade daughter can shoot more powerfully and accurately than Salah, who has just scored 30+ goals for us for the 4th time in 5 seasons (IIRC) then she has a promising career ahead of her. You must be a very proud Daddy.
If only all of our teams form was as 'disappointing' as Salah's has been.
Sheesh!
17.) 13 Jun 2023 11:45:25
@tab00, I’d say you are right and it’s almost certain that Salah will get older in the next two years. Not sure about any of the other stuff you wrote though.
18.) 13 Jun 2023 12:07:51
WDW, he could be 'Mo Button' or 'Benjamin Salah'
19.) 13 Jun 2023 12:10:12
Just ignore my joke Zed. His record stats will last for a long time. But Salah-before-AFCON2022 has gone. We need to prepare to move on without him.
20.) 13 Jun 2023 12:44:37
I think there is every chance Mo pushes for the move. He currently has no CL football next season and certainly not guaranteed in the future with the competitive nature of the PL. If he moves to PSG, he is pretty much guaranteed CL football for the rest of his career, a league title each season and possibly the odd cup win too. That coupled with the no doubt enormous wages they'd offer, it almost seems ideal for him moving towards the last few years of his career.
21.) 13 Jun 2023 13:07:28
I don't disagree with succession planning tab, but we've got quite a few gaps right now, and Salah ain't one of them. He may be in 1-2 seasons time but who knows a) how the other 4 attackers develop and b) how Elliot/ Doak or others from the youth set up are able to step up too.
22.) 13 Jun 2023 13:07:28
I don't disagree with succession planning tab, but we've got quite a few gaps right now, and Salah ain't one of them. He may be in 1-2 seasons time but who knows a) how the other 4 attackers develop and b) how Elliot/ Doak or others from the youth set up are able to step up too.
23.) 13 Jun 2023 14:32:48
Mess with Salah on this chat group at your peril, tabOO. I've tried. I'm still recovering.
24.) 13 Jun 2023 15:05:30
Not just Salah. I think mess with any of the players that deliver 30+ goals a season.
Oh, hang on!
25.) 13 Jun 2023 18:04:10
Sure. It's a convincing argument. But It's also not a zero sum game, Zeddicus. It doesn't mean we necessarily lose 30 goals plus if lose Salah. It could also mean we gain 20 plus goals elsewhere, more evenly spread, and finish 4th.
26.) 13 Jun 2023 17:56:04
What I'm saying is, I can see FSG selling salah to psg, to replace Mbappe.
Then I think its not beyond the possibility that fSG go for Chiesa.
But saying I want that.
But there's certainly more chance of that then a straight swap,
27.) 13 Jun 2023 18:59:00
Going for Chiesa would be dumb. You’d be just as well to set fire to a pile of £50 notes. A 30 something Salah is better and more reliable than a completely broken Chiesa.
28.) 13 Jun 2023 19:17:49
Agreed. He's not necessarily completely broken but he surely is no longer the guy who tore up the Euros.
11 Apr 2023 21:42:22
Whats all this Tchouameni instead of bellingham.
04 Apr 2023 22:15:51
Ed2,
Any update on the SD?
{Ed002's Note - I gave an update earlier in the week but am not sure of changes since then.}
1.) 05 Apr 2023 12:00:34
Whenever I see "SD", I get a traumatic reminder of Stewart Downing.
2.) 05 Apr 2023 12:38:49
FPF, every time I've watched Andy Robertson this season I've had a traumatic reminder of Stewart Downing.
3.) 05 Apr 2023 12:46:48
Whose SD? I can’t work it out ha.
4.) 05 Apr 2023 12:47:09
Do you mean sporting director?
5.) 05 Apr 2023 17:23:17
Lazy posting.
6.) 05 Apr 2023 18:13:32
My dirty mind thought SD meant Sexual Disease!
7.) 05 Apr 2023 18:32:29
Sean Dyche?
8.) 05 Apr 2023 20:06:26
Surely SD is code for Sude Dellingham. All those looking for news on Bellingham, you haven’t been searching right. All the info is under Sude Dellingham, or SD for short ?.
9.) 06 Apr 2023 08:31:18
More like scooby doo.
26 Aug 2015 17:00:44
Rumours of Lucas staying now, please let this be true ! Is this because of Hendos injury ed?
{Ed001's Note - no it was always in the balance, he loves it at the club.}
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31 Dec 2024 23:56:14
Question for ed1 if I may.
It's been such a tough time for all you eds with ed2 passing.
I was wondering if you could take the time to recount how you two first met? (I know you never met in person) But how he came to become an editor?
Id love to know more of the history.
Apologies if this has been asked, answered, or is just too painful to talk about.
Love to all tonight.
{Ed001's Note - it was simple really, he used to be a poster on the site, back when it was just one site. We had a disagreement about Liverpool's financial state, as I couldn't believe it was as bad as he said it was. But he turned out to be correct and we got talking, then emailing about general stuff, as I was curious about the name he chose etc. We became friends, I would say anyway, he might have said different, and was giving me advice about editing and helping, so I asked if he wanted to help with the editing. He was always there with advice and info.}
1.) 01 Jan 2025 10:31:58
What was the name he chose Ed?
{Ed001's Note - Sharkey, which is why his podcasts were named Sharkopods. As I love sharks, it was a convo starter. Turned out he loved sharks as well.}
2.) 01 Jan 2025 11:01:34
I remember Sharkey the poster back in the day. Never knew he turned into ed002.
3.) 01 Jan 2025 11:47:43
The basic things I know about footie finances and how transfers work and it's in's and out's are due to the late, great ex Rodeo Clown a. k. a Ed02.
In some ways, he changed my footballing life with his knowledge and grace he showed to always share his knowledge with us, when appropriate. I also knew when to shut up whenever he responded with his patented, "This is why we do not discuss money on this site" or something like that, lol.
He is sorely missed.
4.) 01 Jan 2025 20:06:09
Sorely missed indeed Oli, thanks for that Ed. Appreciate the insight. Happy New Year.
{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. HNY to you too, I hope 2025 is a good one for you.}
16 Nov 2024 12:47:24
Can't believe this news. This site will never be the same Rest in peace Ed 2.
25 Aug 2024 17:34:05
I wouldn't like to see Everton go down, but I really fear for them this season.
1.) 25 Aug 2024 18:31:48
Completely agree. Would hate to see them go down. Thankfully for them, there are 34 games for them to turn it around (I don't want any points taken off us)
2.) 25 Aug 2024 18:32:20
hopefully when they get JB back they'll be fine? I mean he is the next Virgil according to ed025 and the Utd fans.
3.) 25 Aug 2024 23:55:11
Everton are bang in trouble and I couldn’t care less. They’ll get exactly what they deserve.
As for JB, he’s the next Harry Maguire/ Phil Jones waiting to happen. A decent defender in a rubbish side that will struggle to make the step up.
13 Jun 2023 17:57:18
Chiesa or somebody of that ilk, aka, a poor or much cheaper replacement.
Its very obvious Salah would go in a heartbeat.
1.) 13 Jun 2023 18:19:00
Chiesa has injury issues, we should stay away.
2.) 13 Jun 2023 18:25:23
Not sure if true but I’m sure I read somewhere the other day Salah had more goals and assists last season than Bobby, Gakpo (LFC) Jota, Nunez and Diaz combined.
You could probably add our midfielders into it as well and he’d still be ahead.
3.) 13 Jun 2023 18:45:39
The attraction of new shiny objects is simply too iressistable with certain sections of the fanbase. The grass is not only greener on the other side, must be glittering like gold.
4.) 13 Jun 2023 19:02:02
Salahs been willing to go in a heartbeat since the day he signed but he's that bad a player no one will take him off our hands apparently.
5.) 13 Jun 2023 20:20:04
Isn’t Salah contracted to the club for a couple of years yet? The club don’t have to let him go. Of course if anybody offers silly money then (if it were my choice) I’d take it, but that’s a matter for the club, not Salah or, more likely, his agent. As I say the decision to keep or release any contracted player belongs to the club and not the player.
{Ed025's Note - moder day slavery?..
6.) 13 Jun 2023 21:02:03
Pre injury Chiesa? Definitely. Post injury? I think Chiesa needs to show he can come back to where he wzas before such a devastating knee injury.
7.) 14 Jun 2023 08:07:02
It’s not a bad world when slaves earn £ 300,000 a week.
8.) 14 Jun 2023 09:42:26
WDW3, the only thing one can compare to slavery, is slavery itself and nothing else let alone comparing it to “slavery” where you get paid tens of thousands of pounds kicking a ball around. Just my take.
9.) 14 Jun 2023 10:35:33
I actually had a couple of replies before the £ 300,000 reply that didn’t make it onto the forum when I posted them. It’s fair to say that I would ‘strongly agree’ with you opinion.
10.) 14 Jun 2023 03:53:32
Interesting definition of slavery Ed02.
Salah was offered a contract which he chose to sign. I believe the contract provides him with a sum of £ 300,000 over week, which isn’t too bad for a slave.
Would Valverde be considered a slave at Real Madrid, as you mentioned on the a transfer page that Real Madrid don’t want to sell him.
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you are talking about.}
11.) 14 Jun 2023 11:25:26
WDW you’ve replied to Ed0002 instead of Ed0025.
12.) 13 Jun 2023 23:16:34
Slap dab on the money Ed02 - we stuck a gun to his head and said sign this £ 300k a week contract, slave.
{Ed025's Note - I was just making the comparison because you said we own him mate..
13.) 14 Jun 2023 20:33:22
Apologies Ed02 - second ‘old person’ moment this week. I might need to go and see someone about my short term whatsitsname ?
And fair enough Ed25. - not only should read what’s there in print I should also take the time to check the meaning of what’s written too.
It is with great pleasure that I shall impose a ban on myself from the forum for the next couple of weeks.
{Ed025's Note - i dont think there is the need for that WDW, but maybe posting a bit less frequent may help you mate...and i mean that in the nicest possible way..
14.) 14 Jun 2023 21:05:08
WDW you’d sell our best player who has the highest number of goals and assists for the last few seasons now and replace him with who? Elliot.
23 Apr 2023 22:12:23
I think Jota is the best finisher in the team.
Doesn't always link well, struggles at times to complete a pass.
But the best finisher, I think.
Fire away.
1.) 23 Apr 2023 22:54:59
I’d Probably go with the fella who’s just equalled sixth on Liverpools all time scoring list myself molby ?.
2.) 23 Apr 2023 23:20:04
LFC8, the man gets no respect at all, I tell you. He's done it with 71 games played less too, and yet people are rambling on and on about how the game has changed in 20 years so you can't compare. Really? Like what has changed? The size of the ball? The size of the goalposts? The sizes of the fields? Or is it the human species that has evolved in those 20 years and we have more arms and legs now, or something? ?.
3.) 24 Apr 2023 03:00:45
I think Jota is in a purple patch right now but on a usual day, his finishing is quite poor. He usually misses a few chances before one finally goes into the net. Even against Forest, he missed with a header that he should have scored from. But he did ultimately score two so he more than made up for that miss.
Don't get me wrong though, he works hard for the team and deserves the goals he has been getting. He is also on form right now and deserves to start matches based on that. But I don't think he is the best finisher we have in the team.
4.) 24 Apr 2023 05:36:12
I think that's a bit prisoner of the moment.
5.) 24 Apr 2023 05:51:24
For me, none of the forwards we have are world class finishers. In fact, except Origi we haven't had one in the past 5-6 years. But that didn't stop us from winning everything, since we generally create a ton of chances.
@LiverpoolFC8, Salah is a wonderful player and a legend for us, but his finishing is very inconsistent. He can score the most outrageous goals, and then miss easy ones. For me, Sturridge was the last great finisher who played consistently for us.
6.) 24 Apr 2023 09:18:18
I’m sure someone will be able to put up a goals per shot conversion and maybe a goals per minute ratio against Salah, Darwin etc ?.
7.) 24 Apr 2023 09:26:18
Origi a world class finisher? Is it April the 1st already? Talk about red tinted glasses!
8.) 24 Apr 2023 09:52:56
Origi? love it??.
9.) 24 Apr 2023 10:07:45
Origi, although he scored some important goals, he wasn't a world class finisher. In fact, most of the time he had his 50p shaped shooting boots on!
10.) 24 Apr 2023 11:04:22
It's an interesting discussion whether a player can be world class at a specific skill in football. Klopp once said Origi was the best finisher at the club to be fair. Whether or not that made him a world class finisher is up for debate though. I'd say he wasn't myself.
Personally i think the last truly world class finisher we had was Suarez, and before that Torres. In my opinion you have to be consistently burying 1 in 4 chances on either foot or with your head to even be considered for the accolade of a world class finisher. However Salah is proof you can make up for a lack of efficiency in front of goal by just being relentless and continually getting into scoring positions until it eventually comes.
Jota is probably the best in the current squad with that in mind but i don't think he's a 1 in 4 shots player. Origi was similar. Good with both feet and his head but not clinical enough to be a world class finisher.
Haaland and Kane are probably the only world class finishers in the Prem right now. We have to be realistic about it. Jota is a good player (when fit) currently in good form, but he's not world class at anything.
11.) 24 Apr 2023 12:06:19
From what I remember now, Origi used to finish the good chances he got. His problem, imo, was not finishing the chances, but getting them in the first place. His movement was quite poor, and he would often be in positions from where you wouldn't expect someone to really score.
To add to your point @MKS, Eddie Nketiah is another really good finisher. But again, his overall game is much poorer as compared to Jesus.
12.) 24 Apr 2023 12:43:11
Jota is definitely the best finisher we have at the club right now. He has the added benefit of being comfortable with both feet. His weakness is the rest of his game and of course injuries.
Harry Kane, as much as I dislike him, is the best out there. I am not sure how natural Haaland is, given he was grown in a lab. We'll see how he fares when he loses his speed and explosiveness.
You wonder whether the those naturally talented finishers still have a pathway in modern football given the huge focus on pressing, running and the importance of wide forwards in most tactical systems.
It would be a shame if the next Robbie Fowler's couldn't find a way into the game to do what they are naturally talented at.
13.) 24 Apr 2023 18:16:51
I don’t know who said it, but I seem to remember a quote along the lines of ‘putting the ball into the net is the hardest part of the game, everything else can be coached’.
14.) 24 Apr 2023 18:41:32
Irish, you asked and here it is. Goals per game ratio in the PL (the only thing I could find) :
Player Appnces Goals Goals per Games Ratio
Fernando Torres 102 65 0.637
Mohamed Salah 211 134 0.635
Luis Suarez 110 69 0.627
Michael Owen 216 118 0.546
Robbie Fowler 266 128 0.481
Sadio Mané 196 90 0.459
Daniel Sturridge 116 50 0.431
Stan Collymore 61 26 0.426
Diogo Jota 69 28 0.406
Darwin Nunez 25 9 0.360
Cody Gakpo 14 5 0.357
You can come up with a lot of conclusions; I'll let everyone come up with their own.
{Ed025's Note - good stuff ArAy....cheers mate..
15.) 24 Apr 2023 19:27:06
Welcome Ed025. The true champion is still undeniably Ian Rush. He had a goals per game ratio of 0.524 (that's Owen and Fowler levels) for Liverpool. But he did it with 346 goals over 660 games for Liverpool; which is massive. Longevity of performance for a sportsman is an undervalued criterion and not appreciated enough. (Rush is not on the list because it's for the EPL only, and if I included Rush then I would have to include those who came before him) .
{Ed025's Note - i loved rushy ArAy, started the concept of defending from the front and would have been a dream for the klopp era, i did dislike him scoring against us of course but had huge respect for the guy mate..
16.) 24 Apr 2023 20:52:44
Rush scores 1 rush scores 2 rush scores 3 and rush scores 4 la la la la la la, was you at goodison that night ed .
{Ed025's Note - yes mate unfortunately, he scored loads against us hailstones and at the time i hated him, but when i got older i realized i didn.t really hate him...i just disliked him intensely mate.. :)
17.) 24 Apr 2023 21:07:55
And here I was thinking only our World class finisher, Divock Origi, gave you nightmares, Ed025. LOL. ?.
{Ed025's Note - i quite liked divock actually ArAy, nice guy who played with a smile on his face, absolute gash footballer mind.. :)
18.) 24 Apr 2023 21:48:45
He was great rushie ed, but even better than rushie was dixie dean, just imagine him and haaland going head to head for the golden boot these days.
{Ed025's Note - i never actually seen the great dixie hailstones but he certainly has legendary status mate, 60 goals in a season will never happen again i imagine, he makes haaland look like diego jota mate.. :)
19.) 24 Apr 2023 23:42:46
Hahahaha you strike again ed, dixie way before my time but since a young lad i have known about the 60 goals in the season which was immense.
20.) 25 Apr 2023 07:26:57
I wouldn’t be so dismissive of the game has changed argument ArAy.
That being said it depends on what era you are taking about. If you are saying 20 years then I would largely agree with you but I’d say go back from mid 90s to anything earlier and there is definitely a discussion to be had.
21.) 25 Apr 2023 11:59:09
Wassa, there's always a discussion to be had when comparing not only eras, but age groups, leagues, continents and quite a few other criteria. My context was simply that Salah does not get enough credit; people are very dismissive of the magnitude of what he has done. If we use only goals scored per game, he's up there with some of the best in the history of the club. And he's a winger, not even a striker or center field forward.
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16 Jan 2025 19:20:17
Brilliant Bob. Don't know if your a new poster or just a new name.
But you're a great addition!
27 Aug 2024 20:08:35
Diaz has been great the first 2 matches.
08 Jul 2024 21:15:52
Akira knows his stuff -.
17 Jun 2024 00:03:02
Oli - your post, Very funny, very patronising and very wrong!
31 Aug 2023 15:59:50
Beckers! I fully burst out laughing at that!
molbyslostgoal's banter replies
02 Jan 2025 23:52:53
Jesus lads we've 1 title in 35 years. People in glass houses and all that.
02 Jan 2025 23:46:55
"Doesn't matter if he misses 20 chances he will still take the next one ". WTF lad?
I'm with Babbitty. The mind set is not there. I wish it was. But it's not.
He's not going to make it.
01 Jan 2025 20:06:09
Sorely missed indeed Oli, thanks for that Ed. Appreciate the insight. Happy New Year.
{Ed001's Note - thanks mate. HNY to you too, I hope 2025 is a good one for you.}
27 Nov 2024 23:47:03
It will never be the same, Ed 2 was funny in a funny way, funny in a cutting kind of way, funny in a bat rubbish crazy way, extremely knowledgeable and so much more.
But. We have to go on, Ed 1 is here, and the other guys, all excellent.
We will find a "new normal" eventually, it will take time to find this, but who wants to rush it, I for one do not.
Ed2 and his memory need to be cherished, as there is nobody like him and never will be.
In the meantime the eds just need to muddle through somehow, and the rest of us will be here, waiting, connecting, supporting.
That's all we can do.
Again ed1, please pass the love of all on this site to Ed2s family.
Rob.
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate. I will do that.}
25 Nov 2024 19:56:32
Ed 1 likes him, that's put the Mockers on us signing him so! ?.