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22 Apr 2024 15:17:41
Over on the old internet it’s being said Liverpool are no longer in for Amorim and West Ham want him. Who therefore are we goi g for Ed’s?
{Ed002's Note - Ruben Amorim will still be first choice but the club and his agents could not come to any understanding. Kovac representatives have spoken with Liverpool. }
1.) 22 Apr 2024 16:59:49
I hope that was a short conversation with Kovac’s agent. His time at Wolfsburg was a disaster and he fell out with almost the entire squad. Not someone suitable for the job.
2.) 22 Apr 2024 17:17:21
Hi Ed 2
What kinds of things would they potentially disagree on? Is it transfers or salary etc?
{Ed002's Note - Typically responsibilities - salary won’t be a problem but Klopp still being involved in the transfer decisions might be - not for the first time.}
3.) 22 Apr 2024 17:35:47
Is there any new names that the club is considering? Other than the usual Amorim, De Zerbi or this Kovac guy. It doesn't look good if you're messing around with your preferred choice.
4.) 22 Apr 2024 18:03:56
It would suck not to get Amorim in my view. Prefer him personally to Arne Slot.
But the proof will be in the pudding. Just hope the club gets it right.
5.) 22 Apr 2024 18:17:34
Ed, can you expand on Klopp's continued involvement with transfers as a lame duck manager. Not surprising to hear this.
{Ed002's Note - The targets are Hunter, Klopp and Fallows targets.}
6.) 22 Apr 2024 18:26:16
Ed2. I am trying to understand this. I have previously asked why Klopp still has involvement in future transfer decisions, despite being on the way out. You informed me it’s because his opinion is valued. But, if we really wanted Amorim or another manager for that matter and this is causing problems in appointing them - then I’m scratching my head as to why Edwards and Hughes would allow that to continue. Wouldn’t common sense mean they would put a stop to that completely? I mean, great manager and legend he is, that is not in doubt. But talent spotting has reportedly never been his strong point. If I’m missing something here let me know because to me, it doesn’t make sense.
{Ed002's Note - Edwards and to a lesser extent Hughes do not pick the players. Hunter and Fallows do.}
7.) 22 Apr 2024 23:44:55
Isn’t Hughes employed by Bournemouth still?
{Ed002's Note - Yes, see above.}
8.) 23 Apr 2024 03:54:05
Ed2,do you reckon a compromise can be reach between Liv and Amorim? Or has that ship sail? Doesn't like it if we were messing with our preferred choice.
{Ed002's Note - Ruben Amorim (C) Manchester United may still offer an option - another option will be Liverpool, but he knows he was not first choice - but I think they will still move for him with Alonso not interested and I think he would be a good choice and a good fit, but persuading him to leave Sporting may be difficult. I understand that there was no clear understanding between the club and his agent regarding the scope of his responsibilities and Liverpool will need to be flexible. Do not rule out Barcelona but Deco has a preferred option whilst the board want to persuade Xavi to stay or to move quicky for Amorim. If needs force the situation and given the likely link between the club and Sporting, Chelsea may start pushing having spoken with Amorim before. West Ham spoke with his agent and Sporting to allow them to talk directly to Amorim, but it would seem an unlikely move for me and probably not one he would be keen on. They have a project to sell but will likely need to revert to the other potential replacements for Moyes that they have identified. Newcastle may offer a wildcard option and will pay the termination clause and the cost of terminating his staff but they again will not be an attractive option. Bayern Munich may also see Amorin as an option as they too struggle but he is not currently top-of-the-list for them.}
9.) 23 Apr 2024 17:24:15
Don’t think this one is too difficult to decipher. There seems to be a list of players we’d likely target and by the sounds of it, Klopp has had some input into that.
Rightly, a new manager would want to have some input over new signings when he takes over a new team.
Ed2 - sounds like the issue is more to do with the incoming players this summer rather than what I’ve read elsewhere makes it sound like Amorim would have no input in recruiting for the duration of his contract?
{Ed002's Note - Coaches generally want and input unless in Italy.}
20 Apr 2024 15:51:01
Ed2 are Liverpool actively courting the Saudi teams to bid for salah or is it his agent looking for the move?
{Ed002's Note - His agent is hawking him around for one last big payday - Saudi Pro League with the support of Michael Emenalo would certainly seem the most likely destination with Al-Ittihad.}
1.) 21 Apr 2024 05:02:15
Salah is KSA bound 100% but don’t expect to see bids of £150m as we did last summer.
2.) 21 Apr 2024 06:41:13
Take whatever we can get for him. Anything above £50m would be great.
3.) 21 Apr 2024 08:37:29
We will get well over £50m.
4.) 21 Apr 2024 00:07:48
Ed you're a fountain of knowledge thank you.
5.) 21 Apr 2024 08:09:37
Just out of interest eds2 how much is Salah worth now. I understand if you don’t want to get into it?
{Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}
6.) 21 Apr 2024 10:24:08
Just a 7 season wonder giving his knees a rest and his ability to build hospitals in Egypt a boost. let's hope he goes out with a bang, rather than a whimper.
7.) 21 Apr 2024 10:34:52
If I was on 350k a week I’d be actively looking for one last big day also.
Modern day struggles these footballers face daily.
8.) 21 Apr 2024 12:43:06
Still think he’s too good for Saudi.
9.) 21 Apr 2024 13:15:25
I’d get rid of any of Jota Nunez Diaz Gakpo before Salah.
10.) 21 Apr 2024 13:28:24
Thing is Liverpoolfc08, Saudi is the only place we’d get top dollar for him and as it’s fairly clear now that he’s in decline I think we have to take the money and move on.
11.) 21 Apr 2024 20:05:08
Jota has 1 goal for every 4 shots at goal taken. Salah has 1 goal for every 10 shots at goal taken. This season.
I love Salah but wanting Jota to leave before Salah is madness. Or simply having no idea how winning football works over an entire season.
12.) 21 Apr 2024 20:48:05
One kiss really? I mean really?
13.) 21 Apr 2024 21:11:25
Salah has been a phenomena but I’m definitely in the camp of getting money in for him this summer and bringing in another top quality forward.
14.) 21 Apr 2024 21:46:21
Imagine the fee will be over £50m but less than 100m.
15.) 21 Apr 2024 22:58:19
Some hawking outa his agent these last 7 years.
16.) 22 Apr 2024 00:25:38
It’s the most sensible time to sell.
New coaching staff, new system, Salah has lost his pace, every opponent knows it.
The new coach needs time to develop his system, he might not need Salah demanding the ball. It might be easier to bring new faces in.
Sell whilst the going is good.
17.) 22 Apr 2024 05:05:29
Agree with fuser I think the fee will between 50m and 80 mill, still not a bad price.
18.) 22 Apr 2024 06:17:04
Agree with Ron, this summer is a good opportunity for a clean break.
19.) 22 Apr 2024 08:49:22
I think it's time to let him go and I never thought I would say that 3 months ago.
20.) 22 Apr 2024 10:45:08
Jude I'd imagine his agent can't wait to retire. Probably the most overworked agent in the last 7 years lol.
21.) 22 Apr 2024 13:25:19
For the record, Salah has a 24% conversion rate (19% without penalties) .
Jota has a 29% conversion rate, so yes a better finisher on paper and also in my subjective opinion from watching the two play.
Source: BBC Sport
Don't let the truth get in the way of a good old dressing down of a Liverpool legend though. "1 in 10" haha. It's fractionally off being 1 in 4.
Generally agree though, right time to sell Salah this summer. Just don't think we need to lie to justify it.
22.) 22 Apr 2024 16:28:25
I’m not sure that’s right MK for this season, in the league anyway. 93 shots on PL website, 17 goals (both including pens) is a 18% rate. Take off the 5 pens and he’s down to 12%.
23.) 22 Apr 2024 16:54:47
Watching salah reminds me of gerrard in his last season with us . He offers nothing it’s like he’s getting picked from past achievements. Shame as well because he’s one of our greatest ever players, but all good things come to an end. At least we saw the best of him.
24.) 22 Apr 2024 16:36:49
Salah has never had a 1 in 10 conversion he’s been around 1 in 5 since he signed. He’s comfortably better than Nunez Diaz Jota and Gakpo he scores more and sets up more than most players in the world let alone those 4. He’s missed less games in 7 seasons than the others have in half that time. If we need to sell forwards he’d be the last to go. Every single season Salah has a couple of games not at his best we hear this nonsense about needing to sell him and then he makes anyone saying it look foolish every single time.
22 Feb 2024 19:21:31
Hi Ed2 hope you are well. What are your thoughts on who might be the next manager of LFC?
{Ed002's Note - I think top of the list will be Alonso, but as I have said he has other options and the push to stay if he wis the Bundesliga will be tough to overcome. He like Nagelsmann will have the support of Klopp. A popular choice for clubs and having a great season at Bayer Leverkusen, but very inexperienced, although there will be interest in him from Liverpool, Barcelona, Bayern Munich, Chelsea and Manchester United. Has made no secret of a desire to follow Ancelotti at Real Madrid - but that won't be until 2026 so they can be discounted at this time although he has the support of Carlo Ancelotti. Klopp has endorsed both Alonso and Nagelsmann. If he were to win the league this season it would likely make it very difficult for him to leave and there would be significant pressure to stay. There are no clauses in his contract allowing him to leave to join any other club.
Julian Nagelsmann (C) Contracted until the Euros are finished in the summer - talented and perhaps should not be discounted for the Liverpool job. May be a shrewd choice for Liverpool and will have the support of Klopp.
Roberto de Zerbi (C) Brighton would fight to keep him but another who will certainly be discussed by Barcelona, Liverpool and Manchester United with Jim Ratcliff having an interest in him. A significant issue exists in the cost of Brighton releasing him.
Zinedine Zidane (C) I understand an advisor has told Liverpool not to discount Zindane after discussions over another job for him are delayed pending a change of club ownership. I think unlikely for Liverpool - wildcard would be Bayern Munich.
Ruben Amorin (C) Manchester United may offer an option - a wildcard may be Liverpool, but down the list.}
1.) 22 Feb 2024 21:10:27
Any chance of Klopp changing his mind given how happy and energetic he’s looked recently.
{Ed002's Note - I would rather doubt it.}
2.) 22 Feb 2024 21:19:10
Alonso has made no secret of the fact that his ambition is to manage Liverpool. There are multiple videos to highlight this.
3.) 22 Feb 2024 21:20:05
Also his family are Liverpool supporters.
4.) 22 Feb 2024 22:26:06
When he wins the league realistically he would have achieved all he can so why stay when when the stars have aligned for him to come lfc witch mite not happen again.
5.) 22 Feb 2024 22:32:12
Not saying he is 100% coming but, if he wins the league I think that makes it easier to leave not harder. Secondly, he has openly said in multiple interviews which anyone can find on YouTube of his desire to manage Liverpool one day. Also that Liverpool is his second home and that it hold the fondest memories of him as player due to it being a family and not just a club. And as Mark08 has pointed out, he has said his family (sons) support Liverpool. Anything can happen in football but if we go for him it will be extremely difficult for him to turn us down.
6.) 22 Feb 2024 22:56:16
Alonso is the only one out of that list I’d want, the rest I’d hope never ever manage us.
7.) 23 Feb 2024 00:31:12
Alonso’s past videos or his endearment for Liverpool has nothing to do with where he ends up in a professional capacity. From a sentiment point of view, all the clubs he has played for is a possible option for him to pick from so why does it make Liverpool an obvious choice given that the other clubs are equally massive brands? Also, we have been down this road of someone being a fan of Liverpool and idolising Liverpool players only for them to choose other clubs when it comes to a professional decision (cough Bellingham) .
I personally would love Alonso to be at Liverpool come next season, but this narrative of ‘it’s nailed on because there are few YT videos floating around’ is far from reliable.
I for one will just wait and watch and hope I am surprised just like when we had appointed Klopp (which I honestly hadn't expected FSG to pull off)
8.) 23 Feb 2024 07:37:08
Interesting article on the BBC (don't think that I am allowed to post the link), which posted the results of an analytics company into who would be most suited to take over from Klopp. In order of suitability, the results were:
Amorim
Nagelsmann
Tuchel
Postecoglou
Alonso
de Zerbi
Maybe if Madrid are so keen on Alonso, a deal can be done, with Ancelotti taking over at Anfield? Just joking, I think but I have always wondered how Ancelotti would have done as the Liverpool manager.
9.) 22 Feb 2024 23:20:42
Ed2, will the club be speaking to the potential candidates now or will we wait until the season has ended? it'd make sense for us to start speaking to them now but kind of disrespectful to the other clubs I'd of thought?
{Ed002's Note - The club cannot approach individuals without the permission of their clubs but they can talk to agents.}
10.) 23 Feb 2024 03:59:15
Do you expect Liv to appoint a SD first before deciding who is going to replace Klopp Ed? And do you see us appointing one before the end of the season? Not going to lie, its been really quiet on the SD front and I'm afraid we are going into the next summer without a SD and a manager thus no plan on transfer and squad management for next season.
{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer about timescales.}
11.) 23 Feb 2024 08:24:05
That list on the BBC is way wrong. Alonso is head and shoulders above the rest in that list Kloppite and it’s not even close.
Amorim - No thanks, nothing special about him, hasn’t taken Sporting to a European tournament win, winning in Portugal with one of the teams who usually win doesn’t feel like much of an achievement.
Nagelsmann - Absolutely no, Brendan Rodgers vibes. Poor judgement. Dodgy tactics. Lost respect of his players really quickly.
Tuchel - Failed at PSG, failed at Chelsea, failed at Bayern and failed at Dortmund. Absolutely no.
Postecoglou - His comments after the infamous match at Spurs should rule him out right away. Again, nothing special as a manager, Spurs is his level.
de Zerbi - No thanks, mid table manager, don’t see anything special there. he can stay at Brighton.
As for Ancelotti being an Everton man should rule him out straight away.
12.) 23 Feb 2024 08:39:18
I've missed the VVVV rants about how everyone is rubbish. You must spend every hour watching different leagues to know so much.
13.) 23 Feb 2024 08:43:22
It's a bit of fun, I think, VV. All valid points that you make, although I disagree regarding Ancelotti. I have no issue with the links to Everton but then I am from an era, when there was no animosity towards our neighbours and I still hold true to those values. Life's too short.
14.) 23 Feb 2024 11:24:52
Alonso
Nagelsmann
Amorim
In that order. The rest of the list leaves me cold.
15.) 23 Feb 2024 12:23:24
VV you are missing the point entirely. The BBC article was based on a data driven assessment by an analytics company using various different models to assess compatibility to Klopps style and ability as a manager. There were also some caveats regarding limited data with Alonso.
I'm sure you could get in touch with the company and tell them they're wrong without providing any sort of thought process behind it.
16.) 23 Feb 2024 14:18:58
Like everyone Alonso would be my preferred choice but I don't get VV point calling Nagelsman crap. he really isn't. the blip at Bayern to me seemed to be behind the scenes stuff he didn't match there culture and style maybe? from reading a bunch of stuff might not be true but he thought he was coming in and changing things a fresh approach but didn't get backed in the end if we end up with Alonso or Nagelsman I'd be very happy.
17.) 23 Feb 2024 14:19:45
It can only be Alonso or Amorin, at a push, Nagelsmann before Baryen would of been in the top 3 but he damaged himself sportingly there and his private life overshadowed him a touch.
18.) 23 Feb 2024 14:29:29
VV usually wins? The training ground was attacked and the club a shambles before he came in, he took them to the league while promoting 3 young players who have become excellent players, he should be second choice miles ahead of anyone else.
19.) 23 Feb 2024 14:33:57
Nagelsmann did well at Bayern but he was slipping info to his journalist girlfriend who dumped him once he got sacked.
Oh and I believe Neuer was causing issues for him which blew up when he got rid of Neuers goalkeeping coach I think? (i might be misremembering stuff) . But Neuer is a tit anyway. Think I recall him making a strop in the German national team when Ter Stegen burst on the scene and Neuer did not want his position under threat.
20.) 23 Feb 2024 15:41:31
FSGfleecing us, Sporting have won the Portuguese league 19 times, and generally finish in the top four. If he did a Mourinho and won a European trophy as well as a league title then maybe it might seem more impressive. As it is, a league title about 3 years ago doesn’t feel all that impressive. Plus Sporting really don’t want to do business with us (as anyone who reads these pages should recall) .
I’m absolutely against Nagelsmann, huge step down from Klopp, serious errors or judgement and massive Brendan Rodgers vibes. He’s the level of Tottenham ot Chelsea.
The recruitment has to be right, bar Alonso the pool of “talent” js so shallow it’s barely a puddle.
Kloppers, I remember that era too, unfortunately those days feel long gone never to return. So Ancelotti can never be a manager who would be welcome as his connection to Everton is too strong.
{Ed025's Note - his only connection to Everton VV is that he used them as a stepping stone mate, and as a way to enhance his pension..
21.) 24 Feb 2024 07:17:05
As much as I would like Alonso as manager it seems people think it’s nailed on which it isn’t, let’s wait and see.
22.) 24 Feb 2024 08:15:52
Feeeling a bit for some fans if it’s not Alonso. Sounds like anyone else will be worse then Hodgson.
23.) 24 Feb 2024 03:03:54
Good solid post Ed. Outside of Alonso, who do you think would adapt the best to being Liverpool manager? Or is that too hypothetical a question? Just interested in your gut feeling, as Klopp gets it but replicating that rapport with the club is difficult.
{Ed002's Note - Nagelsmann.}
24.) 24 Feb 2024 09:54:45
I wonder who else may be under consideration, besides the ones mentioned above? Surprised that Unai Emery and Diego Simeone's names do not seem to be in the frame and whilst highly unlikely, given his current role, somebody like Luciano Spalletti would be an interesting option.
{Ed002's Note - The club has taken advice and is down to a short-list - they will not want to look further unless they have to.}
25.) 24 Feb 2024 10:40:57
Wonder why are we not looking for more experienced managers like Emery Scaloni. Inzaghi etc. Imo it takes experience to manage Liverpool given it works best as an all encompassing football culture not just a manager.
{Ed002's Note - Filippo Inzaghi is a journeyman coach who has had a torrid time at Salernitana. Why would Liverpool look at him. They have taken advice and the advice has identified the best options for Liverpool moving forward.}
26.) 24 Feb 2024 12:01:44
As there has been talk of Alonso possibly being out next manager I have started to try and watch Leverkusen games
Very, very different style of football to what we have at the minute and potentially more skin in style (not formation) to Man City.
No doubt he’s a talented manager and coach as he’s made potentially ordinary looking players into a team unbeaten in 33 games?
Not to be sniffed at.
27.) 24 Feb 2024 16:12:19
Failing to win anything at Bayern is terrible on your record. Tuchel and Julians stock has fallen considerably in my eyes.
28.) 25 Feb 2024 02:52:47
Nagelsmann and Tuchel have both won the Bundesliga with Bayern, Random Red.
29.) 26 Feb 2024 10:52:20
@VV, You could say the same about dortmund and Klopps record before he came, the next manager needs to be more than just about trophy wins on a cv, he needs to get the place, Amorin got Sporting, he will get Liverpool too.
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27 Apr 2024 11:39:37
Great review ed1 have to say Klopp should
Of gone 2 years ago.
1.) 27 Apr 2024 12:12:05
I wonder after Klopp has left and is sitting somewhere quiet, reflecting on his time at Liverpool will he leap from his seat and shout „WAS ZUM TEUFEL HABE ICH GEMACHT, ALS ICH LIJNDERS ZUGEHORT HABE?! “ before he slumps back down in tears.
(what was I doing listening to Lijnders?! )
2.) 27 Apr 2024 12:37:14
What has Lijnders said to Klopp, polecat?
A quick Google about his Lijnders' tactics and I found this from 2023:
'We want to play with a lot of offensive aggression. You use that moment to attack again, because many times the opposition in this moment is not well organised. You want to play in the opposition half and stay there as long as possible, because it gives our front three the chance to express more often. '
It doesn't sound like someone wanting to play turgid football.
3.) 27 Apr 2024 13:00:12
Are you Ljinders? To think he isn't part of the problem is plain weird.
4.) 27 Apr 2024 13:14:10
Rigsby stop being an eye rolling contrarian.
Lijnders was taking credit for this inversted sh@te and talking about how he’d said to Klopp he was so confident it would work he’d bet his job on it.
We’ve just tried to copy was city do but a b&m bargains version of it.
5.) 27 Apr 2024 13:30:03
I'm not defending Lijnders; I'm asking what he said to Klopp.
Of course he's part of the problem because he's one of Klopp's assistants on the management team.
He's one of numerous reasons we are not as successful or playing as well as we have in the past. He's not the only reason and he doesn't have the overall say on the team and tactics, does he?
I don't know the workings of the management side and I'm asking what Lijnders said or did that made us stop playing heavy metal or high intensity football in the past two seasons?
6.) 27 Apr 2024 13:39:23
From a podcast he done. With the ball, Liverpool are now closer to a 3-4-3, with Alexander-Arnold playing alongside the defensive midfielder and Andy Robertson becoming a centre-back.
There remain flaws to the approach, as has been seen throughout pre-season and these early weeks of the new campaign, but its virtues were on show in an unbeaten end to 2022/ 23.
Speaking on the Training Ground Guru podcast, Lijnders revealed that it was his plan to change setup – and that he bet his salary on Alexander-Arnold’s role paying off!
7.) 27 Apr 2024 14:51:03
Thanks, Endo3 but that's not enough to put everything on Lijnders and it doesn't say he is telling Klopp to play boring, turgid football.
I'm not a fan of the right back drifting into midfield but the reasons we are not as good as were are far more wide reaching. The most obvious one for me is that we don't have the same players and the current ones are not of the same quality.
We have had the most shots of any team across the five top leagues in Europe. The conversion rate shows a lack of quality not attacking intent. We are also weaker defensively.
That said, Lijnders doesn't get a free pass as he is one of Klopp's assistants. They all have to take some responsibility for the squad rebuild and team selections and tactics.
8.) 27 Apr 2024 15:55:12
He basically says it was him. Look read what you want but that's from the horses mouth. You're just seeing what you want to see.
9.) 27 Apr 2024 16:01:08
We looked much more sound defensively with Gomez at left back and Bradley at right back.
10.) 27 Apr 2024 16:06:41
Before today’s game we had circa 80 more shots than the next team in Europe (Man City) . That tells me that the team is creating plenty of chances and giving the offensive players plenty of opportunity to score the goals required. The football isn’t as turgid as some would make out.
{Ed002's Note - Actually it means the players know where the stands are.}
11.) 27 Apr 2024 16:10:51
Rigsby, it is not Endo3 or Shaq Attack putting all this on Lijnders. It is Lijnders that is doing a bang up job of doing that all by his damn self, based on the information out there and the quotes you have posted. Just my take.
25 Apr 2024 19:16:54
All the moaning on here by grown adults is nothing short of embarrassing. The league title maybe out of reach, but calling for players heads to roll, and saying we need a complete rebuild or blaming player recruitment is plain stupid and a major over reaction.
Klopp leaves us in much better shape than he found us, but for me, Klopp has nothing left in the tank and should have probably called it quits at the end of last season.
Announcing it like he did mid season, has had a detrimental effect, the players are not focused, the tactics are horrible we have reverted back to the tactics that cost us last season, and there was no reason too.
A few tweaks, a few new players coming in and a new manager with new ideas is exactly what we need.
The season maybe over but we have a trophy in the bag none the less. Klopp will get a heroes goodbye and a well deserved one too at his final game but to claim there is nothing to be positive about going forward is stupid.
1.) 25 Apr 2024 20:08:14
Andyjh83, I think people are just really frustrated and disappointed as this season promised so much more than it did in preseason so the come-down is very hard to accept right now.
I love and share your positivity and optimism at the end of the day BUT, the reality is hard to take. For me, we went for the title and we have fallen short and we got to deal with that. Klopp may get a lot of the blame BUT I never forget that he is the reason we were able to challenge for these trophies (and win one in the most legendary of circumstances at Wembley) so I take the good with the bad cos at the ned of the day, you win some and you lose some. This is the absolute essence of sport, if not life itself.
2.) 25 Apr 2024 20:44:20
I think if we would have got top 4 last year he probably would have left, he looked tired then. He looks mentally fatigued now imo. This is where his coaches should be helping out. He looked happy and fresh earlier in the season but now I’m thinking it’s probably because he told FSG he was off and knowing he was going was a big release of stress.
3.) 25 Apr 2024 21:44:00
@ the op I couldn't disagree anymore. Obviously I appreciate your opinion but for me to be challenging for the title we need Salah Diaz Nunez replacements. Not to mention at least 2 decent central defenders. I'd personally try and replace Jones also.
I know this will annoy a few but for me Trent needs to go too.
I've no idea how long these replacements would take but we won't be challenging anytime soon in my opinion without new players.
4.) 25 Apr 2024 22:06:29
My position pre-season after w overhauled the midfield, was that top 4 would be expectation and anything else a bonus.
The added variable that Klopp announced his departure and the over-performance of the team shouldn’t detract from where the team is at.
And the way people talk about the team, it’s amazing anyone here thought these guys could win the title anyways.
People are obsessed with winning trophies so much. I think that ruins the game more than VAR does.
5.) 25 Apr 2024 22:54:41
Negative IMO, none of what you say has anything to do with the actual conversation on this thread esp. since we were NOT supposed to challenge for the title to begin with?
Hhence, all the players you wanted gone would NOT have been sold to fund a title challenge since like we all knew we were in a rebuild from the off and a title challenge was NEVR on the cards esp. after the preseason and recruitment drama we had. I propose you read the thread again and try to keep up cos you sound more like a "genius" ONLY after all the facts have been known than anything else. Just my take.
6.) 26 Apr 2024 00:02:28
We won’t be challenging anytime soon Negative? We have been challenging all season with the players you want rid of.
You really need to think before you type because that is one of the most idiotic statements I’ve ever heard.
7.) 26 Apr 2024 01:00:19
Ehhhhhh kinda. I am very glad Klopp stayed on to somewhat rectify the mess he had created. 3rd place and a cup is fine to be honest, despondent as we all are right now. We can build on that with a new manager.
Time for him to go but i think this is the perfect time, neither a season too early nor too late.
8.) 26 Apr 2024 07:10:38
Who said we were not supposed to challenge for the title? Klopp certainly didn’t.
9.) 26 Apr 2024 07:33:13
You're right, Faith.
When Klopp rebuilt the midfield at the start of the season with Mac, Endo, Szob and Grav I didn't think that they would turn us into title challengers. I'd never even heard of Endo and Szob and Grav couldn't get a game at Bayern. I also felt the front three was nowhere near the quality of the one that won the title and challenged for it more than once. I remember Newcastle away very early in the season, they were all over us and I thought it was going to be a very long season. Nunez, of course, scored two late goals to win us the game but we looked miles away from being title winners.
The fact that we did challenge for so long this season is down to Klopp. It doesn't end as we all wanted but it only started because of him.
10.) 26 Apr 2024 07:38:37
Oli stop proposing anyone do anything.
I’ve been to the moon the same amounts of times you’ve been to Anfield so I’m just as much an astronaut as you are this super fan you come across as.
11.) 26 Apr 2024 12:47:06
At Oli and pecker I am sorry If you didn't understand my post. I never said we would win the league. if you recall I predicted a top ten finish this season.
That's why I believe the players mentioned by me to be sold can help us towards funding a team that can challenge for the league.
24 Apr 2024 22:24:30
Well done to ed25 enjoy the win, fully deserved. Seasons over look forward to a new dawn.
{Ed025's Note - thanks Andy, i think we wanted it more mate..
1.) 24 Apr 2024 23:35:37
Agreed Ed25 you were 100% more hungry for it, and tbh it was deserved, you take a lot of flack on here from the red side but you’re always damn good with the banter. But best team won today.
I for one love the derby and don’t want Everton going down, 3 points in the board for you against your biggest rivals = a great night for Everton and a humbling night for us reds!
{Ed025's Note - it was a massive surprise to me Andy, how good we were and how bad the reds played, i expected nothing from tonight mate..but in the end the real Liverpool never turned up im afraid..
2.) 25 Apr 2024 03:00:38
Congrats Ed25, I hope this gives you soke solitude and for a few days at least you can hold your head up hig around town.
{Ed025's Note - i think thats us safe now John, its miles from the performance against Chelsea mate but you did make it easy for us..
3.) 25 Apr 2024 08:44:23
Last night was a horrible result but the performance was not great either, but these results have been coming we can't keep conceding the first goal and getting back into games. We looked a team that reflects our manager at the moment lack of energy and running on empty Injuries have caught up with us . I don't think anyone played well Diaz gave it a go and i thought Robertson was ok, Salah is really struggling and looks unfit plus we never seem to pass it to him anymore, But top 3 and a cup would have been accepted by all of us at the season start, hopefully the close season will reinvigorate everyone so let's keep going . YNWA oh and i have to say well done to that Blue team they wanted it more.
12 Apr 2024 17:23:04
Ed1 if Amron does come in what improvements do you think he could bring? Slower attacks meaning more chance of converting? No more inverted full backs? Playing with width?
I love Klopp and always will but it’s time to look to what happens next.
{Ed001's Note - he definitely plays with more width from the wing-backs. But is that the way he wants to play or the way he plays because of the squad he has? If he stays playing the way he does at Sporting, it will be a similar high octane press but rather than inverting a full-back to dominate the midfield, a centre-back steps forward into midfield to press high.}
1.) 12 Apr 2024 17:49:12
Hasn’t he denied any contact with Liverpool this week.
2.) 12 Apr 2024 20:06:09
JK, hopefully it's a Bill Clinton/ Lewinsky style denial.
3.) 12 Apr 2024 22:53:55
Wouldn't you expect him to deny it jk when they're on the verge of a double?
4.) 12 Apr 2024 23:11:57
Gmil I hope so as the options look quite slim pickings at the mo.
But wouldn’t it also mean Alonso is still on the table as he’s denied it and he is in similar circumstances.
Only difference is the media who are constantly criticised of knowing nothing and click baiting are reporting Alonso is off so are they believable for this.
5.) 13 Apr 2024 00:39:05
classy move from amorim to try and quieten the noise.
I mean he still have quite an important job to do right now.
6.) 13 Apr 2024 03:58:35
Stuie. R u saying there has been RELATIONS between lgc and amorion.? ?.
7.) 13 Apr 2024 09:07:36
He just said he hasn't met with anyone from Liverpool which is true apparently Liverpool have just spoken to his agent where as alonso has said he is staying where he is.
8.) 13 Apr 2024 09:51:06
Imagine if he doesn't come to us? then what? god help us if that's the case. Bad timing because as things stand there's not a lot of available good managers. I believe he will come but at the same time I believed Alonso would.
9.) 13 Apr 2024 10:10:10
Ed01, you could have a point regarding whether whether Amorim plays a back 3 more due to the players he has rather than due to his own preference. I say this cos Sebastian Coates is as we knew from his time at LFC or in the PL (with Sunderland) is as slow as a snail hence, prolly would get exposed in the 4 so he like many CB's who lack pace, are put in a back 3 to play the sweeper role so as not to leave him exposed out wide or in the middle in space.
10.) 13 Apr 2024 10:23:23
Same here Salah mate. Just crossing my fingers, toes and anything else that can be crossed that we secure Amorim. Because both him and Alonso are the standout candidates. But If Amorim who I’m completely sold on doesn’t come, then we are in a difficult position on the managerial front. Having said that, I believe he is coming and if reports are to be believed, he was personally Edward’s first choice. If that’s the case, Edwards will do everything in his power to get it done.
11.) 13 Apr 2024 12:53:54
I trust Edwards. We’re in good hands with him.
12.) 13 Apr 2024 13:31:29
Hopefully Gmil.
Apart from Amorim there’s no other real stand out options.
If we end up with Ange or Nagelsman then YouTube highlights streaming is going to take a massive hit.
13.) 13 Apr 2024 13:39:11
Agreed Alonso, I mean a small part of me still thinks it might be Alonso incoming but I know it's wishful thinking. a lot of IDs and buts but yeah we need Amorin in, funny thing is mate, I don't even know much about him but gone on what others have said on here so I'll trust that lol. Last thing we need is a de Zerbi kind of manager. As I said earlier, we're all out of options.
14.) 14 Apr 2024 08:51:15
I remember Rafa was an unexpected but welcome boy from the blue.
I wouldn’t mind something like that.
01 Apr 2024 13:27:27
Allison liverpools goat goalkeeper - there I’ve said it.
1.) 01 Apr 2024 14:01:34
Certainly the best backup goalie in the world when he returns from injury.
{Ed025's Note - Alisson is still miles better than Kelleher Jude, Caoimhin is a decent enough back up keeper though mate..
2.) 01 Apr 2024 14:03:24
In my lifetime (started supporting in 1990) completely agree mate.
3.) 01 Apr 2024 14:23:20
Surprised at you Ed??.
{Ed025's Note - im like Superman Jude...i always tell the truth mate.. :)
4.) 01 Apr 2024 18:19:46
Nope, Andyjh83. I said it weeks before you did so I win, lol.
5.) 01 Apr 2024 23:53:18
Ali is one of the best in the world, but misses far too many games, maybe promise keller 20 matches per season, and he might stay . problem solved maybe .
27 Apr 2024 12:10:30
I think the management know what they are doing in selecting slot. Managers get paid well to put up with the pressure I’m sure he will be fine. We have an excellent squad who need new ideas, I think people will be in for a surprise at what slot brings.
27 Apr 2024 11:56:36
If he’s good enough for ed2 he’s good enough for me.
13 Apr 2024 18:22:29
Load of nonsense, any manager who is worth their salt will want this job. If Amorim would rather stay at sporting then he’s not a manager worth his salt, so isn’t worth the LFC job.
02 Jan 2024 19:30:09
Lazy clickbait is all this is. His mums an LFC fan so
They put two and two together and get mbappe wages.
31 Dec 2023 11:28:37
I heard the entire team is leaving - at the end of the season for their summer break…. I broke it first mind you.
26 Apr 2024 20:55:49
Because we have not won the league means the fan boys aren’t happy, probably new generation keyboard warriors. No manager wins everything but with Klopp we are very much back as being the most successful team in England. Klopp has done so much for us and regardless of how the season ends, he will get the send off he deserves and will forever be a legend at LFC.
24 Apr 2024 23:35:37
Agreed Ed25 you were 100% more hungry for it, and tbh it was deserved, you take a lot of flack on here from the red side but you’re always damn good with the banter. But best team won today.
I for one love the derby and don’t want Everton going down, 3 points in the board for you against your biggest rivals = a great night for Everton and a humbling night for us reds!
{Ed025's Note - it was a massive surprise to me Andy, how good we were and how bad the reds played, i expected nothing from tonight mate..but in the end the real Liverpool never turned up im afraid..
23 Apr 2024 20:52:14
I think people are to quick to scream corruption after every var call is incorrect. They give the refs to much credit, there not smart enough to make a correct call never mind be able to hide thousands of pounds of bungs. Incompetence is the word people should be using, and it highlights the incompetence of the PGMOL for not getting the structure right at the top. Webb is out of his depth, the team of “elite” refs are all out of their league and it’s just the brown stuff rolling down hill and the fans have to suffer.
23 Apr 2024 09:20:35
Agree with ed1 excellent player but lacks an end product. And for all the club has done for Diaz and his dad a little bit of respect goes a long way, pity he’s forgotten about that in his push for his son to play in Spain.
21 Apr 2024 13:41:51
I don’t think there will be a parade for the league cup, but don’t right off what that win will do for the future talent we have who won’t that cup. It’s about winning finals and they did it, can only bode well and kick them on.
A new manager, new ideas and a new philosophy is exciting.
Losing Klopp will be hard but he’s done things no one thought we would achieve, he has been a massive success for LFC and he’s built us to be competitive whoever takes over.