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15 Sep 2017 19:35:08
I want to go completely against the grain here and praise Klopp for not signing a CB this summer (this will get some disagrees but hear me out) .
He feels VVD is the ideal man for his system and VVD has said he wants to come so if Klopp's or VVD's feelings stay the same then the deal will happen at some point. Could be January, could be next summer but it will likely happen.
Why then would he go out and buy another CB that is perhaps ok but not as good as VVD? For me he's showing patience and above all not panicking and putting us in a situation where we have players that are not good enough because we couldn't find the right one.
In the meantime we have to make do with what we have but I guarantee you that slowly but surely as the transfer windows pass he will get the right players in until we have an unstoppable team. Then it's just a case of a couple of new signings each summer to freshen things up.

I guess what I'm saying is have patience this guy knows what he's doing and I really do feel he will get it done.

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15 Sep 2017 19:53:35
We could do with 2 centre backs though. VVD plus a partner.

15 Sep 2017 20:02:00
That's if Saints even agree to do business with us. VVD could end up elsewhere. We have put all our eggs in 1 basket when there are plenty of centre half's who are better than the 3 we have. What happens next summer if we have no CL football to offer due to our current defence.

15 Sep 2017 20:03:06
Vvd mat hummels and keita and we would be good to go imo.

15 Sep 2017 20:08:50
Why? I think VVD and Matip would be a good partnership. If not then I'm sure we'll get someone else. You don't want to change too much at once as Everton are finding out at the moment.

15 Sep 2017 20:12:33
VVD probably already has a partner Mikey, think he's engaged actually. :)

15 Sep 2017 20:19:10
Coz we need 2 CB's. He took a chance not buying a CB and the team as a whole will face its consequences.

15 Sep 2017 20:45:19
Ings, that's my take as well cos tho I am frustrated like anyone else and many may disagree with that approach BUT I understand it cos look at City. They dropped 150 on defenders this season YET they are crap at the back and their best defender was the one signed in 2008 in Kompany. We just have to be patient.

15 Sep 2017 21:01:35
Jay den. That is a very good point and one I hadn't thought of. If we don't get cl football who do we sign? Gibson I guess. That said I do think we will finish top four.

15 Sep 2017 21:05:07
Harry you're missing the point. He didn't take a chance. I think he's well aware of our defensive frailties but rather than settle for second best he's prepared to wait for the right man. Us fans are so impatient and want everything now. Social media makes it worse as it gives us a platform to air our frustrations immediately then everyone gets together and what is a small problem escalates in to Armageddon.
Klopp has to think about the long term and he's obviously happy to work with what he has until he can get the right players in. Rightly so in my opinion.

15 Sep 2017 21:37:18
No he is not Ings. But now he understand slowly that we are in deep deep trouble at the back. It's like a car and all 3 types are crap! It doesn't move, if it was only one you could change it with a spare.
Prepared to wait for the right man? What if this crap defense cost us CL spot next season? No chance in heaven we would afford VVD!
Can I say, Any second best is miles better than what we have with us! You are finding a way to defend the club / board / manager.

Regarding long term, There is no guarantee he would remain beyond next season. This is a result oriented business mate. Like every manager he too has certain goals.

We have conceded 13 goals in 7 games already.

15 Sep 2017 21:59:01
As usual Harry you are overreacting and the roof is caving in on your little world. These are the same defenders that got us to 4th last year and we have improved going forward this year. We are still in good shape the last 2 games don't change that.

15 Sep 2017 22:02:22
I don't think Klopp broke the rules and risked a transfer ban by tapping up VVD in Blackpool so he could sign him in a years time. No matter what kind of spin we put on it without improving the central defence this last window we have dropped a bo##ock.

15 Sep 2017 22:31:22
Ings, it's not just this transfer window is it? He signed Matip - Not good enough
Klavan - Not good enough

Sorry mate, when you take over as manager, you look to address the weaknesses. We are no further forward than under Brendan Rodgers, we shipped 42 goals last season, 12 from set pieces. On the last two games alone, we've conceded 7 goals in two games!

This is not a "last transfer window " issue !

15 Sep 2017 22:45:28
VVD is engaged? Who's he in Lovren with.

15 Sep 2017 22:59:24

Overreacting? The entire 70 million Liverpool supporters are overreacting then mate! Lovren would have dragged us out from top 4 last season and thanks to Coutinho and Can bailing us out!
You sound too confident on this defense to do the job, Tell me which team would we replace in top 4 next summer? UTD, Chelsea, Spurs or City? I am not even counting Arsenal btw!

15 Sep 2017 23:26:16
So by waiting for van dijk klopp has prepared to potentially harm us this season because Lovren is a clown. I was raging we didn't sign a centre half and so far this season has just confirmed how much we needed one.

16 Sep 2017 00:00:13
That's just it though Harry, we can all see the issues it totally obvious so you have to think he sees them too. He obviously couldn't get anyone of sufficient quality in so is prepared to wait which he should. Let's not forget here that Matip was in the team of the season in the German league and Lovren looked a class defender at Southampton. These are not bad players. Klopp obviously thinks he can't get anyone better in and let's face it all of the top teams struggled to get top defenders in this summer. To the point where Johnny Evans nearly got a big move! There's absolutely no point in signing someone just for the sake of it when your first choice is begging to sign for you. We need to work on building relationships with Southampton and get our man. It makes me laugh how fans bitch and moan without having the slightest idea what's been going on behind the scenes.

16 Sep 2017 02:03:08
Still a lot of de Vrie talk about. Maybe him and VVD and let Lovren and Klavan go? Matip, VVD, Gomez and De Vrie sounds decent to me at CB.

16 Sep 2017 08:45:46
Similar I suppose to fans who think everything will work out without having the slightest idea of what is going on behind the scenes. Whatever spin we put on it, it's all only opinions.

16 Sep 2017 09:04:27
But its not all about the defenders is it, there is zero cover from midfield either because of the system we play or they are just not doing their job. Klopp needs to take a look at himself tbh.



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