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14 Aug 2020 20:15:20
Anyone else disappointed about Man Utd signing Stefanovic, purely based on what the Ed’s have said?

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{Ed002's Note - It is a great signing for them - he really is one to watch - and a player Liverpool have been very keen on for a couple of years.}

14 Aug 2020 20:51:43
No I am not disappointed because I have never seen him play.

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{Ed002's Note - One that you will come to regret that Liverpool did not bite in the end. He will be a very nifty player going forward.}

14 Aug 2020 22:23:25
Maybe not with OGS managing his development.

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14 Aug 2020 21:56:19
To be fair Ed. We’ve not got £10 to spare, never mind the £10m that United have spent.

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15 Aug 2020 00:04:52
Fella must have a phone.

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15 Aug 2020 02:01:32
Absolute gutted that he’s going to Man Utd. Why on earth didn’t we buy him? I should have done that and beef up our front 3.

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15 Aug 2020 06:25:38
not really. We can't sign everyone.

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15 Aug 2020 08:42:38
Exactly faith. We don’t have the money for our top targets never mind kids who need to be loaned out.

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14 Aug 2020 12:15:20
So Fabrizio Romano has stated (along with many German sources) that Liverpool have made contact with Bayern over Thiago. However this has been denied by Sky "sources". Is there any truth to this (regarding what Fabrizio has said) and what would Bayern accept in terms of a fee?

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{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich want €35M and will accept a little less. That is what they would have been telling the sides they are talking to.}

14 Aug 2020 12:44:23
Is Liverpool one of those "sides they are talking to"? I appreciate if you are unaware, one can't know everything.

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

14 Aug 2020 13:20:12
Cheers Ed002, have a good Friday.

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{Ed002's Note - And you.}

14 Aug 2020 13:52:23
Do you think if they can sell Thiago they might move for Havertz?

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{Ed002's Note - No, they have already addressed the replacement of Thiago.}

14 Aug 2020 13:11:35
Ed1 said it seems likely he will sign now? Ed1, is this from information recieved? Thanks in advance.

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{Ed001's Note - no, just from the way it is heading. It is going down the same path as other players, such as van Dijk.}

14 Aug 2020 14:24:58
Do you mean as in we tapped him up and now he only wants to play for us? Similar to the VVD scenario Ed001?

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{Ed002's Note - This whole thing has been done to death. I really don't get why the Liverpool supporters want to keep hearing about it.}

14 Aug 2020 14:37:24
Thanks for the reply ed1.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome.}

14 Aug 2020 19:59:47
Because you have such a soothing voice Ed002 ;)

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15 Aug 2020 08:36:36
I really can’t see this happening, it’s not a FSG type signing. £30 million + for a 29 year old with no resale value at the end of his contract whilst we already have options in that position, as good as he maybe I just can’t see the owners sanctioning it.

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14 Aug 2020 12:15:11
eds - echo quoted a club source who denied that the club had been in contact with bayern regards Thiago. part of the rationale they gave was that the club wouldn't want to pay a transfer fee for a player they could sign for free in a year. my question is, for any club wanting to sign Thiago this year, wouldn't they also negotiate an extension to his current contract? it seems like he wants to leave Bayern now, so if another club picked him sure they would be wanting to have him sign a multi year deal? otherwise what other club would pay a transfer fee for potentially a one year rental!?

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{Ed002's Note - Thiago doesn't want to extend his contract. I don't get your point about a one year rental.}

14 Aug 2020 13:07:48
Once Thiago leaves Bayern he will no longer have a contract with Bayern. He’ll have a new contract at his new club, which I’m sure won’t be for a year. It will be negotiated when Bayern allow somebody to speak to him and it’ll likely be 3-4 years, allowing the buying club to get the remaining top years out of the player and the player to have the chance of extending or leaving for yet another club for one last hurrah, maybe the Middle East, Far East, America or Italy.

By that point he has little resale value, will have declined physically making him less suited to certain ways of playing, will have cost a lot of money in wages and transfer fees and potentially suffered from further injuries which are creeping into his career. Hence why somebody at Liverpool is rightly wary.

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14 Aug 2020 19:39:13
Hi eds, can one of confirm if we are actually in for Thiago or not?

Thanks in advance.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP. I have explained over and over the situation.}

14 Aug 2020 21:08:07
Evening Ed002 - Are you by any chance asking Redman 1 to listen to the Ross Tucker Football Podcast?

Just a small theory I’m working on 😁.

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{Ed002's Note - F on't know what that is so I guess not.}

14 Aug 2020 23:13:52
ed2 - the question is, if Bayern sell thiago this summer, would the purchasing club also be negotiating a new contract for him that extends beyond the year he has left on his current contract? I'm asking the question because the echo rationale for Liverpool not wanting to buy Thiago is because the club don't want to buy a player whose contract is going to end in a year. I didn't understand their rational as it wouldn't seem to make sense for any club to spend money on a transfer who is going to become a FA in a year. that's the one year rental bit. happens in NBA all the time.

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{Ed002's Note - I truly think you are completely confused about transfers. I have no idea what the Echo has said but if Liverpool want the player next year they can legally approach him next January. The length of his contract is unrelated to any club that buys him. So if Liverpool were to buy him they would look for a three to four year deal and would need to pay Bayern Munich an agreed fee.}

15 Aug 2020 00:24:46
Faithibworks you are after getting confused by what you read.

Whenever somebody transfers to a new club they sign a new contract with that club. What the echo mean is that Liverpool don't see value in spending €30m on a 29 year who could be a free agent in 10/ 11 months if he didn't leave Bayern this summer.

In reality, it seems more likely that Thiago will leave Bayern this summer so then he wouldn't be a free agent in 10/ 11 months. It's a case of which club will pay Bayern about €30m and Thiago to agree a contract with them. or maybe us, we'll have to wait and see.

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15 Aug 2020 06:41:08
right, that's all I was after. Didn't need the carry on. Sean Ireland - I think you are right, I misinterpreted that bit about him being free in a year's time. I understood that for all transfers, the player would sign a new contract, hence the confusion in what I thought I'd read in the echo. Having said that, if Thiago says he wants to leave Bayern for anywhere now, then that would be the rationale to spend money on him this year because he won't be free in 12 months time by virtue of being at another club!

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13 Aug 2020 20:37:17
Hi ed2, completely random question and I know wouldn't happen but. if a wealthy person wanted to donate money to liverpool or any other football club on the proviso it was spent on transfers, would this be allowed? Maybe it's a stupid question but always wondered.

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13 Aug 2020 21:03:05
How much you got BigbadDom? Ha ha.

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13 Aug 2020 21:50:05
Ha! I wish I had some!

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13 Aug 2020 22:52:34
Always thought this myself, I remember delivering newspapers saying "valencia want 40m for david villa" i thought surely we could all donate a pound and make it happen! 🤣🤣.

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14 Aug 2020 08:14:07
I would rather give it to someone who is in need of money than use it on fooball.

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14 Aug 2020 08:52:33
That was never the question livebird. It wasn't a moral dilemma, just a silly thought.

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14 Aug 2020 10:08:18
I'll chip in a fiver for Thiago.

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14 Aug 2020 10:54:13
Think they would rather you covered their wages over 5 years.

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14 Aug 2020 12:54:21
I'd be willing to put over £450 for Klopp's phone bill.

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15 Aug 2020 00:50:24
Is this the future of football, crowd funding to buys players - making football manager real?

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13 Aug 2020 16:47:50
Bild reporting We've finally bid for Thiago. Anything in this or the usual rubbish?

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{Ed002's Note - I don't know if there has been an offer but hopefully the club are suitably humbled after what has been said about the behaviour of Klopp again.}

13 Aug 2020 17:00:52
What happened with klopp? He talking to the player without permission?

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{Ed002's Note - You must know that. Liverpool had made no approach to his club.}

13 Aug 2020 17:04:39
Not a day trip to Blackpool again?

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13 Aug 2020 17:08:12
Yea it seems common knowledge. By doing this is klopp trying to force Liverpool’s hand into making a bid or unsettle the player. Or both?

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13 Aug 2020 17:37:10
I don't understand the thinking behind the tapping up. It makes other teams not want to do business with us, creates a bad reputation for the club, and what benefits have we actually gained by the cheating that we wouldn't have gotten if we'd just done things the right way in the first place? Instead, it seems like we've paid heavily both financially and relationship-wise. I like Klopp as a manager but something desperately needs to be done by the club to stop this behaviour.

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13 Aug 2020 17:37:48
Tapping up aside, he's a smashing player. has been for years. Would be a good signing in my eyes, could still be pulling strings in 4 or 5 years.

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13 Aug 2020 17:42:28
Same old same klopp ringing players I’m sure they all do it but he’s persistent.

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13 Aug 2020 17:49:04
Just wish we went about things the right way by contacting the club first and then the player. It reeks tbh. He is a quality player of course but doing the right thing wouldn’t go a miss. Ed’s doesn’t no of a bid however so I’m
Still sceltical on this one.

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13 Aug 2020 18:06:42
Zpec - I am not saying it is right and I really wish Klopp stopped doing it. But we are PL, European and world champions we wouldn't have won any of those without the original tapping up, but enough is enough now.

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{Ed001's Note - that is not true. We could have done the same signings the right way.}

13 Aug 2020 18:17:58
Ed1 do you see Thiago happening mate?

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{Ed001's Note - it certainly looks likely now.}

13 Aug 2020 18:21:09
Inside scoop Reds - don’t believe everything you hear.

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13 Aug 2020 18:21:24
Not sure VVD would be here now without the OTT pursuit. Without VVD I doubt we would be in this position. Klopp should not be doing it now regardless.

Did Fergie used to do this?

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{Ed001's Note - Virgil would have been here, there was no need to do that to get him. All it did was cost us money to pay off Saints.

I don't see the relevance to what Fergie did, I would rather we were better than him rather than stooping to his level.}

13 Aug 2020 18:39:54
Wish Klopp would talk to the players after their club have accepted a bid.

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13 Aug 2020 18:51:10
I'm all for Klopp doing it. Love the win at all cost mentality.

Its dog eat dog out there and klopp has bigger teeth!

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13 Aug 2020 19:22:11
I also hope it doesn’t mean Gini isn’t staying if Thiago arrives.

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13 Aug 2020 19:32:02
Really just about every transfer klopp has personally phoned him. by now there would be huge ramifications fakir. werner. thiago the list goes on especially after virgil.

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13 Aug 2020 20:01:14
hahaha, im with u Bobby's Teeth! as long as we get the player I don't care how klopp goes about business, it would only bother me if we didn't go on to get the player! come on the reds!

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13 Aug 2020 20:05:25
I'm not sure I believe all of it. I hope we get thiago, baller.

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13 Aug 2020 20:07:55
. actually just thinking about it. it wouldn't even bother me if we didn't get the player. its just a game lol!

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13 Aug 2020 20:17:34
Bow down to the Plummer.

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13 Aug 2020 20:37:35
Exactly Rio - almost unbelievable isn’t it!

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13 Aug 2020 17:21:18
What has been said about klopp then? I haven't heard anything. Please enlighten us?

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{Ed002's Note - It is not worth opening up the same thing yet again.}

13 Aug 2020 17:38:00
What has Klopp done? Is it possible we don’t want him and it’s his people trying to drum up interest?

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13 Aug 2020 17:57:27
Do most top clubs not do this ed?

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

13 Aug 2020 19:04:10
Surely we are in danger of getting another ticking off if it’s been done in such a manner again.

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{Ed002's Note - There have been two matters raised as I explained. Clubs are sick of it. How do you think RBL felt after months of tapping up and no approach to them and no money to make an offer.}

13 Aug 2020 19:09:08
Sky just reported that Liverpool’s stance on Thiago has not changed, we are not in for him?

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13 Aug 2020 20:53:57
These comments about not caring are pathetic, immature and an embarrassment.

I’m sure you’ll give a toss if we ever get a transfer ban as a result of Klopp’s actions.

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13 Aug 2020 21:11:04
I will take klopp for better or for worse shaq matey;0)

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13 Aug 2020 21:06:31
Serious question Ed002. If Klopp was to call a player, but just general chat, ie the weather, sexi ladies, beer, holidays would that be classed as tapping up of they player later joined our club?

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{Ed002's Note - You are making him sound like a complete flake as well as a cheat.}

13 Aug 2020 21:13:07
The only place I've seen anything about us tapping up, ( apart from the vvd fiasco) is on here. So the question is why are we not been reported and why isn't it in the main stream media, they love rubbish like this? Are clubs just letting us walk all over them or is it hard to prove?

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{Ed002's Note - You somehow missed the most extreme case of ruining the potential career of a 12 year old that got Liverpool a ban as well? Wow. One of the most extreme most despicable things in football. And Fulham and the trail of slime? Easily forgotten.”

13 Aug 2020 21:30:16
Wait until it starts happening to us and then we'll see about all the gleeful joy and celebrations.

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13 Aug 2020 22:27:56
He shouldn't do it and doesn't need to.
You should ask permission and go through the proper channels, it's our business reputation that gets affected.
As aray said we were fuming when Barcelona publically went after couts so why should it be ok if we do it?

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13 Aug 2020 22:31:33
ArAy it has happened to us. Remember Coutinho? Barca’s conduct was disgraceful as was Pip’s because they unsettled him. It happens.
Werner admitted that Lampard called him every day to persuade him to sign for them.
It’s a competitive business and people will do what they can to be successful. If you can’t handle that then find another sport.
I’m not saying I agree with it but it’s part of the game at all levels. I was tapped up as a 13 year old! I’d already signed for a club and another manager from a rival turned up at my house! 😂.

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13 Aug 2020 22:50:25
This was all said about Timo and we never even made a bid for him. Was it not Frank in the phone every day to him to convince him to sign for Chelsea before they bid for him. All this talk about Klopp tapping him up seems a bit paper talk to me. If what Ed’s says is right and we have no money till we sell can’t see us buying him without a couple of players leaving first.

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14 Aug 2020 02:09:59
Haha. Klopp has won a Champions League and a Premier League in no small part because of the recruitment he has over seen.

So what if he broke a few egg shells. You live by the sword, you die by it too. Coutinho, Sterling, Suarez all left the club in a similar way. Klopp is playing the game and winning.

No elite personnel apply for a job, they are wooed. To think otherwise is naive.

Some of the Eds feel personally aggrieved by all this. Not sure why or what they're angle is but in my mind all's fair in love and war.

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14 Aug 2020 06:45:28
Lamps (Chelsea) got permission to speak with Werner whereas we speak with the player, hope he angles for a move and get a better deal.

We are starting to get a reputation for it and we will end up getting punished for it if we are not careful.

Just because it happened to us doesn’t make it right either, we all want our club to be the best it needs to act that way too.

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14 Aug 2020 09:02:53
Great work by klopp, by any means necessary.

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{Ed001's Note - even the man who said that changed his mind and realised that it was not the way to act, and he was talking about something far more important than a game. It is about morals, sad to say you clearly have known.}

13 Aug 2020 22:41:53
Not forgetting that at all ed02. I was referring to klopp mainly, he wasn't involved in either of them debacles. I'm just surprised nothing more is made of it when he does it.

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14 Aug 2020 17:10:58
Maybe this is overdone by now. Truly, sn't tapping up a player really commonplace? Especially when you are one of the top teams in the world, players must constantly be "saying" they have interest in the club, causing the papers to go full swing on the matter.

What I am confused about is why LFC get particular bad coverage on this matter. This happens all the time, and is especially prevalent when you are a top club that EVERY PLAYER would want to make a move for. What separates Klopp from any other top manager that has players desiring a move? Has their fellow countrymen talking the manager and club up?

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{Ed002's Note - It is illegal and not common place. Liverpool are the worst offenders by a light year - why do you want to keep dragging this out.}

13 Aug 2020 11:40:03
Eds, is there any interest in clubs for Taiwo Awoniyi?

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{Ed002's Note - Taiwo Awoniyi (F) no meaningful future - will sell in the summer if possible - loan to Mainz has not worked out well.}

13 Aug 2020 16:50:43
Ed002 - What's happening with Ovie Ejaria? Loan or to be moved on? Haven't heard much talk about him, what was his spell at Reading like?

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool are not keen on renegotiating the fee.}

13 Aug 2020 10:59:13
The curious case of Karius. Ed's just hoping we are not left in a situation where we price Karius out of a move and another loan beckons. Is anyone serious in purchasing him from us?

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{Ed002's Note - Loris Karius (G) Liverpool find him back on the doorstep and will need to find a solution - perhaps a reduced price and an early exit - CSKA and Hertha Berlin offer opportunities - does not wish to return to Turkey although there is interest from there. With Boeckx getting toward the end of his career and Roef's departure this summer already agreed Anderlecht would like him to challenge first choice Van Crombrugge. Wolves needed cover, but Karius would not be first choice there as they have added a player - and regular playing time is what he will be after.}

13 Aug 2020 12:21:23
Thanks for the reply. I have lost superlatives to describe your knowledge Ed2.

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13 Aug 2020 13:35:34
ed002 when you say reduced price have we asked for a price for him. I can't see him being worth to much but I do know we ask for stupid money for players sometimes Clyne was a great example wanted to much money then we ended up getting stuck with him for the rest of his contract so paying his high wages and lost what transfer fee we could have got.

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, Liverpool gave Anderlecht a price which they did not see value in and the picked up cover from elsewhere. No it would depend on price and departures - so much harder.}

12 Aug 2020 12:28:29
Ed, I know you guys are big admirers or Aouar and have mentioned him as your ideal man for the midfield. I wanted know if we hold any interest in him?

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{Ed002's Note - There is a great deal of interest in Aouar from elsewhere but Liverpool have shown no interest and are financially not in a place where a bid would be viable without significant sales.}

12 Aug 2020 14:48:10
Pw-Aouar that would be the dream, here’s hoping if Gini Doesn’t sign a contract and we sell him, Wilson and Grujic then we can only dream .

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12 Aug 2020 15:48:56
Why would you "hope" that Gini doesn't sign a contract? Whether he leaves or not, he wouldn't fetch a hefty fee going into the last year of his contract.

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12 Aug 2020 15:56:16
Thanks Ed2 for the reply. @thesouthernred as much as I would like Aouar to sign I would be happy for Gini to sign as he knows our system and gives his all to the cause.

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12 Aug 2020 17:51:06
I read that right
Let’s hope gini doesn’t sign a contract
I’m still rubbing my head at that one mate.

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12 Aug 2020 18:12:33
Agreed he does suit the system but Aouar is already very good and on 21 where as Gini is nearing 30 and wants to head back to the Netherlands soon.

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{Ed002's Note - But he is not joining Liverpool.}

12 Aug 2020 18:41:57
What is this thought that Gini wants to go back to the Netherlands? He's only 30 and could easily play for any of the top teams in any of the top leagues. It's not as if he's 35 and almost at the end of his career.

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12 Aug 2020 23:29:51
Whoever suggested hoping, I don’t know the reason why a contract hasn’t been signed and I love gini as much as the next but Liverpool football Club should not be sat waiting for a player, if the intent isn’t there then we need to do what’s best for us, I’d love him to stay, if not, thank you and goodluck but the club is number one.

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13 Aug 2020 10:16:17
Maybe read it again before whining. He never said he hoped Gini didn't sign a new contract.

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13 Aug 2020 08:09:23
Gini's agent said he is happy at Liverpool, what's with not signing? Is his agent trying to drum up interest in him to get him higher wages Eds? Gini has had good spells and bad imo.

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{Ed002's Note - Not signing what? He appears to have now become very much a figure of hate for the fans. Has a contract offer been made?}

13 Aug 2020 11:39:19
I wasn’t inferring he was joining, more of an explanation of why we would look for someone in the mould.

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13 Aug 2020 11:51:12
For some fans Ed. Very few would know, that comment on here anyway, whether he's been offered a new contract, is in talks or has it signed and it hasn't been announced yet. Me personally I think he's a solid professional who if he stays then great and if he's looking for one last move before finishing up then he owes the club nothing.

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13 Aug 2020 12:25:27
I was under the impression he had been offered a contract months ago and it had remained unsigned, sure its been mentioned by a Ed.

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{Ed002's Note - Obviously his agent knows nothing of it.}

13 Aug 2020 12:45:33
I am sure one of the eds, maybe ed1, mentioned a contract offer was put forward months ago. I don't know.
I'd also find it surprising that Gini would want to be returning to the netherlands now. he still has so much to offer in Europe's top leagues.

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{Ed002's Note - Many players don’t like playing in the Netherlands.}


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