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25 Aug 2019 23:30:40
We have decided to change the Teams page to be the Liverpool Match Posts page, so look for posts talking about the latest Liverpool match there.

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25 Aug 2019 23:30:40
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25 Aug 2019 16:52:50
ed002 has the interest in lovren gone or do you expect him to move before the window closes all so are rangers back in for kent see something about a loan to buy at the end of the season cheers again ed.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed with Lovren really - the interest remains but Roma have looked at others as Liverpool want a straight sale. Besiktas see him as a cheap option but have not pushed as I under stand it and Milan see Devan Lovren (CB) as a cheap option to preferred targets given the significant issues there are in Milan but Liverpool rejected an approach. Bayer Leverkusen need to do something as they had a young English player as first choice and lost out, a young Welsh player as second choice but he is not really ready to step up and Laurent Koscielny as a back stop. DL is seen as a cheap back stop, and would rather someone younger and would likely want a loan.}

25 Aug 2019 20:00:39
I'd hope that we can keep lovren for this season if he is willing to wait another year before moving on. He's a great experienced option to have as backup and with us pushing this season to finally win that elusive league I hope he can be convinced to play his part when needed with the promise that next summer he will be given full control to choose his future.

We won't be realistically seeing a massive difference in his financial worth over 12 months so unless he is adamant he wants out this summer it would be sensible to try and keep him for now. Another year of development with van den berg and Hoever might see them being ready next season to replace lovren as first team option and if not then we will have time to pursue signing a lovren replacement.

I guess it all hinges on lovrens personal wishes right now and we should respect his choice as he's been a good servant to the club over the years. Any idea ED what his standing is? Is he pushing for transfer this year or would he be willing to remain a squad player for another season?

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{Ed002's Note - He is getting older and wants to play regularly.}

25 Aug 2019 21:43:08
Considering his age, it should be a sale. If it's a loan, then it should be with an obligation to buy.

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25 Aug 2019 22:24:04
I have respect for him wanting to play regularly and looking to take a step down in quality of team to achieve that and fully support him if he wants out. He's still got a potential 4 or 5 years that he can play in a top league so I'm hoping he can decide to give us another year before departing, . I'm sure any potential transfer this summer hinges on whether klopp feels that one of the youngsters can be competent enough to be used.

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24 Aug 2019 12:44:23
Reports that Florentino have made an offer for Bobby Ducan which is a Loan to Buy.

Do you see them willing to sell him or is he not for sale at all?

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25 Aug 2019 11:23:57
In Florentino, you sure don't mean Real Madrid?

Fiorentina are interested, but it's only for a season long loan. It could be a good move for the lad if he's going to get regular playing time.

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25 Aug 2019 21:15:13
isnt he like 12 yrs old. must be a gem if a) he thinks he should be playing regular 1st team football and b) and top flight team want to sign him. hope he goes well.

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23 Aug 2019 09:09:16
Ed001 do we have any idea on the length of injury to AB as of yet? Club been very quite with it, is it because they don't actually no how long it will take? Lopped said a few weeks and it's just about been that, I'm guessing it's worse than first thought?

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{Ed001's Note - this is tedious. They have not been quiet and it has been fully explained, by the club in their normal business and by me. There is absolutely no suggestion it is worse than thought, you are just making that up. It has always been said he will be out until after the international break. Why keep asking?}

23 Aug 2019 09:46:32
Fair enough Ed, tbh I’ve been on Hols for 2 weeks and not been on here much or read any updates on him.

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23 Aug 2019 14:49:18
there's an american doctor with a great explanation of the ins and outs of what they're dealing with re alisson's injury. search for it on youtube. it's interesting and well done.

a very quick summary. it's likely a partial tear of the calf muscle, and the timetable for a return after getting injured this way is dependent on the body of the injured person. since alisson hasn't ever tore a muscle before in his professional career, they're not going to know for sure how long it will take until he's healed.

the average athlete seems to need around 6 weeks to heal with this type of injury, but could be quicker or could take a little longer, depending on how alisson's body heals.

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23 Aug 2019 19:57:21
I rekon he will be back around mid-Jan.

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23 Aug 2019 20:29:17
Thank you mftonjes I appreciate that in depth reply mate, I’ve not seen that write up on it but thank you for sharing it with me 👍.

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22 Aug 2019 19:20:28
The Ox has signed a new contract extension. Could be a key player for us this season.

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22 Aug 2019 19:27:41
Glad to hear it. Ox seems to be a good person to have in the locker room and he can have a real impact as the season goes on.

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22 Aug 2019 19:35:57
He will be a key player.

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22 Aug 2019 19:40:53
Like a new signing. The English Be Bruyne.

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22 Aug 2019 20:02:45
I was a big believer in Ox before he came to Liverpool but I’m slightly surprised that the club have extended his contract given his injury.
He’s not ‘like a new signing’ because he’s damaged goods, as harsh as that sounds, and would we even sign him at all if he’d had that injury back then?

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22 Aug 2019 20:10:00
Sign new deal get MOTM vs old club. Not a bad few days eh.

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22 Aug 2019 20:53:31
Nice to see you stand by our players juicer, damage goods is fecking well harsh, maybe you should try and support the team and players, instead of putting crap like that.

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22 Aug 2019 22:28:11
think the juicer has been juicing too much and his brain has gone to mush.

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22 Aug 2019 22:56:42
He’s not ‘like a new signing’ because he’s damaged goods,
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Wow . most of our players have had an injury in the past including Salah and Mane . are they all damaged goods? .

Look I do have a concern that Alex gets injured quite often, probably the way he plays, don't know . But unfortunately there are players that have this problem and these players sadly never achieve their full potential.

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22 Aug 2019 23:06:02
Sorry lads. I’d have waited until the season end before offering him an extension but I certainly hope he comes good again and stays healthy. As I said, I always liked Ox and was very supportive of his coming to the club. I think he’s a favourite of Klopp’s, which is fair enough.

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22 Aug 2019 23:18:36
'He’s not ‘like a new signing’ because he’s damaged goods. '
Best supporters in the world!

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23 Aug 2019 08:39:59
I agree juicer turn of phrase wasn’t a particularly nice one, but i take his central point. it seems slightly odd to extend now when we haven’t seen if he will be able to return to his pre-injury form. At the end of the day, we’re emotional supporters but the club are hard nosed business people. I hope to goodness he can get back to how he was playing for us, he was brilliant.

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23 Aug 2019 08:42:06
Thunderbird - thankfully we live in a democracy so the majority of fans count not the minority.

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23 Aug 2019 10:33:54
I mean we have club doctors and all kinds of guys in the fitness department who constantly assess Oxlade, I'm pretty sure the club are well aware how his injury has healed and whether it's a big risk or not. Better to leave them to weigh that up than assume he's going to be made of glass because of a freak injury.

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23 Aug 2019 12:15:55
Do Man City consider KDB as "damaged goods? he like the Ox has suffered some pretty serious injuries in his time in England.

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23 Aug 2019 19:16:57
Happy for the lad great person and player someone I would like to see at the club for his entire career.

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23 Aug 2019 19:52:49
Signing a year extension was nice touch from the club to show AOC that he's highly valued. He lost out on a full year of his career and nice to see that Liverpool are showing him that he's deserving of making up for that year he missed out on.

Clearly those within the club have seen he's worked hard and shown a great attitude to earn an extension. He's still reasonably young so a longer contract can't be anything other than a sensible choice.

Madness to see some fans not in full support of this decision, the same fans who probably moaned when lovren got a new deal in the past, he'd probably be gone on a free transfer by now without it.

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23 Aug 2019 22:04:40
Lot of people didn’t fancy the ox when he signed I myself was happy 😃 tho I did think the fee was astronomical. But I like him, as a player he turned the doubters around he seems like laugh . I will stand and argue with anyone who doubts him and I think it’s class offering him a extension but nothing I wouldn’t expect the club to do. Some of you still don’t get what it means to be a red YNWA happy bank holiday guys.

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{Ed047's Note - I liked him but always thought he flattered to deceive, never quite reaching the level I’d hoped for.

His injury record is shocking and from that side of things was not sorry to see him go.

Nice lad though and wished him well when he went.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alex-oxlade-chamberlain/verletzungen/spieler/143424

24 Aug 2019 11:02:53
Sorry Har, but I just happen to think the timing is a bit strange, that’s all. It’s nothing to do with supporting the Ox getting a new deal, I don’t think there was any rush for him to sign was there ( I might be wrong) . I don’t think there’s anyone that can be sure he’ll return to his pre-injury form and that’s all my point is. We all have to wait and keep everything crossed that he will do, but football is littered with players who were never quite the same after injuries. I personally just think it could have waited to Christmas that’s all.

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25 Aug 2019 00:08:38
@lfchopeful I understand your caution but it's just 1 year extension it's not that big a gamble really., just a nice case of backing from the club to show that we believe he's worthy of getting back that year he missed out on.

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22 Aug 2019 18:39:08
Liverpool to sign nike deal? Gross. Nike can't make a good looking kit to save their life. Would prefer less money and better kits!

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22 Aug 2019 20:03:28
Is it your money lfcohio? 😅.

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22 Aug 2019 20:27:40
Don't buy the Nike shirt then. It really is that simple. Whining for the sake of whining.

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22 Aug 2019 22:03:15
LFCohio the kit will be red . I'm not a fan of nike kits but if it's a reportedly record deal well that's fine in my book our main competitor have an endless money pit . Personally the only time I'd wear a replica kit is on the 5 a side pitch.

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23 Aug 2019 08:42:48
Posted this on the forum back in January and got bashed because it was Nike, just google 2006-08 Holland Home Shirt which is a Nike top, its an absolute fantastic item, I would love a LFC shirt in that style.

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23 Aug 2019 09:22:19
No agreement yet with Nike anyway.

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23 Aug 2019 19:15:19
So we are led to believe virg.

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23 Aug 2019 19:59:04
I'd like Nike sponsorship, generally it's great quality gear, I'm not sure why so many here despise the brand? They will provide the club with a great financial upgrade in income which is the main thing.

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24 Aug 2019 02:20:03
Cant be worse than nb second and third kits amyway.

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24 Aug 2019 07:07:36
I don’t particularly like Nike, but it’s completely irrelevant, the important thing is that (at least according to Forbes), this is a very very lucrative deal for us and the biggest in the Premier League, by some margin apparently. Let’s give credit to the owners for negotiating these commercial deals, they’re putting right the wrongs of the last 30 years of maladministration under Moores then H and G.

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24 Aug 2019 20:00:58
Har_red92, Nike aren’t what you could call the most ethical company in the world, for example the allegations of sweat shop labour, the way it treated its employees in America, and that’s only part of the bad press. However, compared to the activities of the owners of Man City (ie a theocratic fascist state) they’re almost saints. And if it gives us a better commercial presence and expands the club globally, we have to accept it for what it is.

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25 Aug 2019 00:13:26
Yeah well 6times I'm not really one to get hung up on the ethical side of their business as it's not something I know much about, I'm simply hopeful that we can get the best deal we can without over thinking too deeply.

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25 Aug 2019 09:58:35
Prefer nike to new balance and warrior! We have had some dreadful kits over the years with Reebok and Adidas, absolutely shocking. Nice all red plainish Nike kit will be good.
Nice to have the largest sporting brand in the world affiliated and paying handsomely, nice to see the club doing so well financially in terms of revenue! We do lack still to United but making strides to become the Nº1 both on and off the pitch.

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21 Aug 2019 14:41:12
Rumour has it Herbie Kane is staying and will be staying in the first team squad, is there any truth in this?

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21 Aug 2019 18:31:58
I guess it's a " " scenario. Klopp wants him for the League Cup but Kane is still hoping to go out on loan for his development.

I can't blame the lad. If we go far in the League cup, he'll lose his place to more experienced squad players and if we don't, he's stayed to play 1 or 2 games.

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21 Aug 2019 21:09:37
Best of luck to the lad, whichever road he takes.

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21 Aug 2019 21:33:53
Would make no little sense to not let him move on, it seems near impossible to think he has any hope of getting anywhere near our first team now or in the future, he's not that young anymore either he should be looking to move on.

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22 Aug 2019 01:12:20
Is he good? And how is his style of play?

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22 Aug 2019 10:23:54
How are we classing 20 year olds as "not that young"?! Sheer madness!

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22 Aug 2019 11:28:58
I had the pleasure of watching the lad all season at Donny rovers and he was fantastic! He's a midfielder who likes to dictate the tempo but also chipped in with a few goals. By no means am I saying he's ready for the first team but it sounds like a lot of nonsense saying a 20 yo is 'not that young' and to move him on 😂.

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22 Aug 2019 12:14:08
I don't get it either. Why are players expected to be top level so young? If they aren't ready by 23 they are written off? Makes no sense to me, especially looking at how many players over the years we have bought in deemed ready and or good enough for our first team, who have turned out to be poor. Ok it has improved significantly recently, but how many of the roles filled by those signings could have just been given to one of our graduates.

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22 Aug 2019 12:19:09
He played in the Number 6 role for the U23s so potentially there could be a place for him as backup to Fabinho.

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22 Aug 2019 14:23:48
Herbie Kane is not good enough for the first team in my opinion. I know he was rated by Stevie but he has turned into a championship player. (in my opinion)

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22 Aug 2019 15:37:31
And what is (your opinion) based upon irishscouser2?

Unless you followed Doncaster the whole year last year and have attended Liverpool training since then you cannot make such an assumption.

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22 Aug 2019 19:50:38
Playing well for Doncaster means nothing, he has never looked good enough for the first team.

People might think he's old cos he's the oldest looking 20 year old in football.

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22 Aug 2019 20:13:33
How does playing well for Doncaster as a 19 year old mean nothing, their fans and coach raves about him playing.

But to be fair once you are 20 you cannot improve ever you are stuck at that level for life.

“He has never looked good enough for the first team” I wil say It again he’s back from a loan as a 19 year old and the club haven’t loaned him out as want to have him in and around the FIRST team squad.

He may never make it at Liverpool but to write him off now is just plain odd.

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{Ed025's Note - yeah...and dirty boots wont clean themselves SR..

22 Aug 2019 21:44:57
We say the same thing almost every year about a youngster, minus Brewster and TAA who from early on you could see they were better than most. Strange I don't remember them being loaned out.99% of our youngsters are decent players and will do well in the lower leagues, not Liverpool.

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22 Aug 2019 22:32:11
well ed, you must know, if the boot room comes back the golden years are upon us.

I am a fan of Kane, probably won't make it at liverpool but i dislike people discarding young players as "deadwood"

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{Ed001's Note - we will only know if he is good enough when he gets a chance.}

23 Aug 2019 18:26:00
I've said on another thread (regarding the next recruit from the academy after TAA and Brewster) . The fact that Klopp wants him to stay with the first team squad then you never know.

Kane could be the next TAA/ Brewster. At this stage Klopp and the coaching staff know more than we do as they see him in training, and we are just speculating, based on the fact he was at Doncaster last season whether he is or isn't good enough.

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23 Aug 2019 20:04:46
My apologies when I stated he's not that young I never knew he was only 20, I always had the thought he was around the 23 mark, he certainly doesn't look that young.

It's the fact he plays in a position where he's currently 8 or 9th in pecking order is the realistic issue that I see his Liverpool future being unlikely.
Never intended to sound like I was completely writing the lad off.

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25 Aug 2019 08:48:50
9th in the pecking order, who’s ahead of him, you including gerrard and alonso.

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25 Aug 2019 10:03:00
The other Kane, oh yer Harry! Didn’t he get started late too, not everyone develops the same. Might take a few more years so all we care about is talent and him taking chances when they arrive.

20 is nothing, still got 15 years decent football in him maybe more!

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25 Aug 2019 20:09:10
Southern red. fabinho hendo wiji Milner keita OX lallana Jones. That's 8 players who are clearly considered ahead of Kane currently.

Do you really see him competing for first team? Playing in the u23s might benefit him who knows but my point is that it's unlikely he can break into this team and a move would be surely his best career option. Would you not agree?

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21 Aug 2019 13:11:46
Hi all, I’ve got a question for Ed002. Do you know the latest on the Premier League’s search for a new Chief Executive? It’s been almost a year and a half since Scudamore stood down, have you heard about any issues behind the scenes?

Appreciate it’s not really a Liverpool post, but still relevant.

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{Ed002's Note - After the false start with Susanna Dineage an offer was made to someone else who after consideration declined the role. A third party company working on behalf of the Premier League found them some potential candidates but none were suitable. The plan remains to fill the role before the end of the year and another third party is working the issue. Separately the Premier League do have someone in mind, but he would need persuading - and I rather doubt he will be.}

21 Aug 2019 15:18:37
Can you let them know I’d make myself available for that level of remuneration, thanks ed👍.

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{Ed002's Note - Will do.}

21 Aug 2019 15:45:39
Ed002 couldn’t you do the job in your spare time?

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{Ed002's Note - Actually they have considered a couple of Americans, which was a little bit of a surprise.}

22 Aug 2019 06:33:39
I bet Alan Curbishley is about 33/ 1 for the role on most betting sites.

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22 Aug 2019 09:03:18
What about Rick Parry?

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21 Aug 2019 12:59:56
Hi Eds,

Question, do you see Liverpool going after Houssem Aouar in the near future? I know that we tried to sign him in 2016 and he was persuaded to reject us and it looks like we have still been scouting since then.

Do we still hold proper interest or are we just keeping an eye out for his development. Looks like he will be a top top player.

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{Ed002's Note - Three clubs have a declared interest in the player but Lyon are not looking to sell this summer and all clubs are aware of that - there is nothing to say that Liverpool are looking to him.}

21 Aug 2019 13:40:45
Well Aouar2020 has been trending so fans seem to think so!

I am sure that we are scouting him but he will be a very significant outlay to prise him from Lyon and as Ed says there will be interest from other big clubs.

Guess it depends how the season goes and how our midfield evolves by the end of the season.

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21 Aug 2019 21:37:21
He looks like he can become a great player and will be hot property if he can keep improving this season, he will surely demand a hefty fee though with many top clubs looking at him.

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21 Aug 2019 12:20:24
Hi Ed,
I was wondering if you could shed any light on the rumors linking us to Kai Havertz.
Personally, I think our squad is strong enough as it is but I'd like to know what you think.

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{Ed002's Note - The situation remains the same as it has been regarding the future of Kai Havertz in that Bayern Munich are looking to complete his transfer next summer and the player is happy with that. There has been interest from a number of other sides including Barcelona, Arsenal and Chelsea, and both Manchester City Liverpool are likely looking at the situation but his future is largely mapped out and he is the subject of ongoing discussions with a move certainly happening in 2020. Bayern Munich are fearful that Barcelona will make a significant offer but he won't be first pick for them. I would forget him for now.}

21 Aug 2019 13:30:55
Shame, he looks a real talent.

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21 Aug 2019 13:41:38
I think we can rule out any German players for the foreseeable future as they predominantly all just end up at bayern/ Dortmund.

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21 Aug 2019 17:44:07
havertz is as likely as mbappe was.

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21 Aug 2019 21:41:14
If coutinho turned out to be a big success and possibly thrive in a no.10 central role would that have any effect on bayerns plans to spend big money too on havertz I wonder?

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22 Aug 2019 01:06:40
Har_red. It's completely irrelevant.

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22 Aug 2019 01:55:37
EpicPotato yeah you're probably right to be fair.

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20 Aug 2019 12:01:04
Apparently we have rejected an approach from a Norwegian team for Duncan.

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20 Aug 2019 13:50:15
Would that be "DUNKIN BISCUIT"? Seriously he replaced Brewster last night and did better in his half hour than Brewster in an hour.

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20 Aug 2019 18:33:28
Danish.

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20 Aug 2019 20:23:42
Imho I think Duncan could be a top player.

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