31 Mar 2024 19:00:04
Ed's
Outside of Amorim who would you like to see as our next manager?
For me I think we need to look at someone who plays a similar way to what we do know (otherwise player changes are required) and has a track record of batting well above their average (competing with the financial muscle of Chelsea and City will be a challenge) .
None spring to mind as fitting the bill to me- any stand out for you?
{Ed001's Note - no one stands out at all, sorry.}
31 Mar 2024 22:51:53
P79, there ain't anyone else out there, man. It is what it is.
31 Mar 2024 23:07:05
I still don't think Potter should be entirely discounted. He earned his chance at Chelsea and then was given a poisoned chalice with very little time. It was never going to work for him and they still continue to stutter.
Xabi was the only individual who immediately stood out, but in his absence there aren’t too many people who you would think you’d like to see which would have the sticking power and bring the stability we will need.
We don't want a caretaker or to drift from manager to manager every couple of years so I wouldn’t have an issue with bringing in a young, hungry Englishman who had garnered a great reputation prior to the disaster that is Chelsea (he’d have been nuts to turn it down after all) .
The fact that so many here are so quickly dismissive of any the options is nuts. We have to accept that we will likely have to suffer the dreaded transition with whoever it is that comes in.
31 Mar 2024 23:51:13
Potter should be dismissed as an option. We’re not a mid table club. If we appointed him, we’d be taking on a manager whose reputation is in the bin and a manager who has done nothing since failing so spectacularly at Chelsea. Why would we want a Chelsea reject manager? Potter would drag us to mid table, that’s not transition that is failure.
31 Mar 2024 23:53:31
This is Liverpool and I'm a lifelong Liverpool fan. I want the next manager to have at least won a couple of titles and championships) if from European leagues) so that he has a fair chance of continuing Klopp's work with the players he is leaving behind. I want to continue challenging and winning. Being hungry and young doesn't cut it for me as being enough. Neither is being an Englishman; we're past that stage since long.
I thought I'd explain why I'm dismissive completely of Potter.
01 Apr 2024 01:36:54
Brendan Rogers or Tommy Tuchel ArAy?
Success in an inferior league is a low bar for me.
They have to have other traits.
01 Apr 2024 07:47:11
Ron, given that the EPL is generally considered to be the best league in the World, anyone from another league will be judged as coming from an "inferior level league". Loads of managers have come to the EPL from lower leagues and done well: Mourinho, Guardiola, Conte, and even our own Klopp, as a few examples. The key is to find someone "on the way up" on his career path and create the environment where he can keep going up; very much as Klopp did.
01 Apr 2024 08:40:12
What I’m saying is winning titles elsewhere should not be the criteria - Rogers, Tuchel. Pep and Klopp had other traits. Pep had resurrected Barcelona and turned them into the best side in Europe/ the world. Both Klopp and Pep had distinctive styles of football which would translate well to the premier league. Klopp knew how to motivate players too.
Coming from an inferior league is not a negative, but it provides the context for their success. I don’t really care if they’ve won titles elsewhere, I want to know their football philosophy - will it translate to the fast paced ultra-aggressive PL- and I want to know how they are at motivating players (young players, established players and superstar players) and I want to know how they respond to extreme pressure.
01 Apr 2024 10:45:10
Ron, I don't disagree with you at all, we are actually interested in the same things. But going back to the original post, do you see Graham Potter as having enough of those traits which you mentioned given his record (relative success) at Brighton and (relative failure) at Chelsea?
01 Apr 2024 12:01:05
I do ArAy. That’s why he shouldn’t be discounted IMO. Young, hungry and English isn’t the be all etc, but it’s a bonus for me. Less likely to have their head turned by one of the other Euro giants and more chance of being a legacy manager. I may be wrong, but I think only 3 or 4 foreign mangers have lasted more than 5 years at a prem club. Most teams with consistent success have benefitted from having a consistent manager.
I don’t particularly see what he did wrong at Chelsea and if he were still at Brighton he’d almost certainly be in the conversation.
I think people just have to get used to the idea that the next appointment will not bring the same excitement as Klopp did from the off and by starting with a negative attitude of every name that is not Klopp or Alsonso it doesn’t bode well for the inevitable patience that will be needed.