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09 Oct 2015 21:45:38
heard that Klopp might choose Gerrard or Carra to help with the coaching?

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09 Oct 2015 22:49:51
Ed002, should we be surprised to see Klopp bring in some BVB players over time?

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{Ed002's Note - I think there is a chance that one might be an option in the summer. Possibly a second but it would be dependent on who impresses and who gets moved on.}

10 Oct 2015 00:16:25
Id love to see Reus at anfield he would be the world class match winning player we need.

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08 Oct 2015 12:59:44
Gary Mac and O'Driscoll leaves roles at LFC.

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08 Oct 2015 13:23:54
Hope Gary Mac takes the offer of another role that's on offer.

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{Ed002's Note - I would hope he has more resect for himself and after a kick in the gonads by the club walks away.}

08 Oct 2015 13:37:04
Dissapointing how the whole matter was handled. all this could have been avoided if they had just replaced BR in the summer, instead replacing just the backroom staff was always going to end in tears considering the main culprit was still in position.

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08 Oct 2015 13:56:18
I don't think Klopp would have joined us in the summer

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08 Oct 2015 13:51:12
Ed002, is it though? I mean in football it's common that if a manager leaves/sacked a new guy brings his team in. Being offered another role, getting the chance to work with Klopp, regarded as one of the brightest coaching talents, how is that a kick there?

He could have just been dumped like Odriscoll

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{Ed002's Note - He has been sacked from his job. Get off the damp patch about the other "getting the chance to work with" nonsense.}

08 Oct 2015 14:30:20
Kenny was put in a similar position ed002 and he's still a great part of the club. I just don't see why it's a major kick in the gonads. Liverpool changed manager, when the front man goes, often times the rest are to follow, because new managers want their own staff. though I can see where you're coming from, jobs are hard to come by. If the club value his input enough to want to keep him on, it's also a sign of respect.

And to be fair, taking a role under a manager who would sell out his own back room staff was a pretty risky move anyways.

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{Ed002's Note - Dalglish was totally different - it was the actions of the runt and his own abject stupidity that got him sacked.}

08 Oct 2015 14:41:02
Yeah I understand that. I'm just saying all bridges don't have to be burnt down!

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{Ed002's Note - You need to get over all of this "legends" nonsense and accept that the club really don't give a toss about the likes of McAllister.}

08 Oct 2015 14:41:41
Do feel for those 2 in that they were brought in to makes things improve and have only been in a few months. Yes every new manager wants to change their staff but it wasn't down to those guys it all happened.

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08 Oct 2015 14:50:55
Ed 002, you are so right, the club formally known as Liverpool Football Club, stopped giving a damn about anybody, especially the fans, since Peter Robinson left.

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08 Oct 2015 14:52:41
This isn't really uncommon at other places either. Life's cruel. They'll get new jobs. If I lost a job and the company did what they could to see I still had one, there's at least some respect for me within the company. Not trying to get you worked up btw

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08 Oct 2015 15:22:14
I'm going to use that 'get off your damp patch' here and there. Nice one.

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08 Oct 2015 16:01:53
To put into perspective when McCallister joined in the summer I'm sure he had a feeling Rodgers nay had so much time before Rodgers went. Therefore him and O Driscoll probably had an inkling this could be a short term role.

I'm glad Linjders has been kept on and that's the main thing for me, and Klopp coming obviously.

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08 Oct 2015 16:02:36
New gaffer new rules get on with it,love Gary Mac but he's a grown man he nos the crack he'll move on.

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08 Oct 2015 16:53:10
As much as I respect Gary and feel for him and the rest of the team, I'd rather Klopp had the staff he knows how to work with so he can focus 100% on the players and not have to second guess whether his coaches are doing what he needs them to do.

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08 Oct 2015 18:07:38
Lfc have said he still has an ambassadorial role

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{Ed002's Note - Embarrassing - death by cheese and wine. Perhaps they could offer him a £100 club shop voucher to sweeten the deal?}

08 Oct 2015 18:18:45
Apparently he has taken up the ambassadorial role offered to him with the club

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08 Oct 2015 18:47:56
Do you lot not think Gary mac was a bit silly for taking the role under rodgers? He was lucky to survive the chop after last season. and was the favourite to be first sacked manager from the prem.

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08 Oct 2015 19:06:03
I think Gary Mac loves the club and wants to be involved, but I agree, I do feel a bit sorry for him

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08 Oct 2015 18:40:35
Well its his fault for putting his fate in Rogers' hands. Embarrassing? Don't think so people get sacked every day it's like any other job he'll get his money and still be an ambassador for the club its not like he was doing any thing before. And i think Gary Mac and O'Driscoll were on a one year contract

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08 Oct 2015 19:57:38
@Magico I don't think he was silly no, Everyone knows how much he loves Liverpool and yes he probably had thoughts about Rodgers leaving as we did but if we got offered the role knowing BR was in charge and that there was a risk he could be sacked and you could follow I'm sure we would both still take it regardless of that - I know I would anyway because It's Liverpool and the team I support, Could be a day, a month or 10 years i'd still do it to help, But for some strange reason I haven't had any missed calls from Jurgen yet asking me to come in for a chat haha

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08 Oct 2015 20:51:07
Remember when Moyes took over the devils? He got rid of all the back room staff who were proven winners within their profession. He brought in his own staff who hadn't won anything. The rest is history, they were a laughing stock within weeks of his appointment.

Klopp is bringing in proven winners in a big league! Gary Mac was a winner as a player and he will always be in LFC folklore for what he achieved with us. But I for one am so chuffed that we've now started to bring in a whole team that can push this team forward and attract the best players (without CL football for now). We need to keep tradition and remember the past but, most of all we need to look forward and move with the times.

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08 Oct 2015 19:32:38
You should all know by now that it's physically impossible for Ed2 to say anything nice about our club. He'd bawk at the very thought. Just don't rise to it. Gary Mac was always on a hiding to nothing and I'm sure he'll survive.

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{Ed002's Note - Attempting to be the wanker your father should have been makes you look a complete cretin.}

08 Oct 2015 23:06:23
Man it's harsh on this forum sometimes. No need guys !!

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08 Oct 2015 23:45:10
Gary Mac is a good guy and would want the best for it. He understands the football world. Ed2 has been bleating that klopp wast coming, he's here.
Maybe a bit worried that there will be less to choose from when Roman weilds the axe at the ridge lol

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09 Oct 2015 03:51:09
I suppose ed2 only goes off the information he's given. If solid media reports are to be believed, Liverpool only directly contacted Klopp's reps on Monday.

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{Ed001's Note - the issue was always Liverpool not showing any interest in him, which was made clear repeatedly. The moment they did we got him. It is a surprise because FSG had rejected names put forward due to them having English as a second language, then suddenly changed their mind and went for Ancelotti and then Klopp. I would love to find out what made them drop that particular requirement.}

09 Oct 2015 05:57:13
A lot has been said on the circumstances of Macca and O'Driscoll, but I feel like the debate has been very polarized.

On the one hand-- LFC are persons who have kicked two LFC legends in the balls.

On the other, "life sucks, get a helmet". As in, sorry, life is cruel, get used to it!

I don't think either perspective is correct or accurate.

No matter how you slice it, this is an unfortunate circumstances for both of these guys, particularly Macca who is a Red legend (for his role in the treble of 2000/01, among other things).

At the same time, I cannot see either of these guys taking these jobs-- at the time they did-- with the clear understanding that their stay could be short. Why? They were being brought in as new staff for a managerial regime under BR that was on very thin ice.

Macca/O'Driscoll had to know that if results did not come, BR may be shown the door and if a new manager hired, he would bring his own staff.

I'm sure this was conveyed to them, and that both took the job with their eyes wide open, thinking that despite the risk that the job may be short, it was still worth it to give it a try to coach for the Reds. Who would turn down the opportunity?

In other words, it's entirely consistent to believe that it sucks and is very sad (and unlucky) for Macca/O'Driscoll to be let go so son; while also believing that LFC and FSG are not disrespecting these two guys, or "kicking them in the gonads".

That's all I'm going to say on this.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but both men were hired with the premise they would stay in place should Rodgers go and be there to smooth the handover to a new regime.}

09 Oct 2015 06:57:34
That is just not a realistic promise to make, nor to trust, in the circumstances. Why would any new manager not be allowed the opportunity to bring his own coaching staff?

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{Ed001's Note - the point was we were going to be going with head coaches in the future.}

09 Oct 2015 06:58:16
Ed001, when you consider that they've always admired him, and that he was readily available, I think they just decided to trust their instinct and ignore what their stupid advisor said. They certainly didn't want to be left with any regrets.

Are you surprised that Klopp was interested? Personally, I'm not, but there was always a baseless rhetoric that Klopp wouldn't be interested. I've taken a lot of joy in throwing eggs in the faces of people told me I was some 'deluded scouser' because I said Klopp would say yes to an offer.

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{Ed001's Note - of course I am not surprised, I mentioned many times that I was told he would be very interested, keen even, to take on the job.}

09 Oct 2015 09:11:37
So in the months leading up to this, did Klopp's representatives ever suggest indications to Liverpool or other people that Klopp is keen?

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09 Oct 2015 15:15:01
I think it's all part of the footballing world. There's a lot at stake, and as such - from the perspective of the club being a business - nothing should ever be taken for granted or be too much of a surprise. Being realistic, if the club wants to succeed, they can't be too sentimental - (I'm not saying I would like our club to outright shady in their dealings, I don't believe that's what's happened) things change and you have to react accordingly.

I had dared to hope we would attract Ancelotti and I would love to know why that didn't come to pass; whether it was just his year off and this apparent "side project" - or if the job just doesn't interest him. His record is impressive, but equally, Klopp has virtues that LFC need right now and the bloke has proven his quality despite a below par last season at Dortmund.

ED1 - would be keen to hear your thoughts on something.

There has been a story that Klopp said to someone he believed he would one day manage Man U. I've found nothing to say he said it on record, if he said it at all. It has also been apparent for a while that he would be keen on the Liverpool job - if the mill is to be believed.

Klopp seems to me to be quite an emotional fellow, genuinely committed to his cause - the tears when he left Mainz, and clearly sentimental about BVB. Yet he apparently was also been keen on Bayern - which seems to me to be a bit like Kenny Dalglish going to manage Man U. I know Rafa went to Chelsea, but Klopp strikes me as made from different stuff.

So my questions are:

Is there anything in The Man U story, and what is your take on him wanting to switch to Dortmund's biggest rival?

Do you think/know if he intends his time at LFC to be a long term project? I want to get behind him, but the idea he could up and off to Bayern or Man U makes me uneasy.

Thanks as always,


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{Ed001's Note - I have never heard anything of him saying that about Man Utd, nor have I heard any indications of him being willing to take on the Bayern role. If he wanted that he only had to wait until the summer, yet he chose to take a job with us. He has very publicly said a number of times that Bayern would be a job he could not take due to his time at Dortmund, so I have no idea why the media were spinning the chance of him going there, he is a man of his word I believe.}

09 Oct 2015 15:26:50
There is not a professional business in the entire world which would not step on or sell out it's employees if it would further their business. So while ED002 might feel that liverpool have conducted their business in an unprofessional manner it's simply the way of business. singular employees are never as important as the business itself.

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{Ed002's Note - One excuse after another. I really don't care if the club wishes to act this way - but the fans are the ones always going on about "legends". They can't do that any more.}

09 Oct 2015 16:50:48
Just watched his press conference.

Said all the right things, and comes across as a genuine guy.

I am believer.

No doubts.

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08 Oct 2015 13:01:43
If the news coming out that pep is staying at Bayern as part of the coaching team then that's brilliant news.

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08 Oct 2015 10:51:42
Well guys it looks like Klopp is to be announced today, and everyone is buzzing! At work at the moment, can hear Klopp's name flying around. For once the usually bitter United fans in the office seem to have a bit of respect for something we're doing, and actually seem a little scared of the prospect.

The general idea I get from people not just here at work, but on social media and at home is that this is a very respected man, the fans are behind him as both a manager and a person which is something it felt we never fully were with Rodgers.
Lets hope he brings his genius to Liverpool and all this excitement and buzz is worthwhile.
A difficult start for him, let's give him time.

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08 Oct 2015 11:00:46
Wouldn't count ye chickens yet mate, Pep Guardiola has just agreed to take over at City next season and BM now want to reserve Klopp's signature

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08 Oct 2015 11:04:35
What about his assistant? are they coming or what?

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08 Oct 2015 11:24:40
I'm really not sure Aneesh, I'd personally say yes that would be a part of the agreement when he signs his contract, but there's a rumour going around that current staff are staying so let's see what happens!

Really Murf? He seems to have his mind made up, I don't think BM would be able to change his mind so late into negotiations, even the BBC are reporting that it's to be announced. Would be interesting to see who would come in place of him if not!

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08 Oct 2015 11:16:26
there is only one publication which has said that he's 'agreed' a deal with city. ed002 explained that city are no longer interested in him.

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08 Oct 2015 11:30:59
Just seen it on Sly and another few sites RyLFC94, possibly usual garbage though

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08 Oct 2015 11:33:52
Interestingly The Mirror (who let's be honest, aren't the most trustworthy of sources) are reporting that Klopp has not only shown that he's a big fan of a couple of our players (Benteke/Firmino), but has also said to the owners that he thinks he can get a top 4 finish this season with some minor changes in January as he believes the squad is good enough.

Accordingly everyone will get time to prove themselves before he thinks about replacing them/bringing in new people.

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08 Oct 2015 12:03:12
Lets be honest guys!I don't think I will be able to watch his announcement smilingly.I will be crying!HELL YEAH.YNWA KLOPP.

Some websites saying the current staffs are set to leave the club. Against what bild said.Some are saying he was the one who suggested we sign Firmino too!

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08 Oct 2015 12:49:30
Some of you need to relax, the deal will happen regardless of what Bayern and Pep decide to do with themselves at this hour.

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08 Oct 2015 14:25:46
Agreed with Nick, things are way too far forward now for a change at Bayern to make any difference. Plus, wouldn't that be an odd move for someone who loves Dortmund as much as Klopp does?

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{Ed002's Note - No, that was the job he wanted.}

08 Oct 2015 17:08:13
Looking at the BPL so far this season that squad should be good enough to challenge for the top 4 so some tweaks in January should make that stronger.

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09 Oct 2015 00:09:23
In saying that, I don't feel like the Liverpool job is some kind of reluctant plan B. If his heart wasn't fully in it, he wouldn't have accepted it. He's always wanted to manage in England, and has always admired the club.

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09 Oct 2015 01:03:37
Eds and fellow reds, especially Nick. Having met him all I can say is he would love nothing more than to beat himself at his own fantasy and have liverpool beat bayern to the ucl. The guy is perfect for Liverpool FC.

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06 Oct 2015 22:54:20
I was just wondering If there was any talk of removing Ian Ayre from his post. I know a lot of people blame him for missing out on key players due to faffing about, they think that he should shoulder a lot of the blame that Rodgers is getting at the moment with regards to transfers.

Obviously with the changes happening at the moment, If Ayre was to go this would be time to do it.

Would someone like Zorc who Klopp works incredibly well with and actually credits Zorc with finding a lot of Dortmunds talent and negotiating with their clubs be considered?

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07 Oct 2015 00:44:09
Isn't Zorc sort of a director of football? Ayre is the CEO. Two completely different roles. One which Zorc would probably be completely unprepared for in terms of his numerous responsibilities outside of the footballing decisions.

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07 Oct 2015 02:07:50
Actually, I did hear that FSG are considerably unimpressed with Ayre at the moment. I don't think they've been impressed with his blind support for Rodgers.

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07 Oct 2015 04:45:56
What is the basis for believing Ayre "blindly" supported Rodgers?

I think the guy who should be worried about his job is Mike Edwards, given that stories are suggesting Klopp will bring his own analytics man from Dortmund.

I think it would be great to have Zorc-- as he spotted some real talent for BvV-- but do we have any evidence he'd ever leave Dortmund for Liverpool? His contract goes to 2019, and he's a lifetime BvB man.

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{Ed001's Note - Zorc has said he is happy there. Ayre was very much a Rodgers' backer in the summer.}

07 Oct 2015 07:53:02
I asked this question on Monday, Ed002 said no he is not being shown the exit door at this time.

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{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware, unless something has changed, Ayre's position is not currently under threat. As for Zorc, he is not a replacement for him and he is happy at Dortmund and unlikely to move anywhere.}

07 Oct 2015 12:00:26
Baz, what Zorc does at Dortmund and what Ayre does at Liverpool are two entirely different things.

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07 Oct 2015 13:23:42
hey edd i have heard on a lfc podcast that zorc contract runs out in the summer with Dortmund and liverpool will want a DOF as they wanted from the start , could be 2 + 2 = 22 but it would make sense at the least to approach zorc in the future.

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{Ed002's Note - Someone is teasing you about his contract.}

08 Oct 2015 11:49:10
Where did Sky say he's agreed a City deal? If anything they must have just regurgitated what they call gossip

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09 Oct 2015 00:10:07
I actually hear now that this may be Ayre's last season. He could be off to Standard Chartered, with FSG eyeing Nicola Cortese as his replacement.

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06 Oct 2015 22:50:31
Won't be anchilloti. SSN just confirmed not coming back until next season.

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06 Oct 2015 23:30:58
anchilloti? Have to admit i got a silly little laugh off that.

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08 Oct 2015 14:32:22
His cousin chinchilloti is still in the frame though!

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06 Oct 2015 17:35:07
Just been told press conference being arranged for tomorrow.

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06 Oct 2015 18:29:57
Surely this is too soon after 1st contact a day or 2 ago.

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07 Oct 2015 03:03:10
I bet contact was made months ago!!

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06 Oct 2015 10:49:17
These 2 comments concern me and are also why I fear a Coutinho sale soon. Ed002 is usually bang on the money!

{Ed002's Note - Barcelona has made it be known that they have an interest in Coutinho. If nothing happens to change that they will make an offer in 2016. However, do not be surprised to see circumstances change - and then we need to wait and see. To get money for June Liverpool can sell in January or sell the loan to buy players - and that is it.}

{Ed002's Note - I understand that Coutinho has said that he will leave Liverpool in the summer if they don't have Champions League football to three of his International colleagues. He is also aware of interest from Barcelona and one of the three is a Barcelona player.}

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06 Oct 2015 11:05:34
Why let it concern you? He is a great player who should be achieving great things. Nothing we can do if he wants to leave. All we can do is hope that whoever our new manager is can get LFC performing to full potential so that our best players don't want to leave. Even if he does end up leaving in January or in the summer, hopefully we will have a good enough manager in place to replace him effectively.

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06 Oct 2015 11:21:36
He is our game changer and a huge talent. More then losing a player like Countinho, I fear what is worse is that would send a clear message that we are a selling club.

I'm going to put full faith behind Klopp, if appointed, and would think top four is achievable. I'm sure having someone of Klopps stature, CL football which in its self shows progression and what future we may have. If that isn't enough for pip then we will get at leat 3 times what we paid for him. FSG have shown they'll reinvest, Klopp has shown he can buy well.

And on playground level of argument, we have Teixeria who can be as good with Klopps management and Coutinho will be bench warmer at best at Barca.

Whether it's Countiho or someone else, fact is our squad is almost all Rodgers, he bought 30 players in over three years. In three yrs time under Carlo or Klopp only a handful will be here, they'll have brought in their choices. One thing that remains throughout is the club.

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06 Oct 2015 11:26:11
I understand and agree Super. It's more the case that I don't want to lose our best player! We need him!

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06 Oct 2015 11:56:26
The Dortmund fans had the exact same conversation as this every year Klopp was there. He's an expert at coping with losing good players. I wouldn't worry when we have firmino at Liverpool anyway.

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06 Oct 2015 11:59:31
Quite simply, I agree with Coutinho, he's ambitious and we SHOULD be playing CL football every season. Our failure to do so will always cost us ambitious players. So let's try to make sure we are finishing in the top four at the very least. We have certainly let our standards slip in recent seasons

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06 Oct 2015 12:06:17
He is at the moment Bennett, but I really hope under new management (I'm not saying his name, I refuse to believe it at the moment!) that some of our current players who have previously been mismanaged can become superstars for us. By that I mean Ibe, Can, Markovic and Moreno etc. I literally cannot wait to see what Firmino can do when played in his preferred position. Don't let it get you down, let's see what happens first :-)

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06 Oct 2015 12:14:16
I'd prefer we move away from this "relying on one player" mentality and develop a squad that plays for each other.
Coutinho is far from irreplaceable. Let's get the 'team mentality' back

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06 Oct 2015 12:29:26
That's fair enough Super! Firmino is one I definitely have high hopes for!! And like you say, others may get the chance to step up to the plate as show how good they are!

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06 Oct 2015 12:48:21
I suspect if we bring in someone who inspires him and the team and we get CL he'll stay so let's not fret just yet.

I really hope whoever comes in plays Firmino and Coutinho off one another, could be dynamite with Sturridge also upfront to feed off the havoc they'd create together.

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06 Oct 2015 13:50:58
Ron is absolutely right! Coutinho is a very decent player (I'm not sure our best but very very decent) but it is a team game and reliance on one or even a few would be a worry. The other point to make is that, in certain circumstances, he can be our worst player (take this weekend for example - far from a player fit for the hassle and bustle of a derby game it seemed). Don't get me wrong I am a massive admirer like I say but this is a team game, in fact a squad game, and a manager that treats is as such, commands respect, knows how to manage personalities, etc will be the best to achieve.

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06 Oct 2015 15:36:28
Get over yaself man

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06 Oct 2015 16:49:23
I agree completely with Ron Keague.
Also, whether it's Klopp, Ancelotti or someone else, a new manager will want players who have the right mentality. Anyone who doesn't want to be at the Club isn't worth wasting time on.

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06 Oct 2015 18:44:37
For one Coutinho isn't that good and two who wouldn't want to play for Barca in that stadium with those players. Hopefully we will get an overinflated price for him. Hopefully we have learnt from many previous mistakes in wasting these huge fees.

All the best.

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06 Oct 2015 19:51:15
As Ron says he is far from irreplaceable. Apart from the odd screamer every dozen or so games what does he do any differently than lallana

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07 Oct 2015 08:16:17
Coutinho blows hot and cold while Llalana consistently under-performs for me. If we get Klopp I'd expect to see them both closer to filling their potential. They both have some serious ability in their locker but need the confidence and freedom to express it.

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08 Oct 2015 09:27:44
I said months back Coutinho would be next to go and got laughed at and had comments such as "why would we sell our best player?"
It is the model.
Buy cheap, add value, sell.

Next will be Clyne or Moreno as all other acquisitions recently we have paid over the odds for and are difficult to add value.

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06 Oct 2015 09:19:13
Ed2 have Liverpool contacted Klopp yet? There is such a media frenzy about the bloke but last I heard you say we haven't contacted him and he left the country?


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{Ed002's Note - Yes they have - and they have been speaking to his agent and other representative.}

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