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24 Aug 2016 09:15:00
Hi Eds

It has been very disappointing that we haven't resolved our left back issues. Will you be able to give a wrap up of what is in the pipelines regarding out goings and possible "incomings"? which i doubt there will be any

What we know thus far
Alberto to Fenerbache
Illori to Galatasary.

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{Ed002's Note - Balotelli will leave as well. Markovic will leave if a buyer can be found. There is no buyer for Sakho, so a loan seems likely.}

24 Aug 2016 09:25:21
Moby I think our incomings are done mate tbh.

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23 Aug 2016 22:12:42
Fenerbahce nearing deal with Liverpool's Luis Alberto
Source Telegraph.

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22 Aug 2016 13:05:28
Tiago Ilori will sign for Olympiakos. Fee in the region of 5m euros.

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22 Aug 2016 13:44:32
Really? If so its a decent price for the boy. I hope he can go on be successful with them. He did try hard for us and was given decent chance to show his skills.

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22 Aug 2016 14:26:23
So have we made money or broken even from him? If this sale is fact, we signed him for €7m, sell for €5m and inbetween acquired loan fees. I think Villa paid €2m for last seals didn't they? Even cut in half sounds like he has cost us nothing.

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22 Aug 2016 14:49:01
Who cares about money. The lad had his career hindered with us let him move on to where he can play and try recover his career. Sick of young players being bought with no long term plan he never got a look in for the first team.

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22 Aug 2016 14:56:57
Max Renn, what about agent's fees? Wages that weren't covered by loans? We most certainly have not made money or broke even. Let's not also forget the fact we borderline ruined a young players career.

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22 Aug 2016 15:05:42

3 games? Absokutely shocking. Even un those few games i thought he showed a lot of promise.

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22 Aug 2016 15:25:20
There is a reason he didn't make it and if he were good enough, he'd have played. Did he play at Villla? He just wasn't as good as we were led to believe.

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{Ed001's Note - that is not always true. There have been many players who have been good enough who don't get a chance. Speaking of which, good to see Suso starting for Milan.}

22 Aug 2016 15:40:50
Suso is the one. Remember when Serling and him broke through. Maybe would have been better giving Suso more time than that little s, ;? t.
Suso could be world class. Thank Brendan.

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22 Aug 2016 18:51:04
When he had his chance he was overweight and slow.

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22 Aug 2016 19:17:06
AR ay come on max lad.

He played against villa and that's it? That's enough chances. Bloody hell.

Really hope the academy players don't read this. They will be devastated.

And he did look unspectacular against villa but still solid, good compusure on the ball and fast. Just needs games and confidence. Something I thought klopp would of gave him.

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22 Aug 2016 20:04:45
There's so many posts about how the youngsters should play more. Not all the youngsters are going to make it to be the standard required. Liverpool have probably given more chances to youngsters than most of the other top 10 teams in England. Ilori and suso are 2 of many who had chances to shine in 1st team games and training but unfortunately just aren't good enough. Everyone likes it when an academy player makes it like fowler, Gerrard and carragher but not everyone will.

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{Ed001's Note - so not true, neither had enough chances in the 1st team, certainly not Suso who did shine on those rare chances he got. It takes years of regular football to develop, not 2 or 3 games. You are talking crap. Carragher was the target of the boo boys for years and was seen as a flop by a large number of fans in his early years. It took him years to develop into the mainstay of the backline that he became.}

22 Aug 2016 20:18:31
To be fair it's not like our defence has been leaking goals for the last three years and all our centre backs have been so consistent.

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22 Aug 2016 21:36:41
Out of all ilori got the least chances. What was it 2 years to get a start after taking him away from his home, a starting position in a very good team, shipped out on numerous pointless loans.

Then he gets what was it 3/ 4 games, one when he hadn't played for 6 months and was dead on his fit at 60 minutes.

Nowhere near enough and there is noone who can say any different with evidence that he got enough chances.

Shame, but glad he's going somewhere he will play

Btw noone is saying he is our savior, it going to be a world class centre half, just how young he is and how little games he has had. Look at players at Dortmund (ginter), Everton, Tottenham (Kane, diet, Ali), athletico, Southampton. You need to give a young player a real good run, if ilori had of had 10/ 15 games ina row and not shown any signs, it still wouldn't of been enough but at least it would of been much better than this.

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22 Aug 2016 21:56:09
well said edd01 suso always looked liked he could be a top player to me. And Ilori could not play any worse than skrtel. I can remember Carragher playing right back and every time he got in to a crossing position passing the ball back. Is that his fault or manager playing him out of position.

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22 Aug 2016 22:48:21
Carraghers 2 own goals against United.

The only time I really swore at him :-)

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22 Aug 2016 23:29:37
Teixeira didn't get a fair shot either IMO.

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{Ed001's Note - defo, if any player looked like he deserved more time it was him.}

23 Aug 2016 01:05:39
Good luck to Ilori, hope he wins the Europa with them.

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23 Aug 2016 07:51:31
We have wasted several potential world class youngsters over the last few years. Tiago Ilori, Joao Texeira and Suso by not giving them enough game time to grow.

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23 Aug 2016 12:34:10
If we gave all the youngsters 2 years to settle in, at least after 2 years they would hopefully be good enough to get us back out of the championship. All these young players Liverpool have not given a chance to in the past have gone on to other clubs and how many have become world beaters?

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{Ed001's Note - for gods sake this stupid comeback again. That is the most ridiculous way of judging whether a player could have been good enough if they had not had their way blocked in their formative years. The time when they usually make the most progress, but they can't do so when they are not getting first team football.}

23 Aug 2016 16:43:38
Ed1, you are pretty quick to accuse posters of talking rubbish but that is just your opinion. The posters are entitled to their opinions as well. Personally I am pleased to see Suso has improved and is doing o. k. but I do not think he would improve a top 6 EPL team and Teeira showed soe great flashes of form but went missing for long periods Illori? we shall see. I had high hopes for him, quick and skilful but an EPL CB? not so sure. Just my opinion of course :-)

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23 Aug 2016 16:46:55
Tex, Suso and Illori 3 world class players? Ridiculous.

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23 Aug 2016 17:31:39
CR I don't think the argument is about their quality but more about the fact we don't give our youngsters time and chances to prove themselves. A game every now and then isn't going to prove anything. They need a good run just the same as any new signing, possibly more so because of their age. You have to accept that there is going to be bad games and inconsistencies because of their age and lack of experience. Talent needs to be developed.

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23 Aug 2016 19:09:46
CR - Texeira went missing for long periods? When did he get 'long periods' in which to go missing!? 2 EPL appearances. that's all he got. It may be 'your opinion' but facts still speak for themselves, which makes 'your opinion' a load of old codswallop!

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{Ed001's Note - Teixeira looked a diamond whenever he played.}

24 Aug 2016 00:11:28
I think this is the Coach having all the power vs having director of football and a coach argument. Coaches always look out for themselves and take the safest option, add the premier league spending power, they always choose the buy a safe option instead of being given a team and being told to actually coach, teach and develop talent. You can tell when a coach is over his head, he stops coaching and becomes the manager, tried to outwit everyone, ironically, best managers never stop coaching and teaching. In the end, it's the young players that suffer by sitting on the bench.

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24 Aug 2016 07:45:54
Those players may or may not have been better than we know. Sometimes players simply don't get enough time in the first team.
Look at Villa playing Lescott and Richards over Okore.
De Bruyne or Lukaku not getting time to develop at Chelsea.

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24 Aug 2016 07:48:43
Football is about opinions. If we all had the same opinion football and this website wouldn't be what it is. I do agree with some of your point about giving youngsters a chance but with fans, owners wanting immediate success and managers futures riding on a few months performances. In my opinion you'll see less youngsters being given long runs of matches in the first team as the managers job is on the line. I'd like to see the likes of Arnold and brannigan given a run in the team. Maybe it's up to the club's to make changes to the u23 to make it more competitive and worthwhile?

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21 Aug 2016 22:51:57
Hey Eds and fellow reds, hope your all well. Just wondered if there was any truth in the rumours we've bid €5m for Martins Indi from Porto. I read that Porto want €7m though. Cheers guys ynwa.

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22 Aug 2016 08:48:38
I don't see why we would, for me our strongest cb pairing is yet to get on the pitch in Sakho and Matip, and then there's Gomez behind them.

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22 Aug 2016 08:58:07
He also plays LB. Bit like the Belgium CBs at Spurs who play full backs at International level.

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{Ed001's Note - he plays it badly though, even worse than he is at centre back, which takes some doing because he is not a good player.}

22 Aug 2016 10:27:26
Yeah but if I was going to buy a lb I'd want a square peg in a square hole, not a round one. Don't wanna see players shunted out of position anymore. Ed do you feel we are already stocked at cb, without considering the respective strengths/ weaknesses that is?

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{Ed001's Note - we have enough numbers. It is the quality we lack.}

22 Aug 2016 11:35:04
LFC will not be signing a LB during this window.

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23 Aug 2016 18:12:24
All those disagreeing with the post by jkh1983 is that because you think Liverpool will or you hope the club will. The failure to sign one when there was less rush, more time and options should be a clue that there simply isn't an interest in solving the problem when there are more midfielders out there to be signed.

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21 Aug 2016 15:38:34
Hey eds
Just noticed that we are interested in signing Leandro Parades, according to SSN.
Just wondering if you knew anything about it?

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{Ed002's Note - Roma's Leandro Paredes may be sacraficed to add to the transfer budget this summer after a season on loan at Empoli, but the club would like to hang on to him if they can. He has also been of interest to a number of clubs including Milan, Fiorentina, Chelsea and Manchester City. There has been an approach made by Monaco and an offer from Leicester. He has also been offered to Bologna on loan as part of a deal for Diawara, but he is heading elsewhere.}

21 Aug 2016 16:01:32
Don't know much about Paredes eds. Is he an attacking or defensive midfielder?

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{Ed002's Note - Defensive.}

21 Aug 2016 17:08:52
Would rather Medel if he is available.

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{Ed002's Note - Medel won't be moving to Liverpool.}

21 Aug 2016 18:33:30
Parades is not really defensive. He is a controlling midfielder like a Xabi Alonso.

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21 Aug 2016 18:49:46
He sounds simular to what we already have chaps tbh. Also eds has said above who has interest in him and the situation.

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21 Aug 2016 17:55:40
Ed1 said he believed incomings where over.

Is this just lazy journalism? There's calls for a cm and we watched empoli a lot last year (zielinski)

Or is this substance to this rumour?

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21 Aug 2016 19:31:08
Lazy journalism mate I would say. Eds would have said if there was anything in it.

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22 Aug 2016 01:51:17
He's comfortable playing back and has a wonderful long ball. with the speed we possess, would be a great skill to have to assist with the counter attack. Could be very beneficial. The CM's/ CAM's that we currently have want to play forward. He would go a long way in helping balance the mid field.

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20 Aug 2016 04:29:02
Hey eds, with Klopp mentioning Ings needs game time, is he available for loan or to be sold? Who would be interested?

Also, have we looked at loaning some players to Hull? They are a mess, only like 13 senior players, looking at a positive though, game time should be available for anyone that goes, maybe Ings, Markovic and a youngster?

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{Ed001's Note - Ings wants to stay and fight for his place. It is unlikely, as things stand, he will go anywhere. Though there is still time for that to change.

As for Hull, you are right they are a mess, so why would you want to subject players to that? They can't pay any wages, they are in the midst of a takeover, so the only thing you can hope for is that players might get game time. As we have seen in the past, often struggling teams will not pick loanees, as it is felt they don't have the same desire as the club's own players. It is best to steer well clear.}

20 Aug 2016 05:36:25
Thanks for a quick response Ed, always appreciate that. I wasn't actually aware of the fact that struggling teams don't tend to pick loanees, it's intricacy that has escaped me. I was just thinking about game time, fact that promoted teams usually struggle for goals and creativity, also I thought I saw something during the summer that game time would trump wages and loan fees, figured regular premier league game time would trump fees and would make loans of players like Ings, Markovic attractive to both clubs.

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20 Aug 2016 12:08:39
Ed. do you rate Ings, do you think he'll make it (regular starter or regular bench) this season?

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{Ed001's Note - I like him, he has won me over. However, it is difficult to see him make it with us, not with Origi looking so good. His only real hope is if Sturridge is moved on.}

20 Aug 2016 12:57:09
Origi is looking good.
Would be great if Ings does stay and to see what Klopp can do with him after seeing the transformation in Origi.
I like Ings myself. Adds something different

Thanks for the reply.

When is the Spain move going ahead?

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{Ed001's Note - 4th, so not long. I really should start organising things, but just not had the time yet!}

20 Aug 2016 14:08:51
Hope the move goes well Ed.
Always good to get your insight.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate I am sure it will. I am only going to stay at my parents for a while.}

20 Aug 2016 14:50:07
Think Ings will get some game time, and next season, we will be back playing lots more games and we will need him then . yes Origi has come on a ton, but he is still nowhere near his peak, will be some striker then .

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20 Aug 2016 14:56:41
In todays market and given berahino being worth close to £25m and our other forward options then maybe take "25m from a Stoke / West Brom for him".

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20 Aug 2016 20:09:10
Liverpool FC owners hire advisers after Chinese approach
The US owners of Liverpool FC have appointed financial advisers after an unsolicited approach by a consortium led by a Chinese investment firm Everbright and PCP Capital Partners, the private equity firm founded by Amanda Staveley.

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20 Aug 2016 22:56:43
Hull look to be a right mess with 2 wins out of 2. Wish we were in that kind of trouble.

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21 Aug 2016 11:53:02
I would love for I gas to come to Celtic on loan for 1 season, help us score goals in champions league and then return to Anfield and Fire you to champs league qualification at the very least.

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21 Aug 2016 12:12:15
You're picking our team for spurs away, Origi or Sturridge? Or neither?

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{Ed001's Note - Origi. 100%. Love Studger but he is not ready.}

19 Aug 2016 19:14:18
lazio in for balo? surely not.

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19 Aug 2016 21:29:02
Too good to be true .

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19 Aug 2016 11:24:46
Liverpool along with man city, spurs, west ham and a number or other clubs have had Walsall left back Rico Henry watched.

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19 Aug 2016 15:13:04
not heard about our interest so far, does anyone have any info on this left back .

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19 Aug 2016 18:22:27
He's quick, young and not ready for our level. One for the future maybe.

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19 Aug 2016 21:32:18
Thanks Max, I am sure we would all prefer a left back who can just slot in, and improve our defence .

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20 Aug 2016 06:47:35
Henry has been scouted by most premier league clubs, but no one has made an offer for him. Also, he has recently dislocated his shoulder, (again) and will be out for a while.

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21 Aug 2016 19:05:18
Question for anyone who has seen the lad, when people say not ready for our level, is that as in they'd be bottom of PL or championship level, or not ready for challenging for top 4 in EPL? Also regardless of that are they better than the Milner/ Moreno option?

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21 Aug 2016 21:28:12
He's a bottom half prem player at the moment but is improving everyweek. he's pacey, works hard and good in 1 on 1 defending. He does need to improve his positional play. Although he's not ready for a top club at the moment he is certainly an improvement on what we have.

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22 Aug 2016 17:37:33
young and extrmely mobile, IMHO Rico Henry is a talented footballer, but his lack of strength and defensive nous see him much more of a work in progress. No way he'd be ready for the first team now.

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19 Aug 2016 10:34:33
Hi Eds,

Any ideas what's going to happen with Illori, Wisdom, Luis Alberto and Markovic? They don't seem to have a future at the club but I haven't seen any clubs linked with them.

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{Ed002's Note - Ilori has been at the Olympics and will move if a club can be found - else it would need to be a loan. Wisdom - I would like to say a loan but I he could potyentially stay as cover (but then he takes up a squad place) - perhaps some work to do. Alberto will return to Spain. Fenerbahce wanted to sign Markovic but would not give certain guarantees. Fiorentina, Schalke and Roma are all clubs that have contacted his agent but it is Lazio who have had an offer rejected by Liverpool. Milan are open to a move but would prefer a loan.}

19 Aug 2016 11:12:11
Great reply Ed002!

I know you don't want to get into money but without going into detail, is Lazio's offer close to Liverpool's asking price or does that seem unlikely? Does that Milan loan seem more probable?

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{Ed002's Note - The Lazio offer was well short of the asking price and I expect Liverpool will want a sale rather than a loan.}

19 Aug 2016 12:31:53
Cheers Ed! We've commanded some decent fees for players we've sold up to press but I can imagine we're pushing our luck a little bit with one or two asking prices, Markovic included.

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{Ed002's Note - I would agree.}

19 Aug 2016 13:06:46
The club getting a taste of their own medicine getting offers well short of the asking price, hopefully it'll change how we handle making our own offers in the future.

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19 Aug 2016 22:50:07
ilori is in liverpool and staying at the hope street hotel I've just passed him 2 hours ago.

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18 Aug 2016 23:04:46
Oliver Burke linked with us now, young raw direct plays for Nottingham forest. He reminds me of Gareth bale (style of play)

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19 Aug 2016 00:43:01
Both Arsenal and Liverpool have looked at him, both teams are not interested in this winger, nevertheless Crystal Palace have put in bid in for him, which was declined by Forest, good chance they will return with an improved offer.

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21 Aug 2016 21:37:19
Interesting, so Palace sell a winger who is good to buy an unproven one - sounds like they're doing as well as us.

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