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02 Sep 2015 11:32:05
ED002 now that the transfer window has closed & if you have any time may I have your opinion on a few things please?

1) it seems like a lot of deals seem very inflated regarding fees i.e. sterling,martial,firmino,de Bruyne. now I'm not saying these transfers won't work out in the end & at the end of the day a player is only worth what a buying club is willing to pay but having said that do you think these inflated prices are panic buys or just how we can come to expect transfers in the coming years?

2) could you share your opinion on the window itself? I have read & heard many managers complaining saying that the window should close before the start of the season do you think that that is a viable & a good option to stop all players heads being turned before season starts?

3) could I get you to share your thoughts on who has donethe best business? I don't understand all transfer fees & everything else but man city's outlay seems extremely high with not much coming back the other way whilst I understand we have spent a fair few bob but have re-couperated a few bob too. then on the end of the spectrum arsenal have only spent 10ml or there abouts but might seem light according to the gunner fans. can i just ask what you think of the window in all?

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{Ed002's Note - (1a) They were not panic buys as such. Liverpool found a mug buyer for Sterling who were willing to pay way more than he is worth. (1b) Hoffenheim couldn't get a German side to pay the release clause for Firmino and Manchester City agreed a price but stepped away. Liverpool came in and managed to negotiate the truly ridiculous €41M potentially rising to €50M - another mug buyer was found. (1c) Martial - Guy Hillion had Chelsea in there talking about him when they were discussing loans with Monaco and they would have gone to €20M - probably a fair price and certainly their limit. Manchester United has paid well over the odds for him. (1d) Kevin de Bruyne - it is hard to see how he will be used with David Silva at the club still. PSG also discussed a move to Paris with his representatives. I expected to see Bayern Munich look for an early agreement with Wolfsburg to take de Bruyne as a replacement for Ribery in 2016, they had made their interest known, and for him to stay in Wolfsburg next season. This was also the solution sought by Volkswagen. However, I imagine Bayern backed away from such an investment - probably because of changes coming over the next year. Not a panic buy but a little strange and expensive. He was unhappy at Chelsea and I hope he has grown up a little.

(2) The seasons vary across Europe - shutting it when the season starts will be hardest on the leagues with most teams in the top division - including England. Personally I don't feel strongly about it either way. People bleat a bit at then end of every window but no one seems keen to push to change it.

(3) Liverpool has reasonably done well - but at a vast cost that will require some work to address before June. There seems to be a lack of thought about transfer policy still. Manchester City did well getting all but one of their four primary targets - but at a significant cost that will need work to address before June or a very good explanation. Manchester United filled the positions they were looking at, but critically not centre back. Arsenal should have added a striker and a centre back but didn't - critically they are waiting on a defensive midfield player who is first choice but injured. Took the stance of not spending for spending's sake. Chelsea failed with getting in a centre back and with their efforts on Pogba. They bought in cover, Pedro and a decent LB all at good prices. They have added some very, very good youngsters keeping one in the squad and have bought a couple of youngsters back from loan who are now in the first team squad. They need to go back and address the CB situation and will go back after Pogba or their plan B. Spurs should have sorted out the Berahino situation and have let Lamela go to Marseille. West Ham fans are pleased with their business - although I don't know anything of a number of the players. Payet is certainly the stand out buy. Newcastle look to have done well - Thauvin is a very good player but Ed001 tells me not impressing him so far. Stoke continue to spend wisely - they are going to be tough to beat once they settle. Ranieri looks to have done well at Leicester. Everton have gone down the route of buying a couple of fringe South American players - not convinced. Palace have invested well. Watford have gone for the mass changing of the guard - I don't know enough to tell. Swansea are a decent side who looked to have improved. Norwich still need a bit of a shake up. Sunderland don't convince me. West Brom have strengthened. Aston Villa are trying to get to a decent level of consistency. I have probably missed a few sides.}

02 Sep 2015 13:05:05
wow thank you so much for the extended reply. I really appreciate all the work you and the rest of the ED'S put in with this site & love to read all the views you guys & gals have.

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02 Sep 2015 13:53:47
For me Palace had the best window in the league.
Good mix there now of experience, and youth, technical players and powerful ones.

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02 Sep 2015 15:24:54
Magnificent ED02, Top draw mate. Quite a few clubs listed would surprise a lot of club and have done very well in the window. Really impressed by Stoke and Palace.

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02 Sep 2015 17:29:58
Thanks a mil ed02 great synopsis!

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02 Sep 2015 23:05:12
Palace did great, IMO.

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02 Sep 2015 23:48:21
Palace paid well over the odds for Wickham and let go of Murray who is a far better player,Sako is not bad on a free, Cabaye is a good player but came at a cost, a mixed transfer window for them.

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03 Sep 2015 03:00:28
Not sure what you class as vast cost to LFC but the net spend was about 21 mil for our buys.

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{Ed001's Note - no it wasn't. Not sure where you plucked those figures from, but they are wrong.}

03 Sep 2015 06:36:21
Why do people talk so much about net spend anyway? It's completely irrelevant and not how the books are done. A major problem we have is we lost three regular players who had little to no amortization in Gerrard, Sterling, and Johnson so essentially just cost wages whereas the likes of Benteke, Firmino, and Clyne will cost us like £15M per year plus wages. Added to which Balotelli and others may be on loan, but he alone will still cost us £3M or thereabouts this year. Really wish it were easier to sort out the cost of a player per year as I think that a much more important factor than some nonsensical 'net spend'.

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03 Sep 2015 08:16:43
Whether the cost is amortised or not, it is still a spend. Wages have to be paid regardless of to whom, so the net effect is the same, more or less - consider that Gerard, & Johnson were two of the highest earners, and Sterling would have cost £5million if he had stayed.

Maybe we over spent on Firmino, but he is obviously seen as important and if he turns into a world class player it will have been money well spent. Perhaps.

I think Man U are mugs, and Martial certainly appears to be a panic buy. 31m for a 19yo 8 goal a season striker. Time may prove this a shrewd buy, but right now it just looks desperate.

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03 Sep 2015 08:16:43
Whether the cost is amortised or not, it is still a spend. Wages have to be paid regardless of to whom, so the net effect is the same, more or less - consider that Gerard, & Johnson were two of the highest earners, and Sterling would have cost £5million if he had stayed.

Maybe we over spent on Firmino, but he is obviously seen as important and if he turns into a world class player it will have been money well spent. Perhaps.

I think Man U are mugs, and Martial certainly appears to be a panic buy. 31m for a 19yo 8 goal a season striker. Time may prove this a shrewd buy, but right now it just looks desperate.

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03 Sep 2015 11:57:13
Yeah, thanks Ed02. Great information. Cheers.

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03 Sep 2015 12:18:39
Thauvin has impressed me so far looks a very good signing

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03 Sep 2015 17:05:38

In the same post you said that Firmino can justify his price tag if he turns into a world class player but United are mugs for buying Martial. The irony is delicious, Firmino would need greater transformation powers than Optimus Prime to make that happen lol. Some people really haven't got a clue.

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01 Sep 2015 18:10:41
Llori on loan to Villa with a poss of a permanant deal, wtf the guy is a good player with great potential,do we know what were doing

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01 Sep 2015 18:28:56
Hope it is ONLY a loan, get the lad some experience as Rodgers isn't going to change his ways any time soon. Potential there if only coached correctly.

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01 Sep 2015 18:35:46
This is a redundant question as Brendan Rodgers is the luckiest manager in football. He is not good at man management with our youth players even though he inherited the greatest crop of youngsters that we have ever produced. How many of our squad have stepped up through our set up with the exception of Jon Flanagan and Jordon Ibe. He stated the we worked hard on our defence during the summer and had 3 dubious clean sheets before West Ham capitalised on our lack of leadership and positional sense at the back. Andre Wisdom & Tiago Ilori should be in our squad and Kolo Toure should have been released as well as selling either or both of Martin Skrtel and Dejan Lovren.

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01 Sep 2015 18:46:28
Would have been far better for the player to get experience with us rather than play the 2 morons that currently play,fact is BR has not got a bleedin clue

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01 Sep 2015 18:54:44
I should n't but nevermind eh :)Shame we can't loan out Bodgers with a guaranteed deal included !!

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01 Sep 2015 19:10:24
Greatest crop of youngsters we have ever produced ??

The exception of Jordan Ibe and Jon Flanagan. Why? He played them?

He could of got rid of Raheem Sterling ? Didn't we just get 49 mil for him (I know it gets split up eds)

We had 3 clean sheets that were well earned.

1/ would you of been happy if he had of broken up that back four unit and we would of lost 3-0

2/ without using the words drop him, how would you stop lpvren making that mistake ?

3/ the third goal, all season Gomez has been blocking them sort of efforts and if you watch it closely enough it shouldn't of gone in but through sheer fortune Gomez was a split second off.

I am losing patience myself with br, and as many times I have argued and been blocked by the eds. His tactical acumen does seem to be none existent. His substitutions look clueless and I'm even beginning to believe he stumbled onto the 3-4-3.

I hope I am wrong but when your 2-0 down at half time and he doesn't bring ings on and then he actually packs the middle even more and puts 3 at the back.

But time will tell. I am glad we have a solid group of players

Someone and hopefully Brendan can get the most of them but don't take everything away from him fellas.

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{Ed001's Note - we had one well earned clean sheet and two handed to us by terrible refereeing decisions mate.}

01 Sep 2015 19:22:43
I like a lot of lfc fans are bitterly disappointed that ilori never got a chance at lfc but in all fairness he looked 5th choice at best (might even have been 6th if you count gomez at a cb) I really hoped he might have got a chance in pre-season or some game time in cups & European competition but hasn't worked out. I do believe we needed to trim the squad a lot after our summer deals.

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01 Sep 2015 19:24:27
With a bit of luck the LONE RANGER won't be in charge when he returns.

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01 Sep 2015 20:03:26
Can't see the Ilori loan confirmed anywhere yet is it a done deal?

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01 Sep 2015 20:14:54
2 goals disallowed which should have stood. We need our back room staff to tell Rodgers how to get the best from our defence as he's clueless. Bringing in a defensive minded coach on a short term contract could help as we did when Steve Clarke was in our back room staff.

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01 Sep 2015 20:42:28
Greatest set of youngsters ever produced? hahahaha. Laughable.

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01 Sep 2015 20:49:18
Free Speech: Substitutions may not always be what they look like. A lack of goal threat may be because the midfield is not winning the ball and getting it up there, or the backs not able to run forward in attack, due to lack of cover.

That being said, I also agree that I don't recall too many inspiring substitutions by BR that seems to change the way we go about things. Boy i dream of the days when Paisley put in Fairclough to shake things up :-)

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01 Sep 2015 20:51:50
Confirmed on many sites now :-( this just makes no sense as others have put!

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01 Sep 2015 21:39:44
I'm guessing when Rodgers promised him game time he forgot to mention it wouldn't be with us. The way he treats our players, especially the youngsters is an absolute disgrace. He needs to leave before he does irreparable damage to our club

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01 Sep 2015 21:56:41
I'm not sure on the greatest crop ever,But certainly since about 1990. Depending how how you term produced. We haven't had this many youngsters truly knocking on the 1st teams door all at once in a very very long time if ever in my time. Ibe,Sterling(thought I'm happy to receive £35 million)Flanno,Kelly,Rossiter,Texiera,Suso(now at Milan),Yesil (hampered by injury),conno coady(now performing a wolves) Wisdom (consigned to loans and likely sold in the summer)Jerom sicnlair,looks likely to leave,but I personally think he would do well in the championship. We also have Sheyi ojo performing immensley atm,and harry wilson much is expected of.

A great many from the Liverpool youth teams over the past 3/5 years won't make it,but I have faith in a lot of these player and ex players making a long career,which is pretty much unheard of in British football

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01 Sep 2015 22:36:59
I have been consistent on this. BR has no idea what he is doing and constant lies to players and guarantees them playing time but only on loan to other clubs. Wisdom hasn't played a game for us for three years neither has Ilori yet some say Ilori isn't good enuff. How they know he isn't good enuff without ever seeing him play in a
Liverpool shirt is beyond belief. Maybe these fans can tell the future or they are just talking nonsense. BR will be our downfall and I'm just happy that if he doesn't make it here as much I like him to because in the end it'll mean we are progressing, he will have nowhere to hide and no one to take the bullet for him.

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01 Sep 2015 23:16:05
I want to take a moment to defend rogers. This forum has become a real platform to attack him. This is at least in part down to him being unpopular with some of the editors, who often air their gripes against him on here. They even made a special word in "brendened." Used to describe him freezing players out of the team, I myself would've thought rodgered would've been better, but perhaps the joke would've been lost on our American friends.

Anyway back to football. I don't think his record is this fantastic, but he has still down better than the resources we have would expectantly commanded. We have finished 7,2,6, with the fifth highest wage bill. Let's not forget that, times have changed, we are the fifth most powerful team in the league in terms of investment and spending power. The league often reads like like the wage bill. This the Merdoch premiership era. Realistically then finishing 5th is about what is supposed to happen. He has at least achieved this on average (as a mean of his 3 seasons.) he has pragmatically evolved his systems to accommodate both the moving trends in football and the players he's had. Gerrard was never going to play a slow short passing game, he created a more direct faster game and found a way to charge at the title. He made Suarez, skyrtel, Henderson, Sterling, Sturridge and Coutinho all work in the same team fantastically. Some of whom liked to have been "Rodgered" only the summer before.

He now faces his ultimate test, this is his team. No more big characters who demand a football team play around them (the brilliant gerrard or woeful Ballotelli.) he has his guys and is using his direct yet slow and varied football to show what he can do, he deserves this chance and deserves our support! What are we as liverpool fans if we don't support him for at least this year, we can turn on him if finishing fifth, the realistic place of liverpool in the premiership these days. (See wage bill observations earlier for details,) seems unlikely.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but are you taking the mick? FInishing below where he should two out of 3 seasons is suddenly doing well? He has not done better, nor has he achieved it on average, no matter your strange choice to try and use the mean, which is irrelevant here.}

02 Sep 2015 00:00:24
As Kit said earlier, a bit of perspective is needed here. The case against BR seems to be:
1. He is loaning promising players out who should be "given a chance" and is therefore clueless. Have a look at the number of players loaned out by Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Utd. Very similar. And their managers are all clueless too?
2. Players come in, are promised a run out, and are disappointed when they don't get a chance. Ummm, that doesn't happen at any other PL club, does it? No other top 6 team has to deal with too many quality players on the bench?
3. He isn't focused on getting a top-notch DM. That's not the way Liverpool play. Not when we came second, not now. Henderson, Milner, Can can all tackle and play forward. Get over it.
4. Transfers have been poor this summer. The fact is, no one knows four games in. But we're doing OK compared to most of our rivals and we seem to have more firepower than last season (Ballo and Lambert over Benteke and Ings, anyone?).
It's not perfect, I still think our defense is too brittle, but it's too early to write this season, or the manager, off.
I hope this gets posted - I've just put my hard hat on.

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{Ed001's Note - 1. Those four clubs have a clear plan for what they intend to do with those players, usually 3 or 4 years in advance, Rodgers has no plan at all. It is a case of bumbling around each window trying to decide what to do with each player. Those four buy these promising players explaining to them they will spend X amount of years out on loan before their progress will be reviewed and a decision made on what to do with them next. We buy them and the manager promises them games, then sends them out on loan. It is hopeless man-management and it can not be compared with the others, with thte possible exception of Man Utd, who also have a hopeless man-manager in charge.
2. Other teams don't do that, the players being brought in are not getting those promises only to get none of them kept. When Jose Mourinho brings in a player, he explains how he seems them playing in his system and then gives them that role.
3. When we came second, Lucas played 27 times as a DM, so we did play with a DM in that season, no matter what nonsense you made up in your head.
4. Not going to argue here, I agree it is far too early to judge, though again we brought in players we didn't need, which is always a mistake when resources are tight.}

02 Sep 2015 07:46:50
Rodgers has finished below Spurs, who have the 6th most money, 2 out of 3 times. I suppose this means that AVB and Ponchettino are simply better than him.

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02 Sep 2015 09:50:03
Rodgers said Lori was NOT going on loan again.

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02 Sep 2015 11:03:53
Free_speech96185 - Sterling was not a product of our youth system, he was a product of QPRs.

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02 Sep 2015 11:35:13
That's not his fault is it red Lenin. What we may aswel do by that logic is the only ones who get the credit for the players in the academy are the scouts (which is fair aswel they do the best work) but Brendan played sterling.

He could of said no and loaned him, same as ibe and flanno.

The eds say he was forced to use flanno through injuries but couldn't he of played hendo rb and jonno lb, we have seen how he does an awful lot of shoe horning players.

He does take the credit for playing them. I'm not talking develop or what not but he put them in the team, noone else.

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02 Sep 2015 11:44:04
Gabriel Shankley, if you want to use stats in that way (Rodger's 'mean'), then you should be aware that he is probably our second worst manager since the early 1960's, with Dalglish's second reign being marginally worse and Souness being roughly as bad.

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02 Sep 2015 14:48:05
'When mourinho brings in a player he explains how he sees them playing in his system and the gives them that role' are You taking the mick ed001? See Salah, Cuadrado, Debruyne, Philippe Luis to name but a few. You do make me laugh ed001 but I love you for it!

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{Ed001's Note - are you trying to be funny? They had a role but didn't perform. It is not difficult to understand. I worry about idiots that laugh at nothing personally, so run along and don't waste my time until you have something worthwhile to say.}

02 Sep 2015 21:35:44
I think because we're so close to Liverpool we can access it so in depth and up to the minute and we only watch from the outside at other clubs.

Alot of what happens here is happening at other clubs.

Athletico spent near 100 mil last summer and didn't push on from the year previous like us and they also made some transfer mistakes like us madzukic (who is a good player but not suited to them) & Cerci (ed001 after you have had a go at me for this post can you tell me how he gets paid to play football) and they shipped them out this summer and then spent another 90 mil this summer like us and there not guaranteed to win the league altho they spent the most in la liga this summer but the expectations here considering city added and didn't lodr anyone big, spending near 150 mil, Chelsea 60 mil, Tottenham 40 mil and man u 80 mil and they didn't lose anyone big again. Us we lost Sterling who we will miss for his sheer pace.

I think we just need to chill and take a step back because we're all ruining are days stressing about issues we have no control about.


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02 Sep 2015 22:57:10
Sorry if I upset you ed you're a bit touchy these days. At the end of the day they are football players first and foremost. Whatever position they think is their strongest position if the manager disagrees they should play where they are told.

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{Ed001's Note - touchy? No busy and don't appreciate idiotic comments at the busiest time of the year wasting my time.}

01 Sep 2015 17:52:13
llori loan to villa with option to buy - is this true eds?

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{Ed001's Note - certainly a loan is being done, yes, not sure about the buy bit yet.}

01 Sep 2015 18:23:30
So much for him replacing Skittles this season. Going on loan is bad enough - but with option to buy??? Really despair with how our club is run ATM

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01 Sep 2015 18:57:16
Someone at LFC has the brains of a rocking horse.

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01 Sep 2015 19:00:47
It says option to buy ed. Anyway you can find put mate. I hope its just a loan.

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{Ed001's Note - sadly it does seem to be true, certainly Villa were looking to buy him.}

01 Sep 2015 19:10:22
So yeah seems like when Rodgers guaranteed him game time he forgot to mention it will be at villa lol

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01 Sep 2015 19:21:10
I bet DR PEPPER has more sense and intelligence than our manager.

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01 Sep 2015 21:10:02
Come on guys a bit of perspective here. He's been at the club for 2 years and the manager and his coaches from last year and this year have not deemed him good enough. I bet half of you have barely seen him play and I'm sure none of you have ever seen him play in the premier league. If he goes on to be Canavaro in disguise I'll eat my words but I seriously doubt it. There are a lot of people who are more qualified than any of us to make this decision having actually seen him play and train. Yes something needs to be done about dumb and dumber at the back but I would suggest Ilori is not the answer, nor has he ever been. You're always at your best when you don't play it would seem.

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01 Sep 2015 21:19:43
He'll be a starter for Villa in no time & we will look silly having let him go

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01 Sep 2015 21:49:11
only time will tell

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01 Sep 2015 22:42:48
Nonsense, Pips! Dumb and Dumber have been woeful at the back as a partnership so why not give him a go? He can't be that worse, can he? This idea that if BR is not playing him then surely he's not ready. When will he be ready if you don't play him, Pips? We bought him for 7m yet has never put on a red shirt for the first team for going three years. What does that tell you? It tells you that the manager is clueless and the fact that you are now taking his op on player readiness is baffling judging by his incompetence on this subject

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02 Sep 2015 08:47:36
sorry guys but do any of you actually realise that in spite of having bags of pace, Ilori isn't actually that good? or have none of you bothered to watch the lad.

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01 Sep 2015 15:53:59
Has Enrique rejected WBA eds mate?

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{Ed001's Note - last I heard he was thinking over 3 offers, WBA, Sunderland and another back in Spain but not sure who that is. I expect the Spanish offer to be rejected as the money is less.}

01 Sep 2015 16:15:00
Real Sociedad is the Spanish club I believe

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{Ed002's Note - And it would need to wait until January.}

01 Sep 2015 17:47:44
Marks out of ten for Liverpool's transfer window ed001 ?

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{Ed001's Note - mixed, extremely mixed, so 5. Not bad, not good, a bit of each.}

01 Sep 2015 18:12:14
I would give it 3. Clyne solid right back and Gomez but really not for now and not at left back. The rest i think money could have been spent on better or not at all.

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{Ed001's Note - I do agree with you, though I like Firmino, hence the 5.....}

01 Sep 2015 18:44:03
Not disappointed with the signings just frustrated we still haven't addressed the main problem that Liverpool have had for a few years now and that is an out and out defensive midfielder !!😒

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01 Sep 2015 18:59:15
I'd say the manager is the problem we have not addressed clueless is being unkind to the use of the word when describing BR

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02 Sep 2015 11:17:51
Gabriel Shankley, if you want to use stats in that way (Rodger's 'mean'), then you should be aware that he is probably our second worst manager since the early 1960's, with Dalglish's second reign being marginally worse and Souness being roughly as bad.

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{Ed001's Note - I think you replied to the wrong thread mate.}

02 Sep 2015 11:43:05
Arrrgh - I've brendened myself

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01 Sep 2015 13:53:21
hi eds. have aston villa made an enquiry for illori? If so is it a loan or permanent enquiry


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{Ed001's Note - yes, along with Sunderland, for a loan.}

01 Sep 2015 16:16:03

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01 Sep 2015 14:25:34
Aston Villa want Ilori as well, it will be up to him whether to stay or go.

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01 Sep 2015 08:52:46
Tiago Ilori has rejected a loan move to Sunderland.


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01 Sep 2015 10:51:23
Good lad, he wants to play for Liverpool, now give him the bloody chance to Brendan!

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01 Sep 2015 11:52:34
Rodgers does not like Illori so he won't get a chance.

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01 Sep 2015 12:56:12
Ilori can't be far off a match after last Saturday

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01 Sep 2015 13:39:35
Maybe if it wasn't BR in charge he would definitely get a game.

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01 Sep 2015 13:52:33
Don't blame the lad, he deserves a chance.

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01 Sep 2015 08:46:09
Eds do Liverpool hold an interest in Cheryshev? Is there a chance of a late move?

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{Ed002's Note - Real Madrid have had a few approaches from clubs interested in taking winger Denis Cheryshev on loan or permanently this summer with Kuban Krasnodar, Villareal, CSKA Moscow and Real Sociedad requesting a price. Previous interest from Everton went with David Moyes. Zenit and Metalist Kharkiv dropped whatever interest they had. Valencia spent their deadline day trying to strike a deal with Real Madrid, who have raised the asking price for the player to a level where Valencia stepped away. Arsenal spoke with his agent recently to ask if the player would be interested in playing in London, but I think he is happy in Spain. As for Liverpool, I am not aware of any bid at this time. I suspect he will stay where he is.}

01 Sep 2015 09:21:11

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01 Sep 2015 08:29:55
heard that Sunderland want to sign Ilori on loan today. just wanted to pass this one on to you guys.

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31 Aug 2015 22:11:39
Liverpool Podcast number 5 now posted. Benny Baller and Ed001 discuss the 0-3 Liverpool v West Ham match defeat at Anfield.

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31 Aug 2015 21:16:46
Taiwo Awoniyi has signed for Liverpool and the LONE RANGER has farmed him out to Frankfurt on loan for a year can't get a permit.

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01 Sep 2015 12:03:17
Well he's hardly being 'farmed' if he can't get a work permit to play in England. A season in the German 2nd division is the next best thing.
I'm curious why people are complaining about the loaning out of players, you think it would be better to have them sitting on their arses on Merseyside? I would have kept Markovic and probably Wisdom, but the rest are going to get experience and come back better players, except Balotelli of course.

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01 Sep 2015 16:14:51
The only thing THE LONE RANGER hasn't loaned out yet is his Horse TONTO !!!

He is saving that for when he rides out into the distance as far away from ANFIELD as possible please, he will be able to go round all the clubs he has loaned his PUDDINGS too on TONTO.

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02 Sep 2015 02:12:55
Just for the record, last time I checked, Tonto was The Lone Ranger's Native American sidekick.

His horse was called Silver.

Just saying'.

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31 Aug 2015 18:17:31
Benteke not trained with Belgium, sent for scan on thigh injury.

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01 Sep 2015 14:48:23
Ah ffs!!! Seriously.please not yet another striker we sign that spends more time on the physio table then on the pitch :(

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31 Aug 2015 17:55:42
Ed was it a case of Sunderland simply offering more money than Inter in the end? Just trying to understand how things changed so suddenly.

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{Ed001's Note - no, the deal with Inter fell through.}

31 Aug 2015 21:33:28
Hi Ed do you know why Borini changed his mind? I didn't think he was prepared to go there.

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{Ed001's Note - he wasn't left with a lot of choice.}

01 Sep 2015 02:04:25
Thanks Ed - I thought it was but I was surprised anyway - let's hope it works for him; he certainly played better with the games he had with them (Man City at Wembley to name one).

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01 Sep 2015 09:19:37
I thought his decision was based on his wife wanting to stay in the UK. Though I could be wrong.

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01 Sep 2015 10:56:47
She wanted to live in London, not Sunderland, but there was no offer so preferred Milan instead. It wasn't his choice in the end, as Ed said the Inter deal collapsed, it was Wearside or oblivion then.
Good luck to him, I honestly hope that regular starts allow him to become a successful Premier League player, he never had that at Liverpool.

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01 Sep 2015 11:05:10
He was treated terribly by the club and never given a proper chance. yet another tale of and casualty of systemic player mismanagement - something Ed002 alludes to all the time.

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01 Sep 2015 11:06:14
Hey thanks for the clarification. Good lad he is. Hope all goes well for him

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31 Aug 2015 16:47:21
Press reports linking us with Yarmolenko and/or Blaszczykowski again Eds - anything in these rumours?

Also talk of a RM bid for Moreno - any truth in that? I guess the player wouldn't turn that down!

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{Ed001's Note - nothing as far as I am aware in any of those. Madrid are busy trying to sort out De Gea and running out of time fast.}

01 Sep 2015 22:46:18
Kuba has moved to Fiorentina. That is Blasczykowski's nickname

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31 Aug 2015 13:19:26
Sergi Canos off to Brentford on loan.

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31 Aug 2015 17:36:15
i have supported lfc now for 42 years and it hurts to see that we have become a middle of the table team and become a selling club and not just that we are a loaning club now as well when will all this stop and we become the mighty reds again that we used to be i don't think brendan rogers gives the like of markovic ings a chance why bring danny ings who was playing regular football to sit on the bench or does he now send him out on loan like all the others we should be in the top 4 every year one dissapointed lfc fan

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31 Aug 2015 20:29:08
We wouldn't be if we get rid of rodgers soon and he takes a few of the over priced crap he bought

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01 Sep 2015 11:24:36
cogsey - we're stuck with Rodgers now until next summer at least. It's far too expensive getting a decent manager in once the season is underway. Hopefully he will come good this season, but I have my doubts. We' were lucky in our first 3 games and git what we deserved against West Ham - spanked. We start a run of very very hard games in ust under a fortnight and e are going to be seriously found out I feel.

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01 Sep 2015 22:47:22
We shall see if he will keep his job after game 11 vs Chelsea.

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31 Aug 2015 11:55:08
Just read in my local paper that derby are interested in llori on loan with a view to a permanent deal

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31 Aug 2015 12:44:28
Considering we've had so many dealings in the past with Derby for loans, this wouldn't surprise me

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31 Aug 2015 10:58:07
Borini off to sunderland just anounced on sky sports £10 million agreed.

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31 Aug 2015 11:18:20
Good deal for all concerned I think.
7/8 mil + add ons isn't it?

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31 Aug 2015 11:33:19
He is having medical at Sunderland.

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31 Aug 2015 08:28:37
Any truth in the paper reports that West Brom are trying to get Jose Enrique?

Could be a good solution all round!!


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{Ed002's Note - They enquired in early July with his agent but it never went anywhere because of wage demands - perhaps they have asked again. They have sustained an interest all summer in Inter's Nagatomo but I expect him to be subject to an offer from another English club today.}

30 Aug 2015 23:13:45
Borini to Sunderland, fee agreed 10 million.

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31 Aug 2015 10:43:50

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30 Aug 2015 21:23:12
Are we interested in a late move for Yarmolenko?

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

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