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08 Aug 2018 21:56:51
Reading that palace have offered £18 million for Origi. Not sure if it's true, but if it is and we manage to get £20 million for Ings too that's good business on the last day.

Can anyone confirm if mayo ice has been sold yet?

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08 Aug 2018 22:25:46
Would be best for all parties if true (origi) . With sturridge looking Sharpe and shaquiri we have enough back up scorers. Imgsy though I would love to get a year from him and loan out Solanke.

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08 Aug 2018 23:50:47
Fekir to Chelsea?
Lordy, my prayers have been answered.

Their recruitment is all over the shop lately.
Where's the Grand Plan now?

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{Ed0333's Note - all over the shop how so?

09 Aug 2018 01:31:51
Not really sure how you can say they’re all over the shop. Once again Chelsea thrives in the seemingly chaotic window and comes out with a pretty good transfer list.

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09 Aug 2018 06:08:20
Late change of manager and system of play?
Over-priced late signings, loans replacing failed signings, was Fakir a number 1 target or are they happy with a Liverpool reject, signings that may hinder the development of home-grown talent (specifically Loftus-Cheek), a failure (so far) to deal with the lack of goals (striker)?

The late movement all feels like a rushed appeasement for their star man.

I would never write off Chelsea because they've gotten in quality people but it could take time to bind together, and how much patience the owner and Mr Hazard are prepared to show may be interesting to note?

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09 Aug 2018 06:21:20
Maybe Fekir will play as a striker for Chelsea.

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09 Aug 2018 08:03:47
We seem to be happy enough with a Chelsea reject.

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09 Aug 2018 08:02:15
Haha, Chelsea’s window has been a sh*t show lol

I think the only positive they can take is they’ve held onto Kante and Hazard, which is basically the Spurs mentality for transfer windows 😂

I think we have had far and away the best window. Arsenal have also tried to shore up some problem positions.

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{Ed002's Note - Lyon approached Chelsea because they have been interested in Fekir in the long term and oasked after the player earlier this summer. Arsenal has even longer standing interest as do a couple of other clubs. The posts from Liverpool supporters are getting embarrassing again.}

09 Aug 2018 09:07:29
if signing a quality young keeper, kovacic, jorginho and potentially fekir then I've woken up in an alternate world?

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09 Aug 2018 09:24:28
Wow NK, you are blatantly too bitter mate.

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09 Aug 2018 09:37:20
They've had a good window and addressed problems, this post just sounds bitter. Focus on Liverpool!

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09 Aug 2018 09:06:18
Well said ed002. Can you just imagine if Liverpool went for Fekir now how embarrassing would these posters look. Not that we will be until January that is.

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{Ed002's Note - You don't think they are working on it as I type then?}

09 Aug 2018 09:45:58
87red, I think that is the only explanation. I had thought they got in some decent signings until I read the above and found out I was clearly wrong! haha.

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09 Aug 2018 09:46:19
I do think Chelsea need a striker though, unless Morata pulls his finger out.

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09 Aug 2018 10:03:13
Nope, still can’t work out ‘mayo ice’?!


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09 Aug 2018 10:04:45
Seriously, we have had a great window and we already have a fantastic team. Let's just look forward to the new season. I'm absolutely salivating ;)

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09 Aug 2018 10:28:09
I think we have had a very good window and as fans should be appreciative.

It also looks like Chelsea are going to end up having a good window if not a bit late. If they get Fekir good luck to him, i personally hope we don't go for him purely based on the reservations we have on the previous knee issues he has had. If we feel that strongly about the injury that a transfer falls through, don't go back in.

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09 Aug 2018 10:35:49
You never had “mayo ice” Zed?

Lovely stuff 😋.

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09 Aug 2018 10:44:48
I’m not sure if I’m on my own here but for me Chelsea look really strong on paper, if they can get a striker in they are bang in with a chance of challenging.

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09 Aug 2018 11:35:29
We have a fantastic team/ squad on paper but have nothing won yet. let's not get carried away. It will be interesting to see what the posts on here will be like if we dare to draw a few in a row or heaven forbid loose one.
Having said that I'm really looking forward to the season ahead but realise we can't win them all YNWA.

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09 Aug 2018 12:15:55
Yep, Chelsea look like they're a striker away from challenging. Lfc only need Lovren to keep up the consistency he's shown since January and we'll have a team capable of winning trophies.

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09 Aug 2018 12:48:49
Did I read that right? Fekir a Liverpool reject? Tad harsh if you ask me? I know he has a sore knee from previously falling over off a climbing frame but a reject? World Cup winning reject eh who knew?

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09 Aug 2018 10:09:44

When you say “they” are working on it as you type, are you referring to Liverpool working on signing Fekir, or Chelsea are working on signing Fekir?

Or have I completely mis intetpreted what you wrote there?


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09 Aug 2018 10:41:37
Hiya ed002. When you say. (so you don't think they are working on it as I type) who do you mean lfc or cfc.

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing will happen with him now.}

09 Aug 2018 17:13:52
Mayo ice? Markov?

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09 Aug 2018 17:52:20
Haha maybe a few too many wines from me 😳😂

But in all seriousness I do think we have had an amazing window and I am not bitter at all, not sure what I would be bitter about haha they’re not even in the CL.

Personally it looks like Chelsea have just treadead water by replacing their keeper with a less proven player, got ANOTHER CM on loan (not sure where they’re all going to play🤷🏻‍♂️😂) and still haven’t signed a striker that can put the ball in the net.

Agree to disagree I suppose though.

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10 Aug 2018 18:18:31
Mayo is not eggsactly what I look for in an ice cream flavour, Ron 😉🤢.

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08 Aug 2018 14:15:18
I see rumours of Crystal Palace bidding for Origi. Around 15M.

Sounds plausible.

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08 Aug 2018 15:31:19
Plausible but I'd guess we want more. Over 20 probably. Rightly in my opinion.

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{Ed0333's Note - 20 mill for origi. We talking money or peanut M&M’s? If we get 20 million for origi I’ll be Ed’s 001’s bitch for the season.

08 Aug 2018 16:19:54
Not even in a world were Richarlson is 50M ed?

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{Ed0333's Note - to my knowledge Richarlison is circa 35 million the rest is add ons. No mate even in a word where Troy Deeney was valued at 30 million once upon a time Divock Origi is not 20 million. If Edwards gets that amount he deserves a statue at Anfield.

08 Aug 2018 16:22:33
Think they should cut their losses and accept all reasonable offers for them just to get shut.

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08 Aug 2018 16:31:52
We bought him at around 10mil plus the fees we got for loaning him back for one year. Anything above that should be acceptable, given that he never really made it to the first team.

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08 Aug 2018 18:14:08
I agree with Ed’s 20m is silly. He hasn’t proven himself and people are not paying for his potential they are paying for the player he is now. Which in my opinion is no more than 15m.

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08 Aug 2018 18:49:56
Richarlison is £35m plus addons realting to how well Everton do in the future. In other words, £35m.

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08 Aug 2018 19:01:26
He's tall, quick, strong, premier league experienced.

Minimum of 20, if they want him now then they might just have to pay a little more aswel.

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08 Aug 2018 19:06:14
You missed out a key factor. He can't finish! Kinda key for a Striker in the Prem.

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08 Aug 2018 19:11:33
£15M is a reasonable fee for Origi, If I remember correctly Wolfsburg paid £6M loan fee for him last year, so we can pretend the fee is £20M+.

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08 Aug 2018 19:21:29
That comment, hahahaha.

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{Ed025's Note - not funny one little bit imo..

08 Aug 2018 19:37:21
It'd be a shame to see Origi go because I always believed he'd break through but if he does go fingers crossed he can crack on and do well for himself/ new team. I agree with you ra, any profit on what we paid would be a good deal now I think.

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08 Aug 2018 21:49:51
He's not really impressed or performed at the required level or consistently, either for us or away on loan. I wish the lad well but for his sake, and ours, it's better he leaves whatever the price may be.

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08 Aug 2018 22:04:27
Origi has played 2 full seasons in the Prem as 2nd/ 3rd choice striker and has scored double figures both times.
The top scorer last season outside the top 6 scored 12 goals.
Origi as the main striker in a decent team will score that and that why he's worth £20mil in this market.

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08 Aug 2018 22:13:48
Agree epic that other 15 m is pretty safe for Everton.

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08 Aug 2018 23:01:30
I’m a World where Richarlison is £35m Origi should be worth £50m of anyone’s money. He will be a great striker for someone one day. Richarlison is just not very good.
I’ll never understand why Everton paid so much for Richarlison when Calvert Lewin it’s actually a better player. Is it because he’s Brazilian? Yet more gross mismanagement from the toffees that will see them relegated eventually. You mark my words.

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08 Aug 2018 20:07:09
Sorry Ed025. Was just trying to lighten the mood a little.

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{Ed025's Note - thats fine EP, if we cant give each other a bit of stick now and again then whats the point?, keep it coming mate..

08 Aug 2018 16:34:48
Ed033 we as a club seem to always over price our fringe players mate. Do you no why?

It's been said for weeks that we will be busy with outgoings but here we are with one day to go and still have so many players that will clearly get limited playing time.

The likes of

Mignolet Clyne Origi Ings Grujic amongst otherso still on our books swelling the squad and wage bill just doesn't make much sense to me.

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{Ed0333's Note - to be honest mate I think it’s a case of being shafted continuously and the club have had enough. We always seemed to be Aldi or Lidl, other clubs knew they could always get a bargain from us and it seems someone up top has said enough is enough, which I wholeheartedly agree with. I think the high valuations started with the nippy Aussie fella whose name I can’t remember and Ibe. We got over market value for both in my opinion and it set a trend. There will be times that we’ll still let a player go cheap but I think that’ll be the exception rather than the norm. The players you mention will all be gone by the end of the month bar Clyne I think.

09 Aug 2018 01:10:34
Kloppbanger we can still sell players to european clubs for the next three weeks so its not one day to go.

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09 Aug 2018 06:54:30
What if a European clubs wants to buy a premier league player after our window shuts, Can they offer cash plus player? Or can players only leave our shores in this strange early closing malarkey?

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{Ed001's Note - can only leave.}

09 Aug 2018 01:03:10
That's a great point Ed333.

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{Ed0333's Note - why thankyou Mr Salah and I thought of it all by myself 😂

08 Aug 2018 12:44:20
Heard Liverpool we look at Ross turnbull as a back up keeper should karius move by the end of the month. tom heatons name was also mentioned but he would need concluding before deadline so unlikely imo.

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08 Aug 2018 14:10:12
Wasn't Ross Turnbull a joke Ed002 made the other day?

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09 Aug 2018 09:38:28
Or was it a joke? I saw his comment and assumed it was but perhaps it wasn’t!

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08 Aug 2018 10:28:54
Ed002 as you were Lyon game last night did you hear anything on Fekir? Reports suggest he could move to us or Chelsea by tomorrow is he likely to move?

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{Ed002's Note - There was no mention of Liverpool - the club try to screw Lyon around and there has been nothing since. Chelsea has quite a lot of business to be completed still but had to first resolve their GK situation which has been done. Fekir was not available to play last night but his agent was around. I was nowt aware of anyone from Liverpool being there, and don't forget Klopp added Shaqiri to take that role.}

08 Aug 2018 11:48:38
That is bad news Ed002. Come on, you could at least keep our hopes alive. Don't kill our d-day!

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{Ed002's Note - If Liverpool wanted him they should have not screwed around. If they want him now they should pay the asking price.}

08 Aug 2018 11:49:05
Regardless of Fekir coming or not. I thought the Shaqiri deal was more a back up option than him playing a cam role and that we still wanted a "Coutinho" replacement. Has the situation now changed?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything changing.}

08 Aug 2018 17:21:48
Shaqiri has been class pre season. I am more than happy to stick with him rather than someone with a dodgy knee. If we were to go for anyone during the next 24 hours i would much rather it be someone like De ligt as i feel gomez, Lovren and Matip have injury issues.

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08 Aug 2018 18:50:37
Well done to Ed002 for staying awake at last night’s Chelsea game (my youngest is a fan for some bizarre reason) . I thought most of the starting XI were pretty poor including former loanee Moses. At least it perked up briefly in the 2nd half. It maybe I just dreamt that. No-one there from Lyon for LFC to get that interested in. Maybe Aoaur. Maybe.

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{Ed002's Note - I was at the match but didn’t watch it. I was busy doing other things.}

08 Aug 2018 19:02:13
You missed *nothing*.

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08 Aug 2018 19:44:01
ed know a bit cheeky but any chance anything on chelsea and fekir
thanks alot.

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{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}

08 Aug 2018 20:53:52
Rumor has it that ed002 was at Lyon to negotiate the fekir deal taking a barber with him to give the player a stupid haircut before it is announced.

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07 Aug 2018 22:29:05
Just seen this, hope it's true.

HUGE! Liverpool Remain In Talks To Sign Lyon Attacking Midfielder Nabil Fekir Before Deadline Day.

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07 Aug 2018 22:48:20
Hope it is true too mate.

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07 Aug 2018 22:54:36
Someone taking the piss probably.

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07 Aug 2018 23:21:51
Judging on the latest rumours, he is either Chelsea bound or staying at Lyon. Probably just Aulas being Aulas.

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07 Aug 2018 23:30:12
When I see something like , HUGE!, or RED ALERT, I almost always look the other way. The media is desperate.

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08 Aug 2018 07:39:00
This has been done to death. Just wait and see, it’s not long to Christmas kids 🤦🏼‍♂️😂.

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08 Aug 2018 09:48:23
Chelsea bound.

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08 Aug 2018 09:55:42
Oh it's true. It's damn true 😁.

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08 Aug 2018 10:12:35
Where did u see it? I reckon we will sign fekir. Just a hopeful guess but fingers crossed.

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08 Aug 2018 17:26:26
Plain and simple guess work by the media.

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07 Aug 2018 19:14:36
No joe Gomez in the squad tonight. Injured? Looks like we might end up playing Phillips v West Ham.

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07 Aug 2018 21:09:15
I think Fabinho is more likely to play if desperate, Gomez may just be rested for precaution.

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07 Aug 2018 21:33:42
U are kidding me Gomez injured that's crap I hope not won't lovren be ready or last resort klavan, it's mad we haven't learned from last season this current squad is vulnerable too injuries I am talking bout the original players from last season matip, Gomez, lovren, matip, lallana, clyne, sturridge, even Henderson at times with his heel problem, there's 7 players who are in danger of any time picking up injuries that will hurt us, I still think we are short of another defender and flexible attacker for front 3 don't get me wrong been a great market for us but can't help feeling we will regret not going all out .

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07 Aug 2018 22:47:16
How many more you want to buy?

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07 Aug 2018 23:15:51
2 a defender and an attacker, when we finished last season we needed a def mid, a no 10, a keeper, a midfielder, cover for front 3 and a central defender all ours made of glass.

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08 Aug 2018 01:52:29
You do realise there’s a 25 member squad limit?

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08 Aug 2018 06:44:01
HAHA. you just about named our whole squad . and matip twice lol.

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08 Aug 2018 10:09:43
If we buy to many players for the ‘what if’ scenarios then what’s the point in having the youngsters? They need to see a way into the first team.
We need to sell now, not buy.

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08 Aug 2018 10:40:35
Klopp has said Gomez is fine, relax.

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07 Aug 2018 11:37:52
I mentioned the other day Bernard who recently left Shatkar is being reviewed by LFC but the rags are stating it is Everton that are after him. Still feel my source is good on this one - let's see, a great signing in my opinion.

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07 Aug 2018 11:59:40
Hi King Carlos I read what you put mate that he was invoted to train with us but nothing been confirmed by any of the Eds or by the club so I can't see it being true mate.

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07 Aug 2018 18:22:44
Surely if he was training with LFC, Macca would have said something.

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07 Aug 2018 19:59:53
I can't recall exactky, but I don't think macca said anything about allison did he? Not hatin, just sayin i don't think its possible that the eds have ALL the info all the time, even tho when it is shared its the most trustworthy. In the meantime let the rumours fly!

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08 Aug 2018 09:03:42
Faithinworks, Alisson didn't train with us prior to signing, which is what is being claimed about Bernard here. If he was training with us, either Macca or the eds would know.

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08 Aug 2018 11:26:32
EpicPotato - where do I say he is training with LFC? He is being reviewed. Funny how the rags picked up on this 24 hours after I posted but mentioned Everton, which could be entirely true.

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07 Aug 2018 00:48:39
Hi ED's Hope all is well with you all and thanks for all the hard work you all do for us.

Just a quick question . I believe Nabil Fekir still wants to join Liverpool, However does Klopp still want the player?

Thanks Again Ed's.

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{Ed001's Note - yes.}

07 Aug 2018 06:23:10
Do you think a deal can be reached in the coming days ed01? Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - can? Of course it can. Pretty much anything 'can' happen.}

07 Aug 2018 06:56:16
But will it is the question lol?

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07 Aug 2018 08:08:18
Aren't you supposed to cross somebody's palm with silver when you ask them to gaze into their crystal ball?

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07 Aug 2018 10:21:51
Not this again chaps. Fekir not happening as has been explained. No contact with Lyon since pre world cup as has been explained. 2 days left of window with the only possible a GK as has been explained. We have our lot.

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07 Aug 2018 10:54:08
I am not suggesting that any media source is accurate, however radio city did report this morning that, 'Chelsea are favourites to sign former Liverpool target Nabil fekir', I am sure ed01 or ed02 could perhaps shed more light on this. Having said that, if Lfc are now not interested then it would be a question for the Chelsea page!

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{Ed002's Note - If it is discussing "favourites" one assumes it is talking about gambling and I can't help you there.}

07 Aug 2018 11:14:46
I’m guessing this simply comes from journos considering who’s potentially available to replace should Hazard be tempted away, and the list of quality wide players that clubs would be prepared to sell now is quite short.

I doubt Fekir himself would consider unless the interest from Liverpool really is completely dead, which is doesn’t seem is the case.

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07 Aug 2018 11:28:50
Makes sense what you are saying SCred however it seems we are prepared for the likes of Chelsea to bid for him meaning we can't want him that much else we would of contacted his club by now.

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07 Aug 2018 15:11:48
We're also a bit heavy in midfield now.

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07 Aug 2018 17:00:29
I do think we need to hurry up and sell/ loan some - I don’t see Solanke or ings going abroad to be honest.
Can loans still be organised after Friday?

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{Ed002's Note - Not to English sides.}

07 Aug 2018 18:22:15
English clubs cannot register players after 5 pm on Thursday. However, other clubs can buy and register players until the 31st.

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06 Aug 2018 13:25:08
Just wanted to know if any of the eds had the latest info regarding clyne
Surely he can't be staying here for another season but if he is I will support him as per usual but really hope he gets a move somewhere else as he really hurts us attacking wise when he plays.
Decent enough player but I think our style of play and tactics don't suit his strengths.

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{Ed001's Note - there has been little interest in him due to his injuries last season.}

06 Aug 2018 13:49:23
A bit late now to get a good right back in, I don't see him going anywhere. As poor as he is offensively, he's pretty good defensively and we need that more than his attacking attributes.

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06 Aug 2018 14:19:37
personally I see Clyne as 2nd choice RB this season with Gomez being an option for CB. Matip will likely spend a lot of time injured so I reckon they'll be enough games for Gomez at CB and Clyne is decent enough to play a few cup games at RB.

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06 Aug 2018 18:28:19
I agree, I don’t think he’s that bad as a second choice, as long as his hearts in it. Worst comes to worst and he plays a few games, he’s experienced and hopefully can hold his own defencively.

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06 Aug 2018 19:23:37
There's been nothing wrong with him defensively so far, just his fitness. If is heart isn't in it, he won't get game time. Simple as.

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06 Aug 2018 21:40:34
I don’t think he’s good enough as a back up RB, Trent is still young and will need to be rested now and again, that means your going to need to have to rely on Clyne for several games a season, I don’t think I have ever seen him have a good game for us, he would be the weak link and opponents will exploit that.

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06 Aug 2018 22:24:14
Exactly mikey, he's not good enough for this level of football, or even close imo. Defensively he is terrible, Trent is a young lad and is already 10 x the player Clyne is. I'd put Fabinho, Milner or Gomex before Clyne.

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06 Aug 2018 22:34:03
To say Clyne has never had a good game for us is rubbish. Yes there are better attacking full backs out there but I believe he has a big part to play this season. Trent has made the position his own but there
Aren’t many right backs out there better as a back up.

If u think there are then name them. The likes of Walker and Valencia are hugely overrated. Azpilaqeta (excuse spelling) is prob the best about but no chance of getting him.

At the end of the day we need squad players as well as starters to be successful, they can’t all be world beaters.

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06 Aug 2018 23:21:37
You can easily name several better right backs from Liverpool alone.

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07 Aug 2018 06:04:49
I like Clyne. Between him and Trent we have RB sorted.

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07 Aug 2018 06:45:53
Go ahead then Mikey. and remember, Fabinio wAs bought as a midfielder, Milner has proven himself in midfield and only played left back for one season due to necessity.

TAA and Gomez who will spend more time at centre back this year.


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07 Aug 2018 07:34:27
if Clyne plays a bad game, we’ll just have to score more goals 🤔.

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07 Aug 2018 08:11:14
How long has Clyne been here now? And Klopp too?
If Klopp thought Clyne wasn't up to the job, he'd be gone.
Ask Balotelli.

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07 Aug 2018 08:21:45
Problem is FTR who would want Clyne? that's why we're stuck with him mate lol.

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07 Aug 2018 10:09:12
Try saying we're stuck with him if Trent Arnold gets injured or suspended.

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07 Aug 2018 11:39:13
I will do mate because he still won't get a game, Milner or Gomez will be before him maybe even Fabinho.

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07 Aug 2018 12:56:44
Don't see that happening at all. Clyne still has a role to play this season, he'll play more at right back than any other player except TTA. Providing he's not injured of course.

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08 Aug 2018 04:13:00
Clyne and Camacho have played at RB. I don't think the other players will play there. Gomez hasn't been used much there lately so I think Klopp has moved him to his favoured CB position.

TAA and Clyne as second choice. That's the RB position for this season in my view according to preseason. Klopp has been playing everyone where he'll use them during the season I believe.

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06 Aug 2018 11:00:51
My first post was correct about Alisson and that the board changed their options after the Champions League final to bring in a stronger alternative than Butland.

But I have some new info I heard this morning - if the sales of Mignolet and Karius happen then Liverpool will look to add Tim Krul as our back up keeper. Krul is now a free agent so can be bought in after the end of the window, so Liverpool have until the close of the European Window to offload both Mignolet and Karius.

Not that shirt numbers drive transfers, but in this world do mean something to the players - expect Fabinho to take Mignolet's 22 and Alisson to take Karius' 1 if both are sold by the end of the week. Otherwise they will settle with number 3 and 13 respectively for this season only.

A recent rumour occurred that Liverpool were listening to offers for Clyne, but this was all hearsay as Fabinho use to play in the number 2.

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06 Aug 2018 11:19:48
Tim Krul plays for Norwich so the information is incorrect.

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06 Aug 2018 11:22:45
Hasn't krul gone to norwich.

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06 Aug 2018 11:24:21
Did Tim Krul not play for Norwich at the weekend?

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06 Aug 2018 11:24:31
Tim Krul started in goal for Norwich Saturday haha.

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06 Aug 2018 11:25:08
Tim Krul signed for Norwich last month and played on Saturday!

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06 Aug 2018 13:50:41
Back to the drawing board.

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06 Aug 2018 14:50:59
My sincere apologies, I certainly did mess up the information that was given to me.

I was told that we would be looking at a keeper like Krul who was a free agent with Prem experience as back up. I took it he meant Krul.

Feel like a right tool, sorry folks.

Let’s hope they get the back-up keeper situation resolved quickly.

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06 Aug 2018 16:22:54
Cheers pass lad. The majority of us appreciate it the rest are just sad acts who I think are just jealous they don't have no information so try and rubbish on everyone else's.

Your appreciated dude.

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06 Aug 2018 16:55:35
Nobody said anything nasty I think they were just jesting as Krul signed for Norwich a couple of weeks ago.

As you say hopefully we get sorted soon to save all this speculation.

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06 Aug 2018 17:03:28
Yes he your source used Tim Krul as example 😂 school time be back soon.

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06 Aug 2018 18:58:51
You feel a tool over the mistake of krul, oh my god how that's not cool, but don't get beat up we don't think your a fool, just read things right and play it safe.

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06 Aug 2018 18:59:42
All you done is repeat what macca said 3days before your post bout becker.

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06 Aug 2018 19:03:31
Sometimes you have to be Krul to be kind.

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06 Aug 2018 19:24:52
Ha ha ha, quality Squizza!

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{Ed002's Note - Maybe someone like Ross Turnbull.}

06 Aug 2018 20:12:31
I'd rather bring bruicey out of retirement than Ross Turnbull. One good season at Middlesbrough then off to Chelsea and never seen again.

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06 Aug 2018 22:41:21
Ross would be solid. Decent keeper, happy to be backup, happy to help the younger keepers out, unlikely to ask for ridiculously high wages. Would be a solid deal.

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