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15 May 2017 13:45:15
Are we really looking at Robertson and Macguire? i've only seen twitter rumours so im assuming nonsense, anything real attached to these EDS?
Id have thought with the prospect of Champions league we'd be looking at better players (and no disrespect to them at all intended, you get my point)
Seriously hoping we stop with all this 'potential' nonsense in the transfer market asap.

{Ed002's Note - The club have been watching Robertson in recent weeks.}

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15 May 2017 15:15:24
Robertson is better than any LB we have had since Aurelio. Take from that what you will.

15 May 2017 15:16:42
Same old Liverpool concerning transfer targets and especially British players. Hoping that we miss out on players speaks volumes.

Robertson is the left back version of Clyne. Not great going forward or crossing. Poor defender.
how are we improving on this season next season by adding more players that can't cope when we they are pressed or have no time and space? Robertson like cylne is a headless chicken.
I would love to know who has watched Robertson in our scouting system and thought the boys in anyway good enough. Or if it's Klopp that's a fan of him, someone needs to check his glasses.
There are a lot of question marks already in our back line. Adding Robertson will add further ones.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe the problem is the person choosing these players?}

15 May 2017 15:26:39
"Robertson is better than any LB we have had since Aurelio. Take from that what you will. "

Better than Moreno and Enrique 🤷‍♂️.

15 May 2017 15:43:11
Why is there an assumption among many fans that if the player we are interested in comes from a "lesser" team then he's no good?

15 May 2017 16:00:11
No one's assuming Robertson will be a bad signing because he plays for Hull. People believe he will be a bad signing because he is just not a very good footballer.

{Ed002's Note - You need to kick off a hate campaign - it is the Liverpool way. Pitiful to read posts like this.}

15 May 2017 16:02:13
He's an improvement on Milner which is all he needs to be if he's cheap. We aren't trying to solve the issue for the next 3/ 4 years just 1 or 2 while we wait for someone like sessegnon or some decent full backs to come on the market. If he's an upgrade on Milner (which he is) then jobs a good one.

15 May 2017 16:08:35
I am a fan of the Scottish national team- I have seen Robertson play at international level and I am certain he is not good enough to make it at the top level.
By saying that it does not mean I hate the boy.
I am just commenting on his footballing ability.

15 May 2017 16:25:37
I remember when we bought finnan from a mediocre Fulham side. He turned out to be the best right back I've seen play for us in my time. I reckon this hull lad will do the same. Be positive lads.

15 May 2017 16:24:29
There's no hate towards the player, how is expressing the fact that the player doesn't seem good enough to play at this level translate into hate. We're at a point where we are able to attract better quality of players with more money, better manager and CL football yet we are targeting the same calibrate of player. Some of us watch other teams play and have seen Robertson play and deem him not much of an improvement on what we have. In fact Moreno is superior to him going forward and not much worse than him defensively. We're not a mid table team to be targeting such players, I have no problem targeting players that are playing at a high level for 'lesser' teams but Robertson isn't.

Stupid excuses like 'if he had an exotic name everyone would be after him' is what mediocrity has done to some fans, either that or you don't have a footballing brain to tell whether a player is good enough or not. Robertson is a quick cheap option, something we have looked to do at left back and goal keeper, sometimes they work sometimes they don't. For Liverpool, more often than not it doesn't work out. We don't have the recruitment or scouting team that can pick a gem or a diamond in the dirt so I don't trust their judgement. We need to aim higher, but that doesn't mean signing a marquee name or spending buckets of cash, for example sessegnon is superior to Robertson, he isn't a marquee name, might cost slightly more but is superior to Robertson. And even though I'm not convinced by him either he would be the better option.

We need to be efficient this summer, spend money on the areas that are weak in the first 11 and that is it. Improve on the players we have playing in certain positions already. The left back has to be better than Milner and Moreno (stats show Milner has been better than Robertson) . The centre back needs to be better than Matip and lovren, etc. Otherwise we are just buying potential squad players again. We need to stop acting like a mid table team, especially when it comes to the defence. It doesn't mean all the players brought in will hit the ground running but it certainly increases our chances.

15 May 2017 16:49:30
What do you want from a fullback?

If it was up to me I'd have Dennis Irwin over Roberto Carlos.
I want a solid dependable defender not someone doing stepovers down the wing.
I don't know enough about Robertson though.

15 May 2017 16:51:57
Spot on, Kman92. Robertson is not the answer whether in the short or long term. That much is true. He has no end product to his game, no quality crosses and as some one said, he is simply a Nathaniel Clyne at LB (see his perf vs WH and we might as well have been playing with 10 men) . We need to aim higher and there are very good (not great) LB's out there and considering Robertson just smacks of laziness in my opinion.

We don't need a LB to be Roberto Carlos. We just need one who will defend well and offer quality service to the attackers, a huge part of Klopp's system and Robertson is not the solution. The scouts need to stop looking for easy outs and focus on improving problem areas in the team and not try to get bandaids in to fix a perennial problem.

15 May 2017 18:24:26
My original post said i didn't mean to be disrespectful to the boy and i certainly don't hate him but would i sign him given that we nedd some quality? No, is he better than anyone in the youth sides? There can't be much in it, i've seen him a few times and i fail to see what anybodies scouts would see that would make him hot property for a top 6 side, he's played for a side that has pretty much downed tools at times and im sure the money would be better spent elsewhere, in yesterdays game where palace destroyed them there was even a section of play where the lad on the wing was forcefully telling him where to run to create space, seriously? Does that smack of good enough for Europe? Not to me
This club needs to start setting its sights higher than competing with wba and west ham for players needed ( again no disrespect intended) thanks for the initial info ED02 i wasnt trying to stir up the troops, just trying to have a proper football debate lol no hate here from me just despair haha!

{Ed002's Note - You need to force Klopp out and get a manager in who wants the same players as the fans then.}

15 May 2017 18:33:43
Full backs first priority is to defend then attack or support the attack, we have not really had a player who could really do either well enough for years and those that can command a high price.
The full back position is undervalued but current and past successful teams have excellent full backs and something I hope Liverpool address this summer.

15 May 2017 18:59:51
*we don't have champions league football, will people
Please stop tempting fate. Even 4th gives us a qualifier, let's just wait until we're actually in the group stages before we start celebrating just yet.

15 May 2017 18:51:21
Kman - "better manager and CL football". Don't jump the gun. We still have a tough game to play first and it is not nailed on that we will win it.

Let's just keep our powder dry until things are sorted one way or the other.

15 May 2017 20:44:28
His stats are far worse than Milners in nearly every aspect, he's been part of the worse defence, second only to Swansea. He has definitely part of the problem in the last three or four games. It's got nothing to do with a hate campaign but more to do with the poor quality, his best attribute is his early crossing but with the type of player we have up front that isn't going to benefit anybody.

15 May 2017 21:10:15
I actually like Robertson. Really good crosser, gets up and down the line well, and is actually a lot more solid defensively in a back 4 than he is playing with a back 3/ 5. Probably not the best left back we could acquire, but might make the best sense for fee paid.

15 May 2017 22:18:28
Hi Ron and eds and reds
Fergie reckoned that pound for pound that Dennis Irwin was his best ever signing. 625 000 a steal.

It's hard to judge the value of money over time but who do you think pound for pound was Liverpools best ever signing?

DALGLISH was greatest ever but Stevie for coming through the ranks and staying with us must be up there with the best value for money.

15 May 2017 23:00:02
All acting like we've signed him pmsl.

It's actually quite common for a club to watch numerous players that play various positions during the course of a season.

Reading some of the above comments is actually quite laughable. Give your heads a good shake please!

We are watching the lad, what's the harm?

15 May 2017 23:25:04
Theres a few reasons where concerned about robertson.

Like pennant, babel, bellamy, johnson, skrtel, voronin, aspas, alberto, ballotelli, poulsen, konchesky, dossena, adam, diouf, diao, jovanovic, cheyrou, pongolle, cole, traore, cissokho, sahin, ngog, borini, xavier, nunez, allen, kyriarkos, lambert, markovic, moreno, insua, kromkamp, josemi, barragan, el zhar, klavan, degen, assaidi, yesil, manquillo, bogdan, jones, merieles, benteke, downing, carroll, enrique (ANOTHER LB), coates

Eveb the likes of clyne, mignolet, lovren, can, origi, ings, milner aren't great players. not knocking our boys.

Just we have to start targeteting a better type of cliental.

15 May 2017 23:29:37
A lot of people concerned about the people identifying potential signings and the quality of those players. Last time I checked those same people helped identify Mane, Gini, and Matip and those signings have worked out OK. Think Klopp and Co have earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to identifying targets. And as pointed out by by Coutinho o o we are just watching him at the moment so what's the harm?



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