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09 Aug 2017 20:04:45
Lets just say there is an African player based in Germany who has the same agent as Mane with a first name called Naby looking at houses in Liverpool, all the signs are good.

So here goes, and this is my opinion

VVD signs and Coutinho stays.

Sorry eds for causing a melt down on the site.

But feel we could do with cheering up.

VVD is purely my opinion and the rest is based on constructive information.

And i am not on twitter.

You heard anything Eds?



{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any further approach for Nobby by Liverpool although I am aware another side enquiring were told he is not for sale. They don't need the money and want to keep the team together and are very upset at what has happened. Liverpool can certainly make a move for van Dijk, the damage has been well and truly done but Southampton would probably still prefer to sell him elsewhere. Obviously there will be some further loss of face for the owners and the board if that were to happen. Barcelona will return to put a proposal to Liverpool regarding Coutinho who wants to leave to join them as you know. Liverpool will look to hang on to him. Personally, I don't know about Keita, I think van Dijk may well sign and I suspect Liverpool will ask one more year of Coutinho - but he would need to know that would almost certainly rule out his move to Barcelona.}

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09 Aug 2017 20:29:37
Would Barcelona not be interested next season then?

{Ed002's Note - I would very much doubt it.}

09 Aug 2017 20:32:35
Me pot herbs are gone 😂Cheers macca.

09 Aug 2017 20:33:08
Cheers Macca and eds.

09 Aug 2017 20:33:22
One on top of the other from Macca! Is that a Big Mac Attack?

I hope your suspicions come to fruition mate, would be excellent! Cheers!

09 Aug 2017 20:34:11
Thanks Macca!

09 Aug 2017 20:35:38
Fingers crossed guys.

09 Aug 2017 20:35:45
RTFP. oh wait does that say macca and ed002?

Well chuffed.

09 Aug 2017 20:37:15
Even assuming you are wrong on all three accounts (wishing the opposite of course) - thanks again for sharing.
You are as valuable as the eds to us regulars Macca (no offence eds 😀)

09 Aug 2017 20:39:47
Ed, why would that rule out his move to Barca? Wouldn't/ couldn't they just come back for him in the future? Thanks.

Adding VVD and Keita and keeping Coutinho would be amazing.

{Ed002's Note - They are not going to do that - they are hardly going to put things on hold whilst they wait for Liverpool.}

09 Aug 2017 20:40:27
As Ed002 suggests, it could be make or break for Coutinho. If he does not go now then that might be the end of a move for him to Barcelona in the near future.

Going to be very interesting to see how things unfold when Barcelona make the second bid.

09 Aug 2017 20:47:19
Who would Barcelona get if they couldn't get Coutinho Ed002?

{Ed002's Note - There first choice was Verratti.}

09 Aug 2017 20:50:03
The same hurdle of RB Leipzig still stands in the way though. VVD handing in a transfer request and us being back in for Kieta hasn't actually changed anything. If we have bids for either or both players excepted then that will be a different story.

09 Aug 2017 20:54:26
Macca you have cheered me up mate even if it be till the last day of the window and doesn't happen you've gave me some hope my friend thank you.

09 Aug 2017 20:59:10
1 year is a long time. Win the league and champions league he will be worth £200m.

Thanks for cheering us up Macca.

Getting VVD, Keita plus Coutinho staying would be a very successful transfer window. Oh and maybe the Ox too, just to annoy the gunners!

09 Aug 2017 21:03:35
Is the house thing true Macca or am I being super gullible? Either way I'm excited! 😂.

09 Aug 2017 21:11:20
Even if you're wrong, i've got little butterflies in my stomach reading this.

Macca/ Eds thank you, does this mean Emre Can is gone?

{Ed002's Note - He has not gone at the moment.}

09 Aug 2017 21:11:40
I hope all you said comes true.

09 Aug 2017 21:27:20
Even Macca showing frustration at the lack of signings.

09 Aug 2017 21:46:37
Thanks Macca and Eds too.
Still 3 weeks before the window closes and still hopeful 😀.

09 Aug 2017 21:47:57
You were right Macca we did need cheering up. I will settle for 2 out of 3 being correct. If its all 3 we will be real contenders.

Me and my son thank the Ed's and Macca.

09 Aug 2017 22:10:40
Naby is more than welcome to kip on my couch till he gets himself sorted. 👍.

09 Aug 2017 21:52:34
Cheers Macca!

Personally I don't see Saints dealing with us anymore, so VVD goes t Chelski fer me, Hope I'm wrong.

09 Aug 2017 22:14:53
If I were Coutinho, I would not want to go to a club like Barcelona knowing I was not first choice. Maybe he would prove himself, as Saurez eventually did, but on the other hand it's a lot of extra pressure feeling you have to prove your doubters wrong. It happens at those big Spanish clubs. Look at Owen. Look at Fabregas. From club captain to sitting on the bench at their rivals.

If Couts were first choice then I would understand his position more, but as it is I think it's a risk for the lad. I also think he has more to prove at Liverpool. His quality his incontrovertible, but he hasn't had a season like Suarez had before he left.

I understand the temptation but if I were in his inner circle I would advise him to stay, and maybe try and renegotiate his contract or summint.

{Ed002's Note - Don't be ridiculous - he has been courting them for more than year.}

09 Aug 2017 22:19:55
Sorry macca, but since the end of February, I only take ed002 as gospel now.
I think you're wrong on all 3 fronts. No naby, no vvd. Maybe, a tiny slither of couts staying.
Everyone else can get excited, like they have done after previous posts. But my heart can't take this all over again.

09 Aug 2017 22:27:24
Good lord I think I'm on a semi after reading that thanks macca and eds would be an unbelievably good transfer window if all that comes off.

09 Aug 2017 22:54:39
He may well have been, that still doesn't make it a good idea for the lad.

On another note, Macca, what has changed that RBL wouldn't deal with us before but now might accept a 4th bid? Was it always just down to the offers not being big enough? Or is it in fact RBL putting on a front, after all?

Thanks for giving us your time.

09 Aug 2017 22:51:08
Saying that Barcelona wouldn't come in for Coutinho next summer is simply ridiculous. If they still want him they will return - I can't understand why anyone could suggest otherwise!
I wouldn't be suprised if his departure next year is already in full discussion between the clubs.

If they really did say this then it's just bs to get Liverpool to sell. I'm suprised that you are being so naive.

09 Aug 2017 23:01:57
Think we're grasping here folks we all know how this will end up. No VVD, no Keita and Phil leaves a week before the end of the window! Hope against major hope this doesn't happen but we've seen all this before over recent seasons. Sorry Macca but it's guess work from yourself and Ed002 is clearly Chelski through and through reading his desperation that LFC implode prior to being on the brink of major honours!

{Ed025's Note - on the brink of major honours????...scraping 4th and nowhere near in any cups is the brink now is it rushie?..lay off the drugs mate..

09 Aug 2017 23:13:44
I don't think Coutinho will stay a south American grows up wanting to play for the top 2 Spanish sides, 3 of our south American contingent have or are about to sign for Barca. Also lost his mate in Lucas within the club. I hope we sign VVD and I hope we have already identified Coutinho's replacement and behind the scene we are already in talks to sign that player and the sale of Coutinho and the incoming replacement are done in parallel. Although we don't have a great history of being great in our transfer dealings, do we.

09 Aug 2017 23:57:39
Cmon Ed025, have you forgotten we are the 2017 Audi Cup runners up? 😂.

{Ed025's Note - oh yeah...when is the open top bus parade?.. :)

10 Aug 2017 00:27:47
Fair enough Ed we had a nighmare in the cups last season but there was a collusion of circumstances that your don't get every season that directly effected us after Christmas. I'm not a blind LFC fan who says the old 'this is our year' etc etc but even You've got to admit if there was no ACN and Coutinho and Hendo would have played a full season then we may well be sitting here as current PL champions. Those mushies ain't that strong believe you me. On a side note do you think a deal with Barcelona taking Couts next season instead is on the table as has been suggested for a guaranteed price?

{Ed002's Note - But what if Stoke had won every game?}

10 Aug 2017 03:23:11
Eds, as of now Liv does not want to sell Coutinho. But we know in football, things can change rapidly especially when ridiculous amounts of money are involved. I'm pretty certain that Coutinho will leave Liverpool at some point, most likely next season if he was forced to stay. Would it be silly to even suggest that to make everyone happy (including Coutinho) that we work out a deal to sell to Barcelona for an amount and have them loan him back to us for the entire season. Much like what we did when we bought Origi? That would suit all parties and fans will have the whole season to accept that he's leaving, making it easier to accept and we'll also have more time to find a suitable replacement, if any.

10 Aug 2017 04:18:22
Made comment likening Gerrard and kieta. (Gerrard at 22) it was wrong. Kieta is more like gini wijnaldum on Bolivian marching powder.

10 Aug 2017 06:59:59
The house hunting thing has got rubbish written all over it.

10 Aug 2017 08:43:56
In macca we hope and in ed2 we trust. Personally think both are correct. Rb have no interest but if he hands in a transfer request, things might change. I member when transfer requests were big news now it just seems like a normal part of the game. We hated it when Suarez and masch behaved so badly yet barely bat an eyelid when our club taps up players left right and centre. Dare I say coots behaviour has been remarkable though possibly to his own detrimental aspirations. He hasn't played by these new rules at all. Still though, loads of time and drama left in this saga.

10 Aug 2017 08:56:09
I don't believe that turning Barcelona down this year will rule out Phil's move next year. Barcelona have choice but to wait, their first choice (verrati) isn't available and their second choice isn't available right now.
Why would they be trying so hard to get second choice if they could just easily get first?

Coutinho said (back before all the drama) that he would not be leaving this year publicly and privately. I expect that's true. Either Barcelona will give us an offer that's impossible to turn down now or they will come back next year with a lower offer (which will likely be accepted) . They can't (as ed suggested) just go get verrati instead. He's first choice - if they could get him they already would have.

{Ed002's Note - They can't get their first choice at this time. Think of it this way, if Coutinho were to leave tomorrow, would Liverpool be willing to wait until next summer to replace him?

Barcelona want a replacement for Iniesta this summer.}

10 Aug 2017 11:03:52
Its just my opinion but surely if Coutinho steps up another level and adds that bit of consistency, then Barcelona would be interested again in the future. If my understanding is correct they see Couts as a replacement for Iniesta and not neymar. Of course I'd be more than happy if their interest ended this summer and we kept him.

10 Aug 2017 15:35:08
I agree with rush that we could well be on the brink of something special. In a league of the top 7 we were top of that league last year. When we play teams who wanna play football we match anyone and beat most. Depth of squad was an issue and set pieces was an issue. Mane is the type of player who can break down a stubborn defence with his speed and intelligence but we lost him for large part of season. Hence problems started. Now we have two super quick, intelligent wingers I really think if we can hang on to our top players we have a good chance of challenging.

I also think Andy Robertson was a shrewd bit of business. It gives moreno a kick up the backside and frees up Milner (who I believe has always been underrated) to play in a more influential role. You may laugh but I think moreno has the ability to be a brilliant player for us.



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