25 Jul 2020 11:12:57
There has been a bit of discussion regarding legends and how much the term is thrown around. Personally I think the club has a handful or legends and then a bunch of moments and players that are within the legend of the club and go down as part of the fabric/ folklore.
For instance origi isn’t a liverpool legend but some of his moments will forever be ingrained in our story his CL goal being the main one.
Lovren is another with his winner against Dortmund (part of our never say die attitude) and Lallana with the way he put everything into Klopps first game and led from the front.
In regards to who could be included from the current crop I’d say Klopp is well on his way, he’s built us back up from being a Europa league team to champions and Henderson is the other. For the way he carries himself and the standard he has set. Obviously both probably need a few more trophies to cement their places but for me they are well on their way.

25 Jul 2020 11:24:55
Agreed and very well said. I think if we're having this discussion in 5 years from now we'd be adding Trent to that list as well as robbo. Fingers crossed anyway, a lot can happen in football but if they carry on the way they're playing then we have a couple of future legends right there.

25 Jul 2020 11:28:19
Forgot to add Trent to my list of possible future leg ends.

25 Jul 2020 12:16:47
Origi may not be a legend (then as you say OP, it is subjective) however his moments alongside those of Lovren and Lallana, will be engraved in LFC folklore due to how impactful they were towards our rise to greatness and the occasions during which they happened which are unforgettable, IMO.

As for Klopp IMO, he is already a living legend at the club right now as we speak. The question now is how big of a Liverpool legend will he be. Will it be likened to the modern day Shankly or Paisley or the next version of the King himself? Only time will tell.

25 Jul 2020 12:40:14
Klopp is a legend, the squad collectively is a legend for winning the league for the first time in 30 years, and Hendo, Trent and Big Virg will be club legends.

{Ed025's Note - the hunchback of notre dam was a legend as well as dracula and frankenstein..

25 Jul 2020 12:45:02
I can tell you now Klopp is a legend. If he left today he’d be remembered as the man who did the impossible. It hasn’t sank in yet, but what he’s done is massive. Up there now with the legendary joe fagan imo.

25 Jul 2020 12:56:03
A legend is very subjective. For me a lot of players from the 70s and 80s can be regarded as legends and rightly so because of the success we had.
Then there is the likes of Gerrard who might not have won as many trophies as he would have liked but the amount of times he pulled it out of the bag for the team and important goals he scored, for me he is rightly in the "legend" category.
Now we get to the modern day team and off course they clearly haven't won anywhere close to the teams of the 70s and 80s but they are the team that got the monkey of the clubs back and got it over the line where other teams have failed. Let's be honest also, no team is going to do what Liverpool and then United did for decades and dominate, so it's a bit unfair to compare. So for me there are a few legends in this team when they retire or move on but only when they do so. For now I hope they continue to write a few more chapters in the clubs glorious history.

{Ed025's Note - i think your spot on IR..

25 Jul 2020 13:50:33
With you on that, Irish Rover. The report card will come out only after graduation (when they leave us or retire) . But I think it's harsh to not consider Mane, Firmino and Salah as legends with the above names if they do stay for at least 5 years. Carragher too, despite his post career blemishes, should/ could be considered as a legend because he helped hold the house upright with Gerrard for years and years.

25 Jul 2020 13:55:43
You don't need to be a Legend to perform legendary acts. Origi, Smicer, Collymore have all scored legendary goals yet wouldn't be classed as true club legends.
Im surprised there's a shadow of doubt when referring to Jurgen Klopp though. In the past couple of years he's transformed the team and had us playing some of the best football out there. he's taken us to finals ever year and won us the biggest prizes in the sport, including the holy grail.
Absolute bona fide club legend in my book.

25 Jul 2020 15:56:10
Personally I think you can only become a legend after you leave the club but call me old fashioned 😂.

I have the same opinion when they dish out knighthood but that's a whole other discussion!

25 Jul 2020 15:59:16
100%! Klopp again did what many managers couldn't achieve. Serial losers into winners, but he has more to do. I'm hoping he's a legend with 2 maybe 3 PL trophies, not just 1.

25 Jul 2020 16:03:54
Spot on, IR.

25 Jul 2020 16:53:42
Legend is used too much these days. What does it even mean? But with the current definition I'd say origi is a club legend. In 20 years he will pull the shirt on for legend games. Gini is a legend for the exact same reason.

26 Jul 2020 11:54:45
When we look back in 30 years time, hard to believe but some of our players won't come instantly to mind. Seems hard to believe right now but it's true. Gini and origi won't be forgotten. Because they scored huge huge goals for us. The youngsters in 30 years time will still talk about gini and origi against barca. They are legends (or will be. You can't be a legend until you've hung the boots up, I agree)