02 Sep 2020 09:44:29
Reading some of the comments following on from my post, people talking about me being negative and then saying negative things in regards to my opinion makes me laugh. All of you who watch football a lot should know that Jurgens titles winning team at Dortmund Had two years at the top - back to back league titles and a cl final.

then the Gegenpressing took a toll on their legs.. whoever does not believe that ever since the restart the team has looked leggy are just in denial. Don’t get me wrong. I WOULD LOVE TO BE DEAD WRONG ABOUT THIS. but I just feel we need some fresh faces. Ox and Naby are going in to their 3rd season.

surely by now they could have had a consistent run at being good. our midfield do not score or create so much because they are workhorses and I love them. but with that reliance on our front 3 any injuries and the back ups didn't strike fear in to any defenders bar maybe Everton’s who are diabolical.

Arsenal have shown twice how to stop Liverpool. by defending narrow and having two banks. we need alternatives. nobody is saying sign Sancho, Mbappe etc.. but we need more options in order to play different ways and not be so readable. Last game of the season against Chelsea we were so easy to open up, even though we won.

this year a lot of teams will be stronger, but we will be the same. People saying Tsimikas adds quality make me laugh.. this guy has been playing in a farmers league and you are comparing him to losing Lovren who plays a completely different position. if we could add Thiago and Sarr, then I think we will be fine and will run away with the league again.

these are two players who perhaps add some qualities that we lack in some respects. We can’t lose Gini just yet because Ox and Naby are too injury prone, Hendo can’t do all the running alone and Millie is on his last legs in terms of football at this level. We need another option like Thiago to sit alongside Fabinho and let us play 4231.. we have looked significantly below par last two games (Arsenal and Salzburg) and Arsenal have had less time on the training ground than us.

02 Sep 2020 10:16:52
Ox and Maby have barely played.

That 2014-15 seasonnwas nothing to do with fatigue. They lost Lewandowski to Bayern, replaced him with a lemon in Immobile who also forced Aubameyang to play wide which wasnt a great fit for him. They lost reus to major injury and had to integrate Gundogan back from a long term injury. They had a terrible start to the season but climbed up from as low as 17 to finish 7th. So were won of the best performing teams for the second half. They won super cup and runners up in Pokal. At least try and make some sense when trying to draw a random conclusion bro!

Having said all, that, the team will need a refresh. They have that already with Keita, Minamino and new blood Jones. Others can happen over the next 3 windows including this one.

02 Sep 2020 10:58:47
Boom! Hahaha. That was a good one, Faith. Thank you!

02 Sep 2020 10:45:32
Cant disagree with anything you say there RedJack apart from I’d be surprised if we run away with it this season. Klopp realises we need fresh players also hence why he wants Thiago. Linders mentioned last season he had spent lockdown looking at how we can progress and improve / change things up also. Not sure why people on this site think wanting to continually improve is negative. We do need signings. Klopp wants signings. The players who won the league last year are legends and always will be and deserve all the credit in the world.

02 Sep 2020 11:48:26
A few points on the original point:

- We don’t play the same type of pressing that Klopp used at Dortmund. You may remember that he did at the start with us but this has been subtlety changed. Klopp now also pays far more attention to the fitness coaches and rotates accordingly.

- Kostas is from a team in a farmers league apparently and yet it was that team in the farmers league which knocked those tactical geniuses arsenal out of Europe.

- also claiming arsenal have showed the secret to beat us is ludicrous in the extreme. Sitting deep and narrow to stifle the attack and hitting on the counter or via mistakes isn’t exactly a new concept. It’s also not one that we alone struggle against. Hence why it’s used by every defensive and negative manager around.

- why do we need to move to a 4231? Why will that significantly change what we already do?

- irs preseason. There is very little meaningful you can ascertain from the last two games.

There is massive difference between continually evolving and changing for changes sake or simply because other people are getting stronger.

02 Sep 2020 12:18:25
You talk about OX and Kieta's injury records and goes on to claim we need Thiago lol. Our problem is at the back again. we are conceding goals one way or the other and we need a top-class center back to prevent it.

02 Sep 2020 13:23:15
Maybe we need both Tyrion and looks like Klopp thinks so too.

02 Sep 2020 13:58:51
When talking about Klopps final year at Dortmund, it's important to make note of the fact that they were statistically one of the unluckiest teams in history that year.

Most existing statistical models at the time had them in second.

02 Sep 2020 18:16:38
Spot on Alvy. It was these same stats that John Henry took into consideration before deciding to hire Klopp cos as we all know, he did not want Klopp for the exact reason of his last Dortmund season being pretty poor.