30 Aug 2021 11:24:44
There's a lot of negativity the last few days. So we didn't find a winner against Chelsea we got a point against the current European Champions who even City haven't been able to beat since Tuchel took over. They will more than likely be the champions this year so a point is a decent result. 2 wins and a draw is a good start to the season.
As for no further additions this year, we've added a centre back which was a massive problem last year. Big Virg is back and him and Matip are looking a good partnership. Centre mid could do with strengthening but we have plenty of options there to compete. If Elliot and Jones can get game time this season then I'm all for not spending money we don't have. No big names have gone which was always a massive problem for us. I used to hate transfer windows with the potential for our stars to be snapped up. Now we have a team full of them and they all stay.
The club has to be sustainable. Leveraging player fees against future earnings is not a sustainable model. We had to sell to buy and we couldn't achieve that but we'll still be in with a fighting chance. I honestly can't think of a transfer that has happened this year that I was gutted we didn't get them.
The fans are back in the ground, we have an amazing Champions League group. It's going to be a good season lads let's get behind the team and enjoy it.
30 Aug 2021 11:36:50
Don't go being all sensible now, don't ye know because we drew with Chelsea that the season is over because utd and Chelsea bought players and we stood still 🙄.
30 Aug 2021 12:19:25
The truth is somewhere in the middle of course. Mistakes have been made recently. We had decent offer for Origi last summer but held out for more. We didn't replace Lovren knowing that Joe and Joel are prone to injuries. We then didn't have a CB lined up on Jan 1st (we were in the title race at this point) and it took until Feb 1st to get Kabak and Davies in. By Feb 1st the title was gone.
Re-signing Adrian is again an odd one. If he was HG it would have made a tad more sense.
We've made an excellent signing in Konate and probably made the right business choice to not re-sign Gini on a big contract. All the other big stars are getting locked down with new contracts.
I think we all agree, we need two signings in. A midfielder and a forward. Let's see what happens in the next 36-odd hours.
Perhaps there's also a bit of panic amongst fans about whether Klopp is going to be given the chance to leave a legacy for the next manager. If we sign nobody else this summer he'll have to build a new team in 2 windows - which is a tough ask, even for Klopp.
30 Aug 2021 12:45:14
Unfortunately NYR the only enjoyment some seem to get from the game is the opportunity to slag players, the club in general and the owners.
Supporters will get behind the team without thinking about it.
Glory seekers are only interested in winning and immediately start throwing the toys out of the pram if it doesn't happen. The concept of support is alien to them, and I see plenty of it on here.
30 Aug 2021 12:48:44
I can’t see us signing anyone at this late point in the window as the prices will be exorbitant as clubs need to find replacements. The only players readily available at this point are ones that clubs want shot of, which doesn’t imply quality (Balotelli for example) .
30 Aug 2021 13:03:45
Pelican, I have no idea where people draw these hilarious conclusions from. If we had made signings last season then directly things would be different. How people come up with this conclusions, is beyond me. Must be the English mentality that states that if you don’t win a game, it’s cos you didn’t sign this or that player cos clearly, it has nothing to do with tactics, formation, brilliance if the opposition etc. None of that. Oh, my days 🙄.
So let me ask you this: Had we sold Origi this season, would that have translated into an automatically win vs a more than formidable Chelsea team? Would flogging off Adrian (a GK, btw) changed anything on Sat? And had we signed a CB to replace Lovren, would that have prevented the other 3 CB’s from getting injured the way they did esp VVD last season? Seriously, I really like to know.
30 Aug 2021 13:35:07
Replacing Lovren last summer would have meant we had 1 centreback rather than none. We might have then not played United and City with Fabinho and Hendo at CB. So I’d say our chances would have improved.
Replacing Origi last summer would have meant that we had an option after Jota was our for months whilst Salah and Mane couldn’t hit a barn door Jan-Feb. I’d say our chances would have improved.
Having an Origi replacement would have allowed Klopp to replace Mane on Saturday when it was needed. I’d say our chances would have improved.
30 Aug 2021 15:09:58
Pelican, so let me explain to you what your logic is missing. Had we bought that CB, he would have been 4th choice hence, of lower quality hence, would not get game time so if he did come on and play, he would have needed time to get up to speed and would have made mistakes as well costing us games, just like Rhys did till he got better. Phillips would have been gone had a 4th choice cane in cos that was the plan so he wouldn’t have even been here either. See how that works?
Also had we gotten a 4th CB, he would have been playing every game every three days which would have led to fatigue or poor play or even, injury. Did you factor in any of these scenarios or you think reality cares what you think?
On Origi, you can’t force someone to leave just cos you think they are crap and need to go. There are contracts that need to be respected and to terminate them are not easy hence why they are rarely done. If it was that easy then why is Phil Jones still at Utd? Or Ozil stayed that long at Arsenal and not playing?
Also there is absolutely NO guarantee that had Origi’s replacement been here, he would have changed anything during that Sat. game. NONE whatsoever. You can paint all types of scenarios and create all types of fantasies in your head as much as you want BUT there are NO guaranties in football, neither is it an exact science. Cheers, mate.