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17 Jan 2018 21:55:44
Hi Eds,
Reports from usually reliable sources about a young CB called Ben Wilmot from Stevenage.
Is it true we're interested? (as are many other clubs)
Thanks.
{Ed025's Note - apparently liverpool and spurs are the front runners for his signature imred..
17 Jan 2018 18:14:32
Have Milan contaced us regarding loaning Sturridge ed?
{Ed002's Note - Milan cannnot commit to purchases right now, so I would very much doubt it.}
17 Jan 2018 18:45:20
AC Milan or Inter Milan?
{Ed002's Note - AC Milan.}
17 Jan 2018 19:16:58
The op should have said inter as is them linked.
17 Jan 2018 18:55:52
Sorry ed, I meant Inter Milan. Just read the Echo that's all mate.
{Ed002's Note - Ok.}
17 Jan 2018 19:01:30
The rumour is inter. Have inter ed?
17 Jan 2018 19:36:18
Well if you look towards actual people who know like Liverpool’s Mouthpiece James Pearce you’ll know they have.
17 Jan 2018 20:34:41
Looks like they are in for him let's hope they cover the wages and have a must buy term and not an option to buy.
17 Jan 2018 20:46:38
it is Inter Milan not Milan AC.
18 Jan 2018 02:35:28
If its AC Milan, then maybe a cash + swap deal with Suso will do both clubs a great deal. Whether it is AC or Inter, I think Sturridge's time at Liverpool is up. At one point he was so good but injuries ended his Liverpool career.
17 Jan 2018 17:32:40
Hi Ed002
I was wondering if there is likely to be any new Sharkopods please to cover the updated January in and oit activity, given most of not all potential targets on the last Sharkopod are very inlikely because of mixed reasons?
I appreciate your busy but thought if there was one coming it would make things clear to all.
Thanks for your work.
{Ed002's Note - Perhaps but there are others for Arsenal, Spurs, Everton and the European clubs to do first.},
17 Jan 2018 17:46:48
Ed002, is it possible to have one that covers all the above + any other tidbits of info (incl. Liverpool)? I think it was over the summer you did one to cover multiple clubs and it was very interesting to hear what was going on.
{Ed002's Note - Each will get there own - perhaps an updat covering all in the last few days would be a good idea. Thanks.}
17 Jan 2018 17:52:40
Ok mate fair enough. Thank you.
17 Jan 2018 18:13:18
Sounds good to me ed. Look forward to it. Wont chase either😥.
17 Jan 2018 18:35:26
Ed002 you are a gentleman and a scholar, thanks look forward to it!
17 Jan 2018 18:52:27
Love your sharkpods ed. Keep up the good work.
17 Jan 2018 17:01:22
Liverpool to recall Origi following departure of Sturridge to Inter.
17 Jan 2018 16:09:26
Marko Grujic has signed for Cardiff on loan.
17 Jan 2018 16:17:30
Good luck to him.
17 Jan 2018 16:18:16
Best of luck to him, hope he plays alot!
17 Jan 2018 16:47:22
Good move for him there, a promotion chasing team. I hope he gets plenty of game time and shows the hype about him was real.
17 Jan 2018 17:35:37
Please God he'll get plenty of game's. The very best of luck to him.
{Ed002's Note - It would not be a shock to see him move on in the summer.}
17 Jan 2018 18:16:47
A very good manager who also has a good eye for players.
17 Jan 2018 21:42:19
Editor #2 it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's gone in the summer either. To be quite honest I hope he is because I can't see him ever getting a chance with us, this situation kind of reminds me of the Markovic situation and we all know how bad that's gone for him since joining us, I hope Grujic can escape the trap. Markovich wasn't able to and still hasn't yet.
17 Jan 2018 14:18:23
Eds seen some rumours of mignolet to napoli? Reina moving on? Would be grear if we could get a new kerper in quickly although appreciate you've said summer is more likely.
{Ed002's Note - REina will be leaving Napoli - and in my vie he would be the perfect number 3 for Liverpool and could help with the kids. I rather doubt anything will happen this month.}
17 Jan 2018 15:01:35
BBC Radio Merseyside are re-running a 2012 interview with LFC's first 'sweeper keeper' Tommy Lawrence at 6.00pm tonight.
RIP The Flying Pig.
17 Jan 2018 15:53:11
That does make sense Ed. He is vastly experienced and if needed in an emergency he is very competent, I know that there is a little bit of previous bad history because of how he wanted to engineer a move to Barcelona, but that is water under the bridge now.
17 Jan 2018 16:37:13
Agree with you. Shame it won't happen quickly could cost us.
17 Jan 2018 14:05:47
Is the reported interest in Aleix Vidal (RB from barcelona) genuine? Tried the search function but only found the bayern vidal mentioned.
{Ed002's Note - I don't know what is being reported but the player rejected and approach by Sevilla as he wants to move to Roma, but Roma need to sell before they can buy, but they are interested. Both Inter and Milan are interested as well but Milan are not in a position to commit at this time. Inter have discussed him with Barcelona whilst negotiating with them over another player. His representative has been offering him around but I am not aware of any discussion with Liverpool but he has spoken with Manchester United who Wein already has a relationship with as he placed a player there in the summer and they are interested in another of his charges, and he knows MU were interested in a team mate of Vidals who plays in the same position. It is very likely that he has approached Everton as he will be aware that the right back they were showing an interest in for a pre-contract has indicated that he does not want to move to England - so he will see a potential buyer there. He certainly approached one London-based club but they had no interest in any discussions about the player.}
17 Jan 2018 14:40:17
Brilliant comprehensive answer as always thanks Ed002! No idea how you store the amount of info!
17 Jan 2018 12:28:31
Hi Eds,
A quick one away from all the transfer speculations. when a club loans a player out, are there circumstances where the parent club will be subsiding the wage? I. e. If Cardiff were to loan Grujic, they may only be paying 60% of his current wage and Liverpool the rest? I know that's quite a simplistic example. But I was wondering with how many players are loaned out from big clubs like Chelsea and Liverpool, if these players are costing them whilst away?
Thanks for all your hard work, don't know where I'd be without this page!
{Ed002's Note - Yes it is reasonably common for the loaning club to pay some or even all of the wages.
Liverpool only has a few players out on loan and suffers from a lack structure for loans and career progress which they do need to address. Firstly they must establish a structure and planning for a career path and look to establish relationships with a couple of sides such that the loan system can work for the club. The liaison structure is critical as whilst managers may occasionally see players it is generally something undertaken by others dedicated to the task. As an example, each loan player from Chelsea has a liaison officer assigned (some are ex-players) who regularly see them, deal with any issues and report progress back to the club. For instance there was a problem with a couple of players in the Netherlands and that resulted in the club having them get involved with spending some time with the local community (schools and charities). Chelsea has also helped clubs they have and are building relationships with - this may include providing training facilities, loaning coaching staff, having ex-players works with them in some capacity etc.. They have a structure in the Netherlands and Belgium in addition to relationships with South American and old Eastern Bloc countries. They are currently working a deal with a Champions League side as well. Similarly in Italy I know that the clubs with a significant number of players on loan have regular contact and bring them back as a group for training on a couple of occasions mid-season. I am sure there will be someone at Liverpool keeping contact with the younger players on loan where there are legal responsibilities as some are still technically children but others on loan from Liverpool reported the occasional text message only – simply not good enough. Many clubs in Spain and Portugal have built relationships with other sides and it helps with brining in players from South America.}
17 Jan 2018 13:17:19
Because knowledge is power Mrplums.
17 Jan 2018 13:27:50
Because it's very interesting Mrplums. and as hjikle properly said "knowledge is power".
17 Jan 2018 13:43:19
I’ve wondered about this too. Cheers Ed.
17 Jan 2018 16:35:01
Jesus! Abromovich must have every single ex player as a liaison officer with the amount of loans Chelsea have going on.
17 Jan 2018 18:40:18
Thanks Ed002 for the really insightful response.
While unconnected to LFC, if I may ask, why do Chelsea remain largely unable to produce first team players with a system as comprehensive as that? Is there a disconnect in the philosophy between development groups and first team, or is it just because of Abramovic's firing finger? And are there any other clubs who regularly churn out first teamers from a loan system?
{Ed002's Note - Courtois went through that process and is a regular. Christensen returned in the summer and is a regular. Moses had a few loans and is a regular, Ake went through it and is a regular for Bournemouth, Lukaku and De Bruyne went through the Chelsea set up and are doing ok now, plus Chelsea. Has a couple of squad players who have been through it. So it is perhaps not doubt too badly.}
18 Jan 2018 08:21:11
Ed, all due respect, I think that including Lukaku, KDB and Moses in that argument is a bit of a stretch. The first two players needed to *leave* Chelsea to play first team footy, Moses was already an experienced player who only went on loan because Mourinho didn't think he was good enough.
{Ed002's Note - Ok, if you don't think that Lukaku or de Bruyne went through that system then fine - or perhaps you don't think they are first team players, then remove them.}
18 Jan 2018 10:52:18
Thanks Ed. Chelsea did seem to have more talented youngsters though. Clearly KDB, Lukaku etc were always going to be better than Ibe and Markovic. But LFC should get their loans system in order if top young talent like Woodburn are to progress.
{Ed002's Note - Markovic moved too soon - I made that clear at the time.}
24 Jan 2018 09:01:51
What are you on about ed? Of course they went through the system, but hhanif005 was talking about first team players for Chelsea in particular, not just anybody. And he's right, Chelsea's extensive and "marvellous" loan system has only given them one first-team player.
{Ed002's Note - Which one of Christensen or Courtois is that? Idiot.}
17 Jan 2018 07:43:48
Ed’s but random but are transfers always done in person or does it start with a phone call? I know it’s a useless question but as ed02 stated the other day about teams meeting in London to discuss Malcom and we were not one of them (I’m not suggesting we are with the question, just asking if it is possible a side just picks up the phone and gets put through to relevant powers) or is it a case if they all send a representative and they wait outside an office to be Called in one by one like an interview?
{Ed002's Note - The meeting in London with the two interested clubs was arranged to discuss whether he would be interested in a move and the fee that Bordeaux would want. As a result of this, one of the teams backed away as they thought the asking price way too high. The other needs to decide know if they are going to look to an offer for the player.
The transfer process should be along the lines of: Clubs will typically informally ask an agent (a) if the player is going to be available, and (b) would the player consider a move to the club. There may be some broad discussion on the sort of deal that would be offered but no more than that. If the answer is yes, it is then necessary for the club to approach the player's club to ask if they would be willing to sell and if they would grant permission to speak to a player's agent formally about a transfer and possibly even the player about actually making a move. This will typically involve either broadly (through an offer) or actually agreeing a fee and responsibility for any significant costs (agents fees etc.). Once this has happened the club will be able to speak to the player's agent and perhaps the player himself to look at the package that will be involved. Many players are looked at and discussed at a high-level with agents and clubs; a subset of those have an offer placed; a subset of those involve discussions with the player's club; a subset of those involve discussions over terms, and; a subset of those go ahead.
Agents will often try and get more specific details of wages and other financials before they should - but most clubs are happy to follow this process. Players will often talk to other players about moves but, whilst wrong, is tolerated as it would be impossible to manage.
Alternatively, a selling club may ask an agent to find a new club for a player and he will talk directly to poetntial selling sides about the fee, personal terms and interest.
The rest of the time agents will be on fishing trips trying to find interest in their players.}
17 Jan 2018 12:12:16
Wow, interesting. Thanks Editor #2.
{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}
17 Jan 2018 12:20:07
Ed002 top quality info.
Thanks.
17 Jan 2018 13:50:27
In relation to your response ed 2. Mr souness said after the man city game that every transfer has an element of tapping up.
{Ed002's Note - What is he trying to do - protect the club at the bottom of the pile and the worst offender in Klopp who will look to cheat at every chance he gets - the club already serving a transfer ban who tried ruin the career of a 12 year old boy and drove his parents in to debt and then were allowed to buy there way out of a court case?
It is absolutely pitiful that you want the troll this post and again bring it up. How about the written warnings Liverpool had last season and the complaint that is still onfile with the Premier League - did he mention those?}
17 Jan 2018 17:57:06
Why do you get so angry about it? It is true that it happens all the time and yes Klopp may be the worst but damn, the anger lol.
{Ed002's Note - Because I don't like cheating and what was done to a 12 year old is completely unforgivable - and the subsequent lies to the investigation. But for some reason - presumably to try and make it look like Liverpool are not the most unprofessional club in Europe - the idiot wanted to bring it up again. You may see it as OK to fuck with peoples lives and drive his parents in to debt, to lie to the FA investigation in order to try and avoid something show-stopping coming out in court, but I don't.}
17 Jan 2018 21:55:16
I don't think. it's nice to mess with people's lives but, I also think it takes two to tango.
17 Jan 2018 23:19:47
Hi Ed, first time posting but love the site.
Are you able to explain what you mean by klopp cheating at every chance he gets?
Not disagreeing just curious as bar the VVD/ blackpool incident this was the first I had heard of it.
Thanks.
17 Jan 2018 23:19:47
Hi Ed, first time posting but love the site.
Are you able to explain what you mean by klopp cheating at every chance he gets?
Not disagreeing just curious as bar the VVD/ blackpool incident this was the first I had heard of it.
Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Ead the posts from the summer.}
17 Jan 2018 09:16:24
Eds do we have an interested in Donnaruma and considering the financial mess Milan are into would a January bid from LFC be considered or they are not open to a January sale?
{Ed001's Note - he is a bit of a problem child and has been messing Milan about, they are not happy with him or that they were forced to sign his brother on a largish wage to keep him. Also the fans have turned on him because he is trying to get out of Milan. So they would be open to a sale but the options are limited as he expects to go to Real Madrid, as he thinks no one else is big enough for him. Have to wait and see if he is right but personally, good as he is, I think Alisson is better and I would move heaven and earth to get him.}
17 Jan 2018 09:37:04
Sounds like a bit of a big head to me and at his age, he sounds like trouble, I'd rather we kept away from such players personally.
{Ed001's Note - he has seemed to let things go to his head recently. Sadly.}
17 Jan 2018 09:55:32
Where possible i'd be keen for us to stay away from players managed by Raiola. there always seems to be huge additional costs associated with any deal he negotiates.
17 Jan 2018 10:09:42
Unfortunately it seems to be happening all too often with these youngsters, they have too much power some of them and think they can do what they want, they think they're bigger then clubs and I don't like that.
Aside from this I'd also like to see Alisson signed for us, I think he'd be the perfect fit for Liverpool. I don't know if there's any truth to it but I read Roma have put a £44m price tag on him, money is irrelevant to me. I don't understand the finances in football and not really interested in learning about it but should that be true I think we should go all out to sign him.
My only concern with singing him in this window would be Karius, he deserves his chance and if we brought in Allison this month he'd be back down the pecking order and probably sold in the summer which would in a way be a shame because I think he can be quite good for us but at the same time, Karius or Alisson? it's a no brainer.
17 Jan 2018 10:27:27
Spot on ed, from the outside looking in i feel klopp likes squad harmony. Allison looks a real decent keeper and i wanna keep bobby happy at liverpool so let's get the Brazilian, poor lads been left with moreno.
17 Jan 2018 10:33:08
Ed can i ask why Alisson and not Oblak?
{Ed001's Note - because Oblak has never had to do the kind of job our keepers need to do, whereas Alisson has shown he is suited to it.}
17 Jan 2018 10:56:33
Alisson or Oblak for me, but Alisson does have a very commanding presence and is a brilliant shot stopper.
17 Jan 2018 11:04:16
Thanks Ed for the answer! Hope we get him!
{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't hold my breath, there are a lot of clubs that would love to get him.}
17 Jan 2018 11:08:29
oblak plays behind a team that sets up defensively with good strong natural defenders so as good as he looks he's not as much to do as others.
17 Jan 2018 11:09:16
Is the Allison rumor media gossip or have we actually taken a look at the lad?
{Ed001's Note - we have looked at him.}
17 Jan 2018 11:15:07
You know what Ed, if we used some of the recent addition to our funds to sort this out, it would probably have a greater impact on the team than simply buying a like for like replacement for Coutinho since scoring doesn't seem like a problem with Mane, Salah and Firmino.
{Ed001's Note - agreed keeper should be the number one priority now.}
17 Jan 2018 12:16:49
You only need to see how many games De Gea saves for United to see how many points we would pick up with a genuine top class keeper between the sticks.
17 Jan 2018 12:52:09
Why would Alisson come to us now? In the summer sure but right now, what's the incentive to move? I'm sure he wants the brazil no.1 shirt and where he is now he has a settled defense who he knows, the chance to play in the champions league with a very good chance of reaching the quarter finals at least (they play Donetsk) and most of the biggest domestic games still to play.
If he moves to LFC now he won't get any more CL football (which also means we keep playing a rusty keeper in the CL), he'll be with a defense he doesn't know and who are still far from settled with no practise games to ease into andmost of our big domestic games already done, with 2 of the remaining 3 being away games.
He knows the risk of this being a 'now or never' opportunity is low and we will be back in the summer if he wants it. So unless he's a secret diehard liverpool fan who would give his left nut to pull on the shirt tomorrow, and even if we assume Ed002 is wrong and we are actively looking to sign a keeper this window, and that somehow we can convince Roma to part with him mid season despite really not needing to, what exactly would Alisson gain by moving now?
17 Jan 2018 13:30:30
If we buy Allison it will not be to come to us now but to come to us in summer.
17 Jan 2018 13:52:21
Cheers for the reply ed, fingers crossed the club make the right move. In truth I didn’t know much about him until the speculation. As of now, I’m happy Karius is getting the opportunity to impress but the potential aquasition of a potential star does get the heart pumping.
17 Jan 2018 14:00:27
Hjikle the answer is simple, a pay rise. Do not underestimate the power of money, even to these footballers who have more than they need, more money is what they want.
17 Jan 2018 14:00:58
Thanks Ed001 for the answer. If there is a chance of signing him i would get him for 50-60 mil and sell him to Real Madrid for 150+ after a couple of years 😁.
{Ed001's Note - welcome, but would it not be better to just buy Alisson for the long term?}
17 Jan 2018 14:14:46
The keeper shouldve been number 1 priority some time ago. Desperately needs sorting out imo.
17 Jan 2018 14:26:30
Beef - perhaps true at other times but considering a good world cup with Brazil would probably get him a high wage in negotiations anyway, is it really worth risking it for him? Probably not, there is still a limit on what we could afford to offer. And it's not like he's at Sampandoria or something and will be tripling or quadrupling his wage, he's at a CL club already he's on top tier money.
17 Jan 2018 15:38:40
Definately Ed001 we should buy players commited to the team and not seeing us as a stepping stone if we want to win silverware. I hope if we finally get Alisson to be the commited kind but unfortunately our recent South American stars left a bitter taste. Maybe that's why Klopp prefers Africans.
17 Jan 2018 20:12:49
Is Alisson not PSG bound? I know it looked like Donnarumma was PSG’s first choice but I thought they had moved on? If they are genuinely interested then I don’t think we have any chance to compete unfortunately. I would take Trapp off PSG though.
17 Jan 2018 22:38:59
How is Alissons english? Need someone vocal back there.