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30 Mar 2026 11:30:01
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27 Mar 2026 19:14:38
Question for everyone: it has often happened that players have blossomed at Liverpool even though they tanked in other clubs before coming to us (Salah at Chelsea is the obvious example). But what are the examples of players who tanked at Liverpool but then turned into superstars after they left us?

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27 Mar 2026 20:54:41
Steve Ogrizovic.

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27 Mar 2026 21:06:37
It's a short list, to be honest. Most players who succeeded after playing for us were good players for us first.

Steve Staunton might be a shout? Was always a decent player, but cemented his legacy at Villa.

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27 Mar 2026 21:11:41
Our next manager was very good when he played for us, but got better when he left us.

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27 Mar 2026 21:27:16
Sterling made his name more at City than us?

Suso and Riera are 2 players that we, on the boards, have discussed bringing back.

Galusci was also discussed.

There have been others who have had long careers in the top 5 leagues, but the ones above are the main ones I can think of recently.

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27 Mar 2026 21:28:56
Luis Alberto apparently done well when he left.
Harry Wilson springs to mind. Whatever happened to Benteke, or am I dreaming that he played for us???

Arbeloa done well at Madrid too.

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27 Mar 2026 21:34:06
Iago Aspas and Luis Alberto are the most recent that spring to mind. Both went on to have good careers after failing to really make an impact for us. To be fair, though, Aspas had done pretty well in Spain before we signed him. Peter Gulacsi has also had a really good career.

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27 Mar 2026 21:35:12
Aspas is still doing alright at Celta Vigo.
Also Luis Suarez didn't have a bad career after us. Not too sure whether to put Kelleher on the list yet as he needs to prove consistency first.

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27 Mar 2026 21:38:07
Showing my age here, but Kevin Sheedy.

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27 Mar 2026 21:40:07
Suso.

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27 Mar 2026 21:53:31
Neco Williams ain't doing bad at Athletic Club. ;)

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27 Mar 2026 21:57:17
Not superstars tho!

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27 Mar 2026 22:11:45
Brad Friedel. Not a superstar, but super keeper imo. Looked v poor for us in his short stint and then went on to be an excellent keeper for years, much better than what we had in nets after he left.

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27 Mar 2026 22:18:13
Alou Diarra. Didn't get a game at Liverpool. Went on to win the French league with two different clubs, French Cup with another, and 44 caps for France and a World Cup runners-up medal.

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27 Mar 2026 22:20:49
Alou Diarra.

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27 Mar 2026 23:53:00
Friedel is a great shout, Digger.

Anelka also went through a few decent spells later in his career after he left us.

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28 Mar 2026 04:13:12
Iago Aspas, Steve Staunton, Luis Suarez, McManaman did good at Real. More recently, Harry Wilson is doing well.
The list is fairly small, though tbh.

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28 Mar 2026 07:14:39
Khelleher is doing well and would take him back as Ali's successor.

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28 Mar 2026 07:15:44
Mis read that question, thought it was who we would take back.

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28 Mar 2026 07:26:13
Surely Xabi is the foremost example? He was a super player for us, but he became one of the greatest midfielders in footballing history at Real and continued being great at an advanced age at Bayern.

He went up one or two levels after leaving us, though that didn't have to do with leaving us, since he was already beginning to exhibit that kind of form when he left.

Mascherano would be another example, I guess.

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28 Mar 2026 07:39:37
The post says tanked. Suarez/Alonso/Mascherano/Anelka didn't play bad for us, so I wouldn't include them.

Diarra
Suso
Alberto
Wilson (didn't get the chance)
Neco (same as above)
Aspas
Gulasci
Coates
Solanke? Was very young
Ryan Kent - carved a decent career in SPL
Coady? Never broken through but had a decent career.

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28 Mar 2026 08:15:12
Ah right, Kloppers, silly me, I missed that part.

Um.....Danny Ings maybe?

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28 Mar 2026 08:54:50
Kim Cattrall

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28 Mar 2026 09:40:01
Mikel San Jose. Had a decent career after being in our 21's. Ended up with a few caps for Spain too.

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27 Mar 2026 18:54:10
International breaks suck, so a bit of fun. Your favourite: did they actually really play for Liverpool XI?

Lorius Karius

Nick Tanner
Torben Piechnik
Julian Dicks
Paul Konchesky

Salif Diao
Paul Stewart
Christian Poulson

El-Hadji Diouf
Milan Jovanovic
Istavan Kozma.

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27 Mar 2026 19:18:54
GK. Peggy Arpexhead

RB. Javier Manquillo
CB. Frode Kippe (of course)
CB. Sotirios Kyrgiakos
LB. Julian Dicks

MF. Nuri Sahin
MF. Bruno Cheyrou
MF. Bernard Diomede

ST. Jari Litmanen (great player)
LS. Mark Gonzalez
RS. Omar Assiaddi.

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27 Mar 2026 19:37:47
Cody Gakpo. 🤔

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27 Mar 2026 19:59:13
Are you going for obscure or pure crud!?

With the latter for me it would be:

Bogdan

Kromkamp
Paletta
Caulker
Koncheski

Poulsen
Cole
Diomede
Cheyrou

Diouf
Borini.

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27 Mar 2026 20:51:32
Bogdan
Clyne, Kabak, Cissokho, Konchesky
Litmanen, Aquilani, Adam, Moses
Balotelli, Morientes

Some of the vast baffling signings ever. I've taken some liberties with a LB at CB. Sorry Cissokho.

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27 Mar 2026 21:14:12
Jimmy Carter would be the first name on any team sheet and would be the captain of the team.

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27 Mar 2026 21:39:32
Samed Yesil.

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27 Mar 2026 22:03:43
Bogdan
Kromkamp
Kabak
Piechnik
Dicks
Stewart
Poulsen
Ferri
Joke Hole
Balotelli
Diouf

I think that's an all timer of shite.

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27 Mar 2026 20:22:10
Peggy should never be mentioned in any Liverpool conversation
To be laughing in a audience of remembering our lost 96
He needs to be abolished from any conversation Liverpool related

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27 Mar 2026 22:10:31
Joe Cole, David Ngog, Jay Spearing, Mark Kennedy, Laser Markovic, Brad Jones, Danny Wilson, Ben Davies, Josemi, Jan Kromkamp, Cisse, Djimi Traore, Jean Michel Ferri and Eric Meijer.

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27 Mar 2026 22:44:10
Why no mention of Aqualani.

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27 Mar 2026 23:41:35
Don't forget Charlie Adams Lol.

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27 Mar 2026 23:56:59
Gazza, at least get the right person before you slander poor Peggy. You mean Charles Itandje. You're getting you're French black goalkeepers mixed up.

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28 Mar 2026 00:53:50
I had to read Joke Hole twice before getting it.

I was imagining a funny fanny.

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28 Mar 2026 01:40:47
To be fair, Zed, Cole is a bit of a fanny.

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28 Mar 2026 04:18:32
Aquilani, Igor Biscan, Sean Dundee, Eric Meier, David Ngog, Le Pellec, El Hadji Diouf, Konchesky, Julian Dicks, Razor Ruddock, The Ukrainian boy with the pony.

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28 Mar 2026 08:29:12
Itandje, Sinama Pongolle, Voronin, Ibe, Antonio Nunez, Milan Jovanovic, Arthur, Andy Carroll, Shelvey, Doni, Wisdom, Samed Yesil, Diego Cavalieri, Insua, Degen, Pacheco, Le Tallec, Dossena.

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28 Mar 2026 08:46:14
So what this post is saying is that we've purchased our fair share of dodgy footballers over the years. 🤣

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28 Mar 2026 09:57:23
No Sean Dundee?

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28 Mar 2026 10:07:43
Spot on, Irish Rover, the thing is we don't want to go back to signing players of this standard ever again. YNWA.

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27 Mar 2026 17:30:30
Edds and Reds

Who
Would you guys go for if you could have Elliott or Wharton?

I really like Elliot Anderson myself.
YNWA.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - I don't think Wharton has improved under Glasner, if anything regressed, so I would avoid him as he brings similar issues to Mac Allister.}

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27 Mar 2026 19:02:03
I have to say I haven't been overly impressed with Wharton this season and I was an advocate of his signing last season. He's too safe but at a new club, under a new manager? Who knows. 🤷‍♂️

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27 Mar 2026 19:33:23
Willing to give Wharton another chance given Palace have been chaotic on and off it. If we're basing players off this season alone, I'd never sign a Liverpool player minus one or two.

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27 Mar 2026 20:07:36
Wharton clearly has exceptional vision and passing ability, and whilst I haven't watched him much, I have never been overly impressed with his mobility or domination of the midfield, which should be the priority in my opinion.
I haven't seen Anderson play much either, to be honest, so couldn't comment on him.
I'd probably be going for someone like Baleba, Kone or Stiller.

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27 Mar 2026 19:10:00
Ed001 our midfield does not looked balanced with Gravenberch as the number 6 I would love a Fabinho type player there and then Sobs and Wirtz.
Apart from Slot's training or lack of and his tactics what your views on who should play there from what we have and who do you think could bring a more balance to the team.

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https://liverpool-rumours.co.uk/uploads/thumb_Ed001.png avatar{Ed001's Note - it has to be Szobo and Gravy and just make sure Gravy sits.}

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27 Mar 2026 20:26:23
Maybe me...

I was never convinced by Xhaka at Arsenal.
Okay. A slower league, but he looked good under Alonso at BL.
Tactically, I'm hoping Alonso can transform Gravenberch into something better than what he was last season and progress him as a player.



With Dom and Wirtz in front of him, with decent back ups that are used from the bench, we should push on for next season.

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27 Mar 2026 21:54:57
Buy both Wharton and Anderson. Different skill sets to help create a balanced midfield.

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27 Mar 2026 23:49:35
Gazza827, what makes you think Alonso will be at Liverpool next season? He won't be.

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28 Mar 2026 11:31:29
I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment with Alonso. I think we'll dither with deciding what to do on Slot then Alonso goes to City, because they won't f around like we do, as we found out with Semenyo & Guehi. Slot will likely stay in the same way that Bodgers did and get sacked at the start of next season after an inevitable poor run of results. Unfortunately there won't be a Klopp around to get us out of the mess we'll be digging in the dregs for a new manager.

As for Wharton, not impressed. Defensively isn't very good, far too slow, zero mobility and for a big lad he has no physicality whatsoever. If he wasn't English no one would pay attention.

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27 Mar 2026 15:20:01
Always liked Salah when he was at Basel and was pretty peeved when he went to Chelsea. I was really excited when he eventually made his way back and signed for us, but never in my wildest dreams did I think he'd go on to do the things he did.

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27 Mar 2026 16:41:45
Clicked send too early. Thank you Mo, I feel very blessed to have seen you at your best and in a Liverpool shirt. Absolute legend. I feel like we've said goodbye to quite a few lately. We've really been treated to some phenomenal players over the last decade or so.

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27 Mar 2026 16:49:00
I thought he was gonna be a backup to Sadio 😂😂. Oh, how wrong I was.

In my defence, though, they did play on the same side at the time.

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27 Mar 2026 17:01:11
Personally, I always knew, back to his Basel days, what he was going to become.

I saw a few clips on thought.

We sign that guy, and he will go down as an all time great, breaking loads of scoring and assist records.

Probably pick up about 2 league titles and Champions League with that guy, I thought.

I could just tell, from the way he moved, that was going to happen. Just an excellent judge of player, I guess.

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27 Mar 2026 17:15:24
LFC 8, according to the latest Klopp interview, Salah had the same fears as you.

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27 Mar 2026 18:13:56
I also loved him at Basel and really really wanted to sign him that January. So glad we got him when we did.

What is the Klopp interview, please?

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27 Mar 2026 18:45:50
Magnificent, Davey. I always said you were great. From the beginning. No, before.

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27 Mar 2026 18:47:09
I was also pretty peeved when he went to Chelsea, and was excited again when we were linked with him. Same though, I never thought he would achieve what he has done. Total club legend.
I'll always be a bit bummed out thinking that he could have carried on with us had he just been used more effectively had he been accommodated by a better manager, but hey ho.

Onwards, upwards and blessed to have watched him smash up the Prem for the last decade.

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27 Mar 2026 18:51:43
Remember seeing him at Basel absolutely destroying some of the best defenders in European football, his pace was electric. I'm sad to see him go, but he's leaving on good terms and he's given his best years to the club. Deserves nothing but respect for his contribution and brilliance.

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27 Mar 2026 18:51:59
Mourinho literally signed Salah to stop us from signing him.

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27 Mar 2026 20:46:08
TSK, you're 100% right. He was signed to stop us getting him. They also did same with Debruner. Stop United getting him. But that's Josey all over and Chelsea.

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27 Mar 2026 21:43:45
From memory we offered around £4 million for Salah when his club wanted £12 million. Ed002 called it a low ball offer and Salah. Nothing to do with Mourinho and everything to do with Liverpool taking the p.

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27 Mar 2026 14:47:28
Anyone else catch Jurgens' interview with the Anfield Wrap? Interesting regards Salah. A question for the older supporters, though. Jurgen had this aura about him, a natural leader who you'd fight to impress and perform for. Was it similar to Shanks?

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27 Mar 2026 15:05:41
Shanks was of the age of great managers, KP

Revie, Busby, Bill Nicholson, Joe Mercer & I think Everton had a decent bloke in charge back then!
They all had the ability to get great players to perform and lesser players to play above themselves and Klopp falls into that bracket probably more than any modern day managers I can think of - I suppose Fergie comes close.



Jose & Pep, although great managers, are a bit different imo in that they seem very rigid and almost it's my way or the highway, but they've all had the aura about them.

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27 Mar 2026 16:40:16
I could listen to Jurgen talking all day and not just about football. He has that ability to captivate an audience, with people just waiting on his every word. Shankly seemed to have that as well from bits u would see on old footage of him talking.
V few people have that ability, Johan Cruyff would be another.

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27 Mar 2026 17:23:55
Shoulda gone to Trivargo, Digger.

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27 Mar 2026 19:20:08
Fergie didn't motivate his players, he motivated the refs instead.

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27 Mar 2026 19:29:18
Show Sir Ribenaberry Whiskybaby some respect!

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27 Mar 2026 20:55:25
Shankly and Klopp were very similar. There really is not a lot between them both.
When Shanks spoke, everybody listened. He did not make millions of pounds like Klopp, but to us Shanks was worth billions.

He could walk on water. He was the foundation of Liverpool FC.
Klopp was like a reincarnation of Shanks. We lost belief, but Klopp gave it back to us in bucket loads and took us to another level. YNWA.

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27 Mar 2026 13:11:02
Just watched Diomande highlights on YouTube. He looks so exciting. If we can do a deal for him at the right price, I will be so happy to see him as a Salah replacement. Brings genuine pace and skill. Also, seems to prefer to play on the right despite being right footed (very two-footed though). Having a right footed player on the right will also suit Isak and Ekitike more in terms of crosses, I believe.

Moreover, he is a Liverpool fan and I want us to go back to the model of buying players with elite potential that turn into superstars instead of buying the finished products already. Should also be much cheaper than Olise, and hopefully we can invest that money to buy a combative passing profile for midfield. A Joao Gomes type player would be ideal in my opinion.

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27 Mar 2026 14:31:11
He's exactly who we need but wanted by all top clubs. We have to get Champions League and the pull of Alonso if he is to be in charge.

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27 Mar 2026 14:39:38
Well, he is apparently a huge Liverpool fan too, Keegans.

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27 Mar 2026 15:20:15
Patrik, I think he kinda denied the rumours regarding him being a Liverpool supporter and explained it's more so that his father is a huge supporter.

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27 Mar 2026 13:07:08
I’m going to say it... I’m really disappointed and underwhelmed with Wirtz.

That’s not to say that I don’t think it will come good for him; I think we’ve seen enough from him to know he’s a footballer of real quality but nobody is going to convince me that when paying a transfer fee of that amount, we should expect anything other than an absolute top-level player who dictates, changes and wins matches for the team on a regular basis and is the stand out player more often than not. He is the ninth most expensive footballer anywhere ever. I know the player doesn’t set the price, but the price does set our expectation and for that amount of money I expected more in his first season (even allowing for a couple of minor injuries).

Mitigating factors include the abysmal performances of some of the players around him and the fact that collectively the team has been poor and the manager is evidently struggling but, again, for £116m I am expecting a player who stands out regardless of what is going on around him, a player so good that you could put him in any team anywhere in the world and he would still raise the standards of the team.

Looking forward to seeing more from him next season. By the way, his finishing is either technically flawed or lacks composure – quite a few very good chances he’s missed this season.

More generally, we came into this season having just signed the third and ninth most expensive footballers in the world, ever. Isak obviously unlucky with the injury but had struggled for lift off prior to that. Whilst this seems like (and is) a negative post, the positive is that next season we’ll actually get to see Isak and Wirtz together, fit and with a full pre-season, possibly with a new manager who has a better instinct for how to get the best out of them.

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27 Mar 2026 14:35:42
The problem is the other players aren't on his wavelength.

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27 Mar 2026 14:46:28
We can't progress the ball to him from defence and through midfield, so he is having to come and fetch it himself. That is not the best use of Florian Wirtz.

After that, we don't have enough players who want to run in behind.

Again, that weakens Wirtz's options.

Add a CB or RB that can progress the ball quicker, a midfielder that can progress the ball quicker, and a winger or two that want to run in behind, and Wirtz will thrive.

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27 Mar 2026 14:48:37
RR, I'm disappointed for him tbh not in him.

He's shown more than enough to show in the right set up with the right man management, he's going to be a great player -

I think he thought he was coming into a championship winning team with a bit of swagger and flair, but we all know what happened there.

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27 Mar 2026 14:56:38
At Leverkusen, all the pieces were in place for him to excel, Xhaka provided him with a safety net, Grimaldo and Frimpong worked in tandem with him seamlessly when he drifted to either side, and the two center forwards (who were willing pressers and incredibly hard working off the ball) knew instinctively where he would be and would make the runs he could pick out or rotate with him when he took up positions further forward.

At Liverpool, the full backs have either been injured, rotated or not given a consistent role from game to game. We also aren't playing in a way where our forwards are consistently trying to get in behind the defense. Wirtz, meanwhile, can play a free role and look excellent roaming in one half, and then be instructed to stay on the left wing the next half. Nothing is stable from game to game and sometimes from half to half, and the consequence is his performances look inconsistent from game to game.



As for expectations, he is not the kind of player who can change the fortunes of a club on his own, he's not like a Suarez or a Gerrard in that regard. But given the right environment and with all the pieces around him, he connects everything in the final third and speeds up the play by seeing/attempting passes that few others would.

I do wish he would dribble more with us, it was one of his primary qualities at Leverkusen, taking his man on and then causing the defense to collapse by drawing them on to him, following which he would release it to a forward running towards goal. We've seen that sometimes and Ekitike has been the beneficiary, but not enough. He has an excellent shot from range, too, but we've barely seen that at all in the Premier League yet.

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27 Mar 2026 15:25:29
He has certainly had mixed performances. There is plenty to come from him. Quite shocked at the amount of times he has found himself in front of goal and produced an effort like when you try and strike the ball dreaming in bed.

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27 Mar 2026 16:16:08
Beef, funny comment that! Glad it's not only me that happens to!

OP, only Szobo can look back and say he's had a consistent season at a high level. Wirtz has shown plenty of amazing moments, but often for me, the players around him are not on the same wavelength as Gmil pointed out.

That is the sort of stuff that's honed on the training pitch.

We seem to have the occasional performance in us, but it's usually a one-off game before 5-6 games of poor to mediocre to abysmal. That's not because of Wirtz.

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27 Mar 2026 16:53:21
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it. Wirtz has been shocking like everybody else.

I'd point at the manager though who can't get a tune out of any of them for a prolonged period of time.

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27 Mar 2026 17:02:39
First season, too soon to judge. I can think of plenty of top top players who didn't set the world alight in their first season after a big move. He went from being the main man at Leverkusen playing in a system that was ideal for his style with players who constantly looked to play through him and a manager who knew how to get the best out of him to just another number under a lot of scrutiny for us, in a wretched and inconsistent set up that clearly doesn't play to his strengths with a manager who couldn't get a tune out of a brass band.

His confidence was shot for a lot of the season due to his slow start which seems to affect him big time, and of course Slot isn't exactly the type of guy you want to be getting pep talks from, so I think we'll see a big step up in performance from Wirtz so long as the Summer goes as expected. If Xabi comes in he'll most certainly get the best out of him.

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27 Mar 2026 17:51:04
If Alonso comes he'll get the best out of him like he did at Leverkusen. No concerns here, the lads not been great, but neither has anybody else because of the bullsh*t way we've been playing. Get Slot out and we'll see a massive change.

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27 Mar 2026 18:17:53
Salah, mate, I couldn't agree more. Get Alonso in, please, God, and we will all see a totally different Wirtz and Ping Pong lads.

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27 Mar 2026 18:36:40
He's been weak and slow of mind.

I think that will improve next season.

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27 Mar 2026 21:02:33
Wirtz is carrying a massive fee on his shoulders and he is only a young lad.
I watched Wirtz a lot before he signed for us. He is an exceptional footballer, he needs to bed in to club, new country, environment, new language (Scouse), new home.
I think next season we will see the best of him.
YNWA.

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27 Mar 2026 10:32:29
What does everyone think of the rules being introduced at the FIFA World Cup? These are to avoid timewasting supposedly and let the game flow better.

I have copy and pasted these from Instagram, so apologies if any are incorrect.

They are as follows:

Substituted players must exit within 10 seconds, or the replacement waits 1 minute before entering.



Throw-ins must be taken within 5 seconds - if takes longer, then the possession will go to the opponents.

Players who receive medical treatment must leave the pitch for 1 minute before returning in-game.

VAR can now review second yellow cards and corner kick decisions — if there is a ‘clear and obvious error’.

Thanks.

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27 Mar 2026 10:57:08
I think these rules will be great when they are introduced to the Premier League and the refs adhere to them for the first 4 weeks of the season only.

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27 Mar 2026 11:07:44
These rule changes will have Premier referees suffering with anxiety and stress if they have to police the new rules, they find it difficult enough to cope with the rules in situ, which in most cases they can not implement. YNWA.

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27 Mar 2026 11:56:48
Can't wait to see the 3 minute long decision making for if it was a corner or not.

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27 Mar 2026 12:04:01
I guess it's one of those where it's good in theory and then you remember it's a bunch of muppets trying to put them in place. 🤣

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27 Mar 2026 12:22:59
Don't see the 5s throw in or 10s subs being rigoursly enforced for some reason.

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27 Mar 2026 12:33:00
The logical answer to time wafting is stopping the clock every time the ball goes dead. Then there's no advantage to wasting time.

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27 Mar 2026 13:32:18
I don't get the throw in one. Just stop the clock for throw ins until the ball is in play, same for keepers. Stop the clock until the keeper kicks or throws it into play. Stops time wasting without stopping players/keepers genuinely looking for the right throw/goal kick. Re the one where players who receive treatment going off for a minute, seems to me it mainly affects the generally injured players.

There's a foul, player needs treatment, and the benefit goes to the team who committed the foul, the other going to 10.
Men, it's the players who
Roll around for a minute and get up just before physios come on who are the prob. For me, again stop the clock, add the time on! Any "time wasting" is irrelevant if the ref "Stops time". You might get a spike in length of injury time at first, but players will still learn.

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27 Mar 2026 14:50:22
I am in favour as long as they will enforce them.

Would also like something doing about the grappling, faking of head injuries and the way players like Gabriel and Saliba buy fouls for the slightest contact.

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27 Mar 2026 15:11:32
I'm in favour of them but Slot will ruin the World Cup.

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27 Mar 2026 15:51:07
I agree. I think any rule changes will just be eventually exploited to the advantage of teams who aren't taking the throw, they'll find a way to s***house through it.

Stop the clock leaves zero room for cheating and zero room to exploit.

You'd probs have to put a time limit of some sorts though, so they can't take the p@ss to slow momentum down.

Basically, gamesmanship is being taken to new levels every season and sucking the enjoyment out of the game.

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27 Mar 2026 15:56:43
Time wasting isn't just about running the clock down, it's also about disrupting the momentum of your opponent, so simply stopping the clock when the ball's out of play isn't good enough imo.

I personally like these rules, but I feel like they will be just as inconsistently enforced as the existing rules.

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27 Mar 2026 16:25:34
Stopping the clock seems like an obvious solution but Arsenal games would be about 140 minutes long a la American sports. Next, we will be watching commercials during the games, so be careful what you wish for.

The 8 second rule with the keepers seems to have been a success, so apply that to throw-ins. Some of these long throws take up about a minute, as do free kick set-ups and even corners. As long as the emphasis is on cheating to gain any sort of advantage, whether that's to waste time, win a pen or a set-piece, the time wasting will continue.

More yellow cards and a much higher bar for what is a free kick will eliminate the majority of time wasting.

The players are like politicians: they bring in rules, then look to circumvent them to gain an advantage. Rip up the script, start over and give us back our football. Stop the cheating, the gamesmanship, etc. Not more rules that will no doubt be exploited.

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27 Mar 2026 18:38:24
Are these for real? Sounds impossible to enforce.

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28 Mar 2026 09:13:16
On paper, they sound positive, the issue here is unfortunately that the referees seem to pick and choose when to actually enforce such rules.

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27 Mar 2026 09:41:43
Regarding the ticket price increase, unfortunately people will pay it to see the team. I wish I was local to watch, but unfortunately it's a long drive from here in Dorset. Only two times I've seen us and that's in away ends. One was at Anfield in 2011, sitting with the Chelsea fans listening to their three songs. I heard the crowd singing YNWA and had to sing it in my head, wishing I was in the Kop, but also staring at Kenny thinking it's Dalglish.

I can't believe it. The other time was at Everton in the Gladys end. I think Kuyt won a penalty and I stood up to cheer, but remembered quickly where I was and had to shout cheating reds lol. Evertonian next to me said, 'Mate, you're not a Red, are you.' I said no, just fuming. Clenched my fist as he scored 😂.

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27 Mar 2026 10:31:39
KP - Reminds me of an FA Cup game at Ashton Gate in 94 (I think), stood in the East End.
Had to cower behind the steel Stantion when Liverpool scored!

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27 Mar 2026 10:44:42
I was studying at Derby Uni and it was my Birthday. Coincidentally, Liverpool were playing Derby at their Pride Park stadium on the same day. I just had to get tickets and succeeded, but sat with the home fans behind the goal. That day Liverpool won 4 nil. Heskey bagged a hat trick. Owen was stretchered off. When we scored, I still celebrated. I am wondering how I didn't get dealt with, but at that age, I didn't have a care in the world! There was a wayward Derby shot where the ball landed in my hands.

The ball boy tried to grab it from me, but I resisted and handed it back to Sander Westerweld, who acknowledged and thanked me. It was my first taste of watching Liverpool live, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

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27 Mar 2026 11:13:33
Thanks, guys, enjoyed your posts about being in the wrong end. Now I have to revert back to reading about sacking Slot and how players are not performing and Mo leaving. Just another day as a Reds fan. YNWA.

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27 Mar 2026 11:45:00
Regarding tickets and how times change. I've told this story before, so forgive me.

1984, Notts County away. We needed a draw to win the title. My partner, now wife, and I caught the train to Nottingham, simply queued to get in the away end, no ticket required.

We drew the game 0-0 to win our 3rd successive league title. Polite applause at the end. Wasn't even on TV.

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27 Mar 2026 11:50:48
Had a similar experience, Keegans Purm. My cousin's husband got tickets right at the back of the Gwladys Street End for Brendon Rogers' last match. I remember Ings scoring a pen to put us 1 up and trying not to celebrate - never been so uncomfortable watching a match, I genuinely was worried about being lynched if I was found out.

We were terrible that day, and then halfway down the M6 back to Cornwall got the news that Brendon had been sacked.

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27 Mar 2026 14:35:03
2001 Charity Shield
Man U friend of mine got tickets and asked if I wanted to go, but in the Man U end.
He had two tickets.
Me and a Liverpool Fan went, and when we scored, me, my mate and two random guys next to us all stood up and quickly went from cheering to standing in silence.


I then asked the two guys next to us if they were Liverpool and very quietly they said yea!!
Sadly, had to go before the Shield lift, but what a mad day!!

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