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10 Jun 2023 11:50:16
Benjamin Pavard Is name being touted to be on Liverpool's radar Ed's and yep you've guessed its all over twitter, you've probably answered this but can't say I can find it.

Sid19

{Ed002's Note - Benjamin Pavard (CB/RB) Chelsea see Pavard as a direct replacement for Cesar Azpilicueta but with a RB already purchased for the summer they have another CB priority. The interest of Manchester United will likely not be of interest to the player who won't want to be in playing exclusively as a RB. Inter failed with an offer in January but will return in the summer. Milan have had ongoing issues with the RB position and may look to deal in the summer, something the player is open to subject to being able to play at CB as well. A wildcard option might be Barcelona or Juventus. Bayern are open to a new contract and Thomas Tuchel will not want to be looking for a replacement. Expect a new contract to now be rejected and clubs to open negotiations. If Liverpool are now interested I can only assume it is via the new Sporting Director.}


1.) 10 Jun 2023 12:29:47
Ed002 thanks so much for that in-depth reply I appreciate it mate.


2.) 10 Jun 2023 13:21:45
That would be a clever purchase. If we also added Gravenberch I would call that a good window.


3.) 10 Jun 2023 13:45:57
Acered you mean along with Thuram aswell or would you be happy with Mac Allister, Gravenberch and Pavard?

Have to admit I'd absolutely love to see Pavard come in he's the perfect player to fill in at CB/ RB or even the inverted RB/ CM role he's that good and has bag of experience.

Would personally love to add Thuram too and that window is golden.


4.) 10 Jun 2023 21:06:23
Skezza11 I don’t think Thuram arrives without Kone but those two would be great. Just can’t see that happening but we will see.


5.) 10 Jun 2023 21:35:20
So true Acered. I went for a job with a friend once and told the interviewer you hire us both or you don't get me. It's common practice.


6.) 10 Jun 2023 22:39:33
Not sure what anyone sees in Pavard. An average player that will probably not want to play second fiddle to Ibou and/ or Trent.


7.) 10 Jun 2023 23:05:25
I hope we don’t go for him. No pace, no mobility, poor attitude and a mediocre defender.


8.) 10 Jun 2023 23:07:40
@Davey, same thing happened to me one year at an audition for the Christmas pantomime. In the end they just hired me and the pantomime horse looked really weird that year.

@FPF, I agree, seems a potential purchase because we think we need a defender rather than it being the defender we might need. The only thing I can think is that they have someone lining up to buy Matip or Gomez. As we have TAA, Bradley, Ramsey, Matip and Gomez to play on the right side I don’t see the point.


9.) 10 Jun 2023 23:30:24
So in other words Matip and Gomez are better defenders VV give ya head a wobble as every player that gets associated with Liverpool are never any good give Klopp a ring give him some of your wisdom and expertise in transfers and player guidance.


10.) 10 Jun 2023 23:34:53
I personally think he’s a decent defender. Okay not the strongest or quickest, but makes up for that with intelligence. For me, not many better at the right back centre half cover/ competition.


11.) 10 Jun 2023 23:56:29
It’s the level we’re at, I think players like this will improve us.
When we get back into the champions league and back dining at the top table we need to buy the better players then.
Our mistakes can be beneficial for future success if we learn from them next time round.


12.) 11 Jun 2023 00:28:28
Don’t we have some young talented RBs?


13.) 11 Jun 2023 01:21:20
Pavard could free up Trent allowing him more time in his midfield role. gives us options and another dynamic.


14.) 11 Jun 2023 08:31:16
We do Ron but they aren’t as good because they didn’t cost £30m+.


15.) 11 Jun 2023 09:52:14
I would guess that if he signed it would be to play RCB as he is far more suited to the new system of 3 at the back when attacking than Gomez or Matip, but where is required to cover the RB space when Trent pushes into midfield.

Ibou plays this role well but can’t play every game.


16.) 11 Jun 2023 10:11:30
We were getting players like Sadio and Gini last time we were out of the Champs League, players on the way up. can't see this happening, not going to want to be cover to Ibou or trent and can't see trent going to midfield permanently. surely if we were going to sign a CB/ fullback player it would be a left sided one.


17.) 11 Jun 2023 19:34:17
Ramsay going on loan, and I would not be surprised to see Bradley have a season in the championship after his recent success.


 

 

20 Mar 2023 17:20:08
According to David Ornstein Twitter page this is his last tweet he put out a few hours back-

" As things stand, Liverpool increasingly unlikely to sign Jude Bellingham this summer. Expected price and financial power of rivals puts Liverpool hopes in doubt. Pursuit not off and no firm decisions but sense is Man City + Real Madrid in stronger position".

Sid19

{Ed025's Note - exactly what ED002 told us 2 weeks ago sid..


1.) 20 Mar 2023 18:12:13
You have to laugh Ed025. Everyone in melt down over Ornstein but if they just RTFP they'd already have seen Ed002 basically say he expects Madrid to win out!

{Ed025's Note - i know MK, maybe if ornstein read these pages a bit more he could save himself a fortune on ink mate.. :)


2.) 20 Mar 2023 18:35:05
Unlike you MK most of us don’t spend their daily lives on here. It’s a forum which people should be dropping in and out at will.

{Ed025's Note - people can come on here as much or as little as they want FK, some have more free time than others mate and there is no limit on posting so why not use the site when you want?..


3.) 20 Mar 2023 18:47:48
MK I can assure you I’m not in melt down, good try though, over his tweets and true Ed025 I read that too and I personally think Man City will be his destination.

{Ed025's Note - its a 3 horse race still sid and i believe liverpool still have half a shout mate..


4.) 20 Mar 2023 19:36:22
I don't get people having melt down's about Bellingham not joining. At the price it was always going to be a long shot, with the spending power of Man City and RM, there is no clause, so Dortmund could set the price. To be honest I would rather us rebuild the team not blow out wad on one player. And for the FSG/ Klopp out people if we don't get Bellingham need to remove head from backside. I have supported LFC for 40 years, I have seen good owners, bad owners, good and bad managers. I think we are doing pretty well on both at this time - bad season or not.


5.) 20 Mar 2023 19:43:13
The only way Bellingham comes to us is if he himself wants the Liverpool move . Obviously Madrid and city are better teams than us with more money so unless the lad wants to don the famous red shirt and be a superstar in red I’d expect him to play elsewhere. Let’s hope our owners can pull something out the hat but I rather doubt it now . If we would have been up their in the league and champions league maybe but we look shot all over the pitch.


6.) 20 Mar 2023 19:46:16
Apologies for the rant. Has been building, been a long day.


7.) 20 Mar 2023 21:32:43
We won't know a thing for sure til he’s holding up a new shirt.
Fingers crossed it’ll be a red one.


8.) 20 Mar 2023 21:57:17
Ed025, did you just confirm that Ed002 is not really a rodeo clown but actually David Ornstein?

{Ed025's Note - no stone, the rodeo clown bit is true, but David does wish he was ED002 mate, he could get things right then.. :)


9.) 21 Mar 2023 10:49:20
Frode Kippers, touched a nerve there did I? Takes about 3 minutes to skim the pages for the Ed's comments as they're bright red. Don't project your laziness onto me.

Sid, if you're not one of the people in melt down my comment doesn't apply to you so stop trying to be offended ?.


10.) 21 Mar 2023 12:29:02
Doesn't matter if City and Madrid have the higher spending power, the lad wants to come here at the end of the day it's up to him too, all it takes is Liverpool to structure the deal accordingly, we also have a few U23's who could be used in part exchange.

{Ed002's Note - Dortmund are not interested in part exchange deals.}


 

 

11 Aug 2020 12:46:21
Ed’s 1 and 2,I know you’ve answered this before I think, so apologies if you have and I couldn’t find it but if you’ve time could you explain how transfer fees are worked out and where the money goes and additional monies paid after the transfer fee is agreed if there is any ie fees, taxes, agents etc
Many thanks Eds.

Sid19

{Ed002's Note - It might be an apt time to explain again about the cost of transfers (excluding wages). What is paid by the buying club would typically include:

(a) Transfer fee - the big number.
(b) Any levy applied by the local FA – 5% for the Premier League.
(c) Tax due on the transfer fee – typically this will be VAT (at varying rates across Europe) some or all of which should be reclaimable.
(d) Agent fees – this may be to one or more agents (as an example, Liverpool have spent more than £100M plus VAT on agent fees over the past three years (nearly double the next highest) including £28M last season alone when only spending a tiny amount on transfers).
(e) Tax due on the agent fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the agent bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(f) Intermediary fees – this may be to one or more sponging leeches (what do you mean you have a super agent?) .
(g) Tax due on the Intermediary fees – typically this is VAT at the local rate where the Intermediary bills from – it is not reclaimable.
(h) Signing on fee to the player (possibly including non-reclaimable VAT if the player is VAT registered).
(i) Legal fees.
(j) VAT on legal fees which is reclaimable.
(k) Moving/relocation costs for the player.
(l) VAT on moving/relocation costs which is reclaimable.
(m) Solidarity and Training Contribututions (see below).
(n) Paying up insurance costs to the selling club (usually waived).

What is paid by the selling club would typically include:

(a) If the player is under 24 and moving between different football associations, a Solidarity contribution paid to his previous clubs responsible for his training - this is 5% of the transfer fee received (apportioned 5% of the contribution for each year from the season of his 12th birthday to the season of his 15th birthday and 10% of the contribution for each season from his 16th to 23rd birthdays). This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(b) If the player moves to a higher category club (all clubs being categorised 1 to 4) then Training Compensation is due for the period of age 12 to 21. Compensation is due to all clubs when the player turns from amateur to professional and thereafter only when he moves from his final training club to another club. The initial training compensation is levied at the training costs associated with Category 4 clubs. The subsequent figure is agreed between the sides or tribuneral if necessary. This is generally (there are exceptions) recoverable from the buying club but responsibility (that is meant to be with the buying club) can be assigned to the selling club.
(c) Any monies owed to the player if he did not request a transfer – again this is 5% of the transfer fee received.
(d) Any monies owed to the player in terms of his contract (typically outstanding owed wages (not future wages) and bonuses).
(e) Any money contractually due to a previous club as the result of a sell-on clause.}


1.) 11 Aug 2020 13:12:13
What happens to the levy collected by the local FA? That 5% presumably adds up to a huge amount for all the transfers in the Premier league.

{Ed002's Note - The FA is a not-for-profit organisation so after taking the operating costs out the rest goes back in to the game.}


2.) 11 Aug 2020 14:47:21
ed002 how did we spend £28m on agent fees last season we only signed the young lads and Minamino. I get it when we are signing the likes of VVD and Alisson but what has that gone on.
cheers ed.

{Ed002's Note - Advisors, the slush fund, payments hanging over etc..}


3.) 11 Aug 2020 15:53:54
wow, so many variables involved. So, if we see in the news that the player is £30m, it is only the Transfer fee (the big number) and the rest of the amount can amount to a bigger figure (on top of the 30m) right?

{Ed002's Note - Of course.}


4.) 11 Aug 2020 17:57:40
This is exactly why the "net spend" nonsense Sly Sports would keep pushing during transfer windows should be ignored.


5.) 11 Aug 2020 20:13:12
Ed2 thanks so much for that in-depth answer, I appreciate it mate, oh and when supporters say “well we got him on a free transfer so he didn’t cost nothing” looks like it isn’t exactly true, as they say I suppose nothing is free.


6.) 12 Aug 2020 00:14:00
thanks for explaining so clearly Ed2. Football is big business and obviously there are many financial aspects that the general public is unaware when it comes to transactions, operating costs, etc. I just don't like how the media puts talks about it so naively in an uninformed fashion that misinforms the fans.

If running a football club was that easy, (e. g., I sell for 30 mil, ah, now i have this extra money to buy a 30 mil player), there's no need for a board, CFOs, and the like.

I do hope Liverpool gets its act together to spend less during transactions due to our poor dealings with agents, tapping up and whatever not.


7.) 12 Aug 2020 12:06:56
Ed,

I see you saying the FA is no profitable, what about the premier league and the brand does it work off the same model or is it a franchise?

{Ed002's Note - The FA is a not for profit organisation. The Premier League do make a small profit after costs (wages, prize money) are deducted and some goes to football related charities.}


 

 

06 Aug 2018 10:33:27
Leon Bailey last week said in an interview that there has been interest by Roma, Chelsea and Liverpool this summer, he also does not want to make any promises about staying with the club beyond August 9 when the transfer window closes in England
Fingers crossed then lads.

Sid19

1.) 06 Aug 2018 10:42:43
Where would he fit in, we have a front three. He would want to be a regular starter.


2.) 06 Aug 2018 10:47:14
Interest could mean a Scout watching though.


3.) 06 Aug 2018 11:18:24
He will play left wing with Mane in no.10 role if it should happen I think.


4.) 06 Aug 2018 11:22:29
So Mahrez and Bernardo don't want to start! I'm sick of the idea we can't sign quality players to challenge our first team. What happens if we get injuries? What about last season when our regulars were tired and we lost vital points at West Brom and Chelsea. And YES it has something to do with Man City because they are our 'rivals'


5.) 06 Aug 2018 13:15:32
Kirby, it's not as simple as you make out. There are certain players who will go to clubs expecting to be first choice, others will be content with a lesser role. Shaqiri is happy because of his situation with Stoke. Mahrez had been desperate to leave Leicester for a couple of sessions. Other players wouldn't be ok with what those guys have been offered. Brandt famously rejected us because we couldn't offer first team football.

Yes we need a strong squad but getting a bench full of players as good as our starters is not realistic.


6.) 06 Aug 2018 13:24:12
It’s a squad game now and I think that players at top clubs have to understand that.
It’s unrealistic to think that our front 3 can play every game so we should be looking to sign similar quality to rotate. If they perform they become first choice and play more it really is that simple.


7.) 06 Aug 2018 15:17:36
There were definitely times last season when we started with the t'riffic triumvirate and in the end being able to bring one of them on, fresh when everyone else is lagging would have changed a couple of results, in my opinion. Think of the impact Salah had when he came on against Stoke and won the game for us. Rotation isn't a bad thing when done correctly. Sure, start them in the main, but having a squad of top players keeps competition for places and all players looking to impress, not just resting on their laurels.


8.) 06 Aug 2018 15:19:49
I'm not saying we need to sign anyone else, by the way. Just reiterating Kirby's and BB's points.


9.) 06 Aug 2018 17:06:14
Doh! Kirkby* (autocorrect)


10.) 07 Aug 2018 07:14:11
Has Mane signed that contract he was offered last month? If not, then Bailey interest makes sense.


 

 

14 Jun 2017 20:34:06
According to today's Italian newspaper Il Mattino, Klopp is still very keen on Napoli's Piotr Zielinski, and an offer of £25M has already been made and Naby Keita is still a big interest, although Liverpool could be priced out, £50 mil or more as his club don't need to sell or need the money.

Sid19

1.) 14 Jun 2017 21:05:02
They can keep zielinski.


2.) 14 Jun 2017 21:06:39
So, we're interested in signing Zielinski when we've already moved on and signed Wijnaldum instead last season? Sounds like a load of tosh to me mate.


3.) 15 Jun 2017 01:49:59
In fairness lads zielinski had a very good season with Napoli.


4.) 15 Jun 2017 03:25:12
Not completely out of question to target Zielinski. People may say Gini was the alternative we signed but we did not have European football last season. Lucas is going so a midfielder will probably arrive. Zielinski had a very good season at Napoli and Klopp obviously rates him highly so what's wrong with trying to sign him now?


5.) 15 Jun 2017 03:40:18
Nabby keita or Nothing!


6.) 15 Jun 2017 05:57:55
Done see why we'd need Zielinski when we have Gini, Llalana, Coutinho, Grujic able to play attacking midfield, and Can and Hendo can play further forward too if required.


7.) 15 Jun 2017 11:02:32
Zielinski will be another wrong purchase. We need a CM and not an ACM! Naby Kieta, Savic or Kovacic please.


8.) 15 Jun 2017 11:02:02
I think Zielinski would add diversity to our midfield, unless Couthinho drops deep, we do not have a midfield player that can take a ball, carry it, run at the defense, dribble past the first defender, then thread a pass while other defenders are scrambling to close down.


9.) 16 Jun 2017 01:31:50
I'm looking forward to seeing how Grujic starts next season.
Hopefully he gets an injury free run of games.
He'll be like a new signing as will Danny Inges, but with Danny it'll probably be later in the season.

There was a lot of posts about Cann and his value to the team, I thought that towards the end of the season he was improving game by game. In my view he was an unsung man of the match in a lot of the games.


 

 

 

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29 Oct 2023 00:51:26
Thoughts are with Luis Diaz hope all gets sorted out quickly.

Sid19

1.) 30 Oct 2023 07:16:12
Dad still hasn't been found unfortunately.


 

 

20 Jul 2023
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Sid19

1.) 20 Jul 2023 21:36:08
Absolutely Sid. 100% effort every time he stepped unto the field. Liverpool legend.


2.) 20 Jul 2023 22:35:35
Seriously quality footballer. One of the best england have ever had. Loved the guy and wish him the best. Hendo was a superb captain and leaves with everything he could possibly win. Any 1 that bashes him should go support another team.


3.) 20 Jul 2023 22:47:06
I remember rival fans back in the day saying,

"Can you imagine the sight of Jordan Henderson lifting the Premier League and the Champions League trophies? That would be legendar. Hahaha. "

And then, they woke up and their nightmares came true. Haven't stopped laughing since.

J. Hendo. Captain. Legend.


4.) 21 Jul 2023 03:07:01
Nobody (as far as I am aware) have questioned his contribution or importance to our success, or that he has been a great ambassador for our club. What people are rightfully pointing out is the hypocritical nature of being a figurehead for LBGTQ+ and anti-racism campaigns, then moving to a country with abhorrent policies related to both. It is so hypocritical and it really makes it seem like those sentiments were for marketing/ image purposes and not because of any sort of morality he had. I would feel let down if I was a part of any of those demographics and looked up to Henderson only to see him making this move. The ire is completely justified irrespective of his achievements for us.


5.) 21 Jul 2023 03:22:28
@Magico, Hendo has been excellent at Liverpool but imho he isn’t one of the best that England have ever had.


6.) 21 Jul 2023 07:01:22
For all we know he’s going to go to Saudi and wear Rainbow laces to drive change from within. Who knows? It isn’t really our concern or business. I support liverpool and he’s been a fantastic captain for the club I support. My involvement and opinions end there. Best steer clear of the politics.


7.) 21 Jul 2023 07:53:49
Been done to death Seano. It is quite possible that’s he is both a fantastic captain and a hypocrite.


8.) 21 Jul 2023 08:05:23
I’m more disappointed he’s chosen to leave one of the biggest clubs in world football to go and play for a club he probably didn’t know even existed 2 months ago.

All because of money and the fact his performances would have to merit his selection. And he chose this without even backing himself to put a marker in the sand in pre season.

He’s been a great captain for us and has won the lot.

After so long at the club he deserved to go out in front of a packed Anfield but he’s gone out with a whimper through no choice but his own.

I wish him all the best in the future and thank him for his past. I’d also advise him not to wear Rainbow laces in Saudi lol.

For me a Captain always goes down with the ship. But He chose to jump ship.

Unfortunately my season ticket membership group is paid for so I can’t support someone else so the club is stuck with me for another season.


9.) 21 Jul 2023 09:02:48
Agent: "Jordan, there are people you don't know on the internet saying they're really disappointed in you".

Jordan, whilst riding a unicorn and wearing a solid gold cowboy hat: "Oh right".


10.) 21 Jul 2023 09:12:38
Time to let it go. He is going end of story and time to move ve out.

{Ed025's Note - i agree mate..


11.) 21 Jul 2023 09:14:24
Nice one, Stuie lol.


12.) 21 Jul 2023 10:00:17
Magico - Henderson is not one of the best footballers England have ever had, nor should criticism of him earn a response such as yours.
Henderson should be admired from all around - unlike the vast majority of people, he’s made the absolute most of his talent, forging a highly successful career despite numerous setbacks early on. Great.
However, it is long overdue that Henderson is on his way. His limited quality overall means he was never going to become a 35-year old master able to outplay most even into veteran years. I, for one, am made up to see him and Fabinho, two serious underperformers in recent years and neither deserving of a place in Liverpool’s squad, out and making way for fresh ideas, quality, and vigor.


13.) 21 Jul 2023 09:33:57
Stuie brilliant ?

Agent: Hendo there’s people you don’t know on the internet saying you were a Liverpool legend.

Hendo whilst counting his cash : who the f##k is Liverpool.


14.) 21 Jul 2023 13:29:23
Excellent Stuie. I wouldn't go to the extent JK23 has gone to, but your sentiments probably portray the situation most accurately.

And anyway. Why are more and more politics and personal matters being dragged into things when judging a football player? As a football fan I feel I am entitled to judge a player, but only on the field and how he performs there. What happens after "5pm" and off the field really is none of my business, unless it contravenes laws or is criminal in nature. If he supported LGBT rights that was "optional" and his choice; nobody forced him to do it. If he's "going for money" now, at the end of career, it's his choice; he knows what he's doing. If the two things don't match up, it's life.


15.) 21 Jul 2023 15:07:45
Hendo is still 1 of the best England players and captains that are still playing. They got to euro final. more than what the rest have done since 66. he's a very able player. Maybe he wouldn't make the best 11 of say the Gerrard lampard and Scholes era but name better midfielders since then. And what did they win.


16.) 21 Jul 2023 17:08:42
He does owe us nothing and If he was going to America, another PL club, Spain, Italy etc. I'd wish him well.

But he's still done a scummy thing by agreeing to go to Saudi Arabia and nothing will change my mind on that.


 

 

05 Jul 2023 19:26:53
Congratulations to our very own Curtis Jones and Harvey Elliot on reaching the Euros U21 finals with England.

Sid19

1.) 05 Jul 2023 21:36:06
I thought Curtis played really well. A bit Henderson like.

He was always available, used the ball very well, I don’t think he gave it away once, and good under pressure.

Apart from the odd play, he wasn’t particularly creative, but I don’t think that was what he was asked to do. I think England would have been a much easier team to play against without him.

Isreal were set up to play for the draw, so it’s difficult to draw too much from the game, but he he looked like the game was very easy for him.

When Harvey came on I thought he was trying a bit too hard, but he still looked like he had a bit of class about him.

Personally, I’ve not given up on either of them quite yet.


2.) 05 Jul 2023 21:46:28
Curtis was excellent. Man of the Match .
Well done to him and Harvey on reaching the Final .


3.) 05 Jul 2023 21:59:54
I feel like his improvement last season is being under-appreciated by some who just want new signings.

He’s on an upward trajectory.


4.) 05 Jul 2023 22:01:20
Footyfan I couldn’t have put it better myself great post and everything you said is spot on mate.


5.) 05 Jul 2023 21:59:54
I feel like his improvement last season is being under-appreciated by some who just want new signings.

He’s on an upward trajectory.

{Ed025's Note - he had a few decent games at the back end of last season Ron, but with the 2 new signings in midfield and a possibility of more to come i cant see him figuring much this season mate, i expect him to maybe used in cup games and Europa league matches myself..


6.) 05 Jul 2023 22:40:22
Hopefully reaching the final will increase his transfer value as I would move him on personally.


7.) 05 Jul 2023 22:57:04
100% Ron.


8.) 05 Jul 2023 23:36:05
The season was dead by then. Hopefully he can still be as influential when it matters next season, then Curtis may become the player we all hoped he’d already be.
He looks so much better now he doesn’t dwell on the ball, something we All pointed out was his big weakness, and Klopp identified him getting rid of that exact problem in his game.


9.) 05 Jul 2023 23:53:43
People who doubt Jones and Elliot keep making the same error in assessing them against a regular starting caliber player in their prime.

It's a really poor way to assess and talk about youth players. Jones and Elliot have been fortunate and unfortunate to have had a lot more responsibility put on to them at this young stage of their career at a massive club due to poor recruiting of the players ahead of them.

but with that opportunity, they haven't exactly stunk out the joint and as Ron said, they have continued an upward trajectory which is all we really want from the youth players in the squad.

The constant assessment of these two as if they need to the prime version of themselves is crazy.


10.) 05 Jul 2023 23:55:52
They are 22 and 20 respectively and people are writing them off? They’ve hardly even started their careers yet. Both have huge potential evident by the fact they have been in and around the first team of one the best teams in the world recently since their teens. I think some people forget sometimes how uncommon that is. Yeah neither might not be the next Gerrard, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be very starters or squad players that will go the extra mile because they love the club.


11.) 06 Jul 2023 00:41:08
Totally agree Faith and Westwood. ??.


12.) 05 Jul 2023 23:32:06
Ed025, I think if Curtis goes well in pre-season and on the training pitch and does want is required when he gets game time, he might get more games than you think. When you look at the last couple of years and the injuries (including one with his eye that was just a freakish accident) the club - Klopp - has stood by him whilst letting contemporaries like Cain and Clarkson, off the top of my head, move on. I think Klopp rates him. I think Klopp wanted him to change his style of play which has taken longer than expected because of injuries, but I really do think Klopp rates him.

{Ed025's Note - i love to see the youngsters get a chance WDW, i just dont think you pay nigh on £100m for 2 players to come and sit on the bench mate..


13.) 06 Jul 2023 07:35:38
Jones had a good last 8-10 games of the season but the 38 games before that were poor.

But if we are judging players on last seasons form and performances going into the new season then 3 quarters of them don’t start.

Last season means little and every player will be starting pre season with a clean slate and opportunity to impress Klopp.

Jones has just as much chance as getting game time as the other midfielders if he hits the ground running in pre season.

Same applies to everyone.


14.) 06 Jul 2023 08:41:13
25 - Jones and Elliot obviously aren't going to be the regular first choice starters ahead of Mac Allister and Szoboslai. Is anyone making that point?

{Ed025's Note - I’m not saying they are faith. Just that signing these shiny new toys is stifling the youth at all clubs mate. It just seems that is it really worth having an academy when the youngsters don’t get a chance? The clamour for silverware at most clubs means that the dream for these lads will become a nightmare at some point..


15.) 06 Jul 2023 10:52:46
I think you are right Ed25. It’s hard to see Mac Allister or Szoboszlai not being preferred as starters but it seems like Curtis might have turned a corner mentally. The last dozen league games and a good run with the U-21’s won’t have harmed his confidence.

{Ed025's Note - it’s a catch 22 scenario WDW. Even if the lads do really well is the manager going to drop a player who has cost squillions for a kid who may or may not be good enough? It’s a big shout imo and the youngsters are probably praying for an injury for them to get a shot. Or they may have to move down the ladder a bit mate..


16.) 09 Jul 2023 03:38:58
25 - I disagree in the sense that it's unrealistic for Jones and Elliot to be relied upon at a club like Liverpool as regular starters. If it were up to you are you saying that you think Liverpool would be better to have signed midfielders who would be back-ups to Jones/ Elliot?

{Ed025's Note - im not saying that at all faith, im saying that i think they should be given game time where appropriate like in cup and Europa games or whats the point of keeping them and stifling their careers, the thing is that supporters like shiny new toys and have very little patience when it comes integrating youngsters mate, so you might as well scrap the academies..


17.) 09 Jul 2023 11:31:49
25 - I agree in principle but you've lost me with regards to Elliot and Jones. With those 2 Jones will most likely reach 100 appearances for the club this season, ELliot is already over 50.

We know they're not ready to be relied on as the regular starters, but at their age and development, stepping up as a starter when required, leading make-shift cup teams will be their role this season. I don't see how two new shiny toys would stop them from fulfilling the role they were going to have this season anyways.


 

 

28 Jun 2023 15:00:27
Congrats to Andy Robertson for getting his MBE for services to football and his charity work in his home country
Take a bow Andrew Robertson MBE.

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1.) 28 Jun 2023 15:42:53
Robbo is top gadgie.


 

 

 

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04 Aug 2023 22:38:54
He was on the bench though so I read.

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30 Jun 2023 21:37:13
Dominik Szoboszlai, welcome to Liverpool our new No.8.

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11 Jun 2023 20:20:01
Haha I can’t wait to see what VV has to say about this rumour he’ll be having kittens, although to be honest I personally don’t rate him apart from his free kicks I’m not sure what he could bring to the Liverpool table.

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10 Jun 2023 12:29:47
Ed002 thanks so much for that in-depth reply I appreciate it mate.

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20 Mar 2023 20:17:19
No idea who he is but what Sir Kenneth Mathieson Dalglish MBE says is what we are more interested in hearing.

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29 Dec 2023 11:21:26
Great analysis Ed001,it seems to me that I could be wrong but some of the games we play looks a lot like Klopp is using his own tactics, although saying that Ed, when we play bad I’m sure nearly every poster on here would blame Lijnders, in your opinion are Liverpool still playing the Lijnders tactics and it’s slowly working or have we reverted back to Klopp’s style of football.

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{Ed001's Note - I think it is a mix of both their ideas.}


 

 

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05 Jul 2023 22:57:04
100% Ron.

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05 Jul 2023 22:01:20
Footyfan I couldn’t have put it better myself great post and everything you said is spot on mate.

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06 Jun 2023 12:44:50
Haha congratulations mate I’m stupid enough to do it twice and fingers crossed as ye are on a winning streak can ya ask Mbappe to pick Bellingham up on the way through.

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31 May 2023 12:51:09
Superb Ed001 personally I can’t see Liverpool ever playing high intensity and full pressing game again like the year we won the PL etc possibly because of the players we have or if even Klopp will go back to training and keep Lindjers at it but even with possible new younger players coming in via the youth players or transfers I don’t think it will happen Once again mate thanks for posting and like as said before we love these posts.

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{Ed001's Note - I think you are probably right, but I hope not. It worked. It gave us a chance against any team in the world.

And thank you mate I really appreciate that.}


 

 





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