Liverpool Rumours Archive September 22 2020

 

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22 Sep 2020 20:48:55
Hi ed1. The Sarr rumours seem to be everywhere, have you heard anything at all? Saying we have agreed a fee with Watford. Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - nothing mate, I know he is desperate to join us because of Mane, so it seems highly unlikely to me unless we are worried about coronavirus issues hitting the team. If Mane or Salah were likely to be leaving, it would make more sense. This is probably the time for a bigger squad though, and it would give him time to bed in. But I don't know anything about it.}

22 Sep 2020 21:07:40
Thank you for the quick response. Have a good evening.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate, you too.}

22 Sep 2020 21:16:33
Even if we sell players who basically aren't going to feature this season (Wilson, Karius etc. ) and Origi and Shaqiri as well, I genuinely don't see how we'd possibly use Sarr, Taku and Jota with enough regularity, given that Salah, Mane and Bobby are undisputably first choice. Not to mention the occasional look in for Elliot. We'd basically be relying on injuries or corona to make Sarr necessary.

And even without Sarr, we've enough cover for pretty much anything but half the team getting corona, in which case we'll likely have fixture postponement anyway.

I reckon it's just Twitter chat with no substance and our interest ended when we decided to go for Jota instead.

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22 Sep 2020 22:15:11
100% agree SR. It was either Sarr or Jota.

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23 Sep 2020 00:49:25
If Sarr comes that would surely mean both Shaqiri and Origi are on their way out.

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23 Sep 2020 03:33:56
Would only make sense if there’s discussions around either Mane or Salah going next summer for a large fee. I hope not as they are both extraordinary and complete game changers, as already evident from first two games. We are incredibly lucky to have both in our squad.

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23 Sep 2020 06:20:35
Before we signed Thiago, I was sure that we had to sell Gini and probably Grujic to make space. Before Jota, I would have thought we'd need to move on one or two from the attacking trio before we brought one in.

I am sure there will be sales, but I am now taking a wait and see approach to any future incomings.

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23 Sep 2020 06:27:53
I'm all for strength and depth, I have a theory that Sarr is purely financial. As the fee is relatively low and the guy is young and talented I think they are looking at it saying "if this guy does well when he plays we can double our money in 2 years"

If it fails you'll still get a pretty penny due to age and reputation.

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23 Sep 2020 06:42:09
Or maybe we are expecting Mane or Salah to leave next year so getting Sarr on a cheap now can lessen the blow.

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23 Sep 2020 07:59:27
Sarr will join if watford can get the asking price down.
I can understand why club is looking to sign players. And i see sarr as a important signing.

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23 Sep 2020 09:13:30
I wouldn't close the chapter on transfers just yet. Still two weeks to go and we saw what happened in just two days. Jota has come in, Brewster is still not gone, and lots of talk about Sarr. To me, if Brewster is not gone soon and Sarr comes in, it means one of Salah or Mané is going, and going now, not next summer. Nobody knows what's going on behind closed doors.

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23 Sep 2020 10:52:25
Indeed, nobody knows what goes on behind close doors but I doubt that either Salah or Mane want a move as they are already at the best team in the world. I don't think selling either of them would go down well with most of the support. We could probably get Sarr by flogging Divock, Shaq and maybe someone like Woodburn but I reckon if the club is looking at anyone at the moment it's likely to be a decent CB. Cheers.

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23 Sep 2020 11:29:03
Saar makes sense to buy if we are looking to the future, we know both Salah and Mane's reps have been in contact with the likes of Barcelona and Madrid in the past. Both will be 29 turning 30 after this season, so selling one of these before their value likely starts to decline majorly wouldn't be a shock. Won't want to be left needing to replace both the year after either. That said 4/ 5 need to leave or are spending the year playing reserves.

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23 Sep 2020 20:13:54
I get what you guys are saying but we only competed realistically in the league last season if we want to compete on more fronts then we need the quality in depth particularly in attack, the high energy area of the pitch I can see Klopp going for Sarr to bolster the front three so we can perform mor consistently on all fronts and not have to rely on kids in lower comps.

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24 Sep 2020 17:52:31
Sarr isn't ready for Liverpool. So buy him now, and make him ready later!

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22 Sep 2020 11:23:31
Morning Ed's, so, the transfer window is drawing towards its end and obviously the priority is sales - are we any closer to cashing in on anyone? And let's say we shift wilson, grujic etc have you any idea whether we may be making 1 more, perhaps a CB (Carlos? ) or after the weekend is Fabinho seen as adequate cover?

Stay safe, and thank you!

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{Ed002's Note - LIverpool are trying very hard to sell players and have a Home Grown issue to resolve. That will be the priority right now.}

22 Sep 2020 12:59:03
Thanks Eds, let's hope we can shift some guys, hopefully for their benefit as well as ours!

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22 Sep 2020 13:06:15
ed002 what are Liverpool doing with the 2 young keepers I think you said there was interest in Adrain letting him go for free would solve one place and am not convinced his any better than the 2 young lads who both turn 22 this season I think. as for karius I don't know what the club are hoping to get in terms of a fee but I don't think we paid much more than £5m for him so he is another we should just try to get off the wage bill and would again help out with the HG rule.

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{Ed002's Note - Kamil Grabara (G) has gone on loan to PAOK Athens. Karius is a prime example of a player who needs to go in the next two weeks.}

22 Sep 2020 13:05:32
Ed's does this mean that its likely we will have to buy some HG/ English players or just ensure that we don't have too many non? if so Its a good way of making players who have stuck around despite bids (shaQ) find a new club. Guess not that many are keen for China atm.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool like others need to move non HG players on.}

22 Sep 2020 14:14:04
Hi Eds, can you confirm our current HG quota please? We need 8 in a squad of 25. I count Joe, Trent, Milly, Hendo, Ox. That's only 5 and considering Curtis, Brewster etc. are.

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{Ed002's Note - No, that is not how it works.

22 Sep 2020 14:48:15
Jmv, it's not that a team needs a certain number of HG players. It's that they can only name so many non HG in a squad, Premier league (17) and Europe are different rules. So the problem lies with us ending up with too many non HG who can't be named in the squad or say if a club had no HG players they could only name 17 players instead of 25 (even if they had 30 non HG players)

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22 Sep 2020 14:48:24
Liverpool players classed as homegrown. Those with * are trained by the club
Keheller *
Trent *
Williams *
Gomez
Phillips
Ox
Hendo
Milner
Jones *
Brewster *
Wilson *
Elliott
If a playeris aged under 21 he does not need to be registered. We've close to 30 players in our squad and can only register 25 with 8 being home grown, 4 of which must be trained by theclub to be registered in the European squad. We certainly need to move some players on. No point me listing the squad, all fans should know that anyway.

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22 Sep 2020 15:11:47
PAOK is in Thessaloniki.

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

22 Sep 2020 15:21:16
We have 19 Non-HG players, we need to sell two else they won't be registered (Grujic and Karius I assume) . And sell more if we want to sign any more non-HG players.

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22 Sep 2020 16:17:46
Would assume Ali, Virg, Robbo, Tsimikas, Fab, Bobby, Mane, Salah, Minamino, Thiago, Jota are def going nowhere. 11
Adrian, Matip, Keita. unlikely Gini, Origi, Shaq, Karius, Grujic. Who makes way if we want to sign a cb?

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22 Sep 2020 18:10:26
Hopefully Keita. Gives us next to nothing, not good enough. Would sell him in a heartbeat to sign a top CB.

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22 Sep 2020 18:50:20
@Rs15. We wouldn't sell Keita unless we received a substantial bid. I'd suspect close to the amount that we paid for him. I wouldn't hold your breath.

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{Ed025's Note - £4.75 would be about fair.. :)

22 Sep 2020 21:36:06
Oh yeah for sure I wouldn’t let him go unless for a fee that at least gets some of what we (over) paid back, say upwards of £30m, but what I’m saying is IMO he’s just not good enough and hasn’t really done anything for us, and if the chance came up to sell him and we were to use the money for someone like Sarr, Carlos etc I’d happily sell!

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22 Sep 2020 21:09:40
Wow Ed, that's the same value as the entire Everton first team squad. Surprised you rate him so highly.

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{Ed025's Note - i might have gone over the top a bit mate.. :)

23 Sep 2020 18:09:10
@KLoppDog, I would sell Origi, Shaq and of course Karius. With them gone and the current squad, i would only include an English CB from the lower leagues who is able to give Gomez a run and still keep relatively injury free. I loved Fab against Chelsea, but prefer him in a midfield 2 besides Thiago.
I am really excited about this season.
YNWA.

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22 Sep 2020 10:12:09
Hi Ed's any truth that we still trying to sign Sarr?

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any offer and right now the effort is in sales. There has of course been interest.}

22 Sep 2020 10:49:09
I will be surprised we bought him without selling - shouldn't the priority be on selling first?

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22 Sep 2020 11:17:56
Seems a ridiculous waste of 40mil now we’ve bought Jota.

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22 Sep 2020 13:08:47
Pre preparing for the inevitable departures of Mane/ Salah makes total sense. Those 2 have a big move in them and will command big fee's, and as long as we've done our homework, the wheels of this great machine will continue turning without a hick up. That is proper team management / future proofing.
For the first time since the Barnes / Beardo days i don't mind who we sell or buy.

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22 Sep 2020 13:13:30
Or clever planning for the future? Jota 23 Sarr 22. Gives them a year or two. To integrate and take over from Firmino and Salah for argument sake. We would of course have to move on, Origi, Wilson, Brewster and Shaqiri in order to bring in Sarr aswell id imagine!

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22 Sep 2020 13:23:29
Yes, Sarr could be the eventual successor to either Mané or Salah. But he could also be the current replacement for Brewster, if all the noise about that is to be believed. Jota can be seen as the replacement for Shaqiri or Origi. I don't think there's any move for Mané or Salah this summer. But you never know. Selling before buying makes sense in these times, but I think they actually happen at the same time, with various deals partially on concurrently, until they're finalized.

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22 Sep 2020 14:45:42
It’s not shrewd when we have no money to buy another winger who will hardly play, sorry.

We also have Harvey Elliott who is a huge talent and should not be forgotten. If we have both and Jota, where exactly does Elliott figure?

If we have 40mil to spend, a forth CB makes much more sense in terms of squad depth.

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22 Sep 2020 16:14:00
Reports saying fee agreed with Watford, who knows, after Jota happened like it did. I'm not so sure spending 40 million on Sarr is a great idea at the moment but as always I'll trust in klopp.

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22 Sep 2020 17:06:27
If there is any truth to the Sarr rumours then it surely must mean either Mané or Salah’s exit this window.
The club have clearly stated the current financial constraints, and explained the legitimate reasons for them.
When you factor in the Jota purchase and the HG aspects a deal for Sarr makes no logical sense otherwise.

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22 Sep 2020 18:55:33
@Si B. It could be to just give Liverpool flexibility to sell an attacker in the future. It's so much easier to replace an outgoing player if he's already had a year to adjust to the way we play.

IF Sarr is coming in in addition to Jota, I'd expect either Salah or Mane to leave next season.

Also, let's say we've just sold Salah for £150m. Clubs would be wanting to pull our pants down over the fee for his replacement, knowing we'd just received a lot of money. If we get the replacement in a year in advance, that isn't a problem anymore.

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22 Sep 2020 19:18:42
fee/ wages etc was probably agreed but then jota was a better deal, so technically the papers are right but probably peddling old news.

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22 Sep 2020 21:30:19
I’m not saying Sarr is happening but if he did come in it wouldn’t necessarily have to mean the selling of Mane/ Salah.
We still have/ want to sell Shaq, Origi, Wilson.
The fees they raise would very likely cover the Sarr fee plus it would mean less competition for places for Sarr and Jota.

Personally speaking, I don’t see it happening.

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