Liverpool Rumours Archive July 19 2021

19 Jul 2021 19:38:20
Hi Eds,

Have Liverpool shown any interest in Lewis Bate? The kiddie from Chelsea?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Two clubs have approached Chelsea. But not Liverpool at this time.}

19 Jul 2021 23:19:14
Not that I’m a lover of social media rumours but I think he’s recently followed the whole Leeds team…. Seems fishy!

20 Jul 2021 08:56:22
Seen a few reports too apparently the kid doesn't see a path to the first team.

20 Jul 2021 10:44:18
The chance of Bate going to Liverpool is unlikely because the teenager, while full of respect for Jurgen Klopp’s side, would see such a move as leaving him in a similar position there to the one he’d face if he stayed with Chelsea.

19 Jul 2021 16:27:37
So we don't want to give hendo a contract now. If i say something on this, with regards to the american ownership, id be termed xenophobic.
This shouldn't even have been news. Hendo doesn't even need to ask for it, he deserves whatever deal he wants and am pretty sure he isn't asking for the moon and stars.

{Ed025's Note - he still has 2 years to go Akira so there is no rush, he will be at liverpool for a good while yet mate..

19 Jul 2021 17:08:58
Well maybe go read first, no one is saying we don't want to give hendo a contract, talks started awhile ago and no conclusion yet, he's still 2 years left on his current deal so there's also no rush. Nowhere has any report said we don't want to give him a contract. Not like Liverpool fans to jump the gun or have no patience now is it. holy christ.

19 Jul 2021 17:10:07
Or maybe FSG aren't the ones who decide whether or not to hand out new contracts to the players? The owners have done plenty wrong in there time here but these baseless digs feel more like you wanting to have a go at the ownership instead of any substantial criticism.

19 Jul 2021 17:14:11
Have you read the article? It's speculative fluff with loads of 'coulds' and 'possibles' in it and parallels drawn to Wijnaldum (despite the fact that Hendo already has a contract until he's 33 whilst Gini's ended when he was 30.Suggesting the club views Hendo differently) .

If you joined the #FSGout crowd on Twitter over this, I wouldn't accuse you of being xenophobic, I'd accuse you of being a twit.

Plenty of things with which to take issue with FSG without going at them over absolutely nothing.

19 Jul 2021 17:25:15
I posted about these earlier and I said I love Henderson I hope he stays as long as possible but I don’t think we should offer him a contract these summer we should see how he goes over the next 18 months. Last season Henderson was injured for 12 weeks and the season before 10 weeks and if this carries on it would be very silly of the club to give him a longer contract and tie up wage budget on a player as he enters the final part of his career and starts to miss more than he plays. The club needs to be run with a head and not a heart Bob paisley was very ruthless in that way and that’s what kept us at the top and Fergy was the same at Utd.

{Ed025's Note - i think hes important in the dressing room grino and even when he finishes i expect him to still be part of the furniture mate, he could still play on past his contract on a lower wage or even pay as you play basis, there are options i feel..

19 Jul 2021 17:27:53
It's comical how people can interpret an article like that into sold fact that is definitely happening.
Even after all the years of people acknowledging crap on Tw@tter and clickbait sites, they're still gullible enough to believe the crap they read.

19 Jul 2021 17:31:09
Loyalty is over rated. IF Hendo can carry on like Milner the sure, and if not, in two years time perhaps he can make his long awaited move to Fulham.

19 Jul 2021 17:33:17
Don't get all jumpy on this news. It's probably sensationalised to get attention. If we can keep Milner who is 35, I'm pretty sure we can keep Hendo if his demands are reasonable. So, I'm confident we'll get things sorted out in the near future.

19 Jul 2021 17:36:54
Please read the other posts (both Rumours and Banter) about this, Harry.

19 Jul 2021 19:18:43
If true, isn’t this a dream come true for you mr. sideways Henderson!

19 Jul 2021 19:20:25
I agree how important he is ed025 I hope he stays fit and in the team am just saying with his injury record there is no rush to renew his contract. Let him carry on with his contract for at least this season to check his injuries out if he stays fit most of the season then give him a new deal but if he keeps getting long injuries then some sort of pay as you play deal can be sorted out if not let him play his final year out at let him have a free transfer to get a good deal somewhere else but missing 10 and 12 weeks a season is to much if it carries on.
We could have sold Origi after the champions league victory and got a good fee for him more than what he was worth as his value had gone up after a few important goals but instead we ran the club with are heart and give him a new contract and he has hardly played his value has gone down by at least half.

19 Jul 2021 18:12:52
If Liverpool were reluctant to give Gini Wijnaldum a big new deal, and he played every single game, it’s not a huge shock that they’re in a similar boat with an often-injured Jordan Henderson.

19 Jul 2021 20:16:33
Plus Henderson is only on £140k/ w. It’ll likely be one of his last contracts and he could probs get double if not a bit more elsewhere.

19 Jul 2021 20:42:16
It’s Klopp who didn’t want to keep Gini.

19 Jul 2021 21:19:00
@fuser, Hendo would not get £300k a week somewhere else. He's got 2 years left on his contract, he's not a free transfer where clubs pay higher wages as they don't have to pay a transfer fee.

@markp, Klopp wanted to keep Gini, 100%.

19 Jul 2021 22:17:09
Sean, Klopp tried to sell Gini 2 years ago. If Klopp wanted Gini he would have stayed.

19 Jul 2021 18:11:38
If we are signing 5 of our best players to contracts leading them into age 33-34
We are hoping for more than a little luck

5 players + a 35 year old Henderson on > £10m a year contracts

Peak title winning age is 27-28.

{Ed025's Note - age is just a number spaceman, these days players, even the more experienced ones are as fit as butchers dogs mate..

20 Jul 2021 07:05:55
@seanireland, Henderson is definitely in the same bracket of player as Kante/ Saul etc and they are and have been for years on contracts of 300k. Hendo’s age is now against him slightly but you can’t say if Utd/ PSG/ Real/ etc signed him tomorrow he wouldn’t be on 200-250 at least.

21 Jul 2021 20:33:57
@fuser, you said double £140k or more in your post. Now you are dropping to a more realistic £200k which is fair enough, I could definitely see that.

@markp, in my opinion Klopp really liked Gini and wanted to keep him. I believe he understood the clubs reluctance to commit to a big wage and a long-term contract from a business sense but I think he would have preferred to have kept him. In terms of trying to sell him 2 years ago I presume that's Keita replacing him - Gini played almost every minute the season just gone and Keita was barely used when available.

19 Jul 2021 10:23:14
News coming out that fsg are stalling on a new deal for hendo because of his age.

19 Jul 2021 10:48:18
I've just asked the Eds about this. Unless you have a source from the club, the 'news' seems to be coming out of tabloids who are no doubt eager to find something to write about!

Fingers crossed that it is just 'noise' and not 'news'

19 Jul 2021 10:54:19
If I understand correctly then something like that wouldn't come from FSG? It'd come from the management team, FSG wouldn't have/ want a say on things like that.

19 Jul 2021 13:13:17
The fact that they're even talking with a decent amount of term left in his current deal is an encouraging sign that the club really wants him to stay. They just aren't going to give him the first thing he asks.

19 Jul 2021 13:17:58
It’s from an article in the Athletic written by Pearce and Ormstein.

19 Jul 2021 13:23:42
OP, it is a nothing burger of a story. Check the thread Zed opened on the Banter page. Hendo will retire a Red. Have a great summer, man. They claim Aleti and PSG are interested in him Would that be the same Atleti who just signed DePaul to replace Saul or the same PSG who just signed Gini? Exactly.

Oh one last thing, FSG do not handle anything that has to do with recruitment or player deals. They don't decide who comes in and who goes. That is the job of those who run the day to day operations at Liverpool Football Club i. e Michael Gordon, Billy Hogan, Micheal Edwards and well, you know the rest. Just thought I should point that out. Happy Summer 2021 to you.

19 Jul 2021 14:05:49
I read the Athletic article and I agree, there isn't any hard evidence pointing to an imminent departure. It's just a lot of loose dot connecting with parallels to Gini's situation. They're filling the void of the summer with a provocative story. With that said, I don't believe it's a given he's here beyond his deal. This is just how it goes when you have an aging star player.

19 Jul 2021 14:11:24
Did FSG forget to buy Hendo a cake last month and now he has the hump?

19 Jul 2021 15:08:07
It seems very much like other sources have taken the Athletic article and used it as a basis to generate clicks etc for their own sites.
The links between Hendo and PSG/ Atletico are tenuous at best. It states that Pochetino has praised Hendo in the past and that he’s still friends with Suarez. Hardly concrete links.

19 Jul 2021 22:20:45
There is no comparison between Hendo and Gini, one is a captain a leader both on and off the pitch. One was our best player when we won the title and got PFA player of the year. One got an MBE for his charity work. The other plays for PSG.