Liverpool Banter Archive June 13 2017

 

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13 Jun 2017 23:19:14
Eds, tell me how Man United can get away with 'reaching agreements' with players? James and Morata have both agreed to join them.

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{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page and I don't understand the question.}

13 Jun 2017 23:30:29
Real are looking to sell the both of them and united have probably approached the club first. I'm guessing anyway.


14 Jun 2017 02:15:03
Even if Man Utd resorted to tapping up, they would likely pay what the selling club wanted for the player so any issue would be brushed under the carpet. We on the other hand tap up players illegally, and then try to make lowball offers that will obviously p**s the selling club off (VVD saga) and hence the complaint by Saints to the FA.


14 Jun 2017 09:49:47
I believe the poster is misunderstanding the fact that clubs can talk to players if the players current club gives permission, rather than sneaking around visiting them in hotel rooms like some creepy stalker.


14 Jun 2017 18:16:18
I've stopped doing that now hjikle!


13 Jun 2017 22:51:58
What's all this talk of a ban? Pretty sure as soon as the apology came the pl said it was the end of the matter. Am I missing something?

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13 Jun 2017 22:59:11
No sky reported Southampton were happy and likely that it would be the end of the matter. It wasn't because this isn't the 1st time Liverpool has been reported and we are already banned from signing youth players in the UK. Tapping up seems to be a bit of a problem and I'm just hoping the FA don't decide to set an example of Liverpool. Cause let's face it klopp and the staff could have no complaints. And it would also be just typical of us when things seemed to be gathering momentum.


{Ed002's Note - The Premier League requested further information from Liverpool and no decision has been made whether or not an investigation will be held.}

13 Jun 2017 23:06:35
I distinctly remember sky reporting the pl saying it's the end of the matter.
Thanks for clearing up 002.


13 Jun 2017 23:07:56
Im in same boat as no one has reported anything differnet on it however it has gone way too quiet on transfers since then so something either internally or with the FA must need sorting as i doubt the club are just been this slow with all our transfer targets especially when Klopp had said most of their ground work had been done (in retrospect that was dumb of him ) so if that was the case we would have expected more deals to be confirmed by now unless something is a miss.


13 Jun 2017 23:12:17
Ed002 will LFC be putting pressure on FA to hurry up as ot is stalling their summer plans?


{Ed002's Note - No and it is not stalling anything.}

13 Jun 2017 23:22:25
Just seemed to have gone very quiet since. Is the club ploughing ahead with what they hope to get done as no real news has come about in 2 weeks since this fiasco.


13 Jun 2017 23:22:26
My concern is, can Klopp be trusted but to put his foot in it again, not just this season but in the future. We've surely used up all our chances.


13 Jun 2017 23:59:38
Sack Klopp then. that's the way forward!


14 Jun 2017 00:27:24
I think the silver lining with VvD is that the whole world knows Klopp managed to convince him ahead of Man C and Chelsea. that in itself is massive and you can imagine high quality players would have also taken note of that too. So yes, short term it's not great, but medium -long term, who knows.


13 Jun 2017 22:15:23
All is good.
No ban.
Mbappe salah vvd an Eric dier too sign on 1st day of window being open.
Trying to swap Moreno+cash for Bertrand
Heard it here 1st.

And then I woke up.

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13 Jun 2017 22:59:51
Don't do that to me again 😣.


14 Jun 2017 06:57:30
Eric Dier? i would be aiming higher than that in a dream.


14 Jun 2017 10:34:13
It was a normal dream not a wet dream.


14 Jun 2017 21:59:56
Higher than Dier?
That would be poetic justice :-)


14 Jun 2017 10:41:46
Eric Dier was crap the other night against France. Both Pogba and Kante owned him and Ox all evening.


13 Jun 2017 22:07:40
Hey guys, seeing reports that Salah is as good as done and he'll be with us next season. Any truth in this eds?

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{Ed002's Note - There is no measure of "as good as done".}

14 Jun 2017 08:41:13
This is a binary situation
Done
Not done

I have yet to see an announcement from Liverpool or Roma, therefore not done.


14 Jun 2017 09:06:51
Do Roma know?


14 Jun 2017 13:12:12
LFC hopeful asking the real questions.


13 Jun 2017 22:02:55
I reckon Gareth Southgate is really Roy Hodgson with Botox and a beard!

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14 Jun 2017 08:43:18
He's an improvement over Hodgson, working with limited resources in terms of quality in depth. Just look at who wasn't playing for France.
Glad no L'pool players were injured!


13 Jun 2017 21:25:23
i don't understand why so big push for salah there is the option that LFC are even more crippled let's say he does goood same as mane did no one is asking themselfs in LFC whant on the next african cup we get bout wide options unavaliable? ain't kinda lil bad option altho he is great player?

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13 Jun 2017 22:41:47
What?


13 Jun 2017 22:53:15
People go on like the AFCON is every month, it happens every two years it shouldn't and I imagine doesn't come into when signing a player.

Players get injured look at ings, hasn't played in two years.


13 Jun 2017 22:54:05
If you say so.


13 Jun 2017 22:57:18
By the time the next afcon comes along I'm sure we will have strengthened further and have plenty cover.


13 Jun 2017 23:09:37
How is this being discussed again. The Afcon is every 2 years, not for 2 years, for max a month, if both players reach the finalast that is. It's football we could have 2 complete different wingers by then. If we are hoping some of the young lads like ojo and Woodburn are around the team this year. surely they will be about in 2 years. and many other reason why why shouldn't care about haven't quality players sign for us.


13 Jun 2017 23:13:27
The game = Borat.

I'm sure about this.


13 Jun 2017 23:55:24
Funniest post ever by the game.


14 Jun 2017 13:14:37
People complain about the signing of Salah because of afcon (which is a legitimate arguement but not a strong one) yet they wouldn't complain about the signing of keita even though he has afcon as well lol.


13 Jun 2017 19:45:29
So Roma need the cash from Liverpool for Salah to get out of their financial predicament.

I just wonder who is going to bite the bullet. Roma or LFC?

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13 Jun 2017 20:01:23
For me it will be Roma.


13 Jun 2017 20:25:40
The major issue with the Salah deal is the up front payment Roma are requesting.

I think it is going to come down to whether Liverpool are willing to pay up or not unfortunately.


13 Jun 2017 22:14:01
they need 30 million.


13 Jun 2017 23:38:06
Are Roma not also owned by FSG? If so why can't this deal be sorted easier?


{Ed002's Note - No.}

13 Jun 2017 19:34:12
Ed002 whilst we wait for transfer news along with the upcoming fixture list please let me know whether you enjoy Californian wines as much as French wines.

Also have you stayed in Yorkshire Dales or the Cotswolds and if so do you think they compare to being in Napa Valley or South of France?

Happy travels.

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{Ed002's Note - I libed in Monaco for many years and have had the odd glass of French wine. I am partial to the Lohr Wildflow and the Robert Hall Merlot.}

13 Jun 2017 19:40:23
I am not a wine drinker but wine from the Cape in South Africa is the best Ed002 :-)


13 Jun 2017 19:48:50
Blimey eds, you have got about a bit. Is there anywhere you haven't been lol.


{Ed002's Note - I was banned from South Africa from many years and, for reasons I don't want to go into, I am not allowed in to most of the Middle east and much of Africa.}

13 Jun 2017 19:58:58
Ed002, did you run naked up and down the street in South Africa?

The cops are usually non existent here anyway.


13 Jun 2017 20:34:25
Come on eds, spill the beans ed. Why Where you banned. You weren't Tapping up players for lfc were you 😂.


13 Jun 2017 21:27:04
I always thought the eds were lizard people who live underground with Pete price especially 02. No human has that depth of knowledge.


13 Jun 2017 21:58:04
I am banned from my local Anne Summers for reasons I don't want to go in to.


13 Jun 2017 22:52:19
Trying before you buy is frowned upon I would guess 2mo?


13 Jun 2017 19:07:43
Can we say that LFC have started balancing the books by selling players (Wisdom)? I hope that, unlike last season, we will spend much more that we make from the sale of players. Mind you, the sale of Wisdom will allow us to pay Roma the extra £2 million they are asking for.

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13 Jun 2017 19:25:45
Ha ha, balancing the books by selling Wisdom?

The fee we get for Wisdom will have absolutely no relevance to paying Roma what they require for Salah or balancing the books.

Liverpool value Wisdom at a certain price and that is it. Derby will not be paying the fee they agree in one amount anyway.


13 Jun 2017 20:11:20
If only I could make money by selling wisdom.


13 Jun 2017 20:25:00
VGRed, haha you'd be bankrupt and homeless.


13 Jun 2017 11:29:49
Ed002, if possible could you explain the reasons why Salah wasn't successful at chelsea?
Thank you.

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{Ed002's Note - Because he didn't settle.}

13 Jun 2017 20:17:22
Salah seems like a very humble, focused and balanced individual. After some research I reckon he would be a a extremely valuable signing for Liverpool.

If we do not manage to sign Salah then it will show the utter ineptness of Liverpool in the transfer market.


13 Jun 2017 21:13:22
Ed002- was the reason he didn't settle due to the country or other factors? Bit of a worry spending quite a bit on a player who can't settle in England.


{Ed002's Note - It is of no concequence.}

13 Jun 2017 22:58:00
Is he physically ready for the weekly demands of the Prem? Serie A is a lot slower pace, with a very uneven playing field. The EPL is one of the only leagues where anyone can beat anyone regularly with the 'lesser' sides able to field 11 internationals.


13 Jun 2017 18:22:06
I understand LFC would not pay the fee for Salah straight away. But if the ban comes after LFC agrees a fee with Roma, would not they be bound to pay it any way.

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13 Jun 2017 18:56:24
If a ban comes, it remains to be seen from when it would be enforced.


13 Jun 2017 18:12:40
As the search for a left back continues, have we shown any interest in Kieran Tierney?

He would be quite hard to pry away from Celtic but he is, I think, the best left back we could realistically get!

Cheers!

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13 Jun 2017 19:59:47
Any chance of us going back for Chilwell this summer?


13 Jun 2017 21:28:13
Tymon now init.


13 Jun 2017 22:58:30
Mendy!


13 Jun 2017 16:33:41
Eds how long should we AV to wait to find out what is happening with us and the FA over the whole tapping up business.

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{Ed025's Note - who knows greys?, it will depend on the FA and any investigations that are made and if complaints are alleged by other clubs mate, there are too many factors to consider to put a time on it..

13 Jun 2017 18:12:01
But are we allowed to sign anyone while we are waiting on the FA.


13 Jun 2017 16:07:59
Just a question for one of the Eds. If LFC pay Roma the fee for Salah and the club get a transfer ban, will they have their money back?

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{Ed001's Note - the fee would not be paid immediately anyway, so there would be no money to be returned.}

13 Jun 2017 17:06:00
Even if Liverpool are issued with a transfer ban which for me is extremely unlikely, then I can't possibly see it being enforced for this summer transfer window.


13 Jun 2017 15:07:43
Come on LFC supporters. The only thing delaying the signing of Salah is the fact that those in negotiation with Roma are enjoying their stay in Rome. They want to prolong it as much as they can.

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13 Jun 2017 14:00:36
Any truth in the rumours that Barcelona representatives have met with liverpool this week to discuss coutinho.

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13 Jun 2017 17:45:26
These discussions have taken place at least once in London as per Ed02.


13 Jun 2017 20:52:23
What about Barcelona new manager saying his priority was more def midfielder than someone like coutinho, can't see Barcelona going after both.


13 Jun 2017 13:07:53
what is the latest news on mane's injury.

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13 Jun 2017 12:50:47
What are the chances of Liverpool swooping in and getting Sanchez? Apparently he is keen on City now and I just think its hypocritical of him if he were to go there considering he turned us down after Suarez left because he preferred London!

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13 Jun 2017 13:03:05
He isn't with the same woman he was when he moved to Arsenal.


13 Jun 2017 13:49:10
Zero for the wage demand touted, £350k p/ w.


13 Jun 2017 14:11:44
It has looked like city had him in the bag ages ago but have managed to keep it tight lipped unlike some clubs.


13 Jun 2017 12:25:09
Ed's, if the transfer ban were to go through, would anyone at the club be sacked for this debacle? Surely it would change the way we handle our transfers at the very least, but does that come with someone else overseeing the process?

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{Ed001's Note - no idea mate.}

13 Jun 2017 14:15:36
The recruitment dept at the club is long overdue a major overhaul there has been a culture of shodiness since the day parry walked thru the door and it still continues today. a clear out is what's needed.


13 Jun 2017 18:37:41
It was Klopp, you suggesting we should sack Klopp?


13 Jun 2017 11:42:29
Eds. If Liverpool were to get a transfer ban does that include signing unregistered players? I'm approaching 50 but have never given up on the dream!

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{Ed001's Note - sorry mate yes.}

13 Jun 2017 13:21:31
Eds, are we at this time stopped from signing any players? If not but we do get a ban, what would happen to any player we signed before we were notified of such ban.


{Ed001's Note - the deal would be called off if we set up a deal and then got a ban.}

13 Jun 2017 11:14:52
This feels like waiting for exam results 😬.

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13 Jun 2017 11:49:03
Not that you would know lol only kidding mucker.


13 Jun 2017 12:17:31
Having experienced that recently, I can certify that this is 10 times worse 😂.


13 Jun 2017 12:53:16
Wait for your bird to take a pregnancy test when your house is already chocker with kids, and that's a wait chaps.


13 Jun 2017 17:55:17
Amen 🙏.


13 Jun 2017 11:08:20
We have a few surprise targets so far this window already

Is the any chance/ interest in signing veratti from psg? he wants to leave and seems like he could be a good fit into our midfield if Kieta is no longer an option.

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{Ed001's Note - no.}

13 Jun 2017 12:37:36
£70m for Van Dijk, £100m for Mbappe, £88m for Veratti, £60m for Lacazette, £40m for Salah, £50m for Mendy and £30m for Pereira.

Job done, all at a net spend of £0 when we sell Sakho, Moreno and Lucas for £100m each. Right Eds?


13 Jun 2017 16:29:29
We will win everything in our path next season!


13 Jun 2017 10:39:29
The blues are busy 30million for pickford. Wish we could agree decent fee str8 away for players and be legit to.

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{Ed001's Note - legit? There is a reason I put up on one of the sites a couple of months ago that Pickford was off to the Toffees and it was because it had already been agreed then. The difference is they didn't rub the tapping up arrogantly in the face of all.}

13 Jun 2017 10:57:57
Sorry ed. I didn't know that. Apologies. Any news on the red men with transfers.


{Ed001's Note - no worries and no nothing new.}

13 Jun 2017 11:19:27
Sorry Ed are you suggesting that there was tapping up of Pickford, but that it was done in a much more subtle way than our blatant breaking of the rules?

Cheers in advance.


{Ed001's Note - I am saying that they paid what Sunderland wanted after doing so and didnt create a media frenzy discussing their deal which had been agreed in advance.}

13 Jun 2017 14:09:03
I would have loved him to come to us, he's got a great career ahead of him.


 
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