Liverpool Banter Archive July 07 2016

07 Jul 2016 20:16:58
I like Ojo a lot, but if there is one thing we've learnt from Ibe, it is that not all perform under pressure. His development should be properly managed and he should be accessed before being thrown into the deep end. A new left winger is needed one who will soak up the pressure off Ojo.

07 Jul 2016 21:54:31
That Mane looks good, maybe we should sign him.

07 Jul 2016 21:59:06
We have mane, coutinho, firmino and lallana ahead of ojo, we also have no European football. If we sign another winger he will get no chance at all.
Yes some players don't produce under pressure but there is only one way to find out.
Ojo needs to get a chance this season but he needs to be introduced carefully.

07 Jul 2016 22:38:05
That is why we keep Markovic. Give Lazar that role to fill with the pressure he needs to overcome in order for him to break free from his demons and perform to the ability of his talent.

And Ojo will have to fight for a place to get on the bench. Which will mean that he will be fully focused in training, improving and catching the managers eye, not regressing into a bad egg.

07 Jul 2016 23:16:27
Firstly ojo is ahead of lallana for me.

07 Jul 2016 23:25:09
Demons!?!?! Bahahaha.

08 Jul 2016 09:15:27
I think markovic will be sold, he just has not progressed and he needs regular football.

08 Jul 2016 10:03:25
Ojo ahead of Lallana? I won't go as far as to say that but in all honesty, it is getting there. Lallana needs to work on scoring more often. Effort without results.

07 Jul 2016 18:40:25
Hi there eds,

Just a quick one, if the Coric rumours are true do you believe the club lined him up as a replacement for Ibe?

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know a lot about him, just that he is extremely highly rated. In fact I was told he was the best at his age from Croatia ever. Not sure if that is correct or not, as I have not seen him play, but that is what a couple of scouts and coaches from the area have said to me.}

07 Jul 2016 20:04:36
Do we hold any interest in the lad, or is it just utter nonsence? I feel like we keep the number 8 shirt in stock for someone special.

07 Jul 2016 20:46:04
Ed002 doesn't know of any interest so that to me means there is nothing happening yet.

07 Jul 2016 18:40:33
Ed. on a previous post you said about asking for a buy back clause would lower the asking price.
Got me thinking, is it common in football transfers that a club will ask for a sell on fee in the deal? If memory serves me right, didn't we pick up some extra cash from the Shelvey sale to Newcastle?

{Ed002's Note - Sell on fee from lower league clubs is very common, less so the more high profile the player. On the continent, very common.}

07 Jul 2016 18:27:14
So Ibe looks to be going, which is a shame but the kid was a fringe player at best so allow him to move on and see if he can reach his potential.

Players come and go, and with a bloated squad there was always going to be players leaving that we could easily make an argument to stay (think Lucas and Allen will also be included in this group) I wish him well and think it's the right move for him to get the regular football he craves.

I want to try and steer clear of figures but short term with what we have spent I think it was a great deal for the club.

07 Jul 2016 21:02:28
Agree apart from Lucas. Only him and Stewart out and out DMs. Stewart is still too inexperienced to be thrown in at deep end in big games where we are under pressure and need someone to just sit in there. Plus his reading of the game and heading at CB was majestic at times last season.

07 Jul 2016 22:04:00
I don't want Lucas to go, I just feel that he could be one of the players sacrificed in the squad unfortunately.

08 Jul 2016 09:37:29
I don't want Lucas to go, but we need a stronger DM, one who is faster and equally as experienced/ intelligent. I am taking nothing away from Lucas but age is not on his side to play in the first eleven. Leicester's Kante is one who comes readily to mind.

07 Jul 2016 18:00:34
Is it sakhos tribunal today? When are we expecting an outcome.

{Ed002's Note - Yes - and when they publish it.}

07 Jul 2016 22:39:23
Not expecting an outcome this week apparently.

07 Jul 2016 17:27:19
for all those that like talking finances, there is a very in depth article on thisisanfield concerning club valuation. might give the eds a break from questions on said topic for a least a day.

07 Jul 2016 16:18:40
Ed. haven't posted for a while but it ses to me all LFC are doing apart from a few buys that don't frighten any rivals is now selling players who were deemed to have potential like Ibe. If Coutinho is next, don't you see this as undermining FSG policy to buy young players with potential in the first place. Do you have any idea what is going on at Liverpool? Thanks Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Players are transient - they come and go.}

07 Jul 2016 17:18:25
Potential? Ibe? He's never been anything special and I think him and Bournemouth are a good match.
£15m is a good deal and I wish him well.

07 Jul 2016 17:27:32
I thought we signed players to improve our first team and squad rather than just to frighten rivals.

07 Jul 2016 17:31:11
I understand the sentiment but there's no reason to keep player unless he's going to get some game time. Sitting on the bench is no good to anyone especially to a young player.

If a player from the academy who is 20-21 and is not playing enough games, then the manager should move him on, if not then the player should plan his future somewhere else.

Just to keep Ibe fans happy, maybe Liverpool should just take the drastic measure of benching or selling Origi, Sturrige, Mane, Millner, Lallana, Ojo, Firmino and others.

Ibe is just not the type of player to excel in the current manager's play style, but he will excel in diffrent setup.

Good luck to him.

07 Jul 2016 15:42:26
I didn't see that offer or figure coming in for Ibe ed today mate. Has it been on the cards for a while or was it unexpected? I didn't no they had interest.

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

07 Jul 2016 15:58:18
A month or two ago, ed said that Bournemouth, Southampton and Watford all had an interest in Ibe.

07 Jul 2016 14:25:03
Is everyone as surprised as I am at the prices we are recovering and the ability to sell players?

Skrtel for £5.5m
Ibe for £15m

A £31.5m bid on Benteke

A club interested in Bogdan, Allen, Wisdom even Balotelli.

I'm used to seeing us buy Carroll for £35m and selling him 18mths later for £15m or never finding a buyer for the likes of Enrique and finally only offloading at end of contract.

I never expected to recoup around £80m in sales in one window from players which are seen as not good enough and won't impact our squad or first 11. Feels very different to me this window.

07 Jul 2016 14:37:20
These fees show how football has totally lost touch with reality 😄.

07 Jul 2016 14:50:34
Its about time we started getting "decent" fees for mediocre players.

07 Jul 2016 15:09:39
not really no. Benteke for one is not a bad player! Just because it hasn't worked out for him at Liverpool he still scored some quality goals and people know what he is capable of in the premiership. He would be quality in a team like West ham etc. and it would show such a statement of intent from them. 5.5 mil isn't all that much in todays market for an international defender. albeit one we know isn't up to it in england, he would be a top player in most other leagues.
Allen is a decent midfielder and ibe could be very good player (some day, 15m? one word: English) I'm not so sure who wants Balo though, not for any sort of money that is anyway.

07 Jul 2016 15:21:42
Fairn call kopdogs and 15 mil for Ibe a a Great English prospect - similar level and age to sterling sold at over 3 times that amount . crazy market but match those 2 up and is sterling that much better!? Never mind w'll take it!

07 Jul 2016 16:28:21
The players we are selling were mediocre under Rodgers but have stepped up a level under klopp . Hence people now know they are good if directed properly! That's why the price rise.

07 Jul 2016 16:37:27
I think it's fair to say that prices are massively inflated to the point where 15 million now is the equivalent of significantly less a year or two ago. Not so long ago I would have expected Mane to cost £15m and Ibe £5m.

07 Jul 2016 16:49:00
Benteke scored a goal every 168 mins on average for LFC, that's more than 1 in 2. He's a very good player. Shame it didn't work out.

07 Jul 2016 19:53:26
He`s a good player with all the tools necessary to be great but his attitude and unwillingness to work hard and do the graft is why he`s leaving and why Origi who wasn`t even supposed to be anything this year, got ahead of him in the pecking order at LFC and in Belgium. Why? He`s everything Benteke is not as in, hardworking, determined and willing to run through a brick wall for the team to score. And he`s not that much more talented than origin either so whatever Origi lacks, he more than makes up for by his attitude, desire and zeal to be great.

07 Jul 2016 13:36:14
I know that we shouldn't get too caught up in the finances of the deal but is anyone else a little miffed at the low fee for Ibe? He is only 20 years old and English for heavens sake! Think of the recent fees for some English players recently!

I really hope this transfer doesn't come back to bite us in the ass. Players don't always develop linearly and I feel a good loan move or maybe even another season as a impact-sub player for us and we could have seen him develop leaps and bounds.

Klopp clearly doesn't rate him and so a sale would make sense from his perspective. Not sure I agree with him on this one though. Would love to hear all your thoughts.

Red Sandman.

07 Jul 2016 13:42:16
Red sandman
The fee seems about right to me especially on his form and inconsistencies last season. I hope howe transforms him.

07 Jul 2016 13:52:50
Low fee?!

I've been laughing all morning saying it's too high! What has he done to warrant a fee of 15 let alone the higher figure you want?!

The only reasons I can think of are 1) He's young - therefore people assume he'll turn into a world beater with time when more often than not they don't really progress much further

2) He's English. If ibe was Irish you'd be laughing your head off at how average he is and 15 is a bargain

3) this TV deal has thrown the market into chaos. See the bids for benteke and Tomkins as reference points.

07 Jul 2016 14:01:32
£15m for a guy who has played less than 2000 minutes of Premier League football and only has 1 league goal seems quite good to me!

I think Ibe has the potential to be a good player for Bournemouth though. That £15m is a gamble that he becomes something he currently isn't.

It really does show how mad modern football is though. A week ago people were saying that Mane was only worth £8-10m despite being the top scorer in the team that came 6th. Now people are moaning that we're only getting £15m for an academy player on the fringe of our 8th placed squad.

There really is a ridiculous amount of money being thrown around this summer. I predict that the world record transfer fee will be broken and then re-broken before the summer is out.

07 Jul 2016 14:06:15
Ibe was trying too hard last season. The fact that he spent the Summer before doing extra work with the King shows at least he wanted to succeed. Sometimes it doesn't happen for a player for numerous reasons, maybe he just isn't at that level although i think he could be personally. I would love him to move on for a good fee, get settled and maybe in the future show what a good player is really is. Sometimes moving on from on from the weight around your neck that is Lfc is a good thing. I hope it is for Ibe.

07 Jul 2016 14:13:09
Irishkopite, £15 million these days does not buy you a world beater. I think you are rather harsh on your assessment on Ibe.

07 Jul 2016 14:20:15
I thought it was a good price.

07 Jul 2016 14:51:17
MK Scouser.

My point I'm trying to make is something along the lines of is the loss of Ibe worth £15m to us?

Yes he doesn't have a great deal of experience in terms of minutes played. But this is a young kid, with tremendous potential (don't forget a lot of people at the club rated him as better than Sterling) who has shown the required attitude to succeed. Do you think £15m would be enough for us to go out to the market as it is (with crazy high prices) and find a 20 year old English winger who has shown he has the right attitude and hunger? To me it seems like that would be worth a bit more but that's just my opinion.

Like I said before, Klopp clearly doesn't rate him so I guess it can be argued that £15 m for a player with no future at the club is amazing. I just can't help feeling a little bit miffed especially if Ibe goes on to fulfill his potential.

Red Sandman.

07 Jul 2016 15:47:14
Player fees have been crazy for a while but I think £15m is a stupid amount of money for Ibe - I'll take it though.

I'm not knocking him, he's quite clearly a talented young player but I'd love someone to point out exactly what he's done to have a club value him so highly?

I think Bournemouth might regret this if they start struggling in the league next season.

07 Jul 2016 17:02:25
Brilliant business from the club point of view. We made a habit of paying over the odds and it's a nice gesture in return. He scored 1 in 41 games in his career and is now where near a first team player. I would take that money and run. Don't understand what's the sentiments flowing down the page. If he was anywhere good enough, Tye manage would have kept him. End off.

07 Jul 2016 17:44:58
The sentiment is that he played in the Liverpool red shirt. He tried, he done his best and he didn't act like a knob. Therefore he should be treated with a bit of common decency and respect. Not something i'm expecting you to understand Harry.

07 Jul 2016 19:56:50
Spot on, Irish Rover!

07 Jul 2016 13:08:58
What about a buy back clause? Seems to be the fashion these days? Wishing the lad well tho.

07 Jul 2016 13:30:15
What is this new found obsession with buy back clauses?

07 Jul 2016 13:32:29
Ed002 has suggested that inserting a buy back clause usually goes hand in hand with having the transfer fee drastically reduced. I'd say that makes it a waste of time. The money you save with the fixed buy back amount, was lost off the initial sale fee anyway!

Unless of course the player in question develops into an £80m player! Will Ibe do that? I'm not so sure.

Buy back clauses should be banned anyway in my opinion. Look at the Morata thing this summer. Madrid have bought him back purely to sell him for a profit. They are abused by most clubs. Only deal I've seen it used in that wasn't just abusing the system was Jordi Alba.

07 Jul 2016 17:12:06
A total waste of time.

07 Jul 2016 12:47:49
I think this sale of Ibe highlights the shortermism of football at the moment. Obviously I can't say for sure why Ibe is going, the really good bid, Klopp doesn't rate him. But I feel like it was only last season he didn't show a good account for himself. Players like Brady show you can develop late, and I feel like young players develop better if they don't have to think 'if I have one bad season I'm finished. ' Another loan would've been good. Hopefully we put a buy back clause on him, (eds know if we have? ) Anyway our squad does need trimming and maybe he just wasn't up to the grade. We need to sell players just always sad to see the younger ones go!

07 Jul 2016 13:28:06
there are many reasons Liverpool have accepted a bid. probably number 1 being it is 15 million for a player who has shown little to nothing yet. If i'm correct he has scored 1 premiership goal in a pointless last game of the season. He never looked comfortable last year and didn;t give Klopp any headaches in choosing others ahead of him. We have signed Mane and Ojo has surpassed him so the lad more than likely correctly seen he is not going to be in Klopps thoughts to much this year. Bournemouth are a decent side and it is a good move for Ibe at this time. Hopefully for him he will develop and Brady? he has always had talent, late in his career? He is only 24.

07 Jul 2016 13:45:07
I think it's just a case of him not being as highly rated as the other young wingers we have. Sheyi Ojo and Bobby Adekanye are probably the best young wingers at the club. Ryan Kent and Harry Wilson are good prospects but seemingly not quite as talented. And Jordan Ibe and Sergi Canos see clearly not regarded highly enough to keep at the club. It remains to be seen what happens with Markovic.

It's the same with the versatile attacking midfielders. Cameron Brannagan and Marko Grujic look like they are the most highly rated, with Joao Carlos Teixeira and Luis Alberto surplus to requirements.

And with centre backs it looks like Gomez is the favourite, with Ilori biting the bullet.

The point is, you can't just hoard young players. Klopp is cherry picking those he rates the highest and not standing in the way of those whom he doesn't want. Rodgers ruined many careers with his stockpiling and it is nice to see a change at the club with regards to how little we valued the careers of our employee's.

07 Jul 2016 11:39:35
Eds,

Just wondering if you could provide a brief summary of known Liverpool transfer interests atm?

Which positions are we still looking to buy for? Any sales of key players you still expect to happen?

Also any update on the sale of the club that macca mentioned a while back?

Just thought I'd ask for a consolidated view!
No worries if this is too much of a big ask - I enjoy reading the posts and appreciate greatly your wisdom and knowledge on these issues! Cheers again and hope you're having good summers!

{Ed002's Note - There are no more lists.}

07 Jul 2016 12:45:41
Ed002 giveth, and Ed002 taketh away.

07 Jul 2016 10:28:30
Morning everyone. Read that coutihno has signed with a new agent kia joorabchian just wondered was that all ready his agent, just a jurno trying to do a lazy story. Or has he changed. All states the reason is that he wants a move away. Sorry to stir up the whole will he be leaving debate again ed's. Just wanted to know if there is in truth in it.

07 Jul 2016 10:51:14
The agent stuff is all sensationalist media BS.

However, Coutinho is known to want to leave. He informed international team mates and LFC That he wanted to move for CL football. People seem to think That just because it's gone quiet lately that he must have changed his mind, but sadly I still believe he will leave. Barcelona are open to selling a lot of players this season. Not least Messi, Suarez and Turan. They have very clearly scouted Coutinho, and Couts is also very good mates with Neymar who wants him to move to Barca. PSG are also very interested and they have cash to burn.

It'll probably happen late in the window, but in my opinion Coutinho will leave.

If Coutinho was planning on staying, he would've told Dani Alves to stop running his mouth this summer to the media. Instead he let Alves do a great impression of a football agent and drum up interest.

Coutinho personally is at least being respectful about the way he is trying to get a move though, and after what he has done for us, he deserves to leave with our respect.

It would also explain why Klopp has refused to let Brannagan leave even on loan. He may be seen as the replacement. Not necessarily on the left, but in terms of a creative midfield option.

Grujic also got his work permit based on the fact he will be a first team regular.

Firmino can play in attacking midfield despite Klopp using him as a striker, and Lallana and Milner aren't guaranteed to be leaving yet either.

Don't forget Mane either. I know it's been a whole week and he hasn't scored yet, but he can actually play on the left.

Just don't panic people ;) Klopp will work something out!

07 Jul 2016 11:02:07
Coutinho plays on the left and if he does leave let's get a class wide player instead of another ACM and shorn him to wide role. I would try everything to convince him to stay. Got a feeling he would have a blinder coming season.

07 Jul 2016 11:13:40
So, Countinho plus cash for Suarez?

07 Jul 2016 12:25:12
Many thanks MK nice detailed easy to understand answer.

07 Jul 2016 13:21:46
No worries mate. Thank Ed002. He was where I got all the info from :)

07 Jul 2016 13:35:45
Great post, MK. I would do all I can to keep him for at least another season tho as this season will be wide open for the PL title and top 4 spots.

07 Jul 2016 02:01:37
Yo ed001

Apparently a number of Klopp's ex-BVB players, such as Mkhitaryan, found Klopp's style of play 'creatively stifling'. What do you think of that? It's kinda BS when you consider that they more often than not scored around 80 goals per season.

{Ed001's Note - some did not like the fact that he expected them to work hard. Nothing to worry about.}

07 Jul 2016 10:30:30
Think Arda Turan leaving Atletico to warm Barca's bench because he didn't fancy the running that Simeone enforces in his players, calling it creatively stifling is an easy way of justifying it as it shifts the blame and the fans know no better.

07 Jul 2016 10:39:22
My attitude is "Tango Sierra"

07 Jul 2016 11:10:40
I thought it was the Focus ST that set the trend for orange Fords. Clearly I was wrong. Thanks for enlightening me, Ron :)

07 Jul 2016 11:31:43
November Papa

Zeddicus 😉.

07 Jul 2016 12:03:03
Creativity stiflingly, Is that why he signed up for 4 years with mourinho?

He's just looking for something to blame his poor form under klopp on.

{Ed002's Note - Rubbish - this is an old statement and he was one of a number of players that Klopp pissed off with his training methods.}

07 Jul 2016 12:21:28
These guys are on ridiculous money and they moaning about training? like to see them graft a 50 hour week to just get buy in life I will happily run my socks off all morning for a tenth of what these guys earn.

{Ed002's Note - They are not moaning about having to train they are moaning about Klopp's training methods stiffling the creativity of players, Klopp's inability to see the need to change his approach and the damage it did to results.}

07 Jul 2016 12:29:35
i'd go with foxtrot oscar Ron!

07 Jul 2016 12:44:38
But some football players aren't the brightest, ed002. The football methods cannot just suddenly stifle creativity when for the previous seven seasons it didn't seem to do that. Gegenpressing was all about winning the ball higher up the pitch to create chances. I agree with ed001 on this - I never used to really watch dortmund, ed001 did, and I'll take his word that gegenpressing was actually abandoned throughout that massive form slump.

Anyway, doesn't matter who the manager is, their methods will always piss of somebody.

{Ed002's Note - Sorry, he is not the only player to have said this and it is evidenced by the drop in form of Dortmund and Klopp not having won anything for years.}

07 Jul 2016 12:48:38
The old headless chicken style of play lads 😉.

07 Jul 2016 12:59:35
Ed02, how would you suggest Klopp change/ modify his gameplay?

Last season, according to me was not a complete Gung-Ho approach. we were more compact then under Rogers and the pressing was not over the top. The passing was better too.
Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained before he needs to have the ability to change and I have explained before that his tactics in training do not suit many players. There is no need to go over this again.}

07 Jul 2016 13:22:15
You're right Ed, the results did get worse. It maybe worth noting the injuries sustained to the first team during that first half of the season, not to mention the recovery in the second half of the season which ended in them reaching the DFB Pokal final and achieving Europa League qualification.

07 Jul 2016 13:43:15
Ed02, based on Ed01`s view, Klopp has already changed or adapted his style towards the end of last season and I could see a bit of change at that time. As for players complaining about training methods, I would take that with a pinch of salt as players of today are known to be lazy. Poch, Simeone, Sampaoli (all disciples of Bielsa ) run their players ragged in training as well and some can cope while others can`t. I don`t hear players at Athleti or Spurs complaining about it. That doesn`t mean the coach`s methods don`t work clearly it worked for Klopp who defied all odds to beat Bayern to titles and Cups on occasion and terrorized the whole of Europe for two seasons in the CL. My thing is, some players can handle it while ohers can`t. the players talking are those who couldn`t and thos who could and who thrived under it, are not. Just my take.

{Ed002's Note - Excellent idea, distract, blame the players and bring other clubs in to it. It is as I have explained - players don't like it. It doesn't bring success - as evidenced at Dortmund. And of course it didn't work at Liverpool. You will notice that the players Liverpool are interested in are young and can run quickly.}

07 Jul 2016 14:32:27
It won them two straight Bundesligas and strong UCL campaigns. How can you say it didn't bring them success? Klopp only stopped winnings things once Bayern assembled arguably the world's best team with the most recently successful manager in the world.

{Ed002's Note - It was years ago - Klopp hasn't won in recent years - it was found out. It has all been covered before.}

07 Jul 2016 14:41:04
And I think redohio's point is valid. It's not distraction, it's just a comparison to highlight that Klopp's methods are really not stifling, as similar methods have worked at other teams. If you were to conduct an empirical analysis of whether Klopp's kind of methods work, you'd also look at the success experienced by other teams that use the same kind of methods.

Klopp didn't even use it to a great extent at Liverpool. To suggest that he did is just revisionism IMO.

{Ed002's Note - No, it is the standard Liverpool way to distract and bring others in to it. You simply don't get it so give up.}

07 Jul 2016 14:51:45
I'll agree to disagree.

07 Jul 2016 17:47:53
Ed02, I made a valid point that cuts to both you argument and mine, IMO. I never said you were wrong neither did I say I was right. All I did was try to place a balanced point of view as to why certain players thrive under a system and others moan about it saying it didn`t help them but stifled them. My goal was not to blame anyone even tho, we know players blame just like managers, like to blame others for their issues. I brought other clubs and managers into it as examples to make my point. If you think I was deflecting then you missed the whole point of my post.

07 Jul 2016 19:41:58
...abuse removed.............

{Ed002's Note - Fuckwit removed.}

07 Jul 2016 09:04:19
Morning Eds
Ibe to Bournemouth £15 million a bit of a rough diamond who needs regular playing time don't think he'll get too much of that at anfield this year

07 Jul 2016 10:41:46
He is nothing like a rough diamond. A very average player who was hyped to replace Sterling.

07 Jul 2016 08:44:13
Well I didn't rate Moreno before. But I've just seen a pick of him on training. He's come back from his hols with a top knot!

It should be instant dismissal!

07 Jul 2016 09:28:45
Couldn't agree more and worst of all he appears to be dragging Firmino down with him!

07 Jul 2016 09:42:08
Number 1 son has one I keep threatening to chop the hooter off 😂.

07 Jul 2016 08:07:56
I think people are rather pessimistically reading too much into this rumoured extension deal for Klopp.

He has proven in the past he is a world class coach, and in his first 8 months we got to two finals.

He only had 2 years left on his contract with us and with all the big hitters coming to England it is leaving a major shortage of top managers in the rest of Europe.

With Wenger, Mourinho, Guardiola, Klopp and Conte all here now there is only really Ancelotti and Simeone left on the continent who are well known, and proven world class club coaches.

With us not being challengers right now, I think the club has swept in with a safety net incase we just miss out on our goals next season. Otherwise Klopp would have a year left on his contract at that stage and a whole host of top European clubs would be in for him. Pro-active is better than re-active!

07 Jul 2016 07:52:58
Is Chilwell still injured?

07 Jul 2016 06:01:27
A lot of cloak n dagger with the klopp new deal . Good p. r . When the fume from signings or lack of real decent ready names ( ready made not necessarily 50 mil pound "names ") the kloppster becomes the "most important " business of the summer.

07 Jul 2016 07:06:15
The manager is always the most important signing.

07 Jul 2016 07:41:42
At least someone has their head screwed on on here. This is exactly what it is.

07 Jul 2016 09:06:01
I'd definately say at least mane and matip are ready made, grujic is not, karius maybe. Will people ever stop moaning about signings? Just trust the man for gods sake.

{Ed002's Note - Gujic will be playing regularly because that is what he was promised by Klopp and if he isn't then he loses his work permit. Cannot be loaned out either.}

06 Jul 2016 23:49:09
Hi Ed002, if you are around, I remember you saying a while back that Australia was robbed of the World Cup. I was wondering if you could extrapolate on the reasons why?
Speaking as an Australian the World Cup in Australia would have been amazing, we know how to have fun and can host decent tournaments (Sydney 2000) but most of all it would have given a massive rise to the popularity of the sport within the country. It's been growing each world cup but if we actually hosted one it could do a lot to dispel the myths about football that exist within Australia and boost its popularity amongst the younger generations.
Sorry for the lack of relation to Liverpool,
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - The reasons why were simple - they wanted it moved to the January/Februry window. They have a potential legal claim and I would suspect a future application would be looked on sympathetically to avoid any grief. The claim, to be honest, could be fixed if FIFA hadn't sold certain rights to Fox so far in advance. A good question Reshi.}

07 Jul 2016 01:30:25
Ed002 wow thanks :) Hopefully Australia will get it soon then.