Liverpool Banter Archive April 25 2017

25 Apr 2017 22:56:00
Henderson now on crutches, he's 100% out for the season. Harsh reality but he can't be relied upon, he's now missed 43 matches in the last 2 seasons. That's close to 50% of our matches for the last two seasons. Midfield is an area we need to address as him and Lallana are often injured.

{Ed002's Note - Well the Liverpool way is to force them out with a hate campaign. I suggest starting with social media and then upping the ante with threats to their families. Maybe some sort of street attack and the good old abuse sprayed on the stadium. Rounded off by a Cessna 172 towing a banner over anfield.

Pathetic. As ever, zero support for anyone associated with the club.}

25 Apr 2017 23:19:48
Huh!

25 Apr 2017 23:23:45
Oh no, on crutches, feel so sorry for Hendo. he is our Captain and he is proud to be at Liverpool. Such a shame about his chronic injury problems. Henderson will be more frustrated then anyone that he's not getting game time.

Annoying, but it's not because his hearts not in it.

25 Apr 2017 23:35:47
Some reply that ed002.

25 Apr 2017 23:47:02
Ed002, I'm just stating facts. I've obviously wrongly assumed that you are aware that football is a ruthless game and that LFC are obviously thinking about the future without hendo if these injuries persist. I'm not attacking hendo, I'm a big fan of us but I'm a realist. You can't have a regular starter and captain constantly injured. It's plain and simple, you must be very innocent to not understand my point, although with your latest outburst I'm beginning to think underwise.

{Ed002's Note - It is not an "outburst", it is simply a comment on the ongoing inability of an entire fanbase to support the players at the club, to trash everyone associated with the club and demand constant change. Liverpool will continue to be screwed id=f folks constantly desire transition, change etc.. Klopp is a decent manager but far, far from the world class manager you all seem to think he is. The players are a good bunch than need a little work but not the heart ripped out once or twice a year. If the supporters don't get on board - it gets no better.}

26 Apr 2017 04:52:58
It is unfortunate, but Henderson has missed plenty of matches in the near past with injuries and I think it is important LFC do get another midfielder with Lucas and Stewart expected to leave this summer.

26 Apr 2017 06:32:18
I cringe so much at people.

Proper wool stuff the plane though.

Cringy stuff.

26 Apr 2017 06:44:32
Well that escalated quickly. Nearly as quick as my Klopp out banner and my ruthless social media keyboard.

26 Apr 2017 02:45:22
ed02 your right about the mentality of the modern day Liverpool fan but on serious not do you know much about the injury is it same one that has been plaguing hendo or is it another.

{Ed002's Note - All the club has said is that he has a bruised foot.}

26 Apr 2017 06:12:58
It's not the "entire" fan base.

26 Apr 2017 08:48:43
No it's not Ron.

26 Apr 2017 08:54:23
I sentiment Rons post, always a minority that tar the majority, found at all clubs ed.

26 Apr 2017 09:05:34
The eternal defense of the criminally unsupportive - 'I'm just a realist'.

By the way, 43 games is not nearly 50% of matches. From the start of last season to today, we've had 110 games. that's not even 40% of matches.

26 Apr 2017 09:16:05
It's not fair to tarnish the entire Liverpool fan base with the same brush ed002.

{Ed002's Note - You are right, there may be a fan out there who isn't fickle.}

26 Apr 2017 09:25:00
Agreed Ron, it's not the entire fan base but sadly it does seem to be the most vocal section of our fan base.
I said for a long time we need stability and steady progress not constant change every time we face a set back.

26 Apr 2017 10:51:51
What good is a player that can only 50% of games. It's like a business having an employee that can only come in half the year. The difference being the player still gets paid the employee doesn't if he is not there. I certainly won't condone abuse off players but a bit like Sturridge a wage packet could be freed up for someone that can actually get on the pitch most off the time just not occasionally.

26 Apr 2017 11:09:54
Ed002 not an attack on u by any means but why not leave the lfc editing to the other eds if we annoy you so much.

{Ed002's Note - The Liverpool fans don't annoy me Mick - they are indeed the most fickle they do constantly attack the players, managers, directors, owners etc.; they have paid for banners; they have daubed abuse on the stadium. I think you will find what I said is factually correct. If that pains you so much I can easily have you removed from the site.}

26 Apr 2017 11:27:13
Never seen Ed002 post anything positive about Liverpool, at least he is consistent. Maybe the ghost goal is still raw with him i don't know. Maybe the fact that Chelsea are doing well he has to channel his anger through the Liverpool pages. It's a mystery.

{Ed002's Note - I assume then you don't want anymore information on transfer interest then? I happily give my time for nothing to give information to cretins like you. Perhaps you should be thankful.}

26 Apr 2017 12:00:17
please get off Ed02s back - without him no one would read the site except for a few die hards (or insert another noun) . just check out the Man Utd pages if you want to see that kind of future.

26 Apr 2017 12:07:35
I don't know why we are even having a discussion about Hendo.
He's our captain, he gives 100% every game, he is an example to his contemporaries.
He's injured, whilst giving 100% on the field for the club and for the fans.

Let's stop the nonsense attacks on injured players.
All this stuff about getting paid etc etc. I'll tell you something for free, if you get injured through an accident/ incident at work that leaves you unable to work - you will get payment. Some of these football injuries can result in long term injuries/ impairments. We won't hear about them when they're retired though.
Thank goodness social media wasn't around when Jamie Redknapp got injured.

26 Apr 2017 12:19:36
If you had a bad cold, wouldn't you get better quicker with help and support or someone down your neck every given hour? A fit Hendo is a player we miss atm, remember his red card in 2014 with 3 games to play, so the sooner we can get him back fit the better for me!

26 Apr 2017 12:33:06
Well said Ron. Hendo always gives the club 100% so he always gets my support 100% when he needs it most. Yep let's kick a player when he is down. If only the club had a mott, something catchy like er I dunno how about "you'll never walk alone" that sounds good! Not "you'll never walk alone, unless you are injured or hit a bad run of form then we will kick you whilst you're down"

26 Apr 2017 14:35:33
Look its simple really, Hendo is one of best players, in deed our captain, he gives 100 per cent every game, and when he is out, we miss him big time,
if he is fit, he plays, if he is not fit, we put some one in, if we have to buy a similar player to cover him, so be it, but when fit, he has to play, there will be plenty of games next season .

26 Apr 2017 15:33:57
I never get the ungrateful attitude of some people on here, as a long term reader and occasional poster on the site (back to when Harry was called Harry! ) and when macca had his own page. The site was about debate, discussion and getting information that we had no right having. We learnt quickly that Ed002 treated idiots and the ignorant with the deserved contempt and people with genuine questions and debate with respect and participated with the suitable retort. So don't complain when you post abuse or act like we have a right to this information and get a response that you don't like in return. If you get asked to use the search engine then use it, if you get asked to check another site then check it. Any information we get is a bonus, try checking the other pages when the ed's stop posting anything of value. Everyone gets apologetic very quick.

26 Apr 2017 13:27:30
As I said ed002 it wasn't an attack on yourself it was just a question about why you persist with lfc fans I don't see how that even warrants removal from the site. I really appreciate your responses by the way and find them very informative cheers.

26 Apr 2017 20:51:32
I like ed002 she's like Morpheus but the difference is she has red pills in both hands. would you really really want it any other way? I'm sure other sites do have blue pills available though.

{Ed001's Note - I am just amazed at the cheek of danray35, who does nothing but slag off the team and players, yet has the gall to accuse someone else of saying nothing positive. Some comments are just too stupid to be anything but laughable.}

27 Apr 2017 09:26:56
*post deleted for repetitive whining*

{Ed001's Note - just go away and stop being a tit. You are banned and I will be deleting this profile, you are no longer welcome as you do nothing but abuse everyone from the team, the manager to Ed002 and have nothing of value to add. You are the kind of moron that ruins social media for everyone, because you are a complete hypocrite, constantly abusing others for doing what you yourself do far more of. Please do not come back.}

25 Apr 2017 19:39:58
Evening lads, just thought I'd throw my opinion in. I do make regular visits and try to be honest in what I post.

I still think your a certainty for top 4 this season. We still have City, Arsenal and Spurs away, and although we are an impressive 24 games unbeaten, we won't continue that imo. Obviously we also have the distraction of Europe which should now be our priority. You have 4 games left to prepare for, we have 8 if not 9 left. We also have a lot of injuries, the likes of Smalling, Jones, Rojo, Pogba, Ibra, Mata etc. You also have easier fixtures so I think it would be criminal if you didn't make top 4 from here. Having said that, I think although we're behind you in the league, we've overall had a better season, with winning the EFL and a chance of lifting the Europa. For Jose' first season I'm fairly happy. So many of the home games we dominated and ended up drawing cost us our league position this season. I think with another few top additions this summer we will have a really good go next year.

This season you've been able to consentrate and plan for PL matches usually with a week between games. Next war with European football you will find it harder imo, as will cheslea. I personally think we have a better squad than yourselves, and a manager who's tactically superior, and I'd be very surprised if we didn't finish above you next season.

This year tho, its you above us in 4th and 5th although I'd love to be proven wrong, I don't think I will be.

25 Apr 2017 20:09:16
Fair assessment mate! Hope we nip you to fourth but if you get it only have ourselves to blame.

Would love to wish you best of luck but would be a lie, but do like the non biased assessment and the cross site banter. Also would love to know, think Ibra's proven his quality this season and breathed fresh air into the league with his charisma. But think his injury might be a blessing in disguise as although young think rashford could be ready to take starting role next season.

25 Apr 2017 20:40:31
UTD will get into the CL by winning the Europa league. They have what 3 games and two Tier 1 teams to play against.

25 Apr 2017 20:50:25
United should always be above Liverpool and its criminal that they aren't imo. We purchace Klavan, United buy Bailey, we buy Gini (who has done pretty well) and United fork out £90 million on Pogba. They also fork out top wages for Ibra. For that i would be looking top 4. Imagine if Klopp could buy those type of players and didn't get top 4! All hell would break lose on this page.

25 Apr 2017 21:14:25
Stand United is a decent lad. You're always welcome round here even if you're one of the mob down the road.

25 Apr 2017 21:20:28
Irish rover post of the year so far.

25 Apr 2017 21:20:40
Stand, united will spend 3 or4 times what we will spend in the summer, maybe another 90 million player, that's what united have done going back to the time you signed rooney, ferdinand, more or less buying your wins, so for the lesser teams who do much better on a very limited budget, they can and do have a better season sometimes for me .

25 Apr 2017 21:26:48
Ibra has been immense and I think having him even for one season will have done the likes or Rashford and Martial the world of good. But to be honest I think we're a better side without him and think he hinders our game. We are far more dangerous with either Rashford or Martial down the middle, pace and movement. I think both Rashford and Martial are immense talents. Having said that I would like ibra fit for the bench.

I also don't dismiss the three other sides left in Europa league. Yes we are the best side left in, no doubt about that. But Southampton aren't a better side than Liverpool and won over two legs. Anything can happen in cup competitions.

25 Apr 2017 22:09:47
Good honest assessment there Stand, I had a beer with one of my United mates at the weekend and our conversation centred on many of your points . We had a similar season last season with good runs in the league cup and Europa although City and Seville were probably tougher opposition than Southampton or Ajax/ Lyon . I do think you'll make the final maybe Ryan Babel will think otherwise lol. Your point about us having easier games in the run in I'm not so sure those are the kind of fixtures we seem to struggle in . Our silver lining could be the fact Arsenal City and United have to play each other.

25 Apr 2017 22:55:31
Stand - sounds a lot like Benteke tbh. Good player, dangerous goalscorer but to get the best out of him you have to sacrifice the best of half the squad.

26 Apr 2017 14:26:58
Surely that shows us that by buying the 11 best (dearest) players for their resective positions doesn't necessarily make the best team unit.

Klopp has done well so far in transfers/ value for money. This along with integrating some of the u23s into the first team has been very sucessful.

An overhall of the back 4 starting with lovren is what we should concentrate our efforts this year.

And though I hate to say it that unless Daniel Sturridge miraculously finds some consistent form then he should be replaced as well.

26 Apr 2017 17:45:23
Great post, Stand and you give a very intelligent assessment of affairs as they Stand (lol) . CL is ours to lose and if we do lose it and you or Arsenal get it via the PL then you would have deserved it and we would have bottled it, royally. We'll see what happens.

25 Apr 2017 15:45:14
Not exactly Liverpool related but would apreciate your opinion Eds01/ 02, Gary Neville briefly discussed the possibility of some clubs moving their training grounds to London when discussing the shortage of northern clubs in the premier league as they might have a problem attracting players to move, if they move training facilities to London players and their family can live in London happily, but can then travel to their home stadium for their games like Anfield for example. Do you think this could work? I think its a very interesting strategy in terms of attracting players but I don't think it could work for a club like Liverpool.

{Ed002's Note - No, I don't see it happening. Clubs like Liverpool will continue to train in the grim, wet and cobbled streets of the Northwest of England where there is smog, dead & dying pit ponies laying on the street and only chips & fried curry to eat.}

25 Apr 2017 16:28:58
How would the promising youngsters manage, I mean we're moving the whole training process to one site now so that the kids are at the same venue as the 1st team aren't we. Clubs aren't NFL franchises, I do understand the principle of what he's saying, but it would be a sad, sad day if it ever happened. It certainly wouldn't be Liverpool fix any more, the players would have zero affinity with the city.
As a side note ed 2, we've recently had the flushing toilets installed up 'ere and I've even heard about some witchcraft called electricity coming our way.

25 Apr 2017 17:02:30
How difficult is it for a multi millionaire to travel from Liverpool to London?
It's an absolute load of nonsense that players only want to live in London. If London clubs all got relegated I'm sure the same players would instantly develop an attraction to dead/ dying pit pony cobbled streets.

Gary Neville is not an intelligent man, we should not be taking strategic advice from him.

25 Apr 2017 17:47:00
Ron

Your bang on nearly as good a reason as I won't champions league football.

CL football = bigger wages.

25 Apr 2017 17:43:03
We may eat chips and fried curry (don't no what the f##k that is like) have you ever been up North Ed out of curiosity.

{Ed002's Note - Yes, on many occasions I have crossed the Thames. I have been to High Wycombe, Henly, all sorts of places. You have to remember I was born in the Northwest as well.}

25 Apr 2017 18:59:10
👍👍 never new that Ed.

25 Apr 2017 19:53:49
North west USA ed? 😎.

{Ed002's Note - Yes Ron. Bellevue, WA.}

25 Apr 2017 20:42:17
If a player doesn't want to live local to the club then ultimately he doesn't want to be at the club and it shows their concerns are about outside things and not the football or the club. Why would you want to sign that player? Chances are they won't settle and won't perform until they're looking to get a deal elsewhere.

25 Apr 2017 20:47:08
really want some fried curry now, don't know what it is but I imagine it hits the spot after several pints too many.

{Ed025's Note - count me in mikey..

25 Apr 2017 22:20:13
Didnt Owen helicopter it to Newcastle daily? Wasn't exactly embraced by the fans. Then again, he was mainly injured and when on the field looked like he wanted to be injured.

25 Apr 2017 23:13:26
Ed.002 is forgetting tripe, black pudding - and of course a big bowl of scouse.

{Ed002's Note - I have never had any of them - I know black pudding is a blood based delicacy and I know that scouse is a stew made out of the previous days remains. Tripe is something I would need to look up but I have heard of it. I will try and work it in to future responses.}

26 Apr 2017 00:05:03
Was just an interesting topic lads not my opinion like I said I don't think it could work for a club like Liverpool. I am not slating the city in anyway just when he brought it up I though it could make good discussion for those as bored as I am at work with an hour to go till home.

26 Apr 2017 07:25:42
Can't beat a bit of pickled tripe - yummy 👌.

26 Apr 2017 13:20:03
Would be amusing seeing as most of the London club players don't even live in London - the vast majority live in Hertfordshire, Surrey and Kent. If they can travel from there to London clubs I'm sure Liverpool and Manchester based players can take their Bentleys and Ferraris 45 minutes from Wilmslow or Alderley Edge to training.

25 Apr 2017 11:43:49
So, I know this has nothing to do with Liverpool, ........

{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages please.}

25 Apr 2017 05:20:23
{Ed's Note - We have posted a new article entitled, Midweek Premier League Preview

25 Apr 2017 01:11:28
My thoughts are we will beat watford, southamton and middlesbrough (teams with nothing to olay for) and draw v west ham as we seem to struggle there.

Utd to lose 2 of arsenal, spurs and city and could drop points v southampton away and even big sams palace. So minimum of 7 points dropped which would see us clinch top 4.

Summer we need a top centre half (a real leader ) and ship out lovren and klaven. A new left back the one on loan at lille that ed001 has mentioned. Keita for midfield and lacazette for striker as he's been a scoring machine past 3 seasons.

Possibly a whinger too cos we can't seem to cope without mane or his quality. This should help us challenge on europe and domestic fronts next year and Klopp should have no excuses with that depth of squad and his summer buys which effectively makes the squad his own. YNWA so chin up guys and keep the faith.

{Ed033's Note - Definitely want a whinger to moan about no mane.

25 Apr 2017 09:04:07
Thinking the game is won before it has begun is what I think some of our players do which is why they get sloppy, make mistakes and concede goals - we need to take it a game at a time and leave everything on the pitch.

25 Apr 2017 09:57:44
Plenty of good "whingers" on here. Maybe klopp could sign one up!

25 Apr 2017 10:17:34
Seano I'm not sure I see our players have that much confidence that they would think the game is won before it starts. I think there are the same issues across the whole season because there are some core weaknesses. but although I may have missed the signs I don't think overconfidence is one of them.

25 Apr 2017 14:20:19
the way people are saying that United will drop so many points and getting beat twice and maybe two draws, that's not going to happen, let's face it, we will def have to win all four of our games, and I don't think that we will, I can see 3 wins and just maybe a draw, I think Southampton will be a tough game also West Ham, fingers crossed, let's just go for it, all out .