04 Dec 2023 07:34:20
How do you think Darwin played yesterday? Given the chances he had, I think it’s fair to say that he should have scored?
04 Dec 2023 08:15:38
Love him, creates absolute havoc and makes loads of chances for himself with his movement and workrate. The one he hit the bar yesterday he basically sprinted half the pitch so I do feel for him but his finishing is just not good enough. Fatigued or not when he gets the chances He will consistently cost us points until he becomes less erratic.
The flip side is would Gakpo get in the same positions to miss these chances and I don’t think he would so it is a real dilemma. Have to stick with Darwin imo but don’t think we will win the league with him until he becomes more consistent in front of goal.
04 Dec 2023 08:24:22
He contributed to many of the goals. He was decent. Overall, his game is improving massively. His press is so much better now. His inventiveness, passing, decision making are all making huge strides.
Obviously, his finishing choices and execution has not hit the spot yet. That can be a thing that clicks very quickly, but can also be a thing that never comes. Personally, I think it will for him with some more maturity. Just some patience. I personally think he is the future of our club and will be the main man when Salah retires/ moves on.
04 Dec 2023 09:59:21
Mo had an easier chance the Nunez.
I think we need to stop with this micro analysis of every hit and miss with Nunez.
every game he starts, him and Mo are developing better chemistry and they are creating for each other in every match. They are a real handful.
04 Dec 2023 10:40:30
WDW3, Darwin was brilliant overall, IMO. The chances? Sure he should have scored BUT cos Salah missed an absolute sitter at 3-2, a way easier chance than the two he had so he (Salah) should definitely have scored. And Salah should have squared to Diaz for a tap in instead, he lashes it straight at the GK.
Darwin's qualities simply make him unplayable when at full pelt and wwe saw raw evidence of that vs Fulham. And his linkup play was also very good and was defensively very good, all the things Klopp actually wants him to do. He hit the post on the stretch and the other one, I just think he slipped right before making contact. Just a bit unlucky, IMO.
Darwin, was involved in everything good that we did and he was a menance to them all game. Very good performance. The chances? We all know who missed sitters last night and it wasn't Darwin.
04 Dec 2023 10:44:40
I think Fatinworks, he has all the tools in his shot etc. to be a world class finisher.
We see it so often with high energy players that their minds also run 100 miles an hour. It can take these types of players longer for that cool mind in front of goal to come. But when it does, watch out. I love him.
04 Dec 2023 10:50:42
He reminds me of Suarez when he first came to Liverpool. Suarez's finishing wasn't the best at the start and he was a master at hitting the woodwork constantly, but it eventually came to him and i'm sure it will for Darwin.
04 Dec 2023 12:57:32
Nunez may be a brilliant all-round player (I’m a huge fan), but his finishing is unserious and needs to improve. Stop missing chances damn it. Regardless of the great work he puts in to fashion the chances, they need putting away.
04 Dec 2023 13:06:39
I don't think we have the luxury of waiting for him to hopefully get his act together. We can't carry a Timo Werner when we're competing against City. I think we should move him on while he still has some value.
04 Dec 2023 13:26:25
The man is way up there when it comes to emotion, work rate, commitment and determination. Judging from the way he celebrated yesterday's goals you can see how much he loves football and the club.
Someone just explain to him that purposely hitting the woodwork is a "wow" thing only in training, it doesn't count during real games. The objective is to hit the ball inside the woodwork. ?.
04 Dec 2023 14:48:22
Random Red, that's for Klopp to decide and as long as Darwin is doing and playing the way Klopp wants and developing nicely as he is doing, the luxury is there so if you are impatient then, I propose we all just accept it cos Klopp will decide all of that. I've accepted that playing w/ o a normal DM as Klopp has explained why before the City game. It is what it is.
That said, I agree that he needs to be finishing his chances even tho as someone said on here, the way he plays and at the speed he plays, it can be hard to get your head right as the two chances showed yesterday, IMO.
04 Dec 2023 15:13:00
Someone said earlier that yes Nunez misses chances, but would our other forwards even be in those positions to miss. He's certainly capable but last year we said hopefully he will come good, this year we are saying the same thing again. How long are we going to wait for him.
04 Dec 2023 15:27:43
Shame whenever Klopp picks Jota the same fans don’t just accept it.
04 Dec 2023 15:35:21
there is no doubt he needs to improve his finishing and i do hope he goes through what Suarez did - average to master in finishing
i would also not trade his passion, energy, workrate, movement, its precisely because of the way he plays that he and the team gets so many chances. mind you, if he didn't attack the ball, the final goal from TAA to win the game wouldn't have materialized
on his workrate, its not just in the attacking end, so many times he runs back to defend when we are being hit on the counter, he may not always win the tackle but he is always tracking back to close down spaces and passing lanes
on his mentality, any lesser striker would go into hiding after missing all these chances, but he keeps getting run, making those runs again and shooting without hesitation, that for me is a strong mentality
and on missing sitters, well, even the great Salah missed the exact same shot Nunez did against Luton, we just have to accept we don't have a Fowler in this team and he was indeed one rare breed.
04 Dec 2023 16:51:52
We re moving on Nunez now aswell. Ha ha. I would love to see some of these posters as DOFs. Not of Liverpool of course but with other clubs I very much do not care about. And just watch it all burn.
04 Dec 2023 18:51:18
Random Red, you are clearly an impatient person. I get it BUT Klopp will not sell Darwin to please you nor will he sign a "true" DM (cos clearly, Endo is a fake one) just to please others.
And if you are not ready nor lack the stomach to persevere with a clearly talented player with a brilliant work ethic, the passion and desire to be great with a great mentality who needs some grooming in just about one aspect of his game then, that's on you and nobody else.
Also, remember this: Darwin won't quit on himself nor will Klopp quit on him cos you quit on him. That's not how any of this will play out either.
04 Dec 2023 19:44:33
Granted he needs to cool down a bit in front of goal, but other than Salah's slide ball in behind, are we really creating for him? He creates an awful lot himself through sheer effort.
05 Dec 2023 20:36:25
@Oli, Darwin wasn’t “brilliant” yesterday. He was average to very good depending upon which part of his game you are talking about. The phrase people are keen to use is that he ‘creates havoc’ but in 13 PL games this season he has scored 4 goals and 4 assists. In contrast, Salah has scored 10: goals and 6 assists and is being criticised on this forum for letting his standards drop.
When Darwin starts showing stats like Mo over a period of 5 or 6 years then the term brilliant can be used.
The lad has been here for 18 months now and it’s time imho - as a central / left sided attacker that the creator of havoc became known as a scorer of goals.